The Vulcan and others was developed in only three years, in an era pre cad and computer aided, from design made by engineers using calculation rulers, compass and pencils ... amazing work !!!
seeing that the vulcan was designed in 47-49? only a few years after roy chadwick created the lancaster... one could only wonder if frank whittle had been taken seriously before the war what could have been!
Incredible - think what could have been if all this inventivness was backed up by government and not axed or wasted in infighting, cancellations etc etc. And look where we are now! I saw Vulcan XH558 at the weekend - still sends a tingle down my spine.
@@rattywoof5259 John Derry was the chief test pilot for De Havilland and was demonstrating the DH110 at the Farnborough Air Show in 1952. He broke the sound barrier in a dive, flattened out and pulled up nearly vertically. The plane then broke up and many parts plummeted into the crowd. 29 people in the crowd plus both pilots were killed. John Derry was a superstar of the time both from the War and during the Jet Age. The DH108 was the Swallow which was a prototype jet designed to break the sound barrier first for Britain. On 27th September 1946 the first prototype broke up during a steep dive killing Geoffrey de Havilland Jr the son of the owner of the company. As an aside, once the debris from the DH110 had been cleared and the casualties taken to hospital the Farnborough Authorities continued with the Airshow. Neville Duke took up a Hunter and blitzed the place. Different times!
My father was in the audience. He said as the 110 broke up and fell into the audience the audience went silent. The commentator merely said..."well, that's that" . Dad said you then heard the ambulance bells. Eerie.
I'm a Yank, ex B-52, RC-135 mechanic but my favourite aircraft are British, good ones, bad ones, it's in my blood I can't help it My house is full of 'em. This was a great era... so sad it's all gone. By the way... "y'all" can keep the Lightning... I preffer the Javelin... Cheers!
waynester71 A number of spectators were killed at Farnborough the year before when a DH110 broke up during flight and the remains fell into the crowd. I'm guessing that you weren't there to gather the body parts.
I'm fully aware of the John Derry aircrash..& you're quite correct, I wasn't there. That not with standing, H&S has robbed us of the spectacle somewhat..but that's the World we now live in, everything is risk factored.
I was at Farnborough Air Show with 3 friends when this plane was doing the sound barrier and we were at the bottom of the hill when al of a sudden the plane blew up and I said to my friends it is only a trick but soon found ourselves on tbe ground and one of the engines landed behind us killing and injhred some people. John Derry pilot was killed also another co pilot was killed too and I think he was Neville Duke, it happened in 1952, necer seen so many people injured. This was my worst nightmare and was terrified of planes for years.
1:22 Anyone know the aircraft? Wings of an EL Lightning, but one engine, and the T-Delta tail reminds me of the scaled research aircraft for the Concorde. Asked too early: Short SB.5 2:48 shows it in flight.
MrShobar and as did happen to the crew returning from a round the globe publicity flight when the plane crashed returning to England....the Pilot and copilot ejected and the rest burned in the wreckage........
@@arkhsm U.S. B-47 - 3 hot seats - Pilot and Copilot had upward seats, the Bomb/Nav/Ecm guy in the nose had a downward seat. B-52 - Early models - upward seats for Pilot, Copilot and ECM operator, downward seats for the Nav and Radar Nav on the lower deck, Up through the F models, the Gunner jettisoned the turret and left through the hole, on G & H models, he had an upward firing seat in the forward section. B-58 - initially 3 ejection seats for all 3 crew, later an encapsulated seat that allowed a good ejection at Mach 2/65,000'. Don't know about the Russians.
no the US were very keen to sell the F111 to the UK and AUS. Ironically it was british pride that scuppered the program. The brits so keen to show off their new plane showed the US everything they needed to know early on. The TSR2 though was a casualty of poor design requirements and supplier infighting. Lucas fought Smiths to get their gauges higher in the cockpit regardless if that was a good thing for the pilot. & the meetings with 50 - 60 people in attendance to squabble over petty details. In short, superb engineering, egotistical management and short sighted politicians.
Look up "Received Pronunciation" in Wikipedia. Far from being phony, it was the spoken accent of the English ruling classes in the 19th and first half of the 20th Centuries. It was used almost exclusively by radio and television announcers and as public address in airports. It is an accent that can still be found nowadays but is probably spoken by less than 1% of the English population.
damn he asked and you nailed the answer and him to the blackboard(in my mind yall are standing in an old school where chalkboards are and those weird heaters made of ribcages)
The Vulcan and others was developed in only three years, in an era pre cad and computer aided, from design made by engineers using calculation rulers, compass and pencils ... amazing work !!!
Haunebu We were never better as a people I believe.
Well... they actually used computers to do many of the calculations.
seeing that the vulcan was designed in 47-49? only a few years after roy chadwick created the lancaster... one could only wonder if frank whittle had been taken seriously before the war what could have been!
Its like watching The Thunderbirds, so many cool designs.
...A-Men!
Incredible - think what could have been if all this inventivness was backed up by government and not axed or wasted in infighting, cancellations etc etc.
And look where we are now!
I saw Vulcan XH558 at the weekend - still sends a tingle down my spine.
Amazing wish I was there now
A Vulcan visited March airfield California back in the late 80's and I got a look around inside.
Very impressive plane.
My first visit to Farnborough at the age of 14 - sheer magic!
So may sonic booms"
I was there several years running with my father, including this, and saw the DH110 (Sea Vixen) flown by John Derry break up in mid-air.
I can't imagine what it would have been like to witness that.
It was actually a DH108.
@@rattywoof5259 John Derry was the chief test pilot for De Havilland and was demonstrating the DH110 at the Farnborough Air Show in 1952. He broke the sound barrier in a dive, flattened out and pulled up nearly vertically. The plane then broke up and many parts plummeted into the crowd. 29 people in the crowd plus both pilots were killed. John Derry was a superstar of the time both from the War and during the Jet Age. The DH108 was the Swallow which was a prototype jet designed to break the sound barrier first for Britain. On 27th September 1946 the first prototype broke up during a steep dive killing Geoffrey de Havilland Jr the son of the owner of the company. As an aside, once the debris from the DH110 had been cleared and the casualties taken to hospital the Farnborough Authorities continued with the Airshow. Neville Duke took up a Hunter and blitzed the place. Different times!
My father was in the audience. He said as the 110 broke up and fell into the audience the audience went silent. The commentator merely said..."well, that's that" . Dad said you then heard the ambulance bells. Eerie.
God!....for a little island, we had some clever bastards!!
I'm a Yank, ex B-52, RC-135 mechanic but my favourite aircraft are British, good ones, bad ones, it's in my blood I can't help it My house is full of 'em. This was a great era... so sad it's all gone. By the way... "y'all" can keep the Lightning... I preffer the Javelin... Cheers!
Air shows were the business back then.. Screw Health & Safety!!
Breaking the sound barrier in front of the crowd, aerobatics at zero feet!!
waynester71 A number of spectators were killed at Farnborough the year before when a DH110 broke up during flight and the remains fell into the crowd. I'm guessing that you weren't there to gather the body parts.
I'm fully aware of the John Derry aircrash..& you're quite correct, I wasn't there. That not with standing, H&S has robbed us of the spectacle somewhat..but that's the World we now live in, everything is risk factored.
waynester71 I
@@MrShobar And the show continued on. The next day there was an even bigger crowd to watch the display
I was at Farnborough Air Show with 3 friends when this plane was doing the sound barrier and we were at the bottom of the hill when al of a sudden the plane blew up and I said to my friends it is only a trick but soon found ourselves on tbe ground and one of the engines landed behind us killing and injhred some people. John Derry pilot was killed also another co pilot was killed too and I think he was Neville Duke, it happened in 1952, necer seen so many people injured. This was my worst nightmare and was terrified of planes for years.
that delta wing at 8.40 wow
Things were a lot more blurry in 1953.
shame its so blurry
1:22 Anyone know the aircraft? Wings of an EL Lightning, but one engine, and the T-Delta tail reminds me of the scaled research aircraft for the Concorde.
Asked too early: Short SB.5 2:48 shows it in flight.
The Honker Hunker, Vicar's Valium, Glaster Jivelin, Afro Fulcrum --- 1:02 , long queue for the toilet
Javelin 🤟
Do you know where I can find footage of the Farnborough airshow 1954. Thanks
Yes!
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Now, you be nice Mr Neate......
cool video.never been to it but would love to go someday...but from a purely "show" aspect I prefer R.I.A.T.
i think John Rhodes Cobb had these things beat -- he was doing 367 mph in a car back in the 1930's
How many nuclear weapons could he carry to Moscow...?
Why build one plane for three tasks if you can build three planes also?
The Vulcan had ejection seats in the front only. The rest of the crew was condemned to death.
MrShobar and as did happen to the crew returning from a round the globe publicity flight when the plane crashed returning to England....the Pilot and copilot ejected and the rest burned in the wreckage........
+MrShobar dont ride in the back lol
MrShobar did any other bomber give ANY of the crew the chance to survive....just curious ?!
@@arkhsm U.S. B-47 - 3 hot seats - Pilot and Copilot had upward seats, the Bomb/Nav/Ecm guy in the nose had a downward seat. B-52 - Early models - upward seats for Pilot, Copilot and ECM operator, downward seats for the Nav and Radar Nav on the lower deck, Up through the F models, the Gunner jettisoned the turret and left through the hole, on G & H models, he had an upward firing seat in the forward section. B-58 - initially 3 ejection seats for all 3 crew, later an encapsulated seat that allowed a good ejection at Mach 2/65,000'.
Don't know about the Russians.
With the necessary financial backing there would have been no stopping Britain.
pix046 And without the USA interfering - there was no way they would allow the TSR2 into production.
blame the spineless politicians too - both Tory and Labour
You say that GB politicians are stupid? You dont live in Germany . . .
no the US were very keen to sell the F111 to the UK and AUS. Ironically it was british pride that scuppered the program. The brits so keen to show off their new plane showed the US everything they needed to know early on. The TSR2 though was a casualty of poor design requirements and supplier infighting. Lucas fought Smiths to get their gauges higher in the cockpit regardless if that was a good thing for the pilot. & the meetings with 50 - 60 people in attendance to squabble over petty details. In short, superb engineering, egotistical management and short sighted politicians.
Pix046: Only because the US had eliminated Germany as a competitor. But US money backed the winners in aviation instead.
typical overblown tripe. The Hunter and DH. 110 were never supersonic, except in a dive. They were TRANS-SONIC!!
Wanker jealousy gets you know where !!
Gloomy and Ugly, they had the face of war ..
This was when we ruled the world in design before we gave it all away to the yanks, weak Government's we had then !!
A lot of the shit in that hole appears to be yours Mr Nostalgia
What in hell is a 'Fawnbuddah' and where in hell did this narrator drum up that phony accent?
Look up "Received Pronunciation" in Wikipedia. Far from being phony, it was the spoken accent of the English ruling classes in the 19th and first half of the 20th Centuries. It was used almost exclusively by radio and television announcers and as public address in airports. It is an accent that can still be found nowadays but is probably spoken by less than 1% of the English population.
damn he asked and you nailed the answer and him to the blackboard(in my mind yall are standing in an old school where chalkboards are and those weird heaters made of ribcages)