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Joseph Babica yeah instead everyone wished kurt was around and axl was six feet under cuz he went to shit and is a complete douchbag, cant sing to save his life anyway haha
I'm going to have to disagree on this one. Not sure if you were around during this era, but GnR were the pinnacle of all that was wrong with music. November Rain was played so often on the radio, and MTV, and seemingly would never end until the glorious moment when Norvana's, 'Smells like Teen Spirit,' washed it away, like a cleansing 'rain' forever.
legunncat First of all, what the hell was wrong with music during the late 80's/early 90's? Second, November Rain is an amazing song. Third, sounds like your trying to imply that GnR were a hair metal pop band when they were known to be the exact opposite. "Appetite For Destruction" is the epitome of a true hard rock album, that is was solidified them as the rock band who broke away from the sound/attitude of "hair" bands
***** More legendary and successful than Nirvana? Your subjective feelings aside, that's just not factual. But you and Tom are right, they weren't really a hair band. Though they weren't far from being one.
Before this incident Axl was a fan of Nirvana, he liked Nevermind, he recognizing himself in Kurt in the making of of the " Don't cry "video, you can see Axl wearing a Nirvana cap, after that, he burn it on stage. A friend of axl said that it was really a dilemma for Axl, because he really liked the Nirvana music, but Kurt hates him.
Really? So you believe that Kurt Cobain is with YOU spiritually? - Fella? No offence, but Kurt Cobain didn’t wanna be with his own flesh-and-blood (his daughter) spiritually, so why on Earth you think that he’d wanna be with you, or anybody else, is just beyond me!
Actually before this accident, Axl Rose started to bad mouth Kurt and Courtney. He said that they are dirty junkies and that their baby is gonna be born sick or something and they should go to jail. And he started hating Nirvana not because of this accident but because Kurt Cobain didn't wanna tour with GnR and Metallica and he also denied Axl's invitation to play on his 30 th birthday party.
Kurt just thought he was better because his music "said something". Axl liked Nirvana at first but Kurt wanted nothing to do with them. Both ego driven.
u dont know how much i appreciated a mainstream rockstar like kurt not playing into the toxic culture of rock n roll but actively defending the rights of women, LGBT people and minorities.
i love both bands so much, so this is very sad for me to hear. It's especially very sad that Duff Mckagan was one of the last people to see Kurt alive.
I understand why Kurt didn't like Axl. Axl's profoundly immature, delusional, and narcissistic attitude inspired hate from quite a few other people. He was kind of the Kanye West of his time. I mean he caused a massive riot because he didn't like the security at one show. Still, I don't like how Kurt hated on GnR altogether because of him. Kurt was always very extreme about his opinions - very black-and-white with no middle ground. In a lot of ways, he was just as unreasonable and inside his own head as Axl, but whereas Axl's narcissism was more grandiose and over-the-top, Kurt's was more introverted and withdrawn. Honestly, they were two sides of the same coin in a lot of ways.
Funny how Kurt haters are complaining about him talking about Axl on stage, eventhough Axl did exactly the same. (Feel free to correct my language mistakes, I'm in a learning process)
She was even more helpless when her dad decided to whack himself instead of like stick around and be a father. Axl rules, Kurt sucks. So does his shitty music. His best song was a David Bowie cover.
Fuck Cobain what a PUSSY killing his self easy way out ...AXL and Duff worked through their problems that's why they still kill it today Nirvana nothing but a bunch of pussys
So 25 years on from this and we have Krist Noveselic working with Duff Mckagan, interviewing Duff Mckagan, playing on stage with Duff and dueting a happy and lighthearted version of 'Sweet Child', and we have them working in radio together, and essentially they have become great friends...And 25 years on we also we have Dave Grohl praising Slash and Duff for being great musicians, and we have Dave Grohl admitting how he found witnessing Slash and Duff, in person, write, play, and record together, in the studio, an incredible moment, and we have Dave Grohl playing on a Slash solo record...and essentially we have all of these simply iconic and legendary giants of rock n' roll bury any hatchet that they may have had, whether individually or as a band...yet there's still fans, from both bands, perpetuating this childish rivalry shit.... and I've been guilty of it myself in the past...but as soon as I saw Krist Noveselic and Duff Mckagan on stage together, just them two, smiling, laughing, and then cracking out a version of Sweet Child with Krist playing the accordion, well that was it, it was beautiful...The fact is, they've ALL let it go....and they know, and we ALL know, that BOTH Nirvana and Guns N' Roses were fucking excellent and supreme bands, bands that surpassed their peers, and made an important and exciting indelible mark on music, and Kurt Cobain and Axl Rose were BOTH immensely talented songwriters, and they were BOTH iconic singers and frontmen, and to deny that, and come out with some bollocks about either of them being shit is just absolute fucking nonsense.......I like to think that if Kurt had lived, then by now, by 2017, Kurt and Axl would be friends, and laughing about all this shit, and reminiscing about when they were BOTH giants of rock n' roll.
@@nerdy_.rockstar8254 lmao children? Axl doesn't have any children. Also there is no prof about those allegations. And do you know the same women later got arrested for attacking her boyfriend with knife? And sold their every private stuffs even marriage certificate for money? What a bitch of a women
Duff Mckagan was actually one of the last to see Kurt alive.. They spoke on the plane back to Seattle before Kurt offed himself. They really got along and Duff considered inviting him back to his house to hang out but by the time he went to find Kurt his vehicle left.
I really really like both bands. I want to defend both. This at the age of almost 40 sounds passive aggressive and shitty on nirvana crew part. Axl is a pos sometimes. What cues you in is ranking on mckagan. His background and personality, especially in the long run, does not warrant these comments.
Kurt has the last laugh honestly even people who don't even like rock n roll have heard the name Kurt Cobain you don't hear rappers saying guns n roses inspired them just saying
I was much older during this time in the 90s and guns weren’t necessarily accepted among the metal genre because of axl’s behavior and public relations. They fell more into the outcast punk movement as hair metal was on its way out during the time of their height but they were doing a good job keeping it alive in the early 90s for some of us. This was around the fall of metallica too. Alternative started taking a toll alongside soft rock and grunge, human right movements didn’t accept bands who wrote the old time lyrics I grew up with where male singers wrote very particular about women. But Axl took his lyrics a little bit too personal about his life and caused a lot of attention to them and their tours. It was a weird time to watch some of these bands tour together knowing well they didn’t get along. Regardless they’re all just human beings like the rest of us with opinions, if you took away their fame and fortunes.
Duff Mckagan was actually one of the last to see Kurt alive.. They spoke on the plane back to Seattle before Kurt offed himself. They really got along and Duff considered inviting him back to his house to hang out but by the time he went to find Kurt his vehicle left.
Well no DGC is a subsidiary of Geffen. It's not really the same label. DGC was like the one they would sign "alternative" acts to or stuff they didnt know how to market at first.. they wanted it to be separate from Geffen because they didn't want the new and possibly crappy bands to tarnish the big successful labels imagine
Kurt personally asked david geffen if he could buy him robert johnson or the other blues guy i cant remember his name , anyway he asked him to buy this guitar that was half a million dollars and geffen didnt buy it but kurt tried
@@micnik3573 how is he a narcissist? He’s never acted in a way that he thought he was better than everyone else, in fact he’s said a few times that he doesn’t think he’s that good
What a lot of people don't know is that Kurt was the one who started the feud between them and Guns N' Roses, not Axl like people think. In 1992, Axl asked Nirvana to open for them on tour, this was before they toured with Metallica, and Kurt said that he hated Guns N' Roses and their fans. I'm not trying to make Kurt look like the bad guy at all. I just thought I'd set the story straight since some people don't know it. But I love, and I have nothing but respect, for both bands.
+Geoff Stockton Axl was a hemriod - he broke up a great band - to prove his power over NOTHING!!!!!! Now he is just a pimple on the ass of humanity - it is UGLY and useless - but if you sit on the other cheek - you will not notice that hemroid!!!!!!!!!!!
Best Kurt Cobain clip i've heard lol. "That's the establishment rock n' roll, they want you to buy their packaged rebellion of sitting on a Harley Davidson while you play a piano with a 41 piece orchestra". Only 2 years later he would realize he had become part of the very establishment the grunge movement despised.
@@duncan3998 he's not the smartest, but he was smart enough to keep his mouth shut and enjoy his 7000 square feet 6 bedroom Manhattan apartment with free room service and meals all in Kurt's head.
@@anotherbigfootwithinternet2147 Kurt was proven right tho. One in a million is an embarrassing song where as what Nirvana and Kurt stood for was way ahead of its time
They had so much in common, they both wanted to be excellent, the perfection. They just had issues and a different way of life. They both struggled, did bad things (well, we are not in their head, we don't know the truth. Media are saying wathever they want). Love them both, I could never choose a side. None of them is innocent, it's like a childhood fight. They were both kids.
Axl Rose wrote a song with the n word in the lyrics and beat his wife, while Kurt Cobain was a proud feminist and anti racism that treated women with the respect they deserve.
@@mynameisjack0618 And you could argue Kurt left his baby daughter to be raised by a single mother because he chose drugs and himself over his own family. You could call him a wolf in sheep's clothing.
Axl was initially a Nirvana fan, even wearing a hat with the band's logo in the video for "Don't Cry," but the feeling apparently wasn't mutual. Promoting Nevermind in 1991, Kurt made every effort to draw a sharp line between what the two bands meant. "We're not your typical Guns N' Roses type of band that has absolutely nothing to say," Kurt told Seconds. The following year he told a Singapore publication, "Rebellion is standing up to people like Guns N' Roses."
just the fact that Kurt married Courtney says allot about Kurt. Not to mention the fact that he got a heroin junkie pregnant while he himself was a heroin junkie.
Zoeybatterup152 Still though I mean Axl was more talented than Kurt in his own way. Axl was more musically talented than Kurt in rock music and Kurt was more talented than Axl when it came to grunge.
Kurt was more talented artistically?... Really?... only being able to write songs within the 'grunge' limitations, and not being able to write a more eclectic catalogue of songs is regarded as being more talented artistically than somebody that wrote varied sounding songs like; Welcome to the Jungle and November Rain... Yesterdays and You Could Be Mine... Rocket Queen and Estranged... Kurt was an excellent song-writer, and I loved Nirvana, but his songs were so samey, they had the same structure and approach and journey right through to the end of the song... Axl Rose wrote a far more eclectic array of songs than Kurt, and we can all clearly hear that on both the UYI albums.. And Truer? Axl was a man of great honesty, and that was his trouble, he wouldn't lie or shift his stance on something for anyone, hence why he'd get arrested a lot and get fined... Watch the video "Duff Mckagan reconnecting with Axl Rose" video on YT... Duff says "That man cannot lie...Axl can't lie...he's real." ... And DEEPER? Read all the UYI lyrics. Axl was a very deep man... And KINDER?... Well, Kurt Cobain infuriated Dave and Kris because he tried taking them to court...Why? When Nirvana signed Kurt promised that ALL the song royalties would be equally split 3-ways even though he wrote the lyrics and melodies...but when 'Nevermind' exploded, and Kurt realised that he was effectively giving Dave and Kris millions, he tried to break the contract and demanded that he should receive more in royalties because he was the main songwriter....Doesn't sound very kind to me.
Nirvana and GNR are my 2 favorite bands so this is always interesting to me. Duff and Kurt were friendly with each other both being around the same age and growing up in Washington so its weird Duff tried to fight Kris
To Kurt, Punk meant musical freedom, to listen and play whatever you wanted, not really about going against the mainstream just because it's popular, that'd just be mindless. When Nirvana signed over to Geffen, The band had 100% artistic control. Musical freedom is what he lived up to.
I prefer Axl’s rant since he tells it how it is. Meanwhile Cobain was beating his wife up and shooting the needle while he had a kid. He’s no f’ing role model lmao.
I also noticed Kurt called EVERY BAND that got successful a poser when the whole point is to have your music HEARD. Not everyone wants to play in a shit bar all their life.
Let's see here. Nirvana -- the only ounce of actual musical talent was in the drummer, Dave Grohl. GnR -- Every single member of the band was immensely talented. A 1 year student of guitar can play any Nirvana song. A 3 year student of guitar can't play the majority of GnR songs. I'm sure this is gonna bring the hate from a bunch of whiney and emo crybabies, but Nirvana has got to be one the single most overrated bands ever. No one will ever look back on the "grunge" era as a high point in musical talent. Quite frankly that's when the real talent was sucked out of music since any asshole with a PoS fender and flannel shirt was given a record deal in spite of the fact that they can't play real music worth shit.
Yeah Jimbo...You talk about looking back at the grunge era with disdain. I guess you favor the music era that we have had since then...is that correct?
I hear what you're saying, but Nirvana wasn't all about skill, or showing off. They were about the art of making music and they were extremely innovative. I find a lot of other grunge bands very pale in comparison, because they were trying to show off, and imitate nirvana. But that wasn't why people loved nirvana. They were innovative, and it was a new sound. Guns and roses was a very different band, they were great, but not as innovative. Slash is a better rock guitarist than kurt was, but he couldn't come up with half the amazing shit and guitar lines that kurt did. I'm a fan of both bands but I prefer nirvana, and that's a preference. They both had some serious issues, but kurt seemed like a nicer guy than axl.
To be fair all those bands from the 80s and 90s with big hair and funny suits didn't age very well, meanwhile Nirvana it's just timeless, i almost feel Nirvana was the complete destruction of those styles
Steven Adler got kicked out due to drugs, idk why Izzy left, slash left because he had beef with Axl and had side projects, duff left because he staying with his homeboy slash
Kurt was so honest. "I was shaking" totally a man that wore his heart on his sleeve.
I'm sure he was sarcastically shaking when Axl threatened him. how can you take a man with a bodyguard who's threatening to beat you seriously...?
Axl was probably 120 pounds at the time ha I would have put my money on Courtney love if the three of them fought
Joseph Babica Disrespectful uncultured swine.
Joseph Babica yeah instead everyone wished kurt was around and axl was six feet under cuz he went to shit and is a complete douchbag, cant sing to save his life anyway haha
Joseph Babica dude you are like 10.
Kurt roasted before roasting was a thing.
HoboSoupGaming I think it's called insulting, and it's been a thing for a while.
You know roasting goes back like 50 years with Dean Martin,right?
ExactHoboSoup xD
i like emerson lake and palmer and nirvana... dont kill me plz
ExactHoboSoup 200th like
it started because Axls immense ego was bruised when Nirvana wouldnt play his birthday party.
Redacted Free Press and Kurt said that gnr were untalented posers
@Captain McSquat man your arguments are fucking terrible. Like Im on your side but fuck man you did more good for his side than for yours
War Torn Heart LMFAOOOOOOOOO idk why this makes me laugh
@@cherishaxl Relax...
cherishaxl Shut the the fuck up you low-life piece of shit
Axl hated Cobain because Nirvana ended the era of hair bands. It was the best thing I ever witnessed in music.
And yet Guns N Roses are still far more legendary and successful than Nirvana ever was. Plus, GnR were never considered a "hair band"
I'm going to have to disagree on this one. Not sure if you were around during this era, but GnR were the pinnacle of all that was wrong with music. November Rain was played so often on the radio, and MTV, and seemingly would never end until the glorious moment when Norvana's, 'Smells like Teen Spirit,' washed it away, like a cleansing 'rain' forever.
legunncat First of all, what the hell was wrong with music during the late 80's/early 90's? Second, November Rain is an amazing song. Third, sounds like your trying to imply that GnR were a hair metal pop band when they were known to be the exact opposite. "Appetite For Destruction" is the epitome of a true hard rock album, that is was solidified them as the rock band who broke away from the sound/attitude of "hair" bands
*****
How old were you in 1991?
*****
More legendary and successful than Nirvana? Your subjective feelings aside, that's just not factual. But you and Tom are right, they weren't really a hair band. Though they weren't far from being one.
Hi axl! Where is axl? Hi axl, Hi axl!
Veronica Daniela *multiple guitar crash noises and drum destruction noises* Hi Axl! Wait where’s Axl? Oh, hi Axl, HI AXL.
lol
Veronica Daniela oooooohhhh sheeeeit! HI AXL! HI AXL!!!.......1989 was over bro.
Where's ''asshole'' ? hahahaha
@@pedroalbuquerque1872 GOODDD ONEEE
At 2:06 there is a black guy in the crowd and he says, "Tell it like it is!" Then Krist say, "Say it brother." Funny stuff.
joshua fisher what makes you so sure he was black?
It's Carter from Rush Hour!!
xD xD xD
Lol. Your sarcasm.
he was definitely black mate.
So a black person can't quote that line?
Before this incident Axl was a fan of Nirvana, he liked Nevermind, he recognizing himself in Kurt in the making of of the " Don't cry "video, you can see Axl wearing a Nirvana cap, after that, he burn it on stage. A friend of axl said that it was really a dilemma for Axl, because he really liked the Nirvana music, but Kurt hates him.
+firsttry2 Axl wanted Nirvana to play before them at the second part of GNR's Use your illusion tour. Kurt refused!
he just wanted nirvana to go on tour with guns n roses and metallica and Kurt refused, he just wanted nirvana to come to sell more tickets
Abba235xx No, he refused because Axl was a racist, a homophobe and a misogynist, three things Kurt hated with a passion.
First Name Last Name and because Kurt states those things that makes it true. #wheresthelogicinthat
@@firstnamelastname4427Kurt wasn’t as innocent as you think.
I honestly would’ve loved to sit down with Kurt and just talk all night he seemed like an interesting guy...such a shame he died
His wife actually first screammed: HEY AXHOLE...AXHOLE...be my babys godfather....guess he forgot to mention it...
@@julesmpc1314 shut up dude, stop spamming that in every comment
@@briantcideu8619 it's true, can't handle the truth?
@@anotherbigfootwithinternet2147 Yeah yeah, truth, whatever, but no need to spam that in EVERY COMMENT.
@@anotherbigfootwithinternet2147 lol who fucking cares axl rose has been and will always be lame af just like all his lame ass fans
Every time I watch these type of videos they inspire me to jam. But this time was special R.I.P I know your still with us spiritually!
His wife actually first screammed: HEY AXHOLE...AXHOLE...be my babys godfather....guess he forgot to mention it...
Really?
So you believe that Kurt Cobain is with YOU spiritually?
- Fella? No offence, but Kurt Cobain didn’t wanna be with his own flesh-and-blood (his daughter) spiritually, so why on Earth you think that he’d wanna be with you, or anybody else, is just beyond me!
@@bluefluke9647 Same with the Moonwalkers.
@@bluefluke9647 or himself
I'm such a really good singer 🥰☹️😔 czcams.com/video/Lz5x6vFqFN0/video.html
Actually before this accident, Axl Rose started to bad mouth Kurt and Courtney. He said that they are dirty junkies and that their baby is gonna be born sick or something and they should go to jail. And he started hating Nirvana not because of this accident but because Kurt Cobain didn't wanna tour with GnR and Metallica and he also denied Axl's invitation to play on his 30 th birthday party.
The Lizard Queen don’t forget that Kurt also called all of Guns N’ Roses “posers”
Fucking preach, he didn’t wanna tour with them and axel got butt hurt
Axl was cool to them in the beginning but Kurt was a cunt and badmouthed them. Axl even wore a nirvana hat in one of his music videos
Kurt just thought he was better because his music "said something". Axl liked Nirvana at first but Kurt wanted nothing to do with them. Both ego driven.
Was he lying?
u dont know how much i appreciated a mainstream rockstar like kurt not playing into the toxic culture of rock n roll but actively defending the rights of women, LGBT people and minorities.
when? when you were 4?
Shut up dude
LGBT? What does that have to do with this?
@@havenlane992 Kurt openly supported gay rights.
@@rodrigosanchez9245 Gay rights in the 90's wasnt about LBGT.
i love both bands so much, so this is very sad for me to hear. It's especially very sad that Duff Mckagan was one of the last people to see Kurt alive.
He liked Duff. 😉 Even he said Axl was an asshole back then. That's why he and Slash left the band.
@@adnsharpnblack2986 true duff is the most likable in the band along with slash. Duff is also from Seattle.
Hey careful Axl, Courtney might put a hit on you and cover it up by saying it was a suicide. Just saying.
Damn gotem
CJ Evans- Watkins damn
CJ Evans- Watkins true facts
Gotta watch out for Asshole Rose.. I mean Axl Rose....
Probably, Axl Rose would beat the shit out of Courtney Love like he did in 1991.
I understand why Kurt didn't like Axl. Axl's profoundly immature, delusional, and narcissistic attitude inspired hate from quite a few other people. He was kind of the Kanye West of his time. I mean he caused a massive riot because he didn't like the security at one show. Still, I don't like how Kurt hated on GnR altogether because of him. Kurt was always very extreme about his opinions - very black-and-white with no middle ground. In a lot of ways, he was just as unreasonable and inside his own head as Axl, but whereas Axl's narcissism was more grandiose and over-the-top, Kurt's was more introverted and withdrawn. Honestly, they were two sides of the same coin in a lot of ways.
Kurt is a true water chart. As a piscean, he is very sensitive to ppl's energy (aka dickiness). Case it point: GnR
You're not wrong. They were both my favs, but they were screwed up deeply, truly, madly... Something something glass houses.
youre right
both were legends. two of the best bands ever
Andrea Chung what does that have to do with astrology it’s just a trait
turns out axl's advice about kurt's wife was right
Lol
Nope
Axl is finally right about something
Wow. I didn't knew Axl could foreshadowing something like that.
His wife actually first screammed: HEY AXHOLE...AXHOLE...be my babys godfather....guess he forgot to mention it...
2:06 lol that one guy "tell it like it is!"
Say it brother!
The world seemed a little more exciting when kurt was alive.
Aymen 😂
Funny how Kurt haters are complaining about him talking about Axl on stage, eventhough Axl did exactly the same. (Feel free to correct my language mistakes, I'm in a learning process)
Kurt started it! Axl wanted to be friends with Kurt but Kurt accused Axl of having cooties.
Your english is fine
And axle haters never talk about kurt when he onstage???.. its fuckin boring
Good English my man 👌😎
@@Alexander-gj9ms I think both were wrong at the end.
God kurt...he could tell a story, and I wish with my whole being he was here
Nirvana really were such great people. Enough said.
Shuvah Luvah so were Guns N’ Roses. Nuff said.
@@adamgriffith-smith9106 Except for the guy who "sings"
xlaythe only naive people like yourself would think that. He’s had tons of good moments too but it never gets shown
His wife actually first screammed: HEY AXHOLE...AXHOLE...be my babys godfather....guess he forgot to mention it...
❤️
this is incredible
and funny
THESNEAKERADDICT W
His wife actually first screammed: HEY AXHOLE...AXHOLE...be my babys godfather....guess he forgot to mention it...
@@julesmpc1314 So?
lmao " TELL IT LIKE IT IS!!! "
"SAY IT BROTHER!"
Hey Kool Thing
2:06 lol
i read this as he said it
2:53 I love how much Kurt respects women
I miss Kurt his voice, and everything😭
I swear he was such a dork😂🖤😭
A torturted soul
The most beautiful dork there ever was 💖
But such an adorable dork!
Axl was right about Courtney love.
His wife actually first screammed: HEY AXHOLE...AXHOLE...be my babys godfather....guess he forgot to mention it...
@@julesmpc1314 Man, you need to tell that to everyone?
@@julesmpc1314 and axls wife had miscarriage
@@julesmpc1314 I think you just Violated You Tubes community standards for stupidity
lol no
I love How Kurt describes his own daughter as "a helpless child" idk why but that made me laugh harder then it should
She was even more helpless when her dad decided to whack himself instead of like stick around and be a father. Axl rules, Kurt sucks. So does his shitty music. His best song was a David Bowie cover.
That tells Me Kurt was a terrible father
@@jacestephenweatherall1732 nah it just means that since she was little she was like actually helpless
@@jacestephenweatherall1732 She was like a month old or something 💀 is that not a helpless child?
I love Guns N' Roses but I like Nirvana too. You guys stop all the fighting. It's possible to like both of them.
You are absolutely right!
Fuck Cobain what a PUSSY killing his self easy way out ...AXL and Duff worked through their problems that's why they still kill it today Nirvana nothing but a bunch of pussys
"they still kill it"
Chris Walker I am one of them who like both
Nirvana is overrated trash their music is the same not even good
So 25 years on from this and we have Krist Noveselic working with Duff Mckagan, interviewing Duff Mckagan, playing on stage with Duff and dueting a happy and lighthearted version of 'Sweet Child', and we have them working in radio together, and essentially they have become great friends...And 25 years on we also we have Dave Grohl praising Slash and Duff for being great musicians, and we have Dave Grohl admitting how he found witnessing Slash and Duff, in person, write, play, and record together, in the studio, an incredible moment, and we have Dave Grohl playing on a Slash solo record...and essentially we have all of these simply iconic and legendary giants of rock n' roll bury any hatchet that they may have had, whether individually or as a band...yet there's still fans, from both bands, perpetuating this childish rivalry shit.... and I've been guilty of it myself in the past...but as soon as I saw Krist Noveselic and Duff Mckagan on stage together, just them two, smiling, laughing, and then cracking out a version of Sweet Child with Krist playing the accordion, well that was it, it was beautiful...The fact is, they've ALL let it go....and they know, and we ALL know, that BOTH Nirvana and Guns N' Roses were fucking excellent and supreme bands, bands that surpassed their peers, and made an important and exciting indelible mark on music, and Kurt Cobain and Axl Rose were BOTH immensely talented songwriters, and they were BOTH iconic singers and frontmen, and to deny that, and come out with some bollocks about either of them being shit is just absolute fucking nonsense.......I like to think that if Kurt had lived, then by now, by 2017, Kurt and Axl would be friends, and laughing about all this shit, and reminiscing about when they were BOTH giants of rock n' roll.
Ben Potter Oh god this is so true..
Amen
I doubt Kurt would be friends with axl because axl beats his wife and children. And Kurt was against that. But know what you mean.
@@nerdy_.rockstar8254 lmao children?
Axl doesn't have any children.
Also there is no prof about those allegations.
And do you know the same women later got arrested for attacking her boyfriend with knife?
And sold their every private stuffs even marriage certificate for money?
What a bitch of a women
👏👏👏👏
Duff Mckagan was actually one of the last to see Kurt alive.. They spoke on the plane back to Seattle before Kurt offed himself. They really got along and Duff considered inviting him back to his house to hang out but by the time he went to find Kurt his vehicle left.
man if only duff got to him to invite him, things couldve been alot better.
Is this in an interview duff did or his autobiography?
The butthurt gnr fans in the comments is too much kurt still trolling people and he's been dead 22 years😂
The uninformed Nirvana fans in the comments is too much kurt still making 10 year olds act like idiots and he's been dead 22 years 😂
I really really like both bands. I want to defend both. This at the age of almost 40 sounds passive aggressive and shitty on nirvana crew part. Axl is a pos sometimes. What cues you in is ranking on mckagan. His background and personality, especially in the long run, does not warrant these comments.
Daniel Beach its interesting that duff ended up siting next to kurt on his last flight home and had a good chat with him before he killed himself.
Arsenal Till I die Yah but hes the one who killed himself. Thats very weak minded. He was jealous and a whiner.
If only grunge fans would drop the holier than thou-attitude...
Kurt has the last laugh honestly even people who don't even like rock n roll have heard the name Kurt Cobain you don't hear rappers saying guns n roses inspired them just saying
SURLos Loccz Mic drop!
NWA?
exactly! Real legend shit
I would fucking hope GnR didn't inspire any rap shit... I can see Nirvana doing it.. shity music will stick together...
SURLos Loccz true! So many rappers IN THEIR SONG sometimes rhyme things with Kurt Cobain
The best bit was when his Girlfriend Stephanie Seymour asked if Courtney was a model and she replied "no, are you a brain surgeon".
Axl wasn’t wrong about Courtney
Courtney is cool asf. U idiots have been blaming her for the death of Kurt for 27 years.
Give the lady a break 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
@@blackflag5148 Yer funny
@@dansheffield4021 So is ur mom TRUST ME. She has great jokes 👍🥃👍
She was kind of an embarrassment
@@apocalypsepow No she wasn't lol
Gotta love the comments section
ikr
He'll yeah
"TELL IT LIKE IT IS!"
I was much older during this time in the 90s and guns weren’t necessarily accepted among the metal genre because of axl’s behavior and public relations. They fell more into the outcast punk movement as hair metal was on its way out during the time of their height but they were doing a good job keeping it alive in the early 90s for some of us. This was around the fall of metallica too. Alternative started taking a toll alongside soft rock and grunge, human right movements didn’t accept bands who wrote the old time lyrics I grew up with where male singers wrote very particular about women. But Axl took his lyrics a little bit too personal about his life and caused a lot of attention to them and their tours. It was a weird time to watch some of these bands tour together knowing well they didn’t get along. Regardless they’re all just human beings like the rest of us with opinions, if you took away their fame and fortunes.
kurt = legend
Axl=god
UnknownDarkDragon Kurt’s not ruck,it’s grunge/punk.
@UnknownDarkDragon Hair metal is worse by default.
UnknownDarkDragon you hear more people talk about Kurt than Axl so....
@@squidward9747 Guns N Roses i think is more popular than Nirvana though
Both Axl and Kurt are awesome guys. Duff later became friends with Kurt.
And Krist
in what way is Axl an awesome guy wtf
@@elsborg3476 u sure are still living in the past
@@zde1532 what do you mean by that lmao axl is still to this day the biggest asshole on earth
Duff Mckagan was actually one of the last to see Kurt alive.. They spoke on the plane back to Seattle before Kurt offed himself. They really got along and Duff considered inviting him back to his house to hang out but by the time he went to find Kurt his vehicle left.
Many people forget that Kurt played guitar left handed and also played a right handed guitar up side down. So that is spells talent.
Axl has an insane vocal range.
It spells dyslexia
funny how they are both signed to geffen records
Serial Killa he’s just stating that it’s ironic that they were both signed the same record label lmao
Well no DGC is a subsidiary of Geffen. It's not really the same label. DGC was like the one they would sign "alternative" acts to or stuff they didnt know how to market at first.. they wanted it to be separate from Geffen because they didn't want the new and possibly crappy bands to tarnish the big successful labels imagine
Yeah DGC is not Geffen even though it's the same shit
Kurt personally asked david geffen if he could buy him robert johnson or the other blues guy i cant remember his name , anyway he asked him to buy this guitar that was half a million dollars and geffen didnt buy it but kurt tried
love Axl,he was just broken inside
He actually apparently has Bipolar Disorder
He was a psycho crazy narcissist
@@micnik3573 how is he a narcissist? He’s never acted in a way that he thought he was better than everyone else, in fact he’s said a few times that he doesn’t think he’s that good
@@micnik3573 what?😂
@@micnik3573 Sure you're not mixing him with Kanye?
Not many ppl would speak out publicly against axl back then, even now. Kurt was no kid, dude always had a ak in tow.
What a lot of people don't know is that Kurt was the one who started the feud between them and Guns N' Roses, not Axl like people think. In 1992, Axl asked Nirvana to open for them on tour, this was before they toured with Metallica, and Kurt said that he hated Guns N' Roses and their fans. I'm not trying to make Kurt look like the bad guy at all. I just thought I'd set the story straight since some people don't know it. But I love, and I have nothing but respect, for both bands.
"I was shaken and i told my wife to SHUT UP BITCH" xD.... Kurt actually had great comedic timing...
Axl was a cancer. Now he's more of a foot fungus. Not as damaging but still a serious pain in the ass.
+Geoff Stockton Axl was a hemriod - he broke up a great band - to prove his power over NOTHING!!!!!! Now he is just a pimple on the ass of humanity - it is UGLY and useless - but if you sit on the other cheek - you will not notice that hemroid!!!!!!!!!!!
Jeff Schwartz
He was a raging tool. No doubt. He doesn't seem to be so much these days.
cliff lynch
His wife killed him. He was a cunt but not a suicidal one.
Geoff Stockton he did it himself, that whore wasnt sober enough to kill him
cliff lynch
The evidence is overwhelming for murder conspiracy.
Best Kurt Cobain clip i've heard lol. "That's the establishment rock n' roll, they want you to buy their packaged rebellion of sitting on a Harley Davidson while you play a piano with a 41 piece orchestra". Only 2 years later he would realize he had become part of the very establishment the grunge movement despised.
think it was krist who said that
2:06 "Tell it like it is !" lmao
Why hasn’t the video footage from this ever been released? It’s been verified that Axl had a video camera with him. I have to see the film!!!
Lmaoo I have to see that
Axl didn't wanna look like an asshole on his documentary of course they never released it lmao
Kurt's wife was kind of an embarrassment though
For real,
Did you all know her personally?
Kurt was dominated under the skirt of that bitch, you know....
embarrassment ? More like a calamity in his life.
@@tshinn You don't have to know her personally to see what a POS she is. Pull up a few videos of her then get back to us.
Kurt dissing the shit outta Axl, is ten times better than diss songs in hip-hop today .. 😂💀 Real Shit 💯
Has Axl retorted back?
Wtf
@@duncan3998 he's not the smartest, but he was smart enough to keep his mouth shut and enjoy his 7000 square feet 6 bedroom Manhattan apartment with free room service and meals all in Kurt's head.
@@anotherbigfootwithinternet2147 Kurt was proven right tho. One in a million is an embarrassing song where as what Nirvana and Kurt stood for was way ahead of its time
I love Kurt
"If you want to stop being a rockstar, just stop being one"-Joe Strummer on Kurts death.
Axl and Kurt two musician outstanding, Kurt Cobain had the sensibility and drama of his personality that made him a legend and icon of his time.
2:07 is the best. True comedy gold.
Ironic about them having issues with Duff, he came so close to saving Kurt or at least putting it off anyway.
They had so much in common, they both wanted to be excellent, the perfection. They just had issues and a different way of life. They both struggled, did bad things (well, we are not in their head, we don't know the truth. Media are saying wathever they want). Love them both, I could never choose a side. None of them is innocent, it's like a childhood fight. They were both kids.
Axl Rose wrote a song with the n word in the lyrics and beat his wife, while Kurt Cobain was a proud feminist and anti racism that treated women with the respect they deserve.
@@mynameisjack0618 🙄
@@mynameisjack0618 he was also a junkie who married an insane woman who killed him
@@mynameisjack0618 And you could argue Kurt left his baby daughter to be raised by a single mother because he chose drugs and himself over his own family. You could call him a wolf in sheep's clothing.
The thing is it was only kurt vs axl and krist vs duff
Dave and slash were calm
They wanted to stay out of it
I thought Duff was fine, Kurt saw Duff In the day before Kurt's Death and he was fine
i heard slash said that he didn’t have time for that shit
You can't hate slash however hard you try but you cant hate any nirvana member because it is literally illegal haha
Fun to hear behind the scene stories of two iconic songwriters. I think we can just leave it at that.
I like both bands
I always come back and listen to this
Axl was initially a Nirvana fan, even wearing a hat with the band's logo in the video for "Don't Cry," but the feeling apparently wasn't mutual. Promoting Nevermind in 1991, Kurt made every effort to draw a sharp line between what the two bands meant. "We're not your typical Guns N' Roses type of band that has absolutely nothing to say," Kurt told Seconds. The following year he told a Singapore publication, "Rebellion is standing up to people like Guns N' Roses."
Ngl, I think Kurt was actually shitting himself when Axl stopped with his bodyguards and threatened to beat him up, considering how introverted he was
Kurt was really talented, I love Axl's music and I also love Kurt's!
you must love supporting an alcoholic that enjoys beating women
Me too
Axl Rose... more like Axl ROASTED
Brandon T. That was terrible
Did a 3rd grader write your comment?
for real?
Lol I wrote this comment when I was in like 6th grade go easy on me
@@brandont.6510 Better edit it before you get roasted yourself. haha not by me ofc
This is the first actual fight between music fans I've seen
I'm kind of fascinated
We have been fighting since 1992
2:06 "TELL IS LIK IT IZ!"
just the fact that Kurt married Courtney says allot about Kurt. Not to mention the fact that he got a heroin junkie pregnant while he himself was a heroin junkie.
Love you for this comment. He was annoying and here too. I love Axl.
Sold the world on that one. Thanks...Loved you Kurt!
Kurt was more talented artistically and a truer, deeper, kinder dude!
Are you kidding me, Axl was a genius too.
+Ryan LeRoux They said more talented than Him they didn't say Kurt was and he wasn't.
Zoeybatterup152 Still though I mean Axl was more talented than Kurt in his own way. Axl was more musically talented than Kurt in rock music and Kurt was more talented than Axl when it came to grunge.
+Crush40thebest range doesn't matter if you don't use it right.
Kurt was more talented artistically?... Really?... only being able to write songs within the 'grunge' limitations, and not being able to write a more eclectic catalogue of songs is regarded as being more talented artistically than somebody that wrote varied sounding songs like; Welcome to the Jungle and November Rain... Yesterdays and You Could Be Mine... Rocket Queen and Estranged... Kurt was an excellent song-writer, and I loved Nirvana, but his songs were so samey, they had the same structure and approach and journey right through to the end of the song... Axl Rose wrote a far more eclectic array of songs than Kurt, and we can all clearly hear that on both the UYI albums.. And Truer? Axl was a man of great honesty, and that was his trouble, he wouldn't lie or shift his stance on something for anyone, hence why he'd get arrested a lot and get fined... Watch the video "Duff Mckagan reconnecting with Axl Rose" video on YT... Duff says "That man cannot lie...Axl can't lie...he's real." ... And DEEPER? Read all the UYI lyrics. Axl was a very deep man... And KINDER?... Well, Kurt Cobain infuriated Dave and Kris because he tried taking them to court...Why? When Nirvana signed Kurt promised that ALL the song royalties would be equally split 3-ways even though he wrote the lyrics and melodies...but when 'Nevermind' exploded, and Kurt realised that he was effectively giving Dave and Kris millions, he tried to break the contract and demanded that he should receive more in royalties because he was the main songwriter....Doesn't sound very kind to me.
his voice sounds so cute. rest in peace kurt.
I like how he doesn't attack GnR but only attacks Axl.
I love both Kurt & Axl. ❤
Nirvana and GNR are my 2 favorite bands so this is always interesting to me. Duff and Kurt were friendly with each other both being around the same age and growing up in Washington so its weird Duff tried to fight Kris
1:03 "I WENT WAHT?"
id love to see kurt and axl slug it out on an episode of celebrity death match
"You better keep tour wife shut!" No offense kurt, but that was an appropriately sick burn.
this is Rock beef
Cock vs Grunge 👍👌
To Kurt, Punk meant musical freedom, to listen and play whatever you wanted, not really about going against the mainstream just because it's popular, that'd just be mindless. When Nirvana signed over to Geffen, The band had 100% artistic control. Musical freedom is what he lived up to.
I wish these two got along, they had so much in common.
Bad childhood
Talent
and much more
Hey looks like I can join in then
@@xlaythe yikes
plz dont ever say that again
These pictures take me back 😢
I prefer Axl’s rant since he tells it how it is. Meanwhile Cobain was beating his wife up and shooting the needle while he had a kid. He’s no f’ing role model lmao.
I love this. Kurt was amazing and a total badass. R.I.P!
One of the greatest beefs of all time lol
I also noticed Kurt called EVERY BAND that got successful a poser when the whole point is to have your music HEARD. Not everyone wants to play in a shit bar all their life.
And Kurt signed with a major label himself and was all over MTV and radio. He was a hypocrite, a poser.
PEOPLE, GnR and Nirvana were very similar, they both actually hated the hair band scene and had other things in common. Just enjoy them both..
They were even in same label.
They weren't even remotely similar in terms of what they stood for
basically I love Kurt everyone should even if he hated me I think I'd still love him such a beautiful man
Let's see here. Nirvana -- the only ounce of actual musical talent was in the drummer, Dave Grohl. GnR -- Every single member of the band was immensely talented. A 1 year student of guitar can play any Nirvana song. A 3 year student of guitar can't play the majority of GnR songs. I'm sure this is gonna bring the hate from a bunch of whiney and emo crybabies, but Nirvana has got to be one the single most overrated bands ever. No one will ever look back on the "grunge" era as a high point in musical talent. Quite frankly that's when the real talent was sucked out of music since any asshole with a PoS fender and flannel shirt was given a record deal in spite of the fact that they can't play real music worth shit.
what James said ^
By the way, majority of the 80s sucked. Big hair and male crossdressers with clique guitar playing, fuck that
Yeah Jimbo...You talk about looking back at the grunge era with disdain. I guess you favor the music era that we have had since then...is that correct?
I hear what you're saying, but Nirvana wasn't all about skill, or showing off. They were about the art of making music and they were extremely innovative. I find a lot of other grunge bands very pale in comparison, because they were trying to show off, and imitate nirvana. But that wasn't why people loved nirvana. They were innovative, and it was a new sound. Guns and roses was a very different band, they were great, but not as innovative. Slash is a better rock guitarist than kurt was, but he couldn't come up with half the amazing shit and guitar lines that kurt did. I'm a fan of both bands but I prefer nirvana, and that's a preference. They both had some serious issues, but kurt seemed like a nicer guy than axl.
Jos Budon you don't get it jimbo.....you just don't get it.
"tell it like it is"
To be fair all those bands from the 80s and 90s with big hair and funny suits didn't age very well, meanwhile Nirvana it's just timeless, i almost feel Nirvana was the complete destruction of those styles
2:06 "Tell it like it is!"
Axls advice aged like fine wine 🤭
maybe kurt would be alive had he hired a bodyguard who would protect kurt from himelf
+Diego Ambrosio more like Courtney
Yeah those damn him-elf's!! They have such a napolean complexion.. you what they say about small elf hands..
lol
Kurt❤️Nirvana
I love them so much forever. Such good people.
Kurt's a rock legend. Okay? Nothing can fucking change that. He WAS successful so there's really nothing anybody can say about him. r.i.p Kurt
Guns N Roses broke up because nobody in that band liked Axl
OldScratchJohnson no sir, not true. You weren’t there so you don’t know
Steven Adler got kicked out due to drugs, idk why Izzy left, slash left because he had beef with Axl and had side projects, duff left because he staying with his homeboy slash
@@danielolsen9034 Izzy left because he couldn’t deal with fame
@@SkyxDreamboat and also cause he got sober while Slash and Duff were still using and he didn’t want to be around drugs in case he relapsed
@@adamgriffith-smith9106 yeah that too.
Kurt was amazing🤙
Team Axl here !
god kurt was such a legend
Both bands made great music imo.
he seems so happy 😭😭😭
he still alive I hearing his voice and song, what can I say huh.....he still on my mind.