13 (Every) Primes Of Transformers Origin - The 1st Cybertronians Created To Fight Ultra Evil Unicron

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  • @Wyvernatus
    @Wyvernatus Před 6 měsíci +22

    I should clarify on the behalf of the creator that in the aligned continuity, Sentinel is not one of the Thirteen, rather, he is an impersonator of the title.
    This is one of the few good ideas the aligned continuity had in regards to the primes.

  • @varuhash50
    @varuhash50 Před rokem +292

    I like to think that the 13th is the Matrix of Leadership itself, since it basically reincarnates the Bot possessing it into that of a Prime. It makes sense, considering the Matrix often has a way of "choosing" the next Prime like its sentient instead of simply being given it

    • @user-td3du7jk2x
      @user-td3du7jk2x Před rokem +19

      How about a program extension pack? It gives abilities to a regular Autobot the ability to be a Prime. Optimus was Orion Pax until Alpha Trion rebuilt him and the Matrix reprogrammed him to be a Leader.

    • @Megamanlanprime
      @Megamanlanprime Před rokem +14

      I usually prefer that the Matrix is a part of Primus’ spark hence why it chooses the bearer

    • @Osman_Khan_003
      @Osman_Khan_003 Před rokem +6

      ​@@user-td3du7jk2xhey can u explain what does it mean alpha trion rebuilt Orion pax into optimus?.. bcz I am confused that optimum prime was there in the group of 13 primes at the time of Primus vs unicron and Orion pax was a different bot came after so many years of those 13 primes, so how alpha trion rebuilt Orion pax into optimus.. he was made a prime of his own I guess by getting the Matrix

    • @user-td3du7jk2x
      @user-td3du7jk2x Před rokem +5

      @@Osman_Khan_003 The way I think I understand it that Alpha Trion gave Optimus the Matrix he himself had. And as for there being another Optimus Prime, I can only guess that his name was passed down. Like with Beast Wars, (As it has been explained to me by TJ Omega, he knows a lot more that I do.) that The Beast Wars Transformers are Predecessors to the G1 one Transformers.

    • @Osman_Khan_003
      @Osman_Khan_003 Před rokem +4

      @@user-td3du7jk2x hmm ... If the name of optimus was passed down, maybe it's correct but what u said that beast wars transformers are predecessor to G1 transformers.. I have not seen any TF series except Aligned continuity (Prime series) by Hasbro but know one thing that G1 came first then Beast wars Series so how beast wars TF are the predecessors ??

  • @huntercrew3103
    @huntercrew3103 Před rokem +636

    So if I'm understanding this correctly all the transformers series share canonical history despite taking place in different universes

    • @benjaminandrew9057
      @benjaminandrew9057 Před rokem +46

      Mostly yes.

    • @lordnul1708
      @lordnul1708 Před rokem +77

      More or less. The main difference tends to be the actual vehicle forms and what "organics" they interact with.
      Hence why Bumblebee is a VW Beetle in Gen 1 but a Camaro (originally a beat up one, but upgrades to a better "year" and "condition") in the movie, and why Megatron is a tank in one continuity and a jet like Starscream in another and a dragon in Robots in Disguise.
      And why the trailer was Optimus's legs originally, and in Robots in Disguise he's a firetruck, Beast Wars he's Optimus Primal the gorilla, Armada he's a semi again but the trailer is an optional upgrade and in the Michael Bay verse he's just the main Semi and has flame decals.
      Edit: fixed typo

    • @ronbird121
      @ronbird121 Před rokem +16

      thats why all full history videos are nonsense

    • @redragon1990
      @redragon1990 Před rokem +13

      Because unicron exists simultaneously in all

    • @akatsukigajou1639
      @akatsukigajou1639 Před rokem +1

      @@ronbird121 nah wrong not nonsense

  • @jahrusalem3658
    @jahrusalem3658 Před rokem +40

    The original 13 give me the same vibes as the Primarchs from Warhammer 40k. Which I guess would make Megatronus the Horus of this comparison?

  • @haratoo636
    @haratoo636 Před rokem +37

    Finally! Love love love videos like this! Great work as always!!

  • @ryanmarr5243
    @ryanmarr5243 Před rokem +52

    Would definatly like to see something a little more in-depth on megatronus, he's a real good character with a much greater scope than "generic bad guy."

    • @MtCatcher
      @MtCatcher Před 7 měsíci +1

      Hi dude how are you today

  • @arty_nattie
    @arty_nattie Před rokem +105

    Maybe you should have talked a little more about the megatronus of the covenant. He's more complex than just a flat evil charcter shown in high-capitalized media. Megatronus has a temper, but he wasn't bad, that temper of his, was just shown to hide his real vulnerabilities and disguise his real emotions, and the reason he was that way, that distant, reserved and insecure was because the other primes did not completely accept him as he was: another creation of Primus, one that was needed for them to have a chance of achieving victory against unicron. They never allowed him to be like one of them, starting by prima that just blasted him with reject and criticism and no respect for him. His relationship with solus did let the people who read the book to see that he had a soft antentive and kind side towards someone that accepted him as he was able to show that he was not a bad person. He was a person with a lot of demons, that doesn't make a person a demon itself. It's sad to see that things always end bad for this character just for not being understod, he's a character with "more than meets the eye", and this also makes the other primes seem shallow in their personalities and ways to see other people, specially prima, that was basically left alone judging people and being intolerant and unflexible, which is basicaally how he died, or how we suspect he died.

    • @rays5163
      @rays5163 Před rokem +4

      Ok...but then that would be a different video. You're watching a video about the different primes.

    • @arty_nattie
      @arty_nattie Před rokem +18

      @@rays5163 Megatronus IS a prime as Prima is, but I made this comment because there's a whole misconception about this character, basically thanks to the movies of michael bay, which only shows him as a bad character and that's it, but if he talked in the video about the Prima shown in the covenant of primus, why not about megatronus also?

    • @dipanjanghosal1662
      @dipanjanghosal1662 Před rokem +4

      @@arty_nattie why was he specifically disrespected by his fellow brothers? He must have been doing something...

    • @tc-channelhobby4051
      @tc-channelhobby4051 Před 11 měsíci +2

      ​​@@arty_nattiehe Michael bay one is before all the prima thing and Solus problems. They came out after Michael bays. And before that, the fallen was like the second evil behind Unicron and is a multiversal singularity but because of this new lore change, it is no longer the case.

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@tc-channelhobby4051 hi dude how are you

  • @isaactelesco2141
    @isaactelesco2141 Před rokem +14

    Does Noone else remember when it was revealed that cybertron was secretly unicorn and he had deceived the Cybertronians to leave earth(primus) during their attempts of expansion. And twisted the truth. Causing the cybertronian war by encouraging the split of the autobots and Decepticons?

  • @MuttonfudgeRacing
    @MuttonfudgeRacing Před rokem +5

    Your voice is perfect for these videos.

  • @tarn4633
    @tarn4633 Před rokem +24

    I believe you should cover origins of all Primes separately as per their different corresponding continuities that is Aligned Continuity, Cyberverse ,IDW covered separately.

  • @Fire0warrior182
    @Fire0warrior182 Před rokem +4

    Thats a whole Lotta primes 😂😂

  • @spandansahs8816
    @spandansahs8816 Před rokem +15

    Theoretically nexus prime could have taught cybertronians the art of combing into combiners

  • @SagePitre
    @SagePitre Před rokem +37

    Maximo Prime was basically Loki, you can tell from design and based on his description.

  • @gamernargo1889
    @gamernargo1889 Před rokem +2

    This is a new thing for me and I did not know anything about this until now

  • @ryry4298
    @ryry4298 Před 11 měsíci +4

    All of this sorce material and yet we had to sit through all the overpowered human stories in the movies

  • @amuntakhar6081
    @amuntakhar6081 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Spectacular video

  • @neetuverma1726
    @neetuverma1726 Před 3 měsíci +3

    Optimus Prime is the G.O.A.T no 🧢

  • @d.mccants8727
    @d.mccants8727 Před 12 hodinami

    this guy is all over the place with his visuals lol

  • @FStheforevermachine
    @FStheforevermachine Před rokem +1

    Good narrative voice

  • @mcfad7916
    @mcfad7916 Před rokem +11

    I would like to see them make movies that starts from the beginning for cybertron and the transformers. Not just the planet being dead and lack of enegry so the transformers had to leave

  • @rodan9773
    @rodan9773 Před rokem +8

    Take a shot 🥃 every time he says Prime lol.

  • @jamesbrown1777
    @jamesbrown1777 Před rokem +7

    Transform and Roll Out

  • @harryugsod
    @harryugsod Před 11 měsíci +4

    Optimus prime is the youngest prime of the universe

  • @treyprice4870
    @treyprice4870 Před rokem +1

    Where can I get the picture of the thumbnail?the bot looks so cool

  • @tommygeorgejr2931
    @tommygeorgejr2931 Před rokem +2

    Good 1

  • @alchemistprimestopmotion
    @alchemistprimestopmotion Před 11 měsíci +5

    6:23 its unicron not unicorn

  • @lordnul1708
    @lordnul1708 Před rokem +17

    And then there's the Robots in Disguise continuity where Optimus Prime and Ultra Magnus could combine to form "Omega Prime", although I am unsure if the combined form should count as his own entry since, again, combined form from a specific continuity

    • @ammitthedevourerofsouls
      @ammitthedevourerofsouls Před rokem +2

      The name is Optimus Prime to Prime Optimus Optimus Primed in the book of creation and Arch Angel Metatron.

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@ammitthedevourerofsouls hi dude how are you today

    • @ammitthedevourerofsouls
      @ammitthedevourerofsouls Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@thesadistor-hl7lw Absolutely fantastic. Extremely grateful for the shift of consciousness the universe is currently undergoing. How was your stay on earth school? How are you doing? Have an amazing Apocalypse and enjoy the ride.

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 8 měsíci

      @@ammitthedevourerofsouls good so can I ask you something please

    • @ammitthedevourerofsouls
      @ammitthedevourerofsouls Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@thesadistor-hl7lw You can. I might not know the answer but I could ask. What is your intention? Are you symbiotic? Have you considered also asking Arch Angel Metatron the hall of records for answers as well? Metatron could show you what you are looking for. In the meantime I can at least try to answer from what I've learned on earth school. Be specific with as many details as possible like narrowing down a Google search for the best possible answer and outcome. I'm completely neutral to this experiment. You may ask however it might not be what everyone has been taught during the earth school information we had access to I focus more universally than just the earthly point of view. But can also see from the earthly point of view. Asking as to why God created everyone differently as to how the universe works and how everyone can make everything work to honor everyone not just the few. If that makes sense?

  • @maxmagrsth5532
    @maxmagrsth5532 Před rokem +1

    I learned about smokescreen potential in tfp

  • @michaelsky2701
    @michaelsky2701 Před rokem +2

    Optimus narrating the video for 13 Primes.

  • @johnhorton4436
    @johnhorton4436 Před rokem +25

    So safe to say That Primer was a More Fully Sentient Artificial Intelligence Like Machine Prime Being even More Self aware then his other Primes

  • @danielgaitan6738
    @danielgaitan6738 Před 9 měsíci +3

    What about sentinel prime

  • @umbreontrainerblake8375
    @umbreontrainerblake8375 Před rokem +6

    Correction alchemist prime was fetured as a toy he was a build a figure with parts of him coming in seperate figures to be build after collection

  • @jordanm3011
    @jordanm3011 Před rokem +1

    Question whats show is it showing at8:48

  • @Chayoeverett
    @Chayoeverett Před rokem +2

    What is dynasty of primes? I can't find it anywhere

  • @Dodo-yj2bi
    @Dodo-yj2bi Před 10 měsíci +3

    what about zeta prime and sentinel prime

  • @EndChineseGenocide
    @EndChineseGenocide Před rokem +2

    Dawg, I didn't know les Claypool made the transformers!

  • @khmak9387
    @khmak9387 Před měsícem +2

    Why did Galvatron refer to Optimus as "Prime" if there were so many of them?

  • @minotaur_king1733
    @minotaur_king1733 Před rokem +2

    Does anyone have a link to the comic ?

  • @joevanreyb.bacuyag8300
    @joevanreyb.bacuyag8300 Před rokem +1

    Can you may an explanation of cyber key of transformers.

  • @alexnguyen8346
    @alexnguyen8346 Před 11 měsíci +3

    what about sentinel prime?

  • @joshualisojo4832
    @joshualisojo4832 Před rokem +13

    Who did the concept for these thumbnail cuz they look good I still try to find the one for cheetor

  • @kevonnigordon8157
    @kevonnigordon8157 Před 10 měsíci +3

    So is sentinel prime not a prime

  • @RosskillbaneC
    @RosskillbaneC Před 10 měsíci +3

    Where is sentinel is it just a bayverse thing?

    • @GalvatronStudios
      @GalvatronStudios Před 11 dny

      Sentinel Prime is an interesting case. In most continuities, he is not a member of the 13 Primes. He just carries the title of Prime because he was an early leader of the Autobots. He also goes by a different name Zeta Prime but I think I speak for most fans when I say Zeta and Sentinel are two different characters. In G1, Sentinel was a member of the Original Primes but other than that, he’s just a title carrier.

  • @redgravecity4728
    @redgravecity4728 Před rokem +1

    Why does it show 2 different versions on Optimus prime at 14:55?

  • @garybirch2520
    @garybirch2520 Před rokem +4

    Can you do a video on the powers and abilities of the Armor of Unicron?

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 7 měsíci +1

      hi dude how are you

    • @garybirch2520
      @garybirch2520 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@thesadistor-hl7lw good

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@garybirch2520 great to hear so can I ask you something please

    • @garybirch2520
      @garybirch2520 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@thesadistor-hl7lw sure

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@garybirch2520 I want to create A transformer like liege MAXIMO and siege perilous so can you please send me your badass first name last name ideas please

  • @lunarsyed
    @lunarsyed Před 10 měsíci +1

    wat series r shown here?

  • @JUSCHILIN1
    @JUSCHILIN1 Před rokem

    Am so confused a tonus, this is too much to fathom

  • @TotallydisappearedfromYT
    @TotallydisappearedfromYT Před měsícem

    23:55 woah 😮

  • @Trav_Char_and_Zo
    @Trav_Char_and_Zo Před 7 měsíci +1

    Transformers All Thirteen Primes:

  • @calvinkolling8357
    @calvinkolling8357 Před rokem +2

    Decepticon transform and rise up

  • @mattschannel7657
    @mattschannel7657 Před 10 měsíci +2

    What about sentienal

  • @aditghifari5039
    @aditghifari5039 Před rokem +4

    All primes: bickering and ready to fight each other.
    13th prime born and started speaking.
    All primes: so cute........ why we fight at first??

  • @kamkilledkam
    @kamkilledkam Před rokem +3

    What about sentinel prime?

  • @V8DV
    @V8DV Před rokem

    Is the narrator on other channels? His voice reminds me of a creepypasta narrator but I can't remember the channels name

  • @zeborred7033
    @zeborred7033 Před 10 měsíci

    1:11 wait what was that game just now???

  • @dashinhayes
    @dashinhayes Před rokem +1

    Idk if this is an AI voice but he sounds tired of talking lol

  • @CaptainPilipinas
    @CaptainPilipinas Před 6 měsíci

    ....
    02. (the [Light]'s (the main Destiny omniverses' own Tried imitating depiction of Him anyways)./)GA Humanity (for an example): "No thank you.".
    03. marathon multiverse Humankind(?), pre/post-Human-forerunner war era(/and even UEG|UNSC/CAA era) Humankind, UCN|UCA/ISA/ICSA era Humankind, old one era -(/even Sirius era)- Humankind, pre-iron men AI-Revolt era GAOT era -(PRE!-IOM era)- Humankind, and even those like GAH era Humankind, culture universe(?) Humankind, pre-qax victory era Humankind, post-Human downstreamers, etc examples like them mentioned's all: "no thanks."
    *(**38:25**).*

  • @muhammadyusoffjamaluddin

    The real mysterious Prime goes to....
    Bumblebee....
    Yeah no shock, just a jolt...

  • @Good_Hot_Chocolate
    @Good_Hot_Chocolate Před 4 měsíci

    I thought that said "To Fight Ultra Evil Unicorn"

  • @Blackforrest_samurai
    @Blackforrest_samurai Před rokem +1

    1,000 like

  • @isaiahmcneese5766
    @isaiahmcneese5766 Před 3 měsíci

    is his name rjchard ?

  • @mahirkabir3286
    @mahirkabir3286 Před rokem +3

    Wait so Setinel Prime isn''t one the original 13? Also who is Zeta Prime from the Transformers:War For Cybertron game?

    • @Freethinker_94
      @Freethinker_94 Před rokem

      No

    • @martingarm2872
      @martingarm2872 Před rokem +5

      He was the previous leader before Oprimus, the original 13 primes lived and reigned all at once while the “new” ones were passing the matrix generation after generation.

    • @Tevatron044
      @Tevatron044 Před 10 měsíci +2

      He was the previous holder of the matrix and the prime that preceded optimus. In the aligned continuity, Sentinel Zeta Prime was an elected prime, not a real prime, kinda like how Caesar became a Roman title, not a direct descendant of Julius Caesar himself, sentinel zeta became a prime under the quintesson deception

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@Freethinker_94 hi dude how are you today

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 8 měsíci

      @@martingarm2872 hi dude how are you

  • @robertmercer8629
    @robertmercer8629 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Forgot sentinel prime but ok

  • @emoasiankid9276
    @emoasiankid9276 Před rokem +1

    Seintenel prime?

  • @breach-clips1767
    @breach-clips1767 Před rokem +4

    why cant we make more movies about the other primes

    • @user-ze3lk1ov5b
      @user-ze3lk1ov5b Před rokem +1

      Probably because their story takes place in Cybertron and they are insanely Op so budget problems

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 7 měsíci

      @@user-ze3lk1ov5b hi dude how are you

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 6 měsíci

      @@user-ze3lk1ov5b hi are you there

  • @Mewzyc
    @Mewzyc Před 11 měsíci +1

    Where is Amazon Prime?

  • @johnnycage112
    @johnnycage112 Před rokem +2

    Liege Maximo video when?

  • @Thfishy70
    @Thfishy70 Před 11 měsíci

    What happened to only. A prime can kill a prime megatron wasn’t a prime but he killed Optimus

  • @AFCManUk
    @AFCManUk Před rokem +1

    Sooo,,,,Rodimus Prime??
    Is he a new 14th Prime, or an amalgamation of all 13 Original Primes?

    • @tartatovsky
      @tartatovsky Před 7 měsíci +2

      No. All the primes after the thirteenth are mere titles for bearer of the Matrix.

    • @AFCManUk
      @AFCManUk Před 7 měsíci

      @@tartatovsky Even though the Matrix itself physically changed Hot Rod into Rodimus Prime?
      I assume it also changed Orion Pax into Optimus Prime after Alpha Trion rebuilt him, or is Rodimus the only know Prime to be changed by the Matrix?

    • @tartatovsky
      @tartatovsky Před 7 měsíci +1

      Irrelevant, none of the Matrix Bearers (Zeta/Sentinel/Nova) are considered part of the 13th Primes since they are merely leaders of the Cybertronian of their time. Depends on the continuity, only Optimus are included since he's a reincarnated 13th. @@AFCManUk

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@AFCManUk hi dude how are you

    • @AFCManUk
      @AFCManUk Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@thesadistor-hl7lw Hey, good thanks. And yourself?

  • @thelowquat27
    @thelowquat27 Před 11 měsíci

    Who's on the thumbnail?

  • @xelaleo18
    @xelaleo18 Před 10 měsíci +2

    uhhh...what happened to Nova Prime?

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 8 měsíci +1

      hi dude how are you

    • @xelaleo18
      @xelaleo18 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@thesadistor-hl7lw uhh I'm fine?....y?

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@xelaleo18 I'm great so can I ask you something please

    • @xelaleo18
      @xelaleo18 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@thesadistor-hl7lw Proceed

    • @thesadistor-hl7lw
      @thesadistor-hl7lw Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@xelaleo18 I want to create A transformer with A badass short first name and long last name like liege MAXIMO so please send me your badass first name last name please

  • @RosskillbaneC
    @RosskillbaneC Před 10 měsíci +2

    Dam vector primes pretty powerful then

  • @vidyasagar3319
    @vidyasagar3319 Před 4 měsíci

    actually human primes in india are bengali "commandos",andhra "delta force",and "black ops" tamil
    "find the others :: ??",here feeling problems !!! like "east transformers:west stan lee:marvel,dc,dark horse)" totally american !!!

  • @prestonasher2291
    @prestonasher2291 Před rokem +2

    I would suggest slowing down and clearly make the difference between the characters you are talking about.
    I stopped the video because it was annoying and wasn't enjoyable.

  • @frederickclements2647
    @frederickclements2647 Před 29 dny +1

    It's pronounced quintessons not quintessens

  • @Mario2M
    @Mario2M Před rokem +4

    1st???wow

  • @RameezAhmed-uf4bw
    @RameezAhmed-uf4bw Před rokem +11

    1st: Prima prime
    2nd: alpha prime
    3rd: nexus prime
    4th quintus prime
    5th oynx prime
    6th alchemist prime
    7th micronus prime
    8th Zeta Prime
    9th vector prime
    10th Amalgamist Prime
    12th Maximus Prime
    13th nova prime
    14th (Hidden Prime): Solus Prime
    15th Megatronus Prime Aka The Fallen
    16th: Sentinel Prime
    17th: Optimus Prime
    18: Rodimus Prime (The Last Prime)

  • @Rexx_1414
    @Rexx_1414 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Everyone forgets about sentinel prime

  • @shakenbake2k479
    @shakenbake2k479 Před 10 měsíci

    Where's sentinel?!?!

  • @redragon1990
    @redragon1990 Před rokem +1

    Actually the title of "Prime" refers to prime numbers

  • @EfrenDavalos-zd5qh
    @EfrenDavalos-zd5qh Před 14 dny

    Hey
    Let me ask the a ??!

  • @elamriti
    @elamriti Před rokem

    there is only 1

  • @thomassierp5583
    @thomassierp5583 Před rokem +3

    Too fast, too confusing. Not worth the time.

  • @fabianwendygino6920
    @fabianwendygino6920 Před rokem +2

    Hi lady, you need to buy cough drops because the guys aka men don't like your voice.....

  • @Imaddongai
    @Imaddongai Před rokem +1

    you talk too fast, and your pronunciation is not clear.

  • @TarisRedwing
    @TarisRedwing Před 8 měsíci +2

    Did an AI write this script? Its all over the place and makes little sense 😂

  • @KuldeepSingh-cm3oe
    @KuldeepSingh-cm3oe Před měsícem

    Giving vote to bjp means making India 50 years backward.

  • @Khaleel85
    @Khaleel85 Před rokem +1

    Oh he said Solace not soulless….soulless prime would cool

  • @matthewdecoursey6524
    @matthewdecoursey6524 Před rokem +1

    you said unicorn instead of unicron lmaoo

  • @muhaiminmin8759
    @muhaiminmin8759 Před rokem +1

    imagine losing 1 arm to megatron lmaooo weak ahh prime

  • @isaactelesco2141
    @isaactelesco2141 Před rokem +1

    Does Noone else remember when it was revealed that cybertron was secretly unicorn and he had deceived the Cybertronians to leave earth(primus) during their attempts of expansion. And twisted the truth. Causing the cybertronian war by encouraging the split of the autobots and Decepticons?