How To Recover From Benzodiazepine Addiction
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I want to let everybody know that it is possible to get off benzos. I am 32 now, and took Klonopin 2mg a day for about 10 years from 17-27ish. Getting off was difficult but I am so glad that I did. I feel FAR less anxious off the benzos than I ever was while on them.
I'm still a reck 2.6 yrs out be honest do we ever fully recover I'm sure you know.what I'm speaking about the Holocaust shit
@@_blew_a_fuse_7372 I feel that I have fully recovered except for 1 nagging symptom. And that is, when I am going to sleep at night, sometimes I twitch a little uncontrollably. It isn’t that bad though and it only happens occasionally. So no big deal for me, only kind of annoying.
@@Maxmaxmax63 how ya did it take to get down to that ? Cuz they keep saying ptsd which I agree but this is making it c ptsd shit crazy
@@_blew_a_fuse_7372 I do think that a fair bit of the PAWS from benzo withdrawal is psychosomatic. Exercise, eat healthy, living a productive life - those are among the best thing you can do to ‘fully recover’.
@@Maxmaxmax63 still going man !! Down to minimal Ms shit the fight continues !
Most people I’ve encountered after six years going through protracted benzo injury are NOT ADDICTS! I, for example, was given this drug for sleep during a health scare I was working through. I was sick immediately. But my doctor told me no, couldn’t be the drug. Took me five months to figure it out. Please stop relating it all to addiction. Maybe some. Most of us were under the care of a doctor taking our medication as prescribed 🤦♀️
Same here my methadone clinic made me get off my kpins and he totally told me that I can get off them by taking clonidine and I would feel like crap for about a month. He didn't say anything about seizures. Once I finally was off benzos I was ok but then I got my first real job in a while and I'd be getting panic attacks out of nowhere causing me to have to leave work and go to the ER and they didn't do anything. What's so wrong with taking a pill that takes away your anxiety, relaxes you, and makes you get things done, as compared to not taking them. I could stop taking vistaril, gabapentin, and Zoloft if I was just prescribed Klonopin again. I can't even talk to the doctors here in Cleveland like you can talk to Dr B. He makes you feel comfortable and don't judge you cause he actually understands the effects of being on these benzos for years. I wish I can have him as a doctor.
Thank you so much for all that you do. Especially for those who are watching loved ones struggle in silence. 💙
It means so much to find a community of like minds.
You both are so incredibly helpful to people going through the thick of benzo withdrawal. Dr. B, you have a wealth of knowledge on the subject matter. You bring out information I have not heard anywhere else! Thank you for being so educated and passionate about helping folks in this incredibly difficult situation. I wish I would have found your videos years earlier while I went through my own benzo withdrawal period. It is physical and mental torment if you don't taper slow enough or go cold turkey. I thank God for doctors like you and my new doctor who actually take the time to truly help people.
How come there is no medicine to detox you off benzos but they got opioid meds???
Which drugs are you referring to?
Watching this again after several months later . You two are geniuses together!! Dr B what you said around the 12:52 mark was something only a magnificent doctor like you figured out and could put it as brilliantly as you did. Bravo 👏 👏👏 and Bravo to Parham for all he does for everyone!!!!
My question is maybe some people just don’t have robust GABA activity and so they pop a benzo or drink alcohol to take the edge off and relieve tension. We grab anything to try and relieve suffering damp down fear anxiety. Being anxious and depressed is normal in my eyes we are fragile mortal beings in a cruel indifferent world
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Benzos got me locked up in 2006, haven't touched them since but I'm struggling with H ......
Great information
I'm so grateful I found your channel. I'm 60 yrs old. My story is similar to Rochelle Schuman. I also have chronic back pain. Started tapering 1mg klonopin 2x/day 4 weeks ago. Been prescribed it for 11 yrs.
very good show
Please where are you located I need a consul . I have been taking clonazepam 4mg start in 2011 .0.5 and the last couple years 2 mg twice a day . I went to detox for 7 days I am right now 2 weeks only taking 0.5 mg 3 times a day 1.5 I feel awful my withdraws are really worse than before . Please help me
I was the first guest…..Elijah. I am so much better now.
I'm listening carrefully.
Dr, i would know if you think Ashton's Manual claim about possibly rebounding from gabaergic use (f.e magnolia bark, valerian, taurine.. etc) is true ?
For me it make sense but i dont understand how one could live a normal life as there is many thing that could trigger a rebound withdrawal in food or else (f.e origano, containing a lot of luteolin, or really anything else..).
What is your opinion about ?
Thank you !
Where so they rank as far as difficulty to kick after a long time regular use?
Your the best Dr. B
Question: when drying out from alcohol what would a gp generally give an elderly person with alcoholic tendencies, as far as medication to “ease” alcohol withdrawals? Is suicide a risk?
Dr b. Is it safe to have General anesthetic 8 months post taper from diazepam. Is it possible to ask for midazolam to be excluded from the cocktail. And will propofol send me back into withdrawal
Thank you l, thank you so much for mentioning that it’s very important to pay attention to what’s happening during pregnancy and how it affects further the child and later on an adult. Well, in the US healthy pregnant women have to work, like horses, almost until the time of their first contraction. One of my colleagues actually drove herself to the hospital while having light contractions. How about society needs to start respecting pregnancy as vital for healthy society, including it’s effect on addiction?
I can’t tell you how much I agree w you and thank you!
I understand that Dr. B doesn’t have much time. I don’t know how much time Parham has but I would really like to see Parham online more if he has the time.
Dr, you should create a page showing how you would do a crossover between medication‘s versus Heather Ashton. Scared of mixing 2 benzos.
Should be nice if mr dr B did a video about benzo again and sub and polysubtaance and how you can harm reduce how you can like u talk about water training sometimes the motivation sucks
Love from Sweden 🇸🇪
What to do. Should i stay on some minimum dose permanent coz of my history of addiction and 61 years.
Dunno if you guys keep up with your comments from this long ago but a couple things come to mind. In Japan the way the pregnant mother is treated throughout the whole pregnancy delivery post delivery thing is just phenomenal. Such detailed and intensive pre during and post care.
Check it out.
My sis weighed in at 1.5 lbs at birth. 1953 Got too much oxygen which messed up her eyes and has had health issues all her life. Brain “warts” thyroid removal female organ issues, miscarried a couple times, stroke, the gamut glaucoma.
My own deal, mom had toxemia, went out to get something from the market, rear ended a parked car, knocked all her from teeth out.
They couldn’t find my pulse so cesarean, cord wrapped round my neck. Had full on colick for 6 months
We were both DES Diethystelbestrol babies. Yeah,,, Got issues.
Dr B can you please tell me why my Dr has prescribed me Prasoin 1mg 1x @ bedtime for nightmares due to my PTSD? He says its old school for what was used for veterans long ago. I am also on 2 other benzo’s for aniexty and panic attacks and a sleeping pill
He is correct
I've been on 6mg of xanax a day since 2006 prescribed by the military then the bumped me to 8mg a day plus klonopin in the morning and one at night. I'm off the klonopin all together but have been steady with 6mgs a day since 2006. I want to get off of them but don't know where to start and fear it. I'm afraid I'm going to be on xanax for ever. Any true place to look for true understanding and help. Va told me I could just stop taking I'll be okay which I know isn't right. As of right now 6mgs a day of xanax since 2006 for panic attacks and anxiety but I just feel doomed. I don't know what to do. Any suggestions would be great.
Read chapter 2 of 'The Ashton Manual' (just search for it on the internet). It recommends switching to valium and slow tapering down. Hope you are doing well.
I am 61 and addict for all of my life but now its too hard form me to stop expecialy from xanax. I take 6 mg prox a day ànd i think a lot of suicide. I would like to thanks all of you for your sharing and advices from Dr.B and Parham. So your coments are usefull. But i realy dont know what to do. I am in my prison of dirty apartment and would like to not leave bloody mess behind me. Take care and thank you from Austria.
How are you doing now
I have those thoughts too
My questions I was on 10mg diazapam 3 times a day for 5 years I was put in a psych ward for other reasons and my psychiatrist took me off all my diazapam cold turkey no tapering I was worried about bad withdrawel symptoms and had even heard of seizures being caused by withdrawel when I mentioned this to him he said as I was in hospital I was in a safe environment to go cold turkey I went through many many months after going through hell while body adjusted to the valium coming out my system all I was offered was promethazine 50mg in your opinions is this good practise all always watch your videos keep up the good work
Absolute negligence.
The same thing happened to me and the Dr wouldn't to listen to me . I ended up having a seizure ! They then administerd zanax. The Dr then tried to cover it up. One of the worst experiences of my life.
How come its cheper for medecine compani too a person to buy big amongt of benzos than a small like 8 euro for 80 pills and 15 euro for 40 pills o0
Dr. B please respond: what is the true conversion from Alprazolam to Diazepam. The Ashton Manual and the official UK NHS guidelines say it's 1mg Alpra for 20 mg Diaz, but in my country the officials say its 1 mg Alpra for only 10mg Diaz. That's a massive difference. One could underdose me, the other give me a higher dose again. Thanks.
They reckon o.5 is 5millgram of valium
So glad I was able to wean off this nightmare drug.
I like what Zack said because these stupid doctors think that we're practically overdosing on Suboxone which really isn't that possible while taking a benzodiazepine especially for the right reasons. That pisses me off to the maximum
How is it going for zac am in the same position
I've had a mess of circumstances that have put me into the severe withdrawal category. It's really a mental nightmare that lasts a long time.
I just wondered your opinion as I have never heard of this at thirty mg decided by a consultant psych I thought most or all drs would taper you off slowly knowing what a strain it causes on body and mind
Im trying get off ativan 2mg a day was on 6 of the 2mg daily now went to 1mg a day i will keep tapering by 1mg a day or less if i dont have any i get violently sick but im on subs so im afraid of possible respitory depession plus i have severe emphesyma and my suboxone dr says i need quit the ativan. Slowly. Its terrible but not like when i had heroin withdrawls. So i know i can do it. 😊
Ove been on in Danish started with a doctor peskriped me rivotril (klonopin) i have done kold turkey never tried Something soo painfull all my life.
Can "brain lock" be a symptom from benzo and tapering? Like you don't understand a simple thing and become overwhelmed of any normal things. And can't understand that people can do normal things and live their lives. I am on klonopin 2,5 mg as prescriped and tapering and am normally a smart active and social person.
Yes it can
How do I properly switch from .25mg Klonopin 3x per day to Valium?
U take 25mg klonopin a day?????
@@Mrxleif .25lol
I take 0.5mg klonopin for my insomnia for a year but now i think its not enough for me. I am not able to sleep even with 0.5mg klonopin. I think i have developed tolerance towards the drug. I want to withdraw i did though but experienced horrible withdraw symptoms. I decided to take benzos for rest of my life. Would suggest any alternative to treat insomnia and how to quit these benzos
Switch to valium and try to taper very slowly
How do you cure the insomnia and anxiety?
@@warrengreene6143 i think there is no cure for insomnia
@warrengreene6143 time, exercise..good food..therapy
My back vibrates like a brick or concrete swirling vibrating and feels like bone on bone!my stomach vibrates so fast like concrete too. Everyday I'm suffering and feel like I'm being tortured! I'm bed ridden and the pain is unbearable 😭 I can't handle it anymore. It my 3rd time going thru Klonopin withdrawal 🥲I need help! The torture is too much😭
This dr should try a BENZOS for a few months & then taper & see how horrible this is ???? He’s Way tooooo casual about his advice & is basically saying nothing
I say this all the time about the psychos
I'm on keppra now 250mg's daily instead of Clonazapam.
I was diagnosed with Polymyositus, but I never had. To keep this short. My problem is Celiac Disease which messes work your Central Nervouse System.
Is there a number I can call for help? I desperately need it!! Please 😭😭😭
Very very hard to taper i give up
As a fellow small dose clonipin dependent I feel for Elijah..
I would love to get off Benzo. It replaced People I miss, I.e. Family, Friends, etc., so Benzo help s me to sleep distracting me from áll humán needs.
How fast can I get addicted? I have aprozalam 1 mg. I take 2 dayli .... I did this for almost 2 weeks 😢 I am so afraid
I dnt know how to write very well in english but if you are only 2 weeks stop using it… and do it no more please of you are streesed drink chamomile do exercise and meditate eat healthy forget these pills it would destroy your life
My back vibrates like a brick or concrete swirling n rubs against my ribs..feels like bone on bone. Its pure torture! I wanna scream!😭and my air hunger is so SEVERE that i been to the e.r like 8 times cause I panic🥲This is my 3rd time going thru Klonopin withdrawal. First time and 2nd time never vibrated or had air hunger this time is torture. I cant deal w this everyday 😭
Yes you can. I survived 3 years of non stop akathisia plus 60 other symptoms. YOU CAN AND WILL SURVIVE THIS AND GET OUT OF THIS MESS.
Switch to Valium seems better?
I am coming off clonazapam with valium. The ashton method
Way longer lasting half life so u don't get interdose withdrawals which are scary as eff
Dr I love you. You are the best. But GABA is not bullshit for helping with benzo withdrawal. I'm 63'year old RECON MARINE vet and struggled with benzo withdrawal off and on for years. Torture for sure. Until GABA. Water and working out or course . But GABA helped with withdrawal. Anxiety and sleep was much much better taking the GABA while tapering off the Klonopin. I'm off Praise Jesus.
Man 8m.so fucked up from.this shit im.to afraid to evem touch another benzo im.fucjed this shit killed me.
I think i can help people in Illinois if they want my advice as a patient.
Vitamins are not fda approved and feel so vitamin deprived
My doctor didn't fill my prescription for 4 days and I was so sick I had to call off work. Sweating bullets, body aches, brain lock and nausea. I got fired. I told my doctor about it and he got real sh**** with me and said "sometimes glitches in life happen, you need to work on your coping mechanisms" I hate it here
You are the first person I have read that uses the word brain lock. I use that term too and then few people have had similar problem. I suffer brain lock all day, am tapering with Ashton manual and suffer all day. I was prescriped a big amount of benzo in 2021 and no warnings after trauma and then two quick tapers went badly wrong.
I love to exercise but can't now, I fear of everything and can't be with my partner and mom and other people because I tell my hell all the time to my loved ones and feel like I'm in a different reality from other people. I feel depersonalization and derealisation and disconnected from people and enviroment and my loved ones.
It is awful to be isolated. I was confident active social person and now i'm alone.
Have at least seven months to taper. Can't do much. And I wake up in hell and terror and feel I die in that second and can't take one day anymore like this and realise I'm still stuck with this drug. I want my good life back.
Did you have any of those problems? All the best.
@@lauriina85 Yes, I have many similar side effects. It really is a crappy drug and I wish I had never started taking it. I miss my "old" anxiety, when I felt regularly anxious. I think I actually saw your comment and "brain lock" seemed like the perfect way to describe what I was feeling, so I borrowed the term from you! I hope that's OK. I'm working on tapering myself down right now because my doctor doesn't understand what PAWS is and cannot help. I hope you have a good doctor that is helping you through this.
@@lauriina85 I have also been through alcohol withdrawal and that's nothing on this. To get through this takes all we have. I also used to be very socially active and have lost my job recently which makes it even worse. We are some of the strongest people on the planet to go through this, please don't ever give up! How are you feeling today?
@@leafyveins4985 Do you have horror waking ups like you feel you die in that second and can't take one day anymore like this? I have had few answers that it is normal symptom from benzo and tapering. I fear waking ups all day. I wake up and no brain and know that I can't do anything but suffer and fight against suicidal thoughts and can't believe that my brain doesn't work and fear tapering because I have been on low doses and had insomnia and puking. Now I have heavy sleep medication 200 mg of quetapine and 20 mg of temazepam and those are going to go lower too but my doctor says first we have to get rid of diazepam. But I know temazepam is causing also anxiety and depression, benzo after all and my doctor admits that quetiapine is too high and I tapered it from 300 mg to 200 mg in the beginning of this third time of tapering. She had to put me on those because I didn't sleep for half year just 0-3 hours a night.
Do you have to isolate and is it difficult to have normal conversation to you? I can't speak anything but this and can't help it. Can't see my partner because of that. I'm constant fight or flight state and panic.
Do you really also feel that your brain just doesn't understand normal things and funktion? I fear I have the worst brain lock and it is permanent. Thank you for writing me.
@@lauriina85 Yes, I have many similar symptoms right now. I recommend trying to distract yourself. Try not to obsess over your symptoms (easier said than done, I know) but I've been seeing your comments on these videos a lot and I don't think it's healthy to watch nothing but benzo recovery videos. I know you're suffering and you gotta talk about it though, I am so sorry you're suffering. I try to take a walk every day, try a new meditative exercise, try a new food, make your brain focus on SOMETHING else. Do not keep gnawing on it like this. If you only focus on this than your brain cannot stop obsessing over it and focus on healing.
I cold turkey then when the 6 layer of hell came ya know the pins and needles and delerium shit I electrocuted myself 2x it's worked but don't do what I do I'm completely insane now NO JOKE ! Why did I do that cuz I knew it was electrical issue so don't bother asking 2.6 yrs out it's tolerable but I still suffer !
Fuck dilerium is the reason why i never would want ct
Great for helping people, but saying to a 50-60 year old woman that adding opiates on top of benzos is a good idea is at best bad advice and worst just plain cruel.
It’s always the same 30 minute introduction, followed up by another 30 minutes of complete Bmm
Dr.s doing a great job taking neutral position and being carefull on recommandations. I guess, i'm no doctor.
Now regarding patients.
The obvious is that BENZO ARE THE PROBLEM UH ? I'm under the impression that everyone is blaming ONE thing where in fact there could be thousands things going on... taking the exemple of Heather, no offense to here (+good job getting into helping other addicts!) : Medication, overweight (again no offense, that goes in pair with medication), low excerise, pale skin probably no sunlight and/or poor diet and so on.
About those thousand things that could go on at this woman health and pain could be diabeties, or high insluin resistance. Or really anything else, gout, permanent muscle tensions from abilify akathisia, blablabla.. really have to take things with a athlete discipline paired with an artist creativity.
Running 10miles every day
😍😍😍
@heather please get a hold of me please 🥺
No taper! Go to rehab and do the work. Tapering only prolongs the hell. It never worked for me.
no taper from benzos? thats a one way trip to neurological injury, or a potentially fatal seizure. each to their own i guess.
@@lean6am795 Most of the people who taper still have neurological damage. The damage is caused by the drug, not the withdrawal. I went to rehab. Got clean in 23 days no taper. They put me on non-benzo anti-seizure meds. Yes, it was hell, but I didn't die. And I didn't have to taper alone for years with the constant threat of accidentally rekindling and having to start all over again. I tried tapering many times over a decade and it never worked for me. Rehab saved my life! They also taught me life coping skills that help me through my issues. I'm almost 2 years clean today!
You was on xanax for 10 years and you recover on a hospital in 23 days?
They put you on other medication?
That is beyond spectacular... over a decade and then off in 23 days, fair play to you. I've never heard anything quite as extreme as that, how the heck were you even getting benzos for over a decade?
I give up...
No way!! You're not alone friend!! Someone else out there is feeling Your pain at this very moment. Don't you ever stop fighting. You're stronger then you think.!!! It's you vs you friend! You can do it! I promise you. Talk to me!!💜💙❤
Hey never say that, what's going on ? I'm still healing but you can too, can I help ?
dont give up! its hard but doable
I always try to do something i tell myself tomorow and i dont i tell my self now i going to eat 3 Times a day etc but the motivation suck and is like hell just want to lay in the bed and kind of shoot the problem i have problem poly abuse and i am really info training etc but is so fkn hard like pressure like parhham said start a Walk or whatever could u make a new video about how to maby tapper if u have a lot of drog abuse in the system What you van do for harm reduce training get aptite etc @parham
DR B IS THERE WITHDRAWALS FROM GABAPENTIN I SHOULDN'T NEED TO ASK DR B OK ???
I can tell you yes there is especially if you're on a higher dose. I'm on 800 three times a day and when I forget to take it I feel weird.
THANK YOU DR B YOUR THE MOST OK THANKS FOR BEING A CAREING DR AS YOU ARE, NEED MORE OF UNDERSTAND ADDICTION IT IS A VERY ODD THING OF THE BRAIN THAT'S WHY IT'S ADDICTION THANK YOU AGAIN DR B. THE DOC. YA
If you really have neropapathy after taken the gabapentin and stopping your symptoms will be so much worst as far as if using the medicine as a "high" I can not speak on
I know that when you are in a detox program, depending on what you are abusing, they use gabapentin for the withdrawals
I have been thru Gabapentin withdrawal several times in the last 5 years. For me, there was definitely some symptoms which mimicked sort of mild opiate withdrawal...anxiety, general aches, sweating, restless legs. Never lasted more than 72 hours in my experience, but it may be dose dependent. Probably best to titrate your dose down as low as possible before attempting to stop altogether.
Dude try Coors light 12 beers a night followed by klonopin .5 mgs upon awakening repeat that forever. I love klonopin.
O man you dont know what your saying brother by careful thats hell in earth