Long Tube Headers vs. Test Pipes - Sound Comparison
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- čas přidán 19. 04. 2020
- In this video I compare the sound of the Fast Intentions long tube headers and the Fast Intentions test pipes installed on my 370Z. I talk briefly on the performance difference between the two, and provide an update on the supercharger build.
IG: @the_carizon
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Joakim Karud - Road Trip - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Crazy you can hear the engine breathing better with the long tubes,
Thank you so much for the video man. I was going to go with the headers and the catback from FI. You're the only person I've seen do that actual combo. I'm definitely going through with it now.
Jeremy Robert's did you complete this mod? Have you tune it?
Thumbs up for having the FI TDX with the 10" muffler. I was looking for sound clips with it since I just made the purchase a few weeks ago.
The exact video I needed!
The question I have involves not sound but performance difference between the two, which I know you touched on toward the end of your video. I currently have Tomei Expreme headers in my track-dedicated 350Z coupled with high-flow cats and aftermarket dual exhaust. I am considering changing to long-tube headers, either RSI or PPE. However, to save cost, and since my Tomei headers are quality, I wonder how close to long-tube headers I could get by keeping my Tomei and adding a y-pipe and test pipe. Can anyone comment?
Can you still install the O² sensors on the long tubes? I have a G35X, I was saving up to get a 370z because I want another Z. But I'm now considering getting an Infiniti M45 VK45DE V8 or even better M56 VK56DE 5.6 liter V8! Both sedans can push over 500hp with just FBO, get a tune and they can push upwards 600hp!
My other option is my friends father has a badass 300zxTT. That was my 1st car, so I have a fondness for those Z's. His has been blueprinted, port & polished heads, throttle bodies, upgraded turbos & injectors, full exhaust, underdrive pulley, CAI, has the NA diff which has better gearing and no HICAS, stage 3 racing clutch, HKS blow off valve, turbo timer, etc. It's around the 750ish hp range. Or at least it was 12yrs ago when he last dyno'd it. It's pretty much been sitting for that long wasting away. He couldn't ever get it to pass inspection back then. But it should only be safety now that it's older, it's a 95. It just needs a lot of tlc and a whole new suspension as well as some updated parts. I think I can get it for under 7k.
I also noticed that you're in McKinney, Tx. Crazy that's where that 300zx is at. I actually went to MHS 9-11 grade until I moved back to Dallas. I'm in Denison now,
I'd be interested in those test pipes but I doubt they'd fit my VQ35. I love my G35x but it's no Z. By this time next yr I will have a M45 or M56 for sure. They are definitely sleepers and rarer to see on the road. Everyone is into the Q50 or Q60. I figure I could go the swap route, but it's too much of a headache. I'll just sell my G35X or give it to my girl instead. Anyways it's cool that you live in McKinney. I'll give you a sub for sure to watch your progress on your build. Take it easy...
I prefer the new sound! I can’t wait for your kit! What color pipes are you planning?
I did the ISR Long tubes for 489$ on Black Friday. Tuned at Z1 MS and got like 17WHP outta them. Love them, especially if you're supercharging.
SIX SPEED JONES 17whp from stock? Or did you have test pipes?
I ordered Berks test pipes but cancelled the order because I think I'm going to go with long tube headers instead! I currently have Ark Grip Exhaust on my G37S sedan!
@@sleepervq605 hey I also have a g37S but a coupe & was wondering how did it go with the headers ??
How much was it to be tuned
@@aaronthemartialmechanic893 probably $1000+
Love that exhaust on my Z. A db meter would have been helpful, both inside and outside the car. Tone seems lower on the headers.
Where did you get that wing from? And who did you buy your hood from? I’ve been checking out a few places for my cf hood . @TheCarizon
The longtubes under load sound SO GOOOOD
Hey Man I just found your video, I wanted to ask what wheels do you have on your Z?
Are you in Houston? Any drone for the LTH?
How do you make a video like this putting same car side by side. Very cool
How are the fumes with both?
Currently stuck between FI pipes and LT. Any noticeable differences? What would be YOUR first choice if you re-did it for the first time?
Still long tube headers because I am chasing performance. Long tube headers are lighter than the stock headers and have greater peak horsepower numbers.
However, I would recommend test pipes to most people because they are cheaper and I think sound better.
Long tubes, it isn't just the exit sound. You can hear the smoother rev build. It just sounds happy.
I like the sound of the longtubes more. Almost an exotic sound
I like the long tubes too.
Peep the LC500 on the right at 2:59. Loved the video bro
Long tubes sound like they have more burbling. My preference.
Can you explain the hissing? I have the same sound on my g35HR
I can't. I've had it with test pipes and long tube headers. I believe it has to do with either the loss of exhaust dampers or it's related to the VTC/VVEL system. Can't hear it now that the car is supercharged.
Hey carizon I'm willing to buy your test pipes for the right price. If you still have them where can I message you?
Where’s your steering wheel from
I plan on installing isr long tube headers on my g37 coupe. Is a tune necessary afterwards?
If you will be removing your cats then I would advise it.
Are they making the super charger kit for the G37 too?
Is who? Lots of kits out there. Topgunz Ace kit, soho even makes them for sedans too
I currently have isr resonated test pipes and invidia gemini catback. I’m looking for something louder but still deep. I’m wanting something that’s more prominent when cruising and at idle than the invidia. I ordered a Greddy single exit but am thinking about cancelling. Would like some more recommendations. I would also like to stay around the $1000 range
I have exact same setup for now buy installing isr long tube headers soon. Have you done donne change ?
@@gabriellaplante1924 do you still have this setup? If so do you have Any videos.
Did the long tube headers fit perfect with the fast Intentions exhaust
Yes, FI's Long tube headers natches up oerfectly.
I wanna know how to remove that weird sucking rasp noise when revs drop
shitty vq resonators bro
I know this video is old but what is your suspension/tire set up? Yours does so well in the rain and mine feels sketchy asf. BC coils, spl camber and control arms and spl toe bolts. Nitto 555 G2 255 40 18 Nitto 555G2 295 40 18.
Also long tubes open the exhaust so much. I’m glad I did long tubes as well.
My suspension setup is the same as yours except my tires are 245 and 275, 19's
is this your daily driver??
Just what I was looking for! Great video man! I was thinking about buying the long tube headers from ISR Performance which are made for 350z but I’ve been reading that they also work on 370z. Any thoughts?
New subscriber btw & great build brother!
Some headers are interchangeable between models. You should verify with the manufacturer just to be sure.
I will & thanks for the reply brother!
This is a tough one for me. Obviously the test pipes are like a 3rd of the price or so. They sound pretty similar as well. but the Headers definitely have a more refined sound and sound clearer.
Although the test pipes are cheaper, if you plan on getting short headers in the long run it’s about the same price if you just get long tube headers and not have to purchase test pipes, obviously depending on the pipes and headers the price will vary to either side
3:45 any idea why the car sucks in air the way it does? On the Long tube headers car? After every rev you hear that suction of air
i have that air sucking noise as well. previous owner str8 piped and test pipes. i left test pipes and from test pipes back i went oem and i hear this air release often.
My g37 does the same with lth and fast intentions
I have that myself.. z1 test pipes, after y pipe and 2.5 straight pipes with muffler delete. Since I'm unable to get a tune I'm putting the cats back. Problem is their not oem. Which I'm concerned about. Test pipes cost too much gas money with these Biden prices.. putting them in tomorrow
LTHs sound so good!!!
I’m wanting to get your fast intentions test pipes and cat back exhaust what was the best website to buy from?
Fast Intentions directly.
@@thecarizon504 www.fastintentions.com/product_info.php/cPath/41_45_54_55/products_id/14
Is that correct?
@@thecarizon504 and thanks for the help!
Are you still selling the FI Resonated Test Pipes or did someone buy already?
Already sold
How much do you want for the test pipes? i’m local
PM me on IG
Did you put any heat wrap on your long tubes ?
I would bro I did on mine recently try getting the titanium
Do you know what that tin rattle sound is when you let off the throttle and the motor revs down? Mine does the same thing and I've never been able to figure it out. The resonators maybe?
The hissing noise? Also known as the VQ hiss? Whenever you delete the cats it seems to make that noise. No one I know has been able to explain what causes it.
@@thecarizon504 that's a bummer haha. I hate it. I've gotten used to it though
@@thecarizon504 yup cant find answer. Seems like solution is just finding perfect setup that elevates this hiss.
Maybe loss of back pressure
did u ever find out what it was?
I’m interested in that test pipes if they still available. Pls let me know
Unfortunately I already sold them
Some good content to relax to on my day off 👌
Where do u go for your tunes?
I remote tune with Eugene Turkov at Enthusiast Autocare
Any cell come?? After installation?
You will get a CEL as a result of missing catalytic converters
Great video!! I just got a G37S recently and planning on going resonated test pipes! I feel like it’s the perfect amount of loudness for me haha! Also I see you’re in the same area as me, do you have any recommendations when it comes to shops that could do the install?
I would get in touch with Stephen Oritz, he's a mechanic south of dallas. I do all my own work so outside of that I don't know too many good shops.
@@thecarizon504 Cool cool I’ll definitely check him out. I appreciate it!
@@greybeanie797 bro literally as easy as changing your own oil lol just unbolt the cats and bolt up the test pipes. it might take you 30 minutes at most assuming u have no idea what you're doing. Don't pay for something u can EASILY do your self lol
@@floridacarguys7537 my dad made me take my axle back for my g37 to a shop to get it installed bc he thought it wouldn’t fit. it fit fine then they charged me $100 for it when i could’ve done it easily in 30 minutes but he thought i would somehow fuck up my car by trying to bolt on an axle back if that’s even possible
Hey , I have a G37S and was wondering how did it sound & go ??
How much
sounds good!
I had Berk HFC and swapped to ceramic coated LTH from FI, its definitely louder on colder start and WOT but theres more hiss to it, some people think Im running turbo/supercharger lol oh and fumes are awful with the LTH
My g37 hisses too with fast intentions cat back and isr long tube headers
A whole lotta hissss !!
Any rasp as the rpm are dropping around 3k?
No rasp but I get the vq hiss.
@@thecarizon504 I have stock headers fi test pipes and magnaflow exhaust and the rasp or hiss on the rpm decline sounds so bad. I watched the pipes when the make the sound and they vibrate very bad
it sounds like on the long tubes the pulses are spread more and they are waaay louder
nice editing
Is this too loud for daily driving setup? I really don’t wanna be pissing off my neighbors
I think too loud is going to be relative. I personally don't mind the noise level but it annoys some of the neighbors so I'm going to say yes.
How are you passing inspection with no cats?
Tuned out the check engine light. They don't test emissions.
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I've seen you a few times on 75 near spring valley now, saw you again yesterday.
I was in the black Z with huge chrome lips and the Tomei, definitely noticeable.
Maybe not so noticeable for you though, because whether I pass you or you pass me,
you never look over in my direction which is kinda weird haha.
Every modded Z I've ever ran across, always given mutual head nods or thumbs up.
Not sure if you're shy or what, but don't be afraid to look over for a quick sec and acknowledge a fellow Z driver ;)
I remember passing you! I have a bad habit of not checking out the driver.
I'll give you a wave next time I see you, nice car!
@@thecarizon504haha it's all love man, thanks you too. Will probably be soon if history serves right lol
Long tubes!!!💯
Have you thought about porting your manifold? Great comparison 👌
I have though about it. I don't think with NA the power gains are justifiable, but with FI it might make a noticeable difference.
@@thecarizon504 really??? I was thinking maybe an extra 10-15hp with a touch up tune. I've heard that headers really don't make a difference. I don't know, every one has their differing opinions.
@@thecarizon504 let me know I’m in Dallas
Do a comparison with non resonated test pipe
Long tube headers sounds great
Why did u got FI long tubes instead of isr or ppe or even motordyne? Also I’m pretty sure u know this but just in case u don’t for future videos if u have the car rolling even barely moving it doesn’t make the car hit the 5k limiter you can rev it to redline. Keep up the good videos👍🏼
Yeah I've realized that. I need to start doing revs at a roll. It's stupid that they put that limiter in.
And I went FI for brand preference, plus got a discount.
Up at 3am you just have to to have it in a gear with the clutch in and it lets your rev it out that’s what I do
Long tube headers are definitely better!
Have you sold the test pipes yet? If not DM me! Great video and got a lot of questions answered
Sold
:(
Long tubes for sure 😩love the deep
Hi, I think price wise resonated test pipe will be perfect 👌. Sound good also saving money and hard work to replace headers.
I would say this for 99% of people, absolutely! Test pipes are the most bang for the buck!
@@thecarizon504 would you recommend resonated fi cat back ? and what size sound better 12''' or 8'' resonator?
@@MrGeeky84 The TDX system has no resonators or 18" resonator option. The resonators make the sound much more refined and less raspy. I have nithing but good things to say about their exhaust work.
@@thecarizon504 Im suprised u didnt go with greddy EVO GT exhaust.
the long tubes eliminate that trumpet sound that test pipes give
thats what i wanted to know
Definitely sounds more aggressive with the longtubes. How was the install?
Long but worth it. Easily knocked out in a few hours if you know what you are doing.
Hp gains between them? Great vid btw
It feels like the top end has more go but the only way to know for sure is to dyno it... tuner hasn't been responding back.
The Carizon got the tune yet ? Who is your tuner btw?
if your from California church auto of long beach will tune it real quick
that shifting kinda pissing me off
YES!
Long tube for sure.. Perfect
Nice sounding car bro love my 370z
not much difference, maybe cause of the video. its less bubbley and more smooth
north Texas? 121 maybe
Man, u can really hear the LTH’s scavenge around 3:40
NFSU2 days🥺
Resonated test pipes sound allot better IMO. Less farty..
Long tubes !!!!!
Wow take care of the z!
For anyone looking for LTH (I know my reply is 3 years later lol) but Fast Intentions are the WORST long tubes you can get. Get PPE Engineering equal-lengths if you want the absolute best headers. Or ISR long tubes for a budget half-equal length option.
I'm not watching 8 minutes of you just washing your car for 2 minutes of actual information I wanted.
Short shift slow shifts for days
Call me stupid if this is. But wouldn't having shorty headers in combination with test pipes be a better comparison to LTH's? Js I feel like the you can get a pair of test for a couple hundred bucks, not getting no LTH's for anything close to that.
Sadly I need cats to pass inspection so I got short tubes
Long tubes sound like a pug trying too breath
Not even a fair comparison. The Test pipes are resonated while the long tube headers are not, so you're comparing oranges and apples :/
Considering how similar they sound, I'm doubtful that non-resonated would sound much different. It's difficult to give a fair comparison at all as you have to use the exact same location, rev the car the same, etc.
test pipes for some reason
so we
them long tubes make it sound foreign af.
Autosuggestion
Long tubes
Test pipes
Headers sound way better, there a bitch to get on a q50 tho
Base model with all that money in it to be a Sport model or Nismo. Why not just get the real thing ? Lol
Base model: 31k
Used Akebono Brakes: $700
Nismo Bumpers + Paint: ~$1500
Used Coilovers: $500
FI Exhaust: ~$3k
Comes out to 36.5k or so, still 5 grand cheaper than the "real thing" and I have an arguably better suspension and exhaust setup depending on what your looking for.
Long Tube Headers sound better!
They’re also a bitch for all Z’s lol
Long tube sounds better
most of the sound changes are due to the muffler
Both were compared using the same muffler.
Both sound like fart cans.