The Deep Ones Are Real - Secret PreHistory of the Ironborn - Song of Ice and Fire - Game of Thrones
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Fish-human hybrids ARE absolutely real in A Song of Ice and Fire. There are several populations of hybrids around the world, including small pockets in Westeors, and at least three prominent characters may be under their psychic influence - Patchface, Damphair, and Euron. Deep Ones cult turns out to be one of the oldest human religions in Westeros, and could once be found all over the continent. Yes, the Nimble Dick dramatic read is here as well.
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"but then dies by axe to the forehead, which is a fatal condition." I love this channel 😆
This is the only ASOIAF channel that not only gives Nimble Dick and his warnings the importance that they deserve, but celebrates Nimble Dick for the legend that he is. RIP
They're gonna eat ya
Ne'er was a Dick so nimble this side of the narrow sea.
Maybe Nimble Dick isn't the hero we needed, but the hero we deserve.
His name was "Nimble Dick" and that alone should be respected!
Nimble Dick shall live forever in our...hearts?
Maze-makers getting steamrollered by squishies sounds like the Minoans getting wiped by the sea people in the bronze age collapse.
When I realized that the bronze age collapse coincided with attacks by mysterious "sea people" I thought about George hearing of that for the first time and imagining them as monsters from the sea. I have to stop thinking about how history relates to ASoIaF all the time.
Why stop? That's what makes this all the more relevant IMHO 😊
No, please don't stop. This was an interesting and astute observation. You are only thinking critically and that is a good thing. We are meant to make connections between the things we read and the real world, history, life, etc. I may never have made that connection,
Never stop, seriously!
that´s great, the pharao fending of the deep ones
Hahah you’re not gonna stawp! You’ll never stop, now!
I can’t stop. I try and i try and it does little and less. But being me right back here
This popped up 20 seconds after being posted - the Deep Ones wanted me to see it 😂
Join the cult
Hahahaha i love it when that happens. Bugs me when something pops up and it's uploaded like hours ago. The entire reason i sub, bell on to certain channels is because i need to see it immediately!
Exactly 😅
THE DEEP ONES SEND ME PSYCHIC MESSAGES OF FISH DUDES KISSING
hahahaha
Careful, that's how they get ya!!!
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@@DavidLightbringerGreat video David. Based on your work I’m now more convinced than ever that Theon Greyjoy is really a Brandon Stark (or possibly even Ned Stark) bastard, obtained somehow by Balon Greyjoy who planned to use him to capture control of the North. Balon in a planned invasion of the North would have revealed that Theon (a Stark name importantly) had Stark blood as a means of obtaining legitimacy (perhaps to deal with the ‘there must always be a Stark in Winterfell’ thing). We’re never given a very good explanation of Balon’s Rebellion but the probable cause was his refusal to return Theon to the Stark’s after the plot was revealed somehow. All of this is apparent in how Theon is treated when he returns home, and how Balon immediately tries to execute his original plan anyway, clearly showing that keeping Theon as a “ward/hostage” never in any way exerted any leverage over Balon simply because he was supposedly Balon’s last male heir. Balon immediately thrust Theon’s life into danger with no regards towards him and tired to use him to capture the North. This also explains why Rob Stark’s wolf was named “Greywind”, it was supposed to be Theon’s, while Rob is almost certainly Petyr Baelish’s son (as revealed in their strange half exchange of question with no answer when we see them together in Kings Landing). Rob’s illegitimately is the true source of Catelyn’s anxiety and hatred towards Jon Snow. Whether Theon is another Ned bastard (I believe Val is Ned’s daughter) or a Brandon Stark bastard remains a mystery to me, but I’m certain it’s one or the other.
Wow!!
Biter being a distant spawn of the Deep ones absolutely blew my mind, the fact that it fits so well in Briennes story while also not being a prevalent or important detail is why I love George’s writing and the theorycraft it inspires me to
me too, i can't believe i never made the connection but at the same time so covert. preston's brienne, gender, and the squishers series was the first time i even really thought about brienne's link to what nimble dick said
I never imagined we'd get any kind of backstory for biter. Its sweet to hear especially cool lore.
I would have to reread, but yes. It would even have narrative meaning.
Chapter 1 - Introduce the concept.
Chapter 2 - Reaffirms the concept.
Chapter 3 - Payoff - Biter.
I think the light magic of ASOIAF is so cool because there are plenty of fantasy books where no one would question this at all because all the of magic is central and obvious, but in ASOIAF the magic is just uncommon enough to lurk in the background and make both the characters and a lot of readers think it’s “just a story”
Moisture is the essence of wetness, and wetness is the essence of beauty.” - Derek Zoolander. Moisture Lotion
thank you, I had forgotten to make a Zoolander joke 🤣🤣
That's why the scientists at Squisher Laboratories worked tirelessly to create a new, innovative formula of Nimble Dick's Moisturizer, so you never have to worry about chafing again and you can put your mind at ease knowing your Dick will always be Nimble.
I think i got the black lung pop! cough-cough-cough.
Mer-Man!! Cough-Cough.... Mer-MAN!!!!
I, for one, welcome the return of our Squisher overlords.
ONE OF US! ONE OF US!
i swear, everyone gives biter every benefit of the doubt, saying things like "he filed his teeth to look like that" besides just believing he is a squisher
This is the next best thing to George actually finishing the series
Your ability to keep digging out new and fascinating connective tissues between these texts is amazing.
it's part of why it takes him so long to write, most other fiction simply isn't layered this deeply
Mmm connective tissues…
There is no next best thing, sick of waiting on that lazy porker.
Nimble Dick never struck me as a man from the Bayou, but now I can't believe anything else
yeah I mean it works so well I do wonder if GRRM thought of it
Here is something horryfing I noticed. Who does Patchaface a mouthpiece for the deep ones spend all his time with. Shireen a young girl and you know what the deep ones do.
yeah it's an odd choice of babysitter
@@DavidLightbringer He even takes her by the hand and ask of her to go under the sea
@@debater452i always thought he knew about her fate(of getting burnt by red woman) and wanted to save her.... maybe I was too optimistic about this story when I know i shouldn't be 😂
It’s heavily implied that “Greyscale” is a disease created by a former avatar of The Drowned God (the disease thrives on the wet and damp, it turns humans into scaly insane creatures, etc) so it makes sense.
"No, Rhaegar. The Matrix isn't real."
Only in your videos would a line like that exist. 😂
And only in LML’s videos do I actually WATCH the add! I love his roommate! Rhaegar is starting to acclimate and enjoy our culture, lol.
@tracymetherell8744 right! LML's ads are the only ones I enjoy and don't immediately fast forward with a grunt of exasperation
Wow, I didn't think Wyman's pies could get MORE disturbing. I was wrong
comment of the day
The reason why children don't survive long in Asshsi is because they are being given to the Deep ones as a sacrifice
The deep ones send their regards.
"These are fun, you're enjoying them, right?"
Every single one.
I've been here for many years (while GoT was still on air) and haven't missed a video, and that includes binging on the back catalogue from before I found the channel.
The argument was so convincing that when an ad came on for Mr Clean I was suspicious. Mr Clean is Bald and very pale. Hmmm?
Yay, a fresh lullaby from David Lightbringer just in time for bed 🎣🛌
Very few channels can claim the sponsored bits are nearly as entertaining as the rest of the content, but you’re chief among them.
Why should we assume House Manderly only became squishers after they settled in the North? They could have already been squishers when they were still living along the river in the Reach. Perhaps being a human-fish hybrid contributed to their exile from that region.
Imagine House Manderly was just close to marry a Targaryen princess a wild one at that. Unfortunately ☹️ she was killed.
@@sophiawilson8696This just shows how cruel jaehaerys and alyssene to their daughters . Manderly was not only very old, his family's fish ancestory wouldn't make him a good looking grandpa either 👀
Just what were they both thinking while marrying their daughter to that squishy grandpa?
@@sophiawilson8696Viserra wasn't the wild one, Sierra was. Viserra was just a vain person who was too much into her beauty, and the fact that she wanted to marry her widowed older brother baelon because she didn't wanted to marry an old guy....this was used as an excuse to give her bad name.
Long time fan, long term cephalopod here: Thank you for breaking down our cover AHEM the Squishers' cover story! Living around the corner, so to speak, from Providence RI, I've been a fan of Lovecraft since before the stars were right...
The stars do certainly seem right for all sorts of strange weird and wild horrors, nowadays... I'll be on the lookout for fish people, snarks and grumkins!
They say there actually are mermaids and mermen. The stories about them are dark af. Almost always murderers. Can we call variants like them human? Can we hold them to our laws?
That Brienne/biter fight was so anxiety producing just reading it. Hearing your inflection and delivery makes the material seriously terrifying to imagine
I love how George sprinkles fantasy throughout his world like this. They’re never explicitly mentioned but there’s so much underlying evidence if you really wanna dig in and speculate. I really appreciate the work you do it really makes me appreciate this world more!
I was at my Dermatologist this week and he was checking me for a squamous cell spot; I growled at him “I’m no damn squisher”.
he didn’t laugh.
It genuinely just keeps getting better and better
Why did they keep Patchface around?
I know that now he makes Shireen happy, but what about before she was born?
Patchface arrived, and was drowned, in 278 AC, but Shireen wasn't born until 289. I find it strange that anyone would want to keep such a broken person around, even as a fool, especially as he is a walking reminder of the deaths of Steffon and Cassana. So why did they?
Great question. In westerosi society, Patchface is a third class citizen in that he's a jester, a foreigner and has the strange effects of his drowning experience. That combination would seemingly be extremely distasteful to any "proper" aristocratic family. You'd think they would have thrown him out or at the very least made him a baker's helper or some out of sight role. Quite a lot of generosity of spirit isn't it?
This is genuinely such a good question. I read ur comment when i started the vid and 40mins in my mind is still 🤔🤔🤔
Some sort of noblesse oblige?
@@LitcheTheArsm Maybe they kept him because Steffon wrote such a glowing review of him in one of his final letters. And Patchface condition is a result of their actions so maybe someone was genuinely being kind to him by letting him stay on. Hard to believe but it's possible
Maestrr Cressen took pity on him and Stannis's wife felt it important to have a fool at court for visiting King Landings nobles
@@ThommyofThennCressen the Maester did so to honor Stefen and because he pities Patchface
Best cereal commercials ever are on this channel.
Frey Pie and Sister stew! Human food hybridisation is a thing! The cannibalism in the story is all over. Biter eats Brienne. When Theon eats the Iron Islands "fish stew" for the first time after he comes back he feel sick... The Pots of Brown in Kings Landing, aka Singers Stew, have people in them. The Children with the "filed teeth" who fights for entertainment. Davos is from Flee Bottom, he loves the "Sister Stew". He is reborn from the sea. He's a Squisher hybrid himself!
Oh shiiit, Davos is from flea bottom? Neat
so much covert and overt cannibalism...the "roast goat" at Harrenhal being a more overt example 🤢
It makes me wonder if Cotter Pike’s description was about a combination of things or just the selkies being opportunistic and having a snack when they tried to flee.
Dick describes the Squishers as "fish belly white," which I assume looks similar to a waterlogged corpse. Cotter is doubtless more familiar with wights than squishers so he might have seen them and assumed they were wights. Gonna look up his background now
@@ThommyofThenn I believe Pike was an Iron Islander though that’s from memory.
Ooops, his last name is spelled PYKE. Cause he's from the Iron Islands. So he very well could have been raised on stories of Squishers eating bad little kids. Maybe he just wrote "dead things in water" to avoid confusion. He didn't want Jon to read his letter and be like "fish men conspiracy from Cotter's childhood? Lol ok bro." Pyke wants to make it clear in no uncertain terms something bad is going down regardless of who exactly it is
@@elijahsnow3119 thank ye. I had to look it up since I was not aware of any of Squishers on my first few read-throughs. He is much more important once you learn the horrifying truth of the Iron Islands
@@ThommyofThenn Honestly this was the only reason on thinking it over that I suspect it was wights. Someone like Pyke might actually know the difference.
All lore aside, the second Nimble Dick started talking about “squishers” I already figured that it meant they are very real and may even play a role in the story. It’s a fantasy series and that means that stories with unique monsters meant to scare children are usually gonna be real (Others, and giants are two in universe examples).
Are you saying that the Dark God and the others are myths or myths?
"theres plenty of fish in the sea" and they took that literally
I love this series on the Iron Born and Deep Ones. It's become one of my favorite parts of ASoIF, and how it weaves in and out the legends across Grrth. Keep up the excellent work!
the second I heard you mention House Drumm my brain went straight to Gandalf reading the account of Moria being invaded by orcs. DRUMMS IN THE DEEP
Let’s get DEEP!!!! Making everyone’s afternoon with this one
An hour long video on The Deep Ones??? Hell yeah man, praise be to Nimble Dick!!
Great point about how the fandom is like the maesters when it comes to squishers. They’ve been built up as much as the others and the dragons just a tad more subtle, and I think it’ll all culminate with Euron’s apotheosis where they really come into the spotlight. Great vid as always 👍
This is incredible! I haven't watched a video from this channel in like 2 years but the quality has gone through the roof!!!
Fantastic work.
i’m at work and saw your ig story and said to my friend i think today’s the day the deep ones video drops (she always is listening along with me when i listen to your videos at work - she asked where cleo was in this video LOL) and when it dropped i screamed and she’s like the video dropped didn’t it?! lol
thank you for another amazing video and getting us through the day! this is one of my favorite series you’ve done!
hahaha thank you for this update ❤️❤️
The drowning ritual being a test for successful hybridization is a great insight!
I love the format of these videos! This one in particular makes me want to see you tackle a video based on The Dornes - according to the lore, due to Valyrian conquest, the vast majority of the Dornes are actually of Rhoynar ancestry!! Not only were the Rhoynar Lovecraftian as well, they were proficient in water magic too which I believe must have helped them out a lot living in the Sands of Westeros. How ironic that they continued to give The Valyrians a hard time even after they changed continents?
I also lovedlovedLOVED the mention of Aeron Greyjoy and the Tullys! Aeron is a literal descendant of the Deep Ones so it’s no surprise that drowning would activate any latent magical abilities lying already dormant inside of him. In comparison, Patchface was a human through and through which is why he had to basically give that up in return for his new abilities as an undead human avatar of the Drowned God. Poor Lord Tully too lol, like he still managed to come out of the tv show alive which really says something! He’s so overlooked, but there’s more to him than meets the eye.
I wanted to finally mention how happily surprised I was as well on your thoroughness, it’s not every day that someone makes sure to clearly distinguish between a human avatar of the Gods of the Deep Ones (Patchface), fishy human hybrids, Basilisks, merfolk (species with literal fish tails), our amphibious brethren (Toads) who def deserve a mention, and descendants of all of the above who might have a genetic inclination towards water-breathing and water magic! Truly a testament to your love of all things C’thulu!!
Mr Lightbringer you have made my afternoon! Keep up the good work of spreading knowledge and provoking thought.
Man your thumbnails always rock! Another interesting beautifully made video, i hope youtube doesn't trouble you with this one
I've been going through watching old videos and streams and I gotta say, watching your hair grow over the last 3 years has been a weirdly amusing cherry on top of this delicious mythical astronomy cake 😅
I haven't cut the long part in about a year and a half!
@@DavidLightbringer it looks good, man!
I'm really not a reader, except for a few, key fantasy series. When I read the part with Brienne, I was at a coffee shop, and I had to go outside to keep reading (my choice) because I kept having real, physical excitement while reading it. Like, gasping and shaking my fist and going "ooooh, man". I've only had reactions like that once or twice, otherwise. I think that's the sign of an excellent writer.
I need to read these books which is bad timing now being a father of 5 young daughters (glad I now live more inland) and have almost no free time anymore. Thank you for doing videos for all these mysteries I have no time to read now.
Also I love those ads you do with Rhaegar. Hilarious! I can't help but think of how ads sounded during the Golden Age of radio when you do them. I sometimes wish I could play the Rhaegar role and install your VPN secretly, :)
I bet youve already considered this but would audiobooks work for you? Listening while commuting and doing chores could be something?
Hoping Rhaegar scores David a sweet Audible promotion! Lol
Five daughters...a lot of weddings in your future...start saving while you have time as the grandcildren will appear soon after!!❤🎉❤🎉😮
All Hail our Squisher Overlords! Great series, thanks LML!
About the Winged Man Hero at the Eyrie region of the Arryn seems to match on the city of Winged Men on fartherst east Essos near Carcossa and the Hidden Inner Sea region.
This video was so good i watched it start to finish. At first i was like nope it's an hour long im just going to hear some of it. But i ended up watching all of it.
and now you have the faith of the Drowned God in you
I laughed too hard at westiiiiide 😂😂😂 Had me throwing gang signs bro 👌👌
About the myth of the Crabb king it could also be a reference to the Nordic myth of Mimir and Oddin in which after Mimir was decapitated Oddin used magic to reanimate his head in order to keep receiving his council, even having Mimir be the one to tell him about how the world would be renewed after Ragnarok.
**nods**
Got home from work to see this.......let's GOOOOOOO I've been waiting for this masterpiece!!!
I've watched this three times already. There was so much fantastic information! 🐡
Comedy bits sprinkles in were on point! I laughed out loud more than once.
Rhaegar's "Mario Kart" and the Others' speech bubbles...OMG😂😂😂
thank you orange tabby!!
Respect for crediting human artists.
just got my garth purple shirt ...loved it and wife now wants one.....keep up great work
nice! I'm hoping mine arrives today
It’s insane how much bigger this series seems to become with every new video essay I see. It’s no wonder GRRM has essentially came to a halt, theres too many threads to even try and resolve in just two books.
He really should have dialed it back on these subplots.
Not to bad mouth the guy, it’s undeniably impressive and he still the best at world building. I just think he needed some more self control.
the best damn fish viking wizardry content on this entire website
Can't you just hear the squishers chanting,
"Come away o human child,
to the waters down below,
for there's more weeping in this world than you can ever know."?
Late at night Nimble Dick he wakes me up he says, don't sleep alone, don't sleep alone! No one ever thought of that joke?
The deep ones are reall???? 🤯😱😱
Find out more on Blackwater daily tonight in the hour of owls.
I love the Manderlys, but I hadn't considered their squisher ancestry. Yeahe, that pie scene hits differently knowing that
Edit: I think the theory that the Squisher King resurrected Patchface after he successfully made the humorless Squisher laugh. That is why he gets "special" treatment
I'm really enjoying your Ironborn and Squisher videos. Im not sure if youve mentioned this yourself or not, but one thing all this Fishman to Ironborn stuff has made me think about is how the Seastone Chair seems to have gone from an altar for ritual sacrifice to a throne, and the Weirwoods seem to have gone from thrones to altars for ritual sacrifice (by Craster at least). More amusing manifestations in the massively messed up morass of magic, maybe.
Dagon Drumm sounds so fascinating. Named after lovecraftian father of the deep ones...Son Of Uragon Drumm.....Family won a Valyrian Steel sword called Red Rain...Captainof Crimson tide...He was a necromancer.....there is so much deep one...symbolism it's insane.
Keep the deep ones content coming! Love how it's all coming together! (Also that black jacket is awesome and I want it)
Congrats on 100k subs David! You deserve it brother, been watching a few years now. Keep prospering!
Whole hour of produced content?! So rad. Thanks so much for all you do! 🙏
Havent visited your channel in a good few years but so good to see your killing it and keeping those esoteric vibes strong. Legend mate, loved the vid.
Excellent video DL. Really ties a few seemingly unrelated things together nicely.
I loove all the narrating voices!
The the Thousand Islands story made me imagine a what if story for Númenor
So we have Ice people hybrids, fairy people hybrids, lizard people hybrids and now water people hybrids.
We have fire wights and ice wights, are the drowned thralls water wights? Do the children of the forest have any forest wights? Maybe the green men?
This video is awesome and this is by far my favorite format. Not a huge stream/collab fan personally but when its just LML's soothing voice, eerie music, and cannabis-fueled insights, I can totally lose myself in the video.
This one was great. Ironborn and Nights Watch are my two favorite factions/houses. I am also a Lovecraft nut so this one was right up my alley. Thanks!
1)you are fantastic i will say it again and again.I just know that one day your channel will blow up.
2)this presentation is amazing.I think you should do something similar for your older azor ahai and the long night videos.I know some people who say they couldnt read your old essays due to how long they were.This presentation wich brakes it into smaller parts with many pictures etc would maybe help
3)i never expected to be intrested in iron born bistory but here we are.I would like to ask you if there could be similar videos about the rest of westeros especially house Dorne or the reach.I mean videos about symbolisms or whatever .(you mentioned something about oldtown and my heart skipped a bit i cant wait to explore that city with you as our guide of course😅).
Every time I hear squishers I think of the drowners from Witcher 3
exceptional production quality homie, definitely subbed and will watch more!
Fantastic as usual! Looking like a very cool kind of wizard if I can say... A grand wizard even!... Wait..
The scripting of that ad-read was smooth as the hair of the mutton-chops that cover Tywin's gills!
Thanks for your work!
Your knowledge is amazing. I loved this video! Actually just sat n watched for the whole hour. Thats rare for a lore video, yet alone an hour long one! Great content!
Glad to see you still plugging away at ASOIAF when many others have moved on.
I miss the order of the greenhand 😭 I’m genuinely so so happy you are still here with us!
He never left!
Its amazing how much content there is if you know where to look. I'm a big fan of a few other channels so i'm not trying to shade them. However, with how well reasoned and researched this channel's videos are, it doesn't feel like grasping at straws. These are solid connections throughout the text. It's a collaborative effort though, the entire community over years has uncovered hints about this stuff piece by piece
i think that the ootg is the 3 eyed raven now.
I’m so happy that this part finally came out. I’ve been waiting on the edge of my seat for it.
Read all the books that are out shortly before discovering Lovecraft. It was crazy to see everything click together when I read Innsmouth
I am so excited for this. Thanks for all the great content LmL!
Im so grateful for your content right now LML trying so hard not to spiral from the state of the world right now, i just gotta pop on your videos and zone out of reality for a few 💚
I've often wondered why Filipino folklore only had male syokoy (squishers) and female mermaids, no Aquaman merlings... male deep ones initiating the hybridization sounds like the "sons of God taking the daughters of men" 😐
Also, water resurrection sounds like baptism in Christianity, and ritual bathing in many religions (the Nile, Ganges, and Jordan Rivers)...
Something fishy! Thanks Dave 😊
The ocean has long been a source of fear and awe in human cultures all over the world
You mentioned Bran the Blessed. Reading the Wikipedia entry for the legend, it contains this: "The name "Brân" in Welsh is usually translated as crow or raven." Hmmm...
Thanks for the series man this was SO interesting, I couldn’t agree more with those theories. I now have a totally different perspective not only on the iron born but on all old marine houses
Good ups. Sometimes things just make sense.
Fish for Dagon. Toad for Tsathoggua. Squid for Cthulhu. Snake for Yig. Lizard for Bokrug.
Fantastic! Thank you again for all your efforts!
Just found the channel. So far I'm really enjoying the deep dive (heh) into the lore. I love the speculation and theory crafting of the history of Westoros. Keep up the good work.
Excellent video David! It was so informative and fun. I really appreciate your creativity. I can see you put a lot of work into this video. Your adds are everything!
Glad i got the notification
A bit late but i got it 💪🏼🤣
Keep up the great work 💯
Great video as always quality continues to elevate and it is very appreciated
I’m so glad the CZcams algorithm did it’s thing and recommended this video to me. I had no idea about your channel but I’m loving it so far! I subscribed immediately 😊
The Deep Ones should have some Magic Spoon®️ instead of eating bad little children.
Been waiting for this Dave. Watching now
Thankyou specifically for NOT doing Idiot clickbait BS. Ive legit started unsubbing from channels that do. Only way the practice will stop is if people don't watch.
SNOW SHOW TRAILER EXPLAINED!!!
yeah I die when I see those
Aaaah, doesn't this 100.000 look magnificent 😍 Congrats 🎉 U deserve all the attention from the fandom. U r the very best ASOIF content creator ❤❤❤ I went through several others before I found u 5 or 6 years ago, and now, I stopped watching the others. Keep going! U r doing great and ur new revelations really amaze me and they make so much sense!!! 👏👏👏
This was an awesome video, just got recommended to me. Subbed! Very detailed and enjoyable to listen to and watch.
great to hear