Why is the Wing Coaster so Popular??
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"You can't theme a dive" cries in Baron1898
Oblivion - The Black Hole too
Or Krake
Or oblivion
How did he forget😢
baron is one of the most themed rides I've been on
I didn't realize they were so popular. I've only been on X-Flight (Gatekeeper was closed when I went) so I assumed there weren't that many yet.
Yeah, honestly blew me away
I Love that you're an enthusiast and feel like I'm a member of a secret club I catch you sprinkling coaster facts into your vids 😎😎🤘🏾🤘🏾😁😁
I've only ever been on Wild Eagle and heard of Gatekeeper so I just thought those were the only two in America
here is another reason: It's a ride that can make a Helix feel forceful. Fenix in the front left seat gives a really strange feeling that "too free to be safe" because you're quite high up in the air with nothing in front of you.
The Helix on Fenix is brutal when it comes to sustained, high positives. I prefer the right outer seat though as it is so low to the ground for such a long time that it makes you nervous that your feet will hit something.
Hmmmm, Gatekeeper has the most pointless helix I've ridden. Right up there with Gemini. I'd take the helix on Shivering Timbers over any steel helix out there.
Dives can be themed. Look at Baron 1898, its just crazy!!
And kind of oblivion black hole at gardaland?
That coaster is the absolute proof that these kind of rides can be themed
@@dawgebredd oblivion the black hole trust me has good theming
Krake is also quite nice with its theming.
To be honest, i think dive coasters were made to be themed.
3:42 “You can kind of theme a dive but it never really works out” Baron 1898: Hello there
Still crazy it’s the only one with a custom lift structure.
I haven’t been to many theme parks at all, but I think I can confidently say this is one of the prettiest coasters even built. The lift structure with the moving cogs, the bell when the train is near the crest, the white women singing down below…
Backseat right side on Gatekeeper has an extremely intense first drop
I gonna have to disagree. I like Gatekeeper a lot more than most enthusiasts, but "extremely intense" is definitely overselling it. It's fun, it's certainly not extreme, even by GP standards.
@@nichtsistkostenlos6565 the rest of the ride isn't too crazy but that first drop in the back row has a quick switch from positive, to negative, to positive G's
"dive coaster's can barely be themed" ever seen Baron 1898 in the efteling?
Gardaland is my home park and I've ridden Raptor like a hundred times. It's not forceful at all, it has some nice floater on the first drop (in the back) and some very nice hangtime on the inversions, but that's not about it. People complain about them being forceless, completely ignoring that they're not meant to crush you with positives or throw you with ejector.
Wing Coasters are all about the experience. That's why I think Raptor is one of the best, because it surely is one of the best themed. I've ridden it a lot of times, and still manages to "scare me" with all the foot choppers and pieces of scenery you almost can touch. It's just a fun and graceful experience, you really feel like you're flying two feets away from the ground, and that's why the GPs love it.
Imo, the problem with the american Wings (in contrast to the european or asian ones) is that they barely have any theming. And Wing Coasters desperately require some theming to be fully appreciated.
I think your forgetting the fact that they are just fun rides, pretty chill, elegant, and sometimes pretty intense, gatekeeper made it to my top 10 because of that, and we lapped it like 20 times because it was a station wait, and for my family who are GP, it was their second favorite ride in the park, behind Steve of corse
i have another reason: the layouts can be very similar to say a floorless but just more spread out and i think the gp like that
Nice to see you commenting here!
I think the wing coasters are Newest Looping models from B&M.
I mean, Why would the parks buy Arrow loopers if there is B&m sitdown(besides of the budget)
And why would they buy B&M sitdown or standups if there is Floorless coasters?
So the wing coasters are likely the newest models for the 'looping coaster' market(partially including the inverted models)- I think that's why its really popular
They can, like make a dive coaster a looping...
Wait, dive coaster is also looping coaster. So here we go, the example long lasting looper model of B&M. Or better yet, we can remove the dive part and just straight up launching it with LSM, and we can called it "B&M Soarer". Like disney Soarin, but not simulator
Honestly wings can pull some good positive Gs. Not too intense like you could find on some Intamins, but still to a similar level as their stronger inverts. The wing seats when combined with rolls or twists can act as lever-arms as well, providing an extra force of positive or negative gs on the rider due to the rotation. Next time you ride one with an inline twist get 2 rides, each on opposite sides of the train, and see how the force on your body changes. I guess that's another reason as well; trying out both sides of the train in addition to the normal front/back comparison. There's 4 ideal seats to try on a wing rather than 1-2 on normal coasters.
Honestly wing coasters are underrated. For both parks with an RMC Topper (ok one isn't fully topper anymore) and a wing coaster I've found both experiences of comparable quality, although something like an RMC I-Box would blow either out of the water.
Wing coasters may not be loved by enthusiasts, but they are some of the coolest coasters out there
Exactly just because it doesn’t give you airtime doesn’t mean it’s not fun
I find it ironic how the only park with a wing coaster that actually loves to theme their rides and goes through great lengths to theme them, put absolutely no effort to theme their wing coaster at all. (cough cough) Dollywood (cough cough)
I think wing coasters are extremely underrated. I’ve only been on Gatekeeper, but it’s in my top 25 coasters.
I just feel like wing coasters are so diverse and you can do any kind of inversion with them and such a so simple design can be so complex and different from every one of them
On the topic of wing coaster near misses, one of my favourite roller coaster marketing campaigns is when Thorpe Park shared a photo before The Swarm opened of dummies returning from going on it with hands and legs missing even though they just took the limbs off themselves lmao
I think wing coasters also just feel unique while riding, a bit like you’re actually flying. They mostly aren brutal G-Force machines, they feel more like an elegant flight with some intense moments.
"You can kinda theme a Dive, but it never really works out"
Baron 1898 wants to speak a word with you.
Wild Eagle has an amazing first drop in the back row
Ik it’s so good
No fenix love 😭😭 it's short sure but it's intense and beautiful
Love to see more from UK parks!! :)
3:42 "you can KINDA theme a dive but it doesnt really work out", Baron 1898: am i a joke to you?
Fact: the first wing coaster was actually built in 2007, in a park in spain named portaventura, its name is furius baco and it uses a hydraulic launch
It is a Wing Coaster but not a B&M Wing Coaster. It’s clearly not built like its B&M counterparts.
They are also on of the few B&Ms that will go far negative. The hang time elements can approach an hit -1 g's. Nothing else does that on a B&M, everything else is pretty much limited to -.7. They are also decently forceful on the postives, getting well into the 4's. While they are graceful and bigger elements, missing that sense of whip, the higher forces than norm make up for it.
"You can kind of theme a dive, but it never really works out". Baron 1898 would like a word.
Whilst I agree that winged coasters are forceful experiences, they're not too intense. This is great for people who can't really deal with the more intense rides, or kids who are looking for their first big coaster. It looks intimidating on the surface but the actual ride is just pure fun.
"The wackier the design, the more popular the coaster" and yet the Arrow/S&S Multidimensional is still one of the rarest non-unique coaster models out there.
Also, you can theme _any_ coaster, it's just a matter of putting the effort into it. Just look at what people have done with virtual versions of these rides. Silvarret has made some absolutely amazing builds in Planet Coaster with absolutely crazy theming.
3:43 this generated alot of comments from dutch/european people talking about baron 1898
Wij Nederlanders willen slechts een hartig woordje spreken met Coastoons.
'You can kinda theme a dive, but it never really works out' BARON 1898 ENTERS THE CHAT
I think you're forgetting that they are super fun and enjoyable. So much so that when I went to Dollywood a few days ago most of my family said that they liked Wild eagle better than Lighting Rod.
I'm actually kind of curious what you mean when you say other rides are hard to theme, because it seems like a lot of these elements (aside from the near miss) would be doable even for other kinds of coasters.
True. Dives often have underground drops. Certain CGI’s can have station flythroughs and Lech Coaster has that corkscrew in the station. Inverted coasters offer feetchoppers.
I think the Wing model just lends itself especially well for near miss elements. And being next to the track grants different ways of executing such elements
Love this video! Wings are one of my favourite models, for all those reasons.
Wing coasters are super fun, and I’d love to see one in Florida! They’re fun crowd pleasers! I absolutely loved Wild Eagle in the front row, especially. So much fun!
"you can kind of theme a dive" Baron: "hold my beer"
They also have a super smooth ride experience. At my home park, the wing coaster is by far the most comfortable. Also the inversions (specifically the zero g roll) are great.
"When was the last time anyone used an Inline Twist on a coaster?"
2021. Beijing Shibaolai Amusement Equipment did it and the Coaster is Mayan Mountain Dragon. It´s a Double Inline Twist. All legit SLC´s with the Standard Layout and most Chinese Knock Offs feature that Element.
''You can kind of theme a dive, but it never really works''
Efteling: Hello
The openness of wing coasters is what does it for me. Haven't ridden many coasters but got to ride Wild Eagle recently and was a bit underwhelmed at first (especially after riding LRod) until I rode it again in the front seat. Looking down while going over the drop and seeing absolutely nothing, no track, no car, was just amazing.
Yeah people hate on the straight drop on wild eagle but I LOVE it especially the vertical loop after
Coastoons: You can barley theme a Dive Coaster
Baron 1898: Am I a joke to you?
All the Dutch people and Efteling enjoyers shot up in their seats when he said that.
0:06 I hate to break it to you, but...
B&M built a total of 32 inverted coasters.
Vekoma built a total of 42 SLCs and 29 SFCs.
That’s more than twice as many as B&M...
B&Ms are universally popular though. Universal Studios (pun not intended) completely got Hulk rebuilt exactly the same as it was; never seen other parks do that with other manufacturers. Old-school Vekomas aren't as universally loved.
Edit: Although can't say B&M has a monopoly though. If that's what you meant, then my bad, and I agree
And more Toyota Priuses have been sold than McLaren P1s...
Great video as always
3:43 uhhh ever heard of the coaster baron 1889 from the efteling in the netherlands, its one of the best themed rides in europe and its a b&m dive coaster. just look up the waiting line and youll see the beauty
No wonder I made it my profile picture…
Cedar Point's Gatekeeper is so underappreciated, by most coaster enthusiasts. That thing is B&M brilliance!
When I first saw B&M’s Wing Coaster model back in late 2011, I was amazed and thought that one day my home park Six Flags Great Adventure would get one.
I still do nowadays, and I believe that a B&M Wing could’ve been a perfect replacement for Great American Scream Machine, and that I feel cheated by getting a relocated Stand-up instead. I really home one day Green Lantern is sent to another Six Flags park and converted into a Floorless, after which, a B&M Wing is built on the spot it currently sits on now.
It’s because for the average guest, it looks so impresive like « omg i’m gonna die »
"You can't theme a dive"
*proceeds to show a dive with a very well themed drop*
*Doesn’t proceed to show the dive with a custom lift structure*
But Oblivion’s insanely long underground section is awesome. I think the overall theming is pretty minimal, though. Especially since the safety instruction videos were removed.
3:42 laughs in Baron1898
I love these rides. The swarm was my favourite coaster for years because of the reasons stated in this video
“You can’t theme a dive coaster” * cries in baron 1898 *
one thing i really loved about about the swarm is that when the train comes into the load zone it has a matching cadence
3:44 Baron 1898 be like: Am i a joke to you?
Good unique layouts
That is very cool
Raptor was the ride that got me into coasters. I was a scared kid and i have went on it and i loved it. I maratnoned it all day after that.
I think one other reason why they are so popular is that they ride not as intense as other models and feel generally more graceful. The GP likes this since they just rode a giant without feeling "funny"
I grinned so hard when I saw GateKeeper. I'm going to Cedar Point for the first time tomorrow.
They’re also so smooth
Awesome video!
Wing Coasters, yep probably X-Men related coasters probably called Storm.
This is where I could say if Disney opens a park in South Korea they will toss in a Wing Coaster either with Ironman or they might call it Storm from X-Men.
1:36 “feels like a head-chopper or arm-chopper or foot-chopper”
Sounds remixable
You can never go wrong with an coastoons video.
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1823, colorized
“They are themed well and have great body choppers”
Meanwhile Wild Eagle with neither of those things…
Don't microwave those spaghetti-o's yet, mom. New coastoons just dropped!
So Gatekeeper is the only wing I've ridden and I felt a bit underwhelmed. But seeing this other theming around the world I feel like it would make it my favourite coaster type. Themed coasters are incredible, it made velocicoaster and hagrids some of my favourite coasters ever because of it.
Wing coasters move so majestically
They are very smooth rides also
If oblivion was never built, cedar fair would never come up with the idea of a dive coaster. Alton towers only did because of their tree line rule and their idea to use a drop into a tunnel. Plus, if valravn was the first dive coaster it would’ve just been an oblivion clone because it was the prototype dive coaster. They wouldn’t build it because as the first ever dive coaster none of the records that it broke would be valid as it was the only one. It’s like marketing falcons flight as the worlds tallest exa coaster even though it’s the only one so technically also the smallest exa coaster
most European parks invest to theme most of their coasters, even b&m
I think the reason the don't have that much theming in other countrys is because they are great filler rides, if that floor less in fiesta Taxes was in Europe, it would be one of the best coasters in that country due to its likely high theming and uniqueness
The two Dutch B&Ms are themed really well.
proud to say under 200, great video!!!
You can kinda theme a dive but it never works out, efteling: laughs in baron 1898
Glad for the uk appreciation
Can’t wait until the day I get to ride one of these.
Wing coasters also hit the gp balance as well as dive's do in my opinion.
The first wing coaster was Furious Baco manufactured by intamin
The forces are definitely notable. Flying through inversions like that while sitting down is really really weird in the best way
Swarm hits hard
im such a uk coaster enthusiast i lose my mind every time swarm comes on screen
5:42
Now I imagine what Coastoons screams like
A video idea you can do can be: top five bucket list countries and why
1:55 I agree i do pull up cp all the time.
Who else was singing armed and dangerous in their head when the video started?
I sang Sonic 3 -s music during the rest of the video :D
FR
Everytime I listen to a song and get into it it always ends up in Coastoons video a week later
B&m flyers in my opinion are easier to theme but still a good point. Simply because flight can be expressed in so many ways like a mystical dragon (tatsu) an extinct pteranodon (pteranodon flyers) space travel even if it is vr (air) and being a superhero with flight powers (various Superman clones)
Coastoons: *the wing coaster is so popular*
Also coastoons: *the wing coaster is super rare*
Wing coasters are just fun.
03:43 look at Baron 1898 at the efteling :)
If Kings Dominion gets a model like Raptor I'll be excited, but if it's similar to an average one I won't care nearly as much.
3:42 ... kinda theme a dive??????? Baron 1898 at Efteling is a realy whel themed dive coaster!!!! If you wanne pay for theming, it turns out awesome
Honestly they are just a fun ride, Although not as intense or long, or fast as others but the model is fun and very re-ridable. I have never gotten off of a winged coaster and said man that was a waste of time. I can think of many coasters where I have said that before but never a winged coaster. This coaster model checks all my boxes for sure.... Enjoyable, smooth (no head banging or uncomfortable transitions, old arrow) easy to marathon, comfortable to ride, and normally has a good setting or theming, at least the near misses.
Only been on Thunderbird & Gatekeeper, but Thunderbird was a lot better and actually really good. That launch was crazy.
Fenix at toverland is also a really good wing.
you dead have the best backing tracks
3:18 age really hit Ross hard, god damn
They can be six flags budget b and m coasters
Gatekeeper usually has one of the shortest waits in the park, really the only lines that are ever shorter are for magnum and rougarou. Just speaking from experience.
Yes
It’s a w to have armed and dangerous as an instrumental for this vid
It annoys me that often just GP love wing coasters and enthusiasts do not. As an enthusiast I have to say that I consider them extremely underrated. Its my 2nd favourite B&M Model (behind the Giga/Hyper), which is because of the various forces and experiences you get on a wing coaster ride. There are positives, floater, hangtime, near misses and in general cool inversions, which I love much more than just get crushed with positives the whole ride (like on most B&M models)
Good morning mr toons