Jonathan Pollard & R. David Bar-Hayim: Prof. Jeremy England's Opposition to Purity of Arms Doctrine

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Komentáře • 61

  • @shlamushaaretz5357
    @shlamushaaretz5357 Před dnem +1

    This is an extremely important and critical discussion that must be promulgated.

  • @christopherlees1134
    @christopherlees1134 Před 3 dny +3

    Good conversation

  • @samfromisrael
    @samfromisrael Před 3 dny +6

    Well, we won't be playing soccer with their heads...

  • @avrumehrlich
    @avrumehrlich Před 3 dny +4

    The sentiments of a flawed morality would prefer the suffering of war refugees caught up in Gaza than aiding their flight to safer neighbouring countries.
    Israeli leaders must secure conquered enemy territory as assets for the people of Israel, its soldiers, victims, settlers, friends and allies who wish to settle in New Gaza or other conquered lands.
    The Israeli military must facilitate the safe corridor for Gaza war refugees escaping over neighbouring borders.
    Not all Gazans supported Hamas. Those who do not must register their support for Israeli victory via a dedicated white flag app and enlist in national service. They may remain to rebuild constitutional Gaza together with pioneers from far and wide.

  • @samfromisrael
    @samfromisrael Před 3 dny +6

    This war is now MESSIANIC

  • @abramizaackaplan6723
    @abramizaackaplan6723 Před 3 dny +3

    I just read it for the first time, and my sense isn’t so much that it’s halachically problematic, per se, but rather that it’s filled with abstractions.
    “he will maintain his humanity even in combat”
    What does this mean?
    “solely to the extent required”
    By what standards?
    “and shall do all he can to avoid harming their lives, body, honor and property.”
    To what extent?
    This last line is probably the most problematic.
    The overall spirit of the document is moralizing clap trap designed to win the hearts and minds of our opponents who can’t be won over. And the fact that the language is so abstract, it can always be twisted into a standard such that Israel’s opponents have broad latitude to argue that we’ve failed to uphold it in any given operation.

  • @shlamushaaretz5357
    @shlamushaaretz5357 Před 2 dny

    Thanks Jonathan for voicing these concepts, it’s important that we are exposed to authentically Jewish concepts and principals.

  • @Clive-hv6tg
    @Clive-hv6tg Před 3 dny +1

    As a long-time Christian Zionist, David and Jonathan are among my absolute favourite commentators on the current situation in the ME. I would like however to leave one comment of my own. Their argument is not really with Biblical Christianity, but instead with Christian Theology which for many centuries has dominated the Church, and has been formed by viewing the Bible (Genesis to Revelation) through a pagan Greek philosophical lens. (Think Origin, Clement and Augustine). Jesus command to e.g. 'turn the other cheek' and 'love your enemies' applies to our inter-personal relationships and NOT our conduct in wartime.

  • @leman234
    @leman234 Před 3 dny

    Thank you. Prayers from Denmark to Israel🙏 Am Israel Chai

  • @lotimol3288
    @lotimol3288 Před 3 dny +7

    Due to the prayers of believers may God do things right for Israel in every aspects 🇮🇱💙🙏

  • @sherylkruger3344
    @sherylkruger3344 Před 3 dny

    Agree. Thank you

  • @samfromisrael
    @samfromisrael Před 3 dny +3

    הרעה תפתח מהצפון

  • @angelameulemans7263

    And Hezbollah just announced that it will fight without rules and without limits? Yet Israel is talking ethics? Wow!

  • @arvewilliams2639
    @arvewilliams2639 Před 3 dny +2

    Sefer Yehoshua Me'am Loez is the best!

  • @innocentodenigbo7284
    @innocentodenigbo7284 Před 3 dny

    Interesting.

  • @savaskayhan8513
    @savaskayhan8513 Před 2 dny

    the promised land from god to the chosen people, why didn't god almighty give us a land where there are mountains water endless steppes where we could live in peace, but instead god gave us a land with desert no water and only war? Why God you who have created the whole universe all the planets galaxies and stars. God almighty why didn't you give us the chosen people a planet of our own that we could live in peace no neighbors just us the chosen people why?

  • @DavidRothschild-tj1ut

    one word for Pollard, 30 for the rabbi.

    • @barbados3592
      @barbados3592 Před 3 dny +1

      Thirty words for the rabbi, no end for the obnoxious Karen.

  • @samfromisrael
    @samfromisrael Před 3 dny +3

    Johnny...
    Be more positive.
    For the troops sake.

    • @barbados3592
      @barbados3592 Před 3 dny

      Sammy, stop telling people what to do. For the troops sake.

    • @samfromisrael
      @samfromisrael Před 3 dny

      @@barbados3592 hey....
      Captain Kirk...
      Take a flying leap into the beam me up machine...and don't tell me what to do..👍

    • @barbados3592
      @barbados3592 Před 3 dny

      @@samfromisrael hey... sammy sam sam.. pull the giant broom out of your ass ... and don't tell me not to tell you to stop telling everyone what to do 🤗

  • @Neshek023
    @Neshek023 Před 3 dny

    I never have seen an army more 'turning the other cheek' then the israelis, by the way.

  • @Neshek023
    @Neshek023 Před 3 dny

    Israel soldiers are worldwide already depicted as merciless, so they better step up the expectations?

  • @joseroshe1059
    @joseroshe1059 Před dnem

    You should not be wearing tefilin while discussing these ideas

  • @NoMouthHammocks
    @NoMouthHammocks Před 3 dny +6

    Jesus was not a gentile.

    • @samfromisrael
      @samfromisrael Před 3 dny +2

      Nope...he was CAESAR'S MESSIAH

    • @NoMouthHammocks
      @NoMouthHammocks Před 3 dny +1

      @@samfromisrael HUH???? no basis for such bs

    • @samfromisrael
      @samfromisrael Před 3 dny

      @@NoMouthHammocks LOL 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
      CAT IS OUTTA DA BAG BABE.... NO GOING BACK IN.... S'UN

    • @samfromisrael
      @samfromisrael Před 3 dny

      @@NoMouthHammocks czcams.com/video/omi6lN5b0Ic/video.html

    • @samfromisrael
      @samfromisrael Před 3 dny

      @@NoMouthHammocks the jeezer is just a cartoon avatar figure
      czcams.com/video/l5_CpiPuK5Y/video.html

  • @mhhd77
    @mhhd77 Před 3 dny

    kristallnacht

  • @emetahava
    @emetahava Před 3 dny +4

    Define "Christian" David. There are Christians who honour Torah and those who do not, and I WILL split hairs. That is a Jewish thing.

    • @NoMouthHammocks
      @NoMouthHammocks Před 3 dny +2

      correct

    • @AsserYarafatso
      @AsserYarafatso Před 3 dny

      xtrianity is idol worship. The Torah specifically says do not follow those that tell you not to follow Torah.

    • @AsserYarafatso
      @AsserYarafatso Před 3 dny

      xtrianity is idol worship. The Torah specifically says do not follow those that tell you not to follow Torah.

    • @samfromisrael
      @samfromisrael Před 3 dny

      The jeBus is outta da bag...
      czcams.com/video/L1MD4jJ6tYs/video.html

    • @GreenCanvasInteriorscape
      @GreenCanvasInteriorscape Před 3 dny

      Terrific username!

  • @pdrsan993
    @pdrsan993 Před 3 dny +1

    Jonathan pollard is a traitor

  • @Daniel-jv1ku
    @Daniel-jv1ku Před 3 dny

    I completely disagree. Purity of arms is very Jewish.

  • @christopherlees1134
    @christopherlees1134 Před 3 dny

    Their understanding of Christianity is facile and superficial.