Taming the BEAST | Don't buy this bike! | 2023 YZ450FX Review
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Watching you ride in real life is a humbling experience, don’t let this man make you think riding a 450 with grace is easy. Crazy skills bro keep it up!
Yamaha kept Tomac from retiring this year! He tested the new 450 and loved it so much that he raced another year!...till this last race anyway but that speaks a lot about a brand
Well star yamaha did.. with factory support.. not the same a production bike off the floor.
@@dormantmenace yeah! But still impressive I think
no. they just paid him EXTRA.
@@vihreelinja4743 if that's how it went down it almost paid off! It's a shame how that ended
We all know Yamahas slogan
“If you ain’t first your last”😂😂😂😂
I had a 2013 yz450f was the same way. It took mapping, an 9oz flywheel weight and a dr-d exhaust. It was geared 14-50 and would pull wheelies in 4th no issues. I loved that bike so much once it was dialed in (and I eventually was fit and strong enough to ride it confidently at race pace.) These bikes punish lazy riding and when you become smooth and ride a gear up and lug it's a dream. This review had me grin ear to ear. Gonna pick one up when I can.
Very impressive riding, filming and editing. Fantastic video.
these review style and tutorial vid are the best ones u make lol been waiting for this
Its great to see you on a yamaha 4 stroke again! Great video and cant wait to see the next one featuring the story of this bike
Nice. Finally switched to a 4 stroke. You became a much better rider then when I first started watching you, really ripping now and got some skills!
Good points made in this video. To anyone who has this bike or is planning on buying one: the abrupt power delivery is the main issue you want to fix. Luckily, an over-abundance of power is a great problem to have. 14-52 or 51 gearing makes the power delivery way more linear and makes each gear much longer. The stock maps are ok but the magic and jl smooth maps are the only ones i would consider using on the stock ecu. An xpr vortex ecu is the ultimate in smooth but strong power delivery (keefers world vet mx map). Once you smoothen the power delivery you can fix the ergos if need be; you don’t have to be so over the front to offset the squat of the rear end when accelerating. Bar mounts in position 2 (back hole flipped forward). This chassis likes your body weight moved rearward, taller bars, bar mount spacers (17-19 450’s had taller mounts) and pegs moved rearward are common trends with these bikes (fastway, raptor or works connection all have offerings). I run a back 10 peg personally. Lastly the fork springs in stock form are too soft if you are fast or ride aggressively. This really is a fantastic platform, no need to be weary. Lastly while i believe the gearing and map changes to be a necessity, any ergonomic change will be personal preference for the rider.
I have 22 and i go back and forth with gearing a lot I like fairly low, but not the lowest accept for our most gnarly rides. I copied a bunch of maps. The most stall resistant one IMO is the "spunky feel with connection" map. I like 12/50 for most technical rides but like 12/52 for the one ride we do that you dont want stalling lol. Ill run 13/51 a lot too sometimes. The mx feeling map will bust the ass end loose almost no matter what you are doing. This bike is very easy to get the front end over obstacles. I did put a hydro magura clutch on it, love it. Gummy tires and tubliss.
I sold my yz 21 450 last year couldn’t get comfy. im a 6,1 250lbs fit /. Super fun to wheelie and lug around the track and just hit jumps - I couldn’t tame her to feel comfy around the track I was seat bouncing everything lol - and a buddy of mine suggested putting bar up in the mounts , pegs lower etc , and then ecu but didn’t …… I am hearing the 23 model is better for taller peeps….. I was either gonna get the 22-23 kx 450 or the new 23 yz …. I don’t race just love hitting jumps and wheelies and bush ! Allot of people are saying go with the kx it’s more cruise and easy to ride ….. but I wanna ride this new yz see what it’s about to … I kinda miss how aggressive it was because I’m heavier it worked well on the track all I’d have to do was just give it pepper before take off and would clear everything haha
I have this I'm 6'2. And I'm wondering what I should do for bar and pegs. The maps are so weak in numbers.. great response though!!
@@avz46 dude I took mine on today as it stalled out in the desert in the middle of nowhere. The maps flood the bike. I agree. They need to handle this bs
@@adamrochester1 I have the fx. Don't get the kx I just jumped on a guys. Not at all close. People don't understand that this bike is adjustable and Yamaha fails I'm the are of maps and support. But I did my research and I love it. It blows away the kx motocross bike and is keeps up in the single track. It's unique
Very well put together video, I liked your well scripted review of the bike and the dealership add plug. I think its a really great marketing partnership for both you and the dealership. You do a very good job of putting together content, your intro was great and big props to whoever is coming out and filming for you they must have some good equipment and filming skills because your footage is excellent. I hope you get to do more bike reviews like because I will watch for sure.
What a phenomenal video. Nice job all around. Thoroughly enjoyed.
Thank you so much!!
I put the G2 throttle tamer on my 2020 and it really smoothed out the throttle roll for the tight tec sections. Love the video legend 🤙
I just got into this hobby, and have a 200 exc, been watching you for quite some time. Your riding has definitely come a very long way. Makes me wanna sell my bikes😂
Good video man..nice riding..entertaining and informative...just like it should be 👍👍
Awesome review. Excited to see which bike you end up with next.
Awesome video! That bike sure seems like a lot to handle but man do you make it look easy.
Great points for teaching riders on what to buy. More bike reviews would be great!
almost tempted me to sell my Hawk 250 and buy one of the spokes on this baby! hehe. Love the bike, great video and now I subbed.
Hey beRad. Me and my Friends and cousins saw you at Pipestone memorial weekend. Thanks for the pictures and it was amazing to finally meet you
Hey Justin!! Great to meet you too. Hope y’all had an awesome time 🤘🏼🤘🏼
I love my 450FX… definitely don’t need anymore power. I’ve never changed the mapping, thought it was good enough.
Bought it back in 17 probably the worst year but it was miles ahead of the other bikes I’ve owned.
Awsome review and yea it's made for an experienced operator in off-road and Enduro. And then we have the others that give a mixed up review on the bike
I bought a 2021 450F a few month ago and I love it. It's definitely tough on the technical stuff though as it's either spinning the wheel or stalling.
I just rode one!!!!!!!! For my first time too honestly it’s so freaking powerful like i barely touch the throttle and bruh it’s whipping the back tire out instantly. If u ride slow and have to do a u-turn u better be holding that clutch Kuz bruh it stalls and is a bitch to get started again unless u totally know what you’re doing I rode in first gear the entire 2 hoursssss! It literally was amazing ima newb!
I'm not a super experienced rider. More intermediate and I love my wr450f but I use mine for trails and bite of a daily, yet 100% agree very glad I started on 125s and 250s
This video hit at the perfect time... I've been considering the possibility of getting a YZ450X some point in the near future. I have over 3 years on a YZ250. I love having the power to lug the bike in any gear. Your video confirmed my suspicion... I think i may need another 3 or more years before I'm even close to ready for this beast!
I own one and with the power tuner you can make it really smooth and gentle
I rode one for my first time bro
I put over 100 hours on my 2016 450fx. It never let me down but man did it eat some back tires. In 2020 I switched to 250fx for the lighter weight. My 250fx is still fast as hell but I must admit I miss the hefty powerband of my 450.
I used a G2 throttle tube to help smooth out the abrupt throttle/power delivery on my WR450F, it works pretty well.
I have the MX version of that bike and can attest to what he said about the suspension needing to be broken-in. Mine felt way better after 3 or 4 hours.
Awesome review and riding! Looks like an awesome bike
Have a 2022. It's a blast. I would say it was very stiff for a number of hrs and I'm still thinking to put lighter fork springs. I'm 165lbs and ride fast on the trails but have never used the last 4 inches of travel. Love Yam reliability and have just pulled the trigger on a 125x for my 15 year old daughter. Just being able to ride either 4 or 2 strokes is a privilege in life, full stop.
Would you look at that. You’ve made it to spam status, Brad! 🎉
Rad vid as always. Keep ‘em coming!
Thank you!!! I have this and I love it I'm from Michigan as well. I live in so cal and I love this bike. Ignition issues and some small stuff. Ya have any maps to share? I loaded one and it was trash. Flooded it. Meant to tune it mellow for hard pack out here. Great riding as well!
love my 21450fx!!! thing is sick, got my suspension set up by speed tech in MI cuz thats where i ride. The power!!! super strong!!! 81 hours and still havent touched the motor, getting close those... GO YAMAHA!!!
Awesome review! I've got the 2022 and @ 260hr the valves are still in spec.. Just got the FMF 4.1 full titanium exhaust that boosted the power even more! Power tuner app is what sold me tho!
I never had any complaints with the stock loaded maps so I never even used the app yet lol. After looking at the numbers in the hard terrain map, I just don’t really see how I’m gonna make it do much better for what I want.
@@BeRAD When I got my bike it had 0 hrs and the stock maps were set with everything at 0. I've tested quite a few maps and they really make a lot of difference. Just when I settled on the Torquey and Hard Terrain maps I got the new exhaust and I will need to modify them for sure!
Thanks!! more videos on this bike please!! I have 22 450fx
Absolutely awesome bike ! I’ve got a 19
And 22 :) from mild to wild depending on the map :)
I've had a 2018 450fx for going on 3 years now its got over 200 hours on it and it's been the best do it all dirtbike I've ever owned absolutely love it even tho it didn't make as much power as my 2010 crf450r
Yea it’s crazy I own a 08 yz450 and a 2019 yz450 and it seems like the older bike hits a little harder than the newer one my 08 is a fucking beast
Ash did the same thing on the 2020 fx. And same results. Best bike all around. My 2020 fx is still the best dirt bike I've had.
Man the shit wrong clip cracked me up. Man you are such a amazing rider. Stay safe brother.
🤣🤣🤣 thank you
There’s something special about how big bore 4 strokes ride
So easy to get used to and so manageable with how planted they are you just learn to drive through every corner and brap over every rock
They tend to over heat and stall easy in hard enduro though
I've got a friend with a 22 who's a upper a class rider and rarely has problems with his on gnarly Colorado singletrack. A simple fan kit and it'd be completely fine.
@@benanderson4639 There's a reason that you almost never see 4-strokes at hard enduro events in Europe where they're more competitive and popular
Just added a fan. You're right they have so much more than most know. Throttle before the climb and just coast uphill. Do it all day
Had a 2019 and that was really an awesome scoot. All that pissed me off was the hotstart set up.
Great video! I wish I could ride a bike this amazing.
amazing trials riding skills bro!
Thank you so much for the review! G-Force is great, that is where I will be buying my bike from. So coming from a Novice/Casual ride who is looking at the WR VS YZ (I am 6'2" @240lbs), I will riding similar areas that you are but less aggressive or intense, and leaning towards the WR for the comfort. Would you go YZ or WR? Thanks
Great review Mr. Rad
Thank you sir!!! Been a minute since I’ve been on one of these fart cannons
Damn dude. You are rippin this thing. All those rock hops and splatter’s-impressive on a 450. 👌👌
This 2023 450 made my 2stroke start sitting an collecting dust. Yes I like it an have no complaints for my style of riding. #I love thump and can be lazy when want which makes my time faster
I need to do more moto-practice days lol. GForce was always good to me on the front range, they should expand to the Western Slope
Great video!
I have a 2019 450fx and I agree it is a very strong bike and it pulls hard. Which is perfect in my wide open and faster sections of the hare and hounds. Or just faster sections in general. What I did to mellow it out for the tighter rock sections I ride in a lot is to set the mild tune that comes with the tuner app from Yamaha when you download it and second I changed my gearing on the rear sprocket to a 48 tooth. This helped make the lower gears a little longer and when you are in the mild tune it really made that bike settle down and much easier to ride and let the rear tire hook up. The bike is really an amazing bike and really makes it easy out in the desert or in the rock areas. The suspension in the stock setup with the lighter guys like myself. I’m 170 lbs myself and what I did was switch out my fork oil from stock which I think is a 5wt and I dropped to a 2.5wt and it worked out perfect. The front end is super smooth and plush.
How much oil did you put it ?
@@elianlopez7121 I can’t remember what the spec is for it off hand. I just filled it with the amount specified in the book.
What do you recommend me 450FX 2023 or WR450F 2022
@@elianlopez7121 they are virtually the same bike for the most part. The we doesn’t have the map accessibility that the fx has and the Wr is tuned down quite a bit but it can be tuned up to be just like the fx check out the team that races the finke race in Australia. The Yamaha team uses the wr and it is quick. It really all comes down to your ability and what you normally ride. If you ride a bunch of fire roads and do trail riding most of the time, the wr would be better. I race the expert class in national hare and hounds and desert racing so I need the extra bark that the fx has.
@@elianlopez7121 the fx would be able to do the fire roads as well, you just have to mess with the different tunes it comes with on the power tuner app. When I am in the real nasty rocky or slower technical sections I switch to the mild map. And the makes it really nice a very manageable.
I put a G2 throttle tamer on mine, made a big difference
I miss my yz450. I once took it to school on the last day. It had been raining all that day. Ended up going down on the way out of the parking lot with all the buses and cars behind me😂
"Torquey" map fixes the abrupt power delivery. Makes it feel more like a trail bike. Suspension is too stiff for avg. woods rider. It deflects. That's why we have suspension tuners.
I could ride that bike up in Eastern woods of Massachusetts, same riding style as me, perfect bike for me loved my 3 kx 500s, that people said couldn't be ridden in woods, they were wrong, also loved my yz 426 I need that bike seriously and show some of these young kids how to manhandle a bike in the woods lol Lonnie
“Hell yeah brother” 🤘🏼
Awesome review
every local hare scramble points board (Louisiana and arkansas) has went from Ktm at the top to Yamaha riders winning. Yamaha has nailed it with the x models
i've got a '17 , it's a lot of bike but a lot of fun once a guy get to grips with the bike.
I Love my 2022. Need to talk about the power tuner app can dumb down the power quite a bit. I'm faster on this bike then any 2stroke I have owned to date. IMO, I love KTM/Husky 2 strokes, but I think for enduro stuff, Yamaha has a better 4 stroke. My old 08 husaberg fe 550 was absolutely legendary though.
I have this exact bike. Its definitely the most fun bike ive ever rode
I have over 200 hours on my 19 450fx.
They are amazing bikes!! So much fun and still ridable in tighter steep terrain
Any rebuild on the top end?
@@dereckrodriguez9688 nope
Were you using the correct tire? Makes a HUGE difference.
Could you tune the bark out of it with the app? I do a lot of sand and desert riding so it won’t be an issue there but when I do hit the singles and hills I’d love to mellow it down as much as possible. How far can you mellow it with the app?
I thought I could rip a 450 pretty well on the trails, then I watch your vids. Make me feel slow😂
Picked up the last available '21 yz450f in June of that year. It's set up for hard enduro and definitely needs to be dialed in for the rider and conditions. When I took delivery of it, the thing was a death trap. Completely unmanageable at slow speeds and first gear was useless. It'd either blow the tire off or stall. Understanding what the bike is doing, and making the changes and adjustments to correct the problems can take some time. I went whole hog on it from multiple directions and changed and adjusted soo many things I lost track. Definitely not advisable for a novice. Seat time is the only way I know to get a bike dialed. There's no such thing as a perfect bike until you build it.
Yeah that's for track
They're the same bike.
Looks good to me. Tomac and Ping love it
I’ve been riding since I was 2 and I’m 16 now. My bike right now is a 22’ 300 xcw with some motor work but I’m looking at getting one of these. I got into dune riding and that’s really all I want to do now so I’m wondering if this would be good or too much for me.
I just bought my husky fe450 from Zach a few weeks ago!
Thanks for the shout out!! Great video!
Yeah dude!! Pumped to ride with you again.
@@BeRAD absolutely !!!
"Don't buy this bike" so theres more for me 😝lol great vid 🤘
My dad has the 99' or the 02' yz450f and I want to ride it so bad!
I think you need to test 250fx soon 🇺🇸
2Smoking for life👌🏻👍🏻🇦🇺
How tall are you? I hear the footpeg to seat ratio is short. I’m 6’2 and worried it’ll feel cramped. Coming off a 450xcf.
I am curious to know what map settings you were riding? Did you change or experiment with different map settings? Also, were you running stock gearing on it?
I only ever have used the stock loaded maps. All the tech stuff was in the hard terrain map. Some of the fast stuff was in the Moto power feel map. Aside from flaming out more easily in the Moto map, I didn’t really notice much difference in how useable the power was between the two in higher speed stuff. Stock gearing. I actually think the gearbox on this thing is a huge strong point. I should have talked about that more lol. But I didn’t wanna just do what every other review of the bike does and talk about tech specs because those don’t mean shit haha.
What about 250fxwill be some testing on that bike too?
The 2023 wrs are pretty much the same bike with lights when you get the competition ECU
The laid back feel is common on the Yamahas and I find they just don't seem to turn as well as other brands.
They do. Tap the rear brake and boom
have always had 2 strokes, wanted to step into a 4, I am grabbing one of these very soon. love the 450fx. I like the ktm 350 xc-f but that bike is not only expensive, is a stalling machine.
Not the ‘23 model 350. It has a few updates that improve that a lot. I’ve been on the fence myself until I saw the ‘23 350xcf.
They need to make a 450 dualsport to compete with honda and the ktm clones wouldn't hurt to have more selection of street legal dirtbikes
Yeah would be nice. I’m thankful to live in a state where I can convert easily. Saves THOUSANDS. And then you don’t have all the BS stuff on the bike to meet emissions and make it legal lol.
@@BeRAD I have been considering doing that here lately but leaning toward the crf450x more so then the other race bikes not sure I will be saving much money that route though
I'd love to test a new 450x and a 250fx or wr back to back. There's a big weight difference between them but I think the 450x would be hard to beat for an all around machine. The x only makes a couple HP more than the fx but the tq down low isn't even comparable.
@@heathcarr1105 yeah I'm leaning toward the 450x because it has a much wider gearbox can do the slow stuff while still being able to cruise at highway speed (if I were to make a dual sport out of it)
I've got a 250x right now. It's a perfect bike riding around with my kids on. It doesn't have a fan and rarely gets over 170 degrees. Most of the time it stays around 140-145. I do wish it had more power tho. I'll probably at least keep it until I see if what I get next will do the slow stuff as good as it does.
got mine still in shipping crate
I've been on a 450 for 10 years now. Does this bike still have the same power of the motocross version or is it mellowed out. I'm getting into woods riding but I still want the thrill of ripping fire roads and passing guys that think they're quads are fast until I'd pass them in a wheelie. Does this bike fit that bill?
It’s unnoticeable different if at all. I rode a 2023 yz450f and can’t say it felt any slower. They’re different for sure with the updated motor but the fx is by no means dumbed down.
Awesome vid and I can completely agree with all this with a 21 I can't imagine the 23s hear they're even better
I think they’re identical 21-23 haha. Thank you!
Really drew me in with the "don't buy this bike"
Mission accomplished
i just got a 2019. does the 2023 have the yamaha tuning app? and the button on the left to toggle between two different modes?
Yes it does have that. I didn’t feel it was really worth talking about. There are plenty of other videos that go into that. Yes, the button is nice and the maps make a difference in the tech stuff. But I don’t think it really makes the bike rideable or unrideable more so either way.
How do you think it would handle for a 6'3" 235lb rider with gear? Would I need to adjust the suspension? I've been looking into getting one because my KLX 300R is getting a little boring. I understand it's a whole different animal, but I'm a pretty good rider and have been on 450s alot, but you got me nervous for sure 😂
I've got a 23 450FX and she is a beast. As for the suspension, I did respring everything as I am a 260lb rider and I couldn't get my race sag to 100-105mm. After bumping up the springs it does feel a bit stiffer but good. Unlike the poster of the video, I actually brought my bars back to the closer spot on the triple clamp as I felt the bars were too far forward initially. I noticed at first I thought the bike was too twitchy but after 5-10 hours on it it's now totally smooth. My 15 year old son and my 13 year old love riding it too. It's a great bike!
@@ErnieScavinckyVideo awesome! I haven't pulled the trigger yet, but it really seems like a good fit for me. What type of springs did you go with?
@@lukef5370 I contacted Racetech and they got me what I needed. Changing the springs is an easy job to do.
My humble opinion i ride a little xc and i ride a klx 300r even is a heavy bike i have a blast i think a 450 is a over kill for the average rider and blame the bike as an excuse of lack of skills by the way this yammy looks sick
I think this bike would be perfect for desert riding
I ride a blaster never rided a dirtbike but ima buy the wr250f
engine sounds so sweet !!! Yamaha one love.
Does it have the air fork this year?
I am looking at a new 2022 YZ450FX and am retired and a average rider that rides in far northeastern Wisconsin woods I ride fire roads and dual track logging roads no single tracks. Would this motorcycle be a good choice for this type of riding? I am 6 foot and165# and don't ride real fast. Or is this bike just too aggressive for this type of riding. Thanks
I think there are much better options for sure. It’s totally uncomfortable to ride mellow on 2 track, it’s so touchy that every bump in the road will blip the throttle enough to jerk you lol. The WR would be a better option. A little more mellow from factory. I’ve enjoyed the newer Ktm 450/500’s too. Buuuut I’d get the WR if I had to pick.
I wish I could Afford one of these 😭😭😭
My friend bought a 450 as a trail bike. And I tried explaining just how terrible that idea is. It’s yet to see any trails. We have nothing but tropical jungle and lots of mud, roots, logs, slick rock and hills.
How is he liking it? Sounds like he needs a 230 air cooled play bike? If he has the money for a new 450fx, maybe a Rekluse auto clutch would help?
I have a '23 Husqvarna TE300, but also bought a KLX230R for a 'work-bike' to putt around prepping trails etc for race WEEKENDS. Also perfect for casually riding around on the property /riding with the kids. Electric start, fuel injected... Love both so far.
Where to get all the enduro parts ??? (radiator & disc brake protector?)
My website! Link is in the description. BeRAD-Products.com
Nice video
Where is the thumbnail taken from? What are the mountains in the background?
Moab Utah. La Salle mountains
i wanna supermoto this bike brah
Effortless and forgiving 2 stroke …. Haha def not a yz250 had 2 of those things made me work but made me better rider to 300exc on the other hand feels more chill what’s the easiest 2 stroke these days husky ?
Yamaha YZ is the best bike to have fun and power in our hands ❤🔥🔥
Ok thks
How is the cable clutch in comparation to KTM hydraulic clutch?
It’s so smooth and light! I’ve had a couple people comment on how it’s lighter than their Ktm hydros. I think it feels about the same pull as a properly functioning one.