No One Builds These Popular Commanders This Way! | Commander Clash S15 E20

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Komentáře • 143

  • @benjiboy1337
    @benjiboy1337 Před 9 měsíci +53

    38:59 thousand IQ play, play spells into the Enforcer and choose NOT to pay the 1, so that you can sacrifice your forests so you can block Chatterfang.

    • @peterhardiman7333
      @peterhardiman7333 Před 9 měsíci +3

      underrated line of play

    • @cokematic
      @cokematic Před 9 měsíci +5

      came for this comment as well

    • @cliftonealy
      @cliftonealy Před 9 měsíci +5

      Yes! It was particularly frustrating that when Seth is finally in a situation when not paying the 1 makes perfect sense, he finally decides to pay the 1!

  • @esimplx
    @esimplx Před 9 měsíci +50

    The best part is that all those cards Seth got off thrasios were revealed! They just didn't look haha

    • @metatron8578
      @metatron8578 Před 9 měsíci +10

      I found this kind of infuriating. Just look at it ffs.

    • @Lucarioguild7
      @Lucarioguild7 Před 9 měsíci

      @@metatron8578 That's more a problem with the MODO meta imo the way it handles open information most of the time isn't very open at all

  • @golgariguy
    @golgariguy Před 9 měsíci +15

    I see that Richard's plan to convince everyone to not run Swords to Plowshares is bearing fruit

  • @brendanpulsford
    @brendanpulsford Před 9 měsíci +150

    Feel like there's a bit of a power disparity between Jodah Legendary Wizards and Atla Palani Elephans lmfao

    • @claudeducharme007
      @claudeducharme007 Před 9 měsíci +7

      Ya before even watching you can tell

    • @Spirited_skiing
      @Spirited_skiing Před 9 měsíci +11

      And then elephants became archenemy immediately lol even with jodah taking extra turns

    • @jo_ken
      @jo_ken Před 9 měsíci +2

      Yeah Jodah just does what Atla does on cast if a Legend rather than needing to tap an egg and then figure out how to crack it.

    • @Spirited_skiing
      @Spirited_skiing Před 9 měsíci +4

      @@jo_kenI mean with Alta you’re polymorphing into big stuff and it creates card advantage by creating its own eggs to polymorph with even if you run out of gas. Atla is still a really good commander to be fair

    • @Sinistra359
      @Sinistra359 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Whoooo caaaares

  • @starmanda88
    @starmanda88 Před 9 měsíci +22

    Do elephants come out of eggs? -Seth as Jessica Simpson 2023

  • @oafkad
    @oafkad Před 9 měsíci +30

    Oh no. Misery isn't on the menu today!

  • @Darchias
    @Darchias Před 9 měsíci +17

    Crim: Now I feel bad!
    Tomer, at the exact same time: *draws Triumph of the Hordes*

  • @MakeVarahHappen
    @MakeVarahHappen Před 9 měsíci +19

    Whenever Tomer makes a joke before doing something cool something goes wrong. This time MTGO bugged out but remember when he literally said "you better not miss" and then made his land do double damage that turn?

  • @VinegarAndSaltedFries
    @VinegarAndSaltedFries Před 9 měsíci +31

    SPOILERS BELOW
    So Seth giving the counters to Richard actually incentivized him to kill two people by overextending and thus tapping out allowing Seth to kill him. Wonderful play by Seth just wonderful.

    • @hellmans_fury490
      @hellmans_fury490 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Very sneaky yes, but I feel like he should've seen through it and tried to make a deal with Tomer that if he killed Seth instead of him, Tomer would give him one more turn to survive. I think Crim was right in advising Richard to try to think of an alternative way to deal with Seth and potentially survive longer

  • @alexandrelima2766
    @alexandrelima2766 Před 9 měsíci +21

    Richard : Why do our games take so long? Also Richard : Refuses to finish off Tomer

  • @bartoffer
    @bartoffer Před 9 měsíci +11

    Politicking isn't really a replacement for interaction, as two cards dominating the game might just go to show. Of course, even wholly unanswered voltron can't compete with solitaire and staples.

  • @xkkhghs
    @xkkhghs Před 9 měsíci +3

    Crim was obviously popping off! We saw every card in his deck XD

  • @bennettpalmer1741
    @bennettpalmer1741 Před 9 měsíci +13

    So since Seth drew the assault formation, he would have gotten it with the One Ring, in addition to a bunch of other cards. The One Ring is always the right pick off a tutor.

    • @JulioDRai
      @JulioDRai Před 9 měsíci

      Except your argument relies on being able to see the future.
      Tutoring for card draw to hope you draw a specif card you could have used to tutor to get will always be a greedy line thats not correct.

    • @bennettpalmer1741
      @bennettpalmer1741 Před 9 měsíci +10

      @@JulioDRai your argument relies on being able to see the future just as much, if not more. What if the card you tutor for ends up not being needed? For example you tutor for assault formation but end up winning with enough infect that it doesn't matter? Or you tutor for assault formation, but get board wiped and have nothing to attack with? If you pick the One Ring, you might not get the exact right card you wanted from the start, that's true, but you will get a large quantity of cards, each of which has the opportunity to turn out to actually be the thing you needed.
      There are going to be a ton of situations where you tutor for assault formation and die to the voltron player because you diidn't have any defensive plays, while the One Ring might coincidentally draw you into the counterspell or removal spell you ended up actually needing.
      Unless you're literally winning on that turn or maybe the next turn, tutoring for one specific card you think you need over just getting a massive quantity of cards from the Ring is a massive gamble.

    • @Lucarioguild7
      @Lucarioguild7 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Even ignoring specific hypotheticals its just almost always objectively correct to get The One Ring

    • @devinmcallister9154
      @devinmcallister9154 Před 4 měsíci

      If an effect is essential to your deck you play multiple instances of it. 5 turns with the one ring = 15 cards as you almost never see it removed due to indestructibility. Assault formation could be easily removed leaving Seth in the same position.
      There’s a very good chance you get another similar effect or another win con in those 15 cards. As we saw with Seth drawing Triumph/Akromas/assault formation. Not to mention likelihood of drawing another tutor/more draw to increase card draw velocity further.
      The fact the Crim repeatedly stated he wouldn’t have countered Assault formation just the one ring proves the point. **IF** you are a good deck builder huge card advantage is always more powerful than a single card.@@JulioDRai

  • @JoshRudis
    @JoshRudis Před 9 měsíci +28

    On this week of "Punt or Bluff?" We're the cool kids now! Will Crim put on his wizard hat and robe or will Seth just anaconda his way to victory? Tune-in to find out!

  • @TheHuktuk
    @TheHuktuk Před 9 měsíci +16

    Ivorything in that Atla deck was eggcellent.

  • @ben_clifford
    @ben_clifford Před 9 měsíci +3

    Tomer telling one dad joke per elephant... earned my like

  • @MonsterCC
    @MonsterCC Před 9 měsíci +4

    Seths face when quotes Sir Mixalot 😂

  • @skykur
    @skykur Před 9 měsíci +9

    Happy that the crew decides Swords to Ploughshares is good again. Welcome to the light

  • @-homerow-
    @-homerow- Před 9 měsíci +1

    3:10 That Sadrix art is amazing! kekai kotaki has a pretty epic mtg portfolio

  • @fernandotanigushi6842
    @fernandotanigushi6842 Před 9 měsíci +5

    TODAY I WANTED MISERY ON THE MENU

  • @mightyone3737
    @mightyone3737 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Seth is thinking about Swords and Path when he should be thinking about all time great Wood Elemental!

  • @etten4536
    @etten4536 Před 9 měsíci

    Loved this episode, the elephant jokes were top notch this week lol

  • @zobeking5647
    @zobeking5647 Před 9 měsíci

    i love that the epic intro with the music just dramatically cuts to the spreadsheet of modo

  • @michaelcollins4534
    @michaelcollins4534 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I don't know how but every single turn cycle Seth forgot about the maze of ith but it was hilarious anyway

  • @AgonalRhythm
    @AgonalRhythm Před 9 měsíci +5

    This game is a massive lesson in hubris all around. Just fantastic - watch til the end!

  • @enmanuelrondon9700
    @enmanuelrondon9700 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Tribute to the world tree is supposed to draw on a creature with 3 power. Maybe banding screwed it up.

  • @Houororoiocoaonoe
    @Houororoiocoaonoe Před 9 měsíci

    The tutor for payoff or card draw discussion feels like the buy packs or singles discussion lol

  • @Metroid23456
    @Metroid23456 Před 9 měsíci

    I'm glad I get to learn new things like how elephant come from eggs

  • @Synced_OW
    @Synced_OW Před 9 měsíci +2

    I was going to be so sad seeing Esika as legendary tribal. I love my Esika legends deck lol

  • @light-chemistry
    @light-chemistry Před 9 měsíci +1

    Last time they did this Tomer built Korvold exactly how you're supposed to build Korvold so I'm curious what he's going to do this time!

  • @thriftypsgr
    @thriftypsgr Před 9 měsíci +1

    Seth there is a new card from Dr.Who that lets you swap creatures power and toughness until end of turn

  • @Emperor1909
    @Emperor1909 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you for the "Forklift" Tomer

  • @Spirited_skiing
    @Spirited_skiing Před 9 měsíci +1

    This is one of my favorite themes! The gameplay was super fun too!

  • @geeknseek
    @geeknseek Před 9 měsíci +1

    Better to see Crim get mana flooded than mana screwed lol

  • @whaleofdarkness
    @whaleofdarkness Před 9 měsíci +1

    Will everyone of you include Hammerheim in every red deck from now on after getting some forestwalk PTSD?

  • @Cookie_Nova
    @Cookie_Nova Před 9 měsíci +3

    I wish squirrels laid eggs...

  • @ElDocBruh
    @ElDocBruh Před 9 měsíci

    For some reason I somehow missed you guys had a CK affiliate code until now 🤦‍♂ Oh well, it's not like I'm not getting cards ever again so it's good to know.

  • @ra2.0yeetedition17
    @ra2.0yeetedition17 Před 9 měsíci

    Deck building idea: every week you do an impromptu ArchEnemy, where each week one person faces three other decks full of mechanics they hate. I.e. Seth v 3 tax decks

  • @silviobaiguini69420
    @silviobaiguini69420 Před 9 měsíci

    I am kinda confused as to why nobody saw Seth's Triumph of the Horde coming. Doesn't Thrasios reveal drawn cards?

  • @pvolt7
    @pvolt7 Před 9 měsíci

    what a finish!

  • @huantian
    @huantian Před 9 měsíci +3

    Seth really pulled the Richard win haha

  • @ElDocBruh
    @ElDocBruh Před 9 měsíci

    I had to pause and math! Tomer had enough mana to Triumph of the Hordes and swing out at Richard, plus Heroic Intervention for any possible Chatterfang response, plus 2 mana for the Ozolith two counters. He was extremely close to one-shotting Richard that turn but those 8 blockers meant he would have only gotten 7 poison. Any extra single creature would have done it but he only had an elephant egg! Either that or baiting Richard into sacrificing some squirrels in response to the Triumph, but that would have been risky.

  • @Beam_on_team
    @Beam_on_team Před 9 měsíci +1

    1:25:00 shadrix is a may ability - not relevant here because giving richard a token doesn't hurt seth, but you CAN decline to use the ability

  • @paulsriscool
    @paulsriscool Před 9 měsíci +1

    Clash on!

  • @andrewtaylor5883
    @andrewtaylor5883 Před 9 měsíci

    This week of 'playing the deck wrong' kinda looks like: 'playing the way it should be played'.
    Richard's deck makes Cfang not look boring as hell and Tomer building the world best defense is fantastic ! ! BIG EGGS

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 Před 9 měsíci

    Seth was just trolling this game 😂

  • @D4rkDesires
    @D4rkDesires Před 9 měsíci +1

    Atla defenders would be a fun weird build aswell

  • @happybrain2674
    @happybrain2674 Před 9 měsíci

    btw you can play jodah with only legendaries from before 1996 and he will still be oppresive
    i would say he could even play mostly creature cards from legends and he would wipe the floor of most tables.

  • @starmanda88
    @starmanda88 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Wow I’m early! Hyped as always!

  • @ODIRGO
    @ODIRGO Před 9 měsíci

    I would've played Rhinos instead of elephants, just to mention the Lisa Simpson meme of " Wait! rhynos don't come from eggs" "What did you just see, Lisa?!"

  • @Snst-404
    @Snst-404 Před 9 měsíci

    Dude it would have been so funny to see Jodah Legends but from the legends block

  • @imaginarymatter
    @imaginarymatter Před 9 měsíci +1

    Even if you're squeamish about paying life for Sylvan Library I think it's a card that will continue to be good. WotC is expanding more into top deck manipulation Commanders like Galea, Kindler of Hope and Sigarda, Font of Blessings and cards in the 99 like Realmwalker and Augur of Autumn. So as a two mana enchantment that can rearrange the top of your library and occasionally serve as an outlet for greed and is solid even in non-cEDH contexts.

    • @MakeVarahHappen
      @MakeVarahHappen Před 9 měsíci +1

      I think still drops it's power from card advantage staple to synergy piece for kinda jank interactions. And it still does it way worse than the colorless scroll rack.

    • @exriel
      @exriel Před 9 měsíci

      @@MakeVarahHappen It's the green Brainstorm. I wouldn't call fetch lands and tutors 'jank', but they are less common on Commander Clash.

    • @MakeVarahHappen
      @MakeVarahHappen Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@exriel Fetchlands are not synergy pieces. They are the best fixing in the format. Tutors are also not the same? Lastly, brainstorm without the draw is Otherworldly Gaze, a 36 cent card no one plays. This is classic "magic player makes a comparison by changing twenty things about a card."

    • @light-chemistry
      @light-chemistry Před 9 měsíci

      I just think there is so much better card draw in green I would never feel the need to play sylvan library in casual.

  • @alexanderandrews6980
    @alexanderandrews6980 Před 9 měsíci

    Just proves the One Ring is a Tutor Trap.

  • @Hatneas
    @Hatneas Před 9 měsíci +18

    About 10 minutes into this weeks episode, im going to bet that Tomers going to win out of nowhere with Terastadon after everyone uses all their stuff to deal with Crim. Also seth is going to draw a lot of cards

  • @DieJG
    @DieJG Před 9 měsíci

    SPOILERS
    "Richard: GUYS, Would you be sad if Seth dies?
    Tomer: No."
    I fucking died laughing at this point, such great friends. GREAT EPISODE!
    From Seth learning the important lessons of paying the 1 and having his cake and eating it too to that end!!!!

  • @psychozen7169
    @psychozen7169 Před 9 měsíci

    Tomer... Really how could you miss the meme elephant dung

  • @hansrudolph8343
    @hansrudolph8343 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Y does no one sacs their forests to elephant tax?! :o

    • @hansrudolph8343
      @hansrudolph8343 Před 9 měsíci

      Imagine Seth winning because of not paying the one. He could have referred to it till the end days while not paying the ones :D

  • @savinobalducci6148
    @savinobalducci6148 Před 9 měsíci

    Is Mithrill Coat actually good? what do you guys think?

    • @devinmcallister9154
      @devinmcallister9154 Před 4 měsíci

      If voltron, busted essential commander everyone wants to remove, extremely expensive commander, commander attack trigger, 99 combo piece protection, & to a degree commander with vigilance to always have an indestructible blocker then yes imo.

  • @RyuPlaneswalker
    @RyuPlaneswalker Před 9 měsíci

    Today we learn that Seth apparently doesn't Run Anguished Unmaking.

  • @felipeguidolin1055
    @felipeguidolin1055 Před 9 měsíci

    CLASH ON!!!!

  • @CalamitousCactus
    @CalamitousCactus Před 9 měsíci

    Is deflecting swat banned on commander clash?

  • @mariofisher6340
    @mariofisher6340 Před 9 měsíci

    I don't have to imagine 3 spelltithe enforcer. was playing against 2 stacks decks i was playing clones the 4th guy scooped there was well over 5 spelltithe enforcers out

  • @Hutch_x
    @Hutch_x Před 9 měsíci

    Everyone could’ve just cast a spell then sacrificed a forest to the Elephant lol
    I’m only half way through the video so idk if they figured this out or not.

  • @Akoustikus
    @Akoustikus Před 9 měsíci

    I was really hoping Seth was playing my Esika/Prismatic Bridge list with Swans of Bryn Argoll as the only creature in the 99, but all 4 decks are super sweet this week.

  • @iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS
    @iNCoMpeTeNtplAyS Před 9 měsíci

    Tomer, everyone knows its rhinos that hatch from eggs

  • @moralessanchezoscarelias6412

    MODO! Let us play with the elephants properly!

  • @hanschristopherson8056
    @hanschristopherson8056 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I feel like there’s no way for jodah not to be completely busted

  • @rquer7913
    @rquer7913 Před 9 měsíci

    Today I gave double strike with a Boros signet to a friend's 9/9 that was dealing damage to my 19-damage left girlfriend... who had a Bitterblossom on the battlefield.
    I'm still laughing while trying to sleep in the couch.

  • @Xinofos
    @Xinofos Před 9 měsíci

    Crim owes us so many clashs on's. XD

  • @julianalvarez4231
    @julianalvarez4231 Před 9 měsíci

    Oh my god it's not 3 hours long

  • @rosinx
    @rosinx Před 9 měsíci

    Crim just refuses the Clash On

  • @Badalight
    @Badalight Před 9 měsíci

    I have no idea what Seth's theme is...

  • @cameton_youtube
    @cameton_youtube Před 9 měsíci

    Squirrel voltron lets goooooo

  • @LazyJukebox
    @LazyJukebox Před 9 měsíci

    wtf? Misery's not on the menu?

  • @Kryptnyt
    @Kryptnyt Před 9 měsíci

    Someone forced Crim to put lands in his decks and he's been upset to draw lands ever since

  • @briancrook9055
    @briancrook9055 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I'm 2/3 through, and waiting to see if tomer realizes that gift on takenos daisho exiles the squirrel, and the suspense is intense

  • @Shimatzu95
    @Shimatzu95 Před 9 měsíci

    ...and my axt
    Chatterfang probably

  • @mikem2808
    @mikem2808 Před 9 měsíci

    Y did no one sacrifice their forests?

  • @metatron8578
    @metatron8578 Před 9 měsíci

    Please read Thrasios guys!

  • @TheEsrix
    @TheEsrix Před 9 měsíci

    I miss them trying desperately to avoid last place so they don't have to say clash on

  • @FightinTheGorlax
    @FightinTheGorlax Před 9 měsíci

    Should have not paid the 1 to the elephant and sacrificed their forests

  • @manshark4099
    @manshark4099 Před 9 měsíci +1

    How did Seth not die to commander damage , Teferi protection stops life totals from changing but you still take commander damage?

    • @1AlasBabylon
      @1AlasBabylon Před 9 měsíci +2

      Unless something pierced protection (I haven't watched the video), he doesn't take damage either.

    • @manshark4099
      @manshark4099 Před 9 měsíci

      @@1AlasBabylon just finished it , won’t spoil it but this does matter. There are a few modo bugs in this game.

    • @DaBoyChinWonder
      @DaBoyChinWonder Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@manshark4099Teferi's protection gives you protection, which means you don't take damage, so no commander damage is dealt.

    • @mitchelldarragh4048
      @mitchelldarragh4048 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Teferi's protection gives you protection from everything and says your life total can't change. So normally if you would take any form of combat damage (normal, infect, commander) it's prevented. However, if you have a 'damage can't be prevented' effect, normal combat damage still won't do anything (since your life total can't change), but commander damage and infect damage will still be dealt and tracked and thus you can die.

    • @abstractsymmetricity
      @abstractsymmetricity Před 9 měsíci

      You don't take any damage when you Teferi's Pro, commander damage included

  • @gzzuss
    @gzzuss Před 9 měsíci

    This game would take literally 20 min on paper 😅

  • @kingfuzzy2
    @kingfuzzy2 Před 9 měsíci

    Hoping for every card to have downsides because that's what I do when I build decks with this vids description.

  • @kurowasanabe
    @kurowasanabe Před 9 měsíci

    Isn't that cute.
    BUT IT'S WRONG!

  • @jester7151
    @jester7151 Před 9 měsíci

    I like this group a lot, but I just can't sit and watch MTGO. I hope to see some paper play.

  • @coco19911028
    @coco19911028 Před 9 měsíci

    Who said new commanders wete broken? These elephants showing joda whos boss

  • @spacesquid4298
    @spacesquid4298 Před 9 měsíci

    I've never seen a more stolen game in my life. What an incredible line

  • @Chpow01
    @Chpow01 Před 9 měsíci

    Let's see, egglaphant tribal, Esika thiccnes, Jodah wizards... vs evasive voltron, kinda getting tired of this series, may just go back to watching against the odds and occasional random interesting sounding streams. People ignore removal, kids gloves Richard and in general skip following themes, well, Tomer tried, but he loses points for not having boars in his deck for some good ol "eggs and bacon".

  • @TapTwoCounterspell
    @TapTwoCounterspell Před 9 měsíci

    Mtgo in 2023 is laughably bad. Get some webcams and spell table already

  • @jfrizzell6645
    @jfrizzell6645 Před 9 měsíci

    Can everyone ask Seth to NOT flick his cards when he is the weekly viewpiont for the video? It is quite distracting from the gameplay and makes it so I can't watch the screen and just listen to what is happening! Thanks!

  • @crss29
    @crss29 Před 9 měsíci

    You guys are really trying to stop me from watching your content.

  • @SLeoPereS
    @SLeoPereS Před 9 měsíci +1

    i just ask 1 thing from seth, can you shuffle your cards in hand a little less.... its kinda annoying

    • @jamesmoore1476
      @jamesmoore1476 Před 9 měsíci

      its not a little annoying, its annoying as hell and I've complained about it on many videos. I HATE his POV.