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I don't have any through axle bikes. I've never ridden a fat bike. Unfortunately I've had this problem before on a GT mountain bike, back in the mid 90's. At the time, I took it to my local bike shop to fix. I now do all my own repairs. I really appreciate all the good repair advice. Most of the local bike shops where I live won't have this part in stock and tell customers "well have to order that". Or tell customers to, "just buy a new wheel". Please keep up the good work. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and the kind words bicyclist! In the 90s, you probably had a Freewheel (I believe that's what they were called) which had a ton of tiny balls that engaged the ratcheting action in the hubs instead of the pawls in this type. I have rebuilt some of those in the past. I'll make a video if I come across a friend's bike or maybe tear down my vintage Cannondale prophet. I believe that it's the only one of my bikes that still has that setup on it.
When I came back from the dust storms at Burning Man, drove through a day of rain, then ignored the bike for the next six months, I had a different problem. My free hub had turned into a “dead hub” and wouldn’t spin in either direction. I didn’t have the right tools to remove the cassette, so I took out the quick release axels, picked out what Playa dust I could, then laid the entire wheel down flat - with the cassette soaking in concentrated vinegar overnight. By morning, it would turn, and crunch a little bit! I exercised it under water to remove the remains of rust, and gave it a good shot of WD-40 to keep it from flash rusting. The Shimano hub looks almost new, and I just need to get some thicker mineral oil inside to replace the WD-40. Nice video - now I’m thinking about doing some maintenance on our other bikes!
Well-described, thanks. Good teacher. Now I may have a use for a 12mm Allen key for bikes! And I did not know that what I called "cogs" (like a Cog Railway) were referred to as "pulse." Note however that at about 4:53 in the vid the caption says, "This is a Left-handed thread. Lefty loosey," while it is actually Righty-loosey as you are indeed doing in the video at that time. Years ago in ignorance, I remember being perplexed when I tried to remove a pedal from the left side of a bike, but at least most pedals are marked with a L or R at the end. Yet you can tell thread direction by looking at them: if it slants to the left is it is standard right-handed thread, and vice-versa.
I didn’t see it on the left handed nuts in the video, but the standard for LH nuts is to have a notch cut across the corners, at a right angle to the axis. The first pace I remember seeing them was on oxygen lines, because you do NOT want to attach those to acetylene tanks!
Thanks for watching Kevin. That video was from a while back. I believe that I captioned it wrong in the video if I remember it correctly by writing "lefty loosey" instead of righty loosey.
Great video, just stumbled across it. I've actually started carrying spare pawls along with me. They are fairly inexpensive and can be swapped out trail side if you have a wreck.
Nice! I have been tinkering around with freehubs for years, and I was unaware that spare pawls could be purchased! Thanks Gordon! Maybe a topic for a future video!
LOL... I had the same accident in the same place! now we now where to find devil. It was 10 miles from my home I had use my legs like rowing to keep moving then I found that its possible to pedal on flat terrains if all gears set to hardest the radial friction was helping me!
Thanks Mike! I will be moving my bike shop soon, so that might be the last one that I film in that setting. I bought the house next to me, and pretty much using most of it for doing video related stuff. It should be a lot more room, and better lighting. That little corner of my basement is dark and cramped, so hard to get good camera angles.
@@themostlymikeshow Couldn't find one. LBS wanted to sell me a cheap wheel but found an Ibis wheelset new take off from a brick and mortar store on eBay. Since then I learned you can buy a DT Swiss 3 pawl repair kit for under $10 bucks. If it works I'll have a second wheelset, might make it single speed.
That's super cool if the DT Swiss works for you. I didn't know that they made repair kits. Let me know if it works please, and that might be a future video. Good luck and happy holidays!
Thanks for the kind words Elvean, and share with your friends and Facebook community! The channel has been growing, but not quickly. I try to improve on every upload, and the newer ones came a long way since this video. My goal in the later ones is to make every second count to get the information out in a shorter video but still keep the same humor that you would expect in my videos. Thanks again for watching and the kind words.
Thank you for making and posting your video. I just had the same thing happen when I went riding last night. At first it was kind of skipping gears and I was thinking that the derailleur wasn't lined up. Then, later in the ride it was doing the same thing your bike was... I was pedaling but not going anywhere... Sigh... Good thing it was mostly down hill back. I didn't know what was going on and then I came across your video. Your video really helped me out! Sucks that it happened to you, but, it's helping people like me out (if that helps)! Thanks again for the vid!
Thanks Michael! I appreciate the comments and kind words! I have been a little behind making new content, and hope to upload a new one this weekend. I'm working towards moving my shop, and the new spot will have much better lighting and room to get better camera angles. It's going to be a little while yet, but if you haven't subscribed, consider subscribing, because the best videos are coming up!
Going through some issues with my Haibike Full FatSix's Evo-Pro rear free hub and your video helped clear up what I was looking at with my own fh. Many thanks! Subscribed.
Yes great video. I’ve noticed grinding from my freehub but only if I’m in the biggest 3 cogs. My hub still works but I wanted to figure out how to change it. I have a sram eagle NX 12 speed, my hub looks like yours. I couldn’t figure out how to take it off :) I will try your way when I get home from work. Thanks for a great video
Nice tutorial, we explained for the lay person, easy and clear to follow. I ride in London, England. I have a Giant Seek 2 Year 2012. Can you do a disk brake video? How to improve stopping, general things to check etc I have replaced pads, sanded the disk brakes, (rotors) but not impressive stopping power. Not bled the system from when a I bought the bike in 2012, as brakes are not spongy
Thanks Sophie! I had made a couple disk brake videos in the past.. One for stopping squealing brakes, and one for replacing pads. If you go to my channel page they should be on there. They are older and not as well produced. I learn something new about making these videos on every upload. I will probably make another better brake video the next time that my brakes need some attention. I appreciate the kind words.
Thanks Zoe! I agree. I have a Santa Cruz Tallboy with a DT Swiss Star Ratchet, and really like it. Although I really should be a 190ish pound rider, the reality is that I am a 212 pound rider, which is rough on a 3 pawl hub. The Star ratchet seems pretty bullet proof. I might do a future video on that. Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much! This helped me get it apart but my freehub was fine - it was the gear inside that I blew teeth out of. Very well described, and for that you get my humble sub
Thanks Mark! I appreciate the subscription. I want to do a video in the future using the socket to remove that inner gear, which I have yet to see done myself.
Thanks for watching Craig! Over the years, I had grown tired of spending tons of money to have shops do things that I knew I was capable of. Usually the parts and tools are comparable to the price that shops charge. I will be making a lot more of these videos showing things that I learned in my experiences. Usually when something breaks on my bike or my friends bikes, I try to make a video of it.
Ha ha! Thanks Bryan. Those fat bikes get lots of mud on them. I my other bike was broke down too, so I wanted to make a video showing this. I was limited on time, but I could have at least hosed it off. It definitely makes them nicer to work on being clean. I am planning a diy bike cleaning station in the spring. Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much for watching and commenting . The credit for that term goes to my friend Bob who is no longer with us. That was the name that he gave to a give me five that you do with your hand behind your back and the palm up. When I was thinking about funny names that popped into my head.
Glad it helped Turbo! Every time I modify anything on my bikes or learn how to do something easier, I will make a video on it and share it with the world! Please consider subscribing if you haven’t already and be the first to hear about them when they go public! Thanks for watching!
Great video. Questions: When you sprayed degreaser down into the hub at 7:30 didn't you just wreck the grease inside the bearing? Shouldn't you clean and grease the bearing? Thanks
Thanks for watching John. That was a pretty mild degreaser, and I didn't leave it in there for long. The bearing has a rubber seal on it, so if any of the degreaser had gotten into the bearing, it wasn't very much. This video was made three years ago, and I haven't had any issues. I would definitely use caution and not flood that area with degreaser, and use one that isn't real strong. Really, it could probably just be wiped out with a rag if there's any fear of damage. It's getting greased again anyway. I hope that this helps.
Hey, thanks for being so meticulous and detailed even for the close ups. i have been thinkiing of chaning my Shimano 3-pawl system to a 36/54T Ratchet like the DT ones without changing the Hub. is this possible and what parts or kit do i need for this ... ? Would appreciate your response.
Hi John, thanks for watching and the kind words. I personally use DT Swiss star ratchet on my Santa Cruz tall boy. In my opinion it is the most bulletproof out of all of the free hub ratchets. I don't know this 100% for sure, but I think to go with that type of free hub, you may have to change your wheel hub to accommodate the star ratchet setup. Another thing that I recommend to people because they are economical to purchase aftermarket parts that are good is to go with the Shimano HG type driver instead of Shimano micro spline, or SRAM SD type drivers. I downgraded mine to a 10-speed sort of like Seth from Berm Peak used to do, but regardless of how many gears, there are many options in 10, 11, and 12 speed cassettes that you can get on Amazon for 50 or 60 bucks instead of spending an arm and a leg for the SRAM or the Shimano micro spine. I have one of those on my Santa Cruz that I paid 48 bucks for 4 years ago and it's still running strong. They may not be as lightweight, but they definitely hold up. Sorry for the long winded response. I hope this helps.
@@themostlymikeshow Wow! thanks for the prompt response and its ok it is detailed. I have a Shimano HG Hub as of now with a 11 speed cassette(just installed it) and may not be at a position to afford a full Hub replacement. Been considering a Conversion Kit(Don't really like the Pawl System) just not sure if they would fit as i saw the internal Gear and got a cautious before i commit. As for the After Market Hubs, would you have one that is ratchet based you can recommend..?
@JohnKatiku I have never really looked into hubs like that. I was always going to learn how to lace spokes, and bought a lot of tools to do it. After I seen what a bike shop charges to lace a wheel, I decided to let them do it if I ever got it done. To this day I have never had a custom wheel built. In my star ratchet Hub on the Santa Cruz tall boy, I tried replacing it with an aftermarket that had more teeth and it stripped on the first ride. The seller accepted the return and I've been running the DT Swiss brand for 4 years. I never get that long out of pawl type hubs. Industry nines are supposed to be really tough with more points of Engagement, but there's other things I'll spend that much money on before I get them. I also heard that the spokes are aluminum and they corrode in climates like we have in Pennsylvania dealing with road salt. It's getting harder and harder to buy new bikes with these older systems with economical parts. The 10-speed Shimano derailers are even economical to buy since I've downgraded from 11 speed. I can usually get them brand new for around 50 bucks for a Shimano XT.
This is just what I was looking for - great video! One question - do you have a video that goes a step further and removes/cleans the bearings after you take the freehub off? I've got a very similar hub, and was looking for videos on how to disassemble and clean it - none of the videos I found (until yours) had the same freewheel, so this was super helpful! I would like to take the bearings out and clean them too though, so if you have any videos on that, that would be awesome.
Thanks for watching Steven! Glad to help. I might have an old one of those hubs (Probably, because I never throw parts out 🙄). If I do, I will try to put a video together on how to remove the bearings, and possibly where to order new ones if needed. It might be a while, because there's a few pressing video projects that I need to do right away, but hopefully I'll be able put something together.
Great video. My HG Freehub has roughly 1.5mm of play in the axial direction. Would this be due to a lack of tightening as shown at the 12min mark of the video? OR is it inside the freehub that is causing the problem.
Hi Mark. Thanks for watching. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure without seeing it. I've had the cartridge bearings break in mine before which caused lots of play, but it actually made the entire cassette rock sort of axially and radially... Plus it made lots of noise. I'm guessing that yours isn't making noise when you ride it, but just a little play? Sorry that I couldn't be of more help on this.
Hi Jamie. Thanks for watching! If you are speaking of the Park Tool WH-1, I believe I purchased it from Amazon. I could provide you a link if you like.
Great vid, thanks 👍. Yet, I have an issue removing my Shimano cassette from the hub, a Mavic freehub ts-2 . I kann unscrew the lock ring with the help of a chainwhip and lock ring tool, but afterwards I can't pull the cassette off the hub. Anything I can do to overcome this? Thanks
Thanks for watching. Is it an "HG" or "XD" driver that your cassette is on? If it's an XD (from SRAM), there might be another step. It's been a while since I had the SRAM one apart.
Thanks so much Diane for watching and the kind words! I spend a lot of time trying to constantly improve the content, but it really makes my day when people tell me that it helped them out or made then laugh. As for a quieter hub, the most quiet that I know of is Onyx. I don't know anyone who has used Onyx, but they are not only silent, but supposedly have infinite engagement. I hope that this helps you. What kind of hub are you running now?
Great Vid Mike! Thank you, I liked your presentation style .I have subscribed and Ill be changing my shimano freehub in the new year. Ill re watch your vid for sure. ( that has very quiet rachet)
Thanks Jase for watching and subscribing as well as the kind words. If you run into any problems when you replace your freehub, feel free to contact me. I try to answer every comment as quickly as possible. Happy holidays!
Hey Mike! Excellent video! Couldn’t find another video out there showing freehub failure on the trail. One of the most important parts of understanding the whole ball of wax. My failure was the smallest cog on the cassette stripping the splines on the freehub! This failure was on a 3 month old bike! An online bike store no less! Any idea what would cause this? Didn’t know anything about freehubs before this failure.
Thanks for pointing that out Michael. I must have written that under force of habit. I wish that they would allow to make corrections on stuff like that without taking the video down, but as far as I know, there is no way to make any changes other than deleting or blurring after the video is uploaded. I will look into it, and at least add the mistake to the description. Thanks!
OMG yes! I love This Old Tony! I have been subscribed to his channel for a few months. I love his style of humor, which is similar to my own. I do a little machining too.
Thanks Tony! That is a Park Tool WH-1 wheel holder. They are a little pricey, but they work well. Here's a link to my video reviewing it. Beware, it was my very first video, so it's not very well produced, lol.
Hey dude great video very helpful. This is my specs Shimano FH-MT200, 9x141mm QR, 32h, Center Lock™ disc Where can i get just the freewheel hub from & how much would it cost? Where did u get yours & how much did you pay? Mine has a little bit of the damage from the previous owner being rough with It i guess so i wouldn't mind replacing it to make sure it doesn't damage my brand new cassette. Thanks.
First off, thanks xDi for the kind words! I will try to hunt some stuff up later tonight, and get back with you on what you will need for those Hub specs. That one that I had was made for a formula brand hub,(that may be what the FH in your part number stands for) and Cannondale had actually put a part number on it, which ordinarily adds to the price. I was lucky enough to find mine as New Old Stock on eBay and got a deal on it. I think it was about 32 bucks if I remember correctly. I would definitely hang on to your old one if you buy new to keep as a serviceable spare.
This is the first time that I watch your video it is simple and easy the way you explain now I have a question for you sir I can upgrade my marlin 5 to a 12 speed?
Thanks Danny for watching and the kind words. If you have the Shimano HG driver, you would probably need to replace it with a compatible driver for a 12 speed cassette, but you would also have to change the derailleur as well as the shifters to get it to work. Does your bike have a Shimano or SRAM drivetrain?
@@themostlymikeshow yes Mike I have shimano seven speed and three gears in the front I and I will try to convert to one by I hope I can do it thank you and make more videos I really enjoy how you explain everything God bless you and merry Christmas 🎄
I have lots of videos in the works. I haven't been doing as much riding with the remodeling of the building for the new bike shop, and the set for the bike maintenance videos, which explains the tool reviews. It will be nice when complete, but I have been working exclusively by myself on the project. Merry Christmas and God bless you as well!
That happened to my 2021 Schwinn Ascension from target right after the receipt expired. Now the bike is in the closet waiting for me to dish out 200$ more dollars to Taiwan and eBay is getting rid of the all the group sets in July. No more bike parts .
Thanks for watching Silent Strength. Sorry to hear about those issues. So on Ebay they used to carry the group set made for your Ascension and they are not anymore? I'm not familiar with those bikes, but I looked it up. What's exactly breaking on your bike? By looking at the pictures, it looks like most of the rear hub components can probably be purchased separately to rebuild, but without actually seeing it and taking it apart, I wouldn't know for sure. They look like a great bike for the price though. Lots of features that you don't normally see in that price point.
@@themostlymikeshow yes it is a very very good bike omg it's thick and nice for the MTB trails , I let some air out of the 2.30 tires and the tires eat the roots of the trees and rocks and curbs , on the trails and the bike fits the right way ,full... I added a riser to the steering tho. The wheel hub and cassette freewheel is older. It don't screw in to the hub, it lays on it and with a locking nut , what broke is where it screws in the threats the hole shaft on the outer side of where the bold screws in to hold the freewheel. So I'll get a (freehub ok the rim already ) I found a 75$ double wall rim same as mine already. The group sets I was looking thru on eBay and a few said they are not bringing them into the usa anymore in July shipping container storage. . I'm going to buy the LT WOO group set off eBay beige there are no more. This bike is worth the upgrades. There no bike comparison to the Schwinn fully aluminum 36 pounds. Mine is 34 pounds now and going for 32 pounds. But man I'm so glad I spend the 400$ on this bike omg.. do you have any bike parts that will help my situation
I'm sorry, but I don't really have a lot of spare parts around, but also, not sure what it would take to fix. I looked up some review videos of the Schwinn Ascension and there's a pretty good CZcams channel that works with Schwinn bikes a lot. It's called "Wolftick Videos". They seem to be really up on Schwinn stuff. I hope that this helps. Tell them that I mentioned their channel to you.
Thanks for watching and the kind words Elaine! By fixed gear, do you mean a single speed (just one cog wheel) with spacers? Also, does the wheel hub have a model number. I'm not real good at this stuff without looking at the actual part, but I can try.
Thanks for watching. I am not sure what you mean. The axle is a through axle. You pull it out to get the wheel off. I would have to take mine apart to see what holds the bearings in there.
Hi just came across your content i thought it was very well articulated for those of us less knowledgable it was easy to follow .My question ,is it possible to change the free hub to a different type ? i have a 2x9 speed trek mtb and i was thinking for my terrain extremely hard up hills i would like a 1x12 i am unsure if i can convert this bike ,i would like to do this myself ! My weakness is my inexperience in knowing what parts to buy etc my local shop is saying i may need a new back wheel that may be true ? i woild like to just ask if i can change the free hub for something more accepting of 12 speed ?thanks
Thanks for watching and the kind words Stephen. That's not a real easy question to answer. If you look at the Hub itself and get the manufactures part numbers from it, then go to their website, they may provide a list of compatible free hubs and the range of cassettes that are compatible. I always preferred Shimano HG free hubs whenever possible being that there are varieties of economical cassettes that work with shimanos HG splines. Converting to 12 speed will involve derailers as well as the shifters themselves. I hope to make a video on how to set up a derailleur from scratch in the near future. If you're familiar with the berm Peak Channel, Seth just did a video a couple weeks ago which it's very helpful for setting up a brand new derailleur and showing what screw adjusts what. They can be frustrating at times even for advanced mechanics. I know this reply hasn't been really helpful, but I hope it steers you in the right direction.
Hi Vincent! Thanks for watching. I'm not familiar with that hub, so I had to look it up for a picture, which I'm sorry to say that I don't have an answer to your question. I'm assuming that this is one of the older styles that has about thirty loose balls inside of it? I saw one on Amazon, and one of the comments said that it is the cure for loud hubs, so I'm guessing that it is the opposite of what you're going for. Why do you want it loud?
Im wondering if the pawls are skipping in my hub. When i stand up to pedal and put Load on the drivetrain it skips. Almost like the chain is falling off and then catches again. 2021 kona lava dome 1 week old
Thanks for watching Jordan. I'm thinking if the bike is that new, it probably isn't an issue with the pawls, especially if you haven’t been riding it hard around punchy steep climbs. A lot times on new bikes the cable tension requires adjustment, usually needing more tensioning. I usually back out the barrel adjuster and keep track of how many clicks, so that if it doesn't improve, or gets worse, you can return it to where you started. Without actually seeing what it's doing, I am kind of guessing at this point. I hope that this helps.
Thanks for watching Snow. I really don't know without actually seeing it. If it goes together the same way as the one I'm showing in the video, it probably would, but you would probably need that spacer. The final dimension has to be the same as what you started with for proper alignment for the back wheel.
Hi Just Joe! That video was from over a year ago, so I had to watch it again and see where you meant. Yes, I had a citrus degreaser called "Big Orange" that I sprayed on it. I just left it on briefly and wiped it out. It's not a very aggressive degreaser oh, so I don't think it got into the bearing at all. It has been well over a year, and several hundred miles later, with no issues. Not sure if it's the preferred method, but it got the gunk out of there. That was one of the Lesser produced earlier videos of mine, so there were mistakes made, like I don't know if you noticed, but I said Lefty Loosey on the part where I talked about a left-handed thread. It should have said righty Loosey. It's no way to go back and edit those mistakes other than to leave them in the description.
Hi Alan. I believe that on one side or the other, there should be a place for a hex (Allen) key. It might be a different size than the one in this video. It's actually pretty hard to see them sometimes. It may be left hand threads. I hope that this helps.
Nope, as you can see in the video, the grease was fine. That hill was super steep, and at the time, I weighed about 220 ish. Putting that much weight on the crank on a hill with a three pawl hub is not a very good combination. The pawls break. Thanks for watching.
I have Polygon Premier 5, purchased just 9 months ago. I had applied Motul lithium based grease one month ago in both the rear wheel hubs from outside. After that it malfunctioned. I am paddling but cycle not moving. Sometimes it will work. Mechanic said that hub needs to be changed. I can’t believe that it broken down in just 9 months. What’s your suggestion ?
Hi Rahul. I am not familiar with Polygon Premier 5,or what hub it has. It sounds to me like the grease might be a little too thick for the hub, causing the engagement points to hang up from the thickness of the grease. Without actually looking at it to see what it is I might recommend getting it flushed out with solvent on the insides and instead of using Grease, I would use a light weight oil to lubricate the points of engagement. I hope that this helps.
Thanks for watching Morris. Yes, it probably would in larger quantities. I arguably didn't use a large amount, and quickly soaked it up to get residual grease out to ensure that there was no more broken pieces of the pawls left in there which could cause further damage. Large amounts of degreser, especially more aggressive degreasers than what I used, would certainly break down the grease in the bearings. The bearings also have a rubber seal designed to keep water and dirt out, but should protect somewhat from the degreasers. I hope that this helps.
My cassette recently stopped spinning freely when coasting. There was a certain point in the wheel's revolution where the cassette would "stick" to the wheel. I suspected something was gummed up inside the freehub body. However, I haven't for the life of me been able to get the darn thing off, even following your video and numerous others. I can get the cassette off and take the axle out without issue, but the free hub body acts as if it's welded on. You pulled yours off by hand; I tried a pair of vice grips and still couldn't get it off. Any ideas what I might be missing?
Hi Aaron. What kind of free hub body does yours have? Is it the same as the one that I used in the video? I'm not sure what could be holding it without seeing a picture of it or the actual piece.
Thanks for watching. Do you know if your bike has cartridge style bearings or cone bearings? Cone bearings are the ones that have two Thin nuts right where they go against the frame that take up the slop in the bearings.
BTW, there are multiple methods of removing the freehub based on brand. For instance I have Winspace (Lun) Carbon Hyper Wheels and the freehub pulls off with a twist and pull. How do I know this? Well I did not have 11T cog aligned properly and I wound up stripping the threads on the female freehub lockring threads so I had to replace it ;-(
I have the DT Swiss star ratchet on my Santa Cruz Tallboy and it comes apart that way with a pull and twist. I really like that design. I was going to to make a video on the upgrade of the Star ratchet to get more points of engagement.
Thank you what causes the hub to get loosen? There is no way to tighten it up which causes my cassette to be loose. The axle is packed with new grease & wheel doesn't move only the cassette.
Sorry about the delay response. I'm not sure what would cause that without seeing what is happening. I'd be curious to see what you find out, or found out on that.
@@themostlymikeshow I researched & found out that Calvin from the ParkTool video that a little play in the freehub is normal. My problem wasn't the cassette just the proper adjustment lubrication of the axle.
Hey Aldwin! Mine are aluminum. I do get a lot of cog bite in it, but I just file off the rough edges when it gets bad and it doesn't seem to hurt anything. There may be some other brands of freehubs out there that are made of a better grade of aluminum, but I haven't tried them. What kind of problems are you having?
My freehub has lots of cog bites and its started to sound scary everytime i pedal i already replace the pawls of the hubs and the spring at first its okay but 1 week after it sound the same sound again everytime i pedal
I have never experienced it that bad before. Is your freehub body pretty old? My other bike is making a "mystery sound" at different times when I am pedaling up a really steep hill or riding a wheelie. I am suspecting that it is coming from that area. It's a Shimano freehub body, but instead of the pawls, it has the DT Swiss star ratchet. I'll have to tear it apart and maybe make a video about cog bite if that's the case.
Hi Mike, my current fat tyre size is 26 x 4.0.. and the stock GroupSet Shimano Tourney 10 speed is ready for replacement to 12speed type. In order to replace to 12speed either Shimano or SRAM, do I need to replace the Wheel set (wheel rim, hub & spokes) or just the hub itself??
Hi Mohamad, if your freehub is compatible with your wheel hub, you can just use a freehub that is set up for 11 or 12 speed cassette. Yours might be good for that, but I wouldn't know for sure. Keep in mind though, that you'll have to change out the shifter and derailleur as well. If the big cog on the new cassette is over 42 tooth, depending on your derailleur cage being short, medium, or long cage, you might need to install a "goat link". I might make a future video on goat links. I had to install on on my Santa Cruz Tallboy. I hope that this helps.
Hi Jackie! I have never had any issues, but great question. I would think that the seal should keep most if not all of the solvent out of the actual bearings. I go relatively sparingly when I do clean this. Thanks for watching!
I am going into the 3rd week waiting for a delivery for a Shimano free hub for my 2020 Specialized Turbo Levo . They say in it shipping but can't say when it will arrive . Summer flying by and I can't ride. The number on mine is fh-mt510-b . Would any of the other models be compatible ?
Hi Alan. I hunted around, and they seem kind of tough to locate. I will keep looking, but I did find this one. Not sure how much delay would be from overseas, but you might be able to rush the order. Here's the link : www.xxcycle.com/shimano-freehub-y3td98040,,en.php
Only if the four pawl freehub is compatible with that internal gear ring in your hub. You would need to research the number of your hub to if there's one available for your model. I hope that this helps.
I’m a year late but I have a question, I have a nukeproof neutron wheelset, and I’m thinking of doing a 6 pawl freehub conversion, would I be able to put a nukeproof horizon freehub on my nukeproof neutron hub? The mounting points look exactly the same
Thanks for watching Dominica. I wish that I had the answer for you. I could dig around and maybe get back. I have a Nukeproof Scout, but I haven't taken it apart that far to see what parts are in there.
I'm sorry, Nikolaus, but I'm not sure. As long as the freehub is compatible with your wheel hub, there may be an upgrade option available, as long as it fits your cassette. Most of the older Shimano hubs look like the one in this video on the exterior. The interior where it mates to the wheel hub is the important part. Do your hubs have a brand name and model number in the middle?
@@MccrackenN I looked up the number that you gave me. I haven't found any information about what's inside that freehub. Do you know what year that it was from? It almost looks like the older freewheel body that engages with steel balls instead of having 3 or 6 pawls. You may need to check with Shimano to see if there's anything available for upgrading. I'm not familiar with those.
Hi Dal, I haven't really noticed much, except maybe an occasional skip, but that could also come from the derailleur being out. Most of the time mine just failed, but one time I was able to ride the rest of the weekend. When it did that, it was sticking and when I would coast, it would lightly engage the chain, so if I took my feet off the pedals, it would spin the crank. When it did that, if I tried to pedal backwards while coasting, the chain would come off. I hope that this helps.
@@themostlymikeshow when my freehub is on the turbo trainer i can pull it straight off. I'm guessing this shouldn't be the case? There is a nut that keeps it in place, but doesn't the freehub click into the hub body?
There's only one scenario that I can think of...is it by chance a DT Swiss Star Ratchet hub? They pull straight off, cassette and all, and have a quarter sized splined star Ratchet in place of the pawls.
Hi Sam. I actually did the exact opposite in this video and went from XD to Shimano HG. You can get the XD driver body, but you also need to order both end caps to make the spacing correct. I used the XD end caps on mine, but I had to make a 3mm spacer to give the correct overall width. I am at work while I am writing this, but I believe that the name of the place that I ordered the parts from was www.amaincycling.com I will try to check when I get home to verify that it was the place that I ordered the stuff from. Those parts are pretty hard to find. I hope that this helps! Thanks for watching!
Sorry that I didn't get back with a reply on this sooner guys. I'm also sorry that I really don't really know the answer. It definitely looks similar from the pictures that I looked at. I had a tough time at first trying to figure out what I needed for my hub, and then doing the conversion to the Shimano setup added to the frustration. It would be an expensive gamble to try one. My Santa Cruz Tallboy has a DT Swiss hub, but it's star ratchet drive, not 3 pawl.
Really need to wash the bike or at least the parts around the area you are going to be working. Getting grit inside the hub when you take it all apart is a good way to wear it out fast. Also you do not want to spray degreaser into the hub and let it pool on top of that bearing, don't want any of that to get past the seal, just spray the degreaser on the rag and wipe it out
@@themostlymikeshow Great video! you can get away with it for like a tire change, but anytime you are messing around with sealed / greased parts with bearings etc. want to have any loose dirt/dust out of the area, same with workspace
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CZcams is son UNFAIR, one of the best videos about bikes I've seen, and I've seen hundreds
Thanks for watching and the kind words!
I don't have any through axle bikes. I've never ridden a fat bike. Unfortunately I've had this problem before on a GT mountain bike, back in the mid 90's. At the time, I took it to my local bike shop to fix. I now do all my own repairs. I really appreciate all the good repair advice. Most of the local bike shops where I live won't have this part in stock and tell customers "well have to order that". Or tell customers to, "just buy a new wheel". Please keep up the good work. Thanks.
Thanks for watching and the kind words bicyclist! In the 90s, you probably had a Freewheel (I believe that's what they were called) which had a ton of tiny balls that engaged the ratcheting action in the hubs instead of the pawls in this type. I have rebuilt some of those in the past. I'll make a video if I come across a friend's bike or maybe tear down my vintage Cannondale prophet. I believe that it's the only one of my bikes that still has that setup on it.
This was really helpful. All the other videos I've seen gloss over the removal process. This is exactly what I was looking for. Well done.
Thanks Tom. I'm glad to help and get positive feedback. Many more like this to come.
When I came back from the dust storms at Burning Man, drove through a day of rain, then ignored the bike for the next six months, I had a different problem. My free hub had turned into a “dead hub” and wouldn’t spin in either direction. I didn’t have the right tools to remove the cassette, so I took out the quick release axels, picked out what Playa dust I could, then laid the entire wheel down flat - with the cassette soaking in concentrated vinegar overnight. By morning, it would turn, and crunch a little bit! I exercised it under water to remove the remains of rust, and gave it a good shot of WD-40 to keep it from flash rusting. The Shimano hub looks almost new, and I just need to get some thicker mineral oil inside to replace the WD-40.
Nice video - now I’m thinking about doing some maintenance on our other bikes!
Thanks Kevin. That dust can get like concrete when it mixes up with the lubricants and dries up...especially after long periods of time.
I've watched many videos about this. Yours is the best by far. You show many details that others don't mention. You seem to cover everything.
Well-described, thanks. Good teacher. Now I may have a use for a 12mm Allen key for bikes! And I did not know that what I called "cogs" (like a Cog Railway) were referred to as "pulse." Note however that at about 4:53 in the vid the caption says, "This is a Left-handed thread. Lefty loosey," while it is actually Righty-loosey as you are indeed doing in the video at that time. Years ago in ignorance, I remember being perplexed when I tried to remove a pedal from the left side of a bike, but at least most pedals are marked with a L or R at the end. Yet you can tell thread direction by looking at them: if it slants to the left is it is standard right-handed thread, and vice-versa.
I didn’t see it on the left handed nuts in the video, but the standard for LH nuts is to have a notch cut across the corners, at a right angle to the axis. The first pace I remember seeing them was on oxygen lines, because you do NOT want to attach those to acetylene tanks!
Thanks for watching Kevin. That video was from a while back. I believe that I captioned it wrong in the video if I remember it correctly by writing "lefty loosey" instead of righty loosey.
Great video, just stumbled across it. I've actually started carrying spare pawls along with me. They are fairly inexpensive and can be swapped out trail side if you have a wreck.
Nice! I have been tinkering around with freehubs for years, and I was unaware that spare pawls could be purchased! Thanks Gordon! Maybe a topic for a future video!
LOL... I had the same accident in the same place! now we now where to find devil. It was 10 miles from my home I had use my legs like rowing to keep moving then I found that its possible to pedal on flat terrains if all gears set to hardest the radial friction was helping me!
Ha ha! That's for sure Lies. Gov! We do what we have to to get home the easiest. Improvise, adapt, overcome!
That was great Mike. I always enjoy seeing stuff taken apart and put back together.
Thanks Mike! I will be moving my bike shop soon, so that might be the last one that I film in that setting. I bought the house next to me, and pretty much using most of it for doing video related stuff. It should be a lot more room, and better lighting. That little corner of my basement is dark and cramped, so hard to get good camera angles.
Solid DIY video. This happened to me tonight going for a night ride. Now the biggest problem will be finding a FH-521 FreeHub body.
Thanks Larry. Sorry for the late response. Were you able to find one?
@@themostlymikeshow Couldn't find one. LBS wanted to sell me a cheap wheel but found an Ibis wheelset new take off from a brick and mortar store on eBay. Since then I learned you can buy a DT Swiss 3 pawl repair kit for under $10 bucks. If it works I'll have a second wheelset, might make it single speed.
That's super cool if the DT Swiss works for you. I didn't know that they made repair kits. Let me know if it works please, and that might be a future video. Good luck and happy holidays!
Unreal video that, clearest explanation of the back wheel workings I have seen..... and I have seen a few🙈👌
Glad that you enjoyed D. Thanks for watching!
This channel is underrated. You deserve more subscribers. This helped me a lot understanding more about hubs. Keep it up. 👍
Thanks for the kind words Elvean, and share with your friends and Facebook community! The channel has been growing, but not quickly. I try to improve on every upload, and the newer ones came a long way since this video. My goal in the later ones is to make every second count to get the information out in a shorter video but still keep the same humor that you would expect in my videos. Thanks again for watching and the kind words.
Thank you for making and posting your video. I just had the same thing happen when I went riding last night. At first it was kind of skipping gears and I was thinking that the derailleur wasn't lined up. Then, later in the ride it was doing the same thing your bike was... I was pedaling but not going anywhere... Sigh... Good thing it was mostly down hill back. I didn't know what was going on and then I came across your video. Your video really helped me out! Sucks that it happened to you, but, it's helping people like me out (if that helps)! Thanks again for the vid!
Thanks for watching and sharing your experience Ray. I'm glad that the video helped you out.
I took your guardian devil on my ride last night. Of course the day I watch your video my free hubs goes bad but at least I have a reference video .
Cool! If you need any clarification, let me know! Thanks for watching!
Unbelievable post...so detailed. Better then Park tool videos...sorry Parktool but this guys amazing! Thanks
Thanks Michael! I appreciate the comments and kind words! I have been a little behind making new content, and hope to upload a new one this weekend. I'm working towards moving my shop, and the new spot will have much better lighting and room to get better camera angles. It's going to be a little while yet, but if you haven't subscribed, consider subscribing, because the best videos are coming up!
Going through some issues with my Haibike Full FatSix's Evo-Pro rear free hub and your video helped clear up what I was looking at with my own fh. Many thanks! Subscribed.
Thanks for watching and the kind words Michael! Glad it helped!
Great job explaining everything! Thanks
No problem! Thank you for watching and the positive feedback.
Thank you! This was one of the very few videos which are actually helpful for this procedure.
Thanks Finroddd! Glad to help! I try to make all of my videos as thorough and clear on the camera angles as I can. Many more on the way!
Yes great video. I’ve noticed grinding from my freehub but only if I’m in the biggest 3 cogs. My hub still works but I wanted to figure out how to change it.
I have a sram eagle NX 12 speed, my hub looks like yours. I couldn’t figure out how to take it off :) I will try your way when I get home from work. Thanks for a great video
Thanks for watching Grudzien. I hope that it works for you.
Nice tutorial, we explained for the lay person, easy and clear to follow.
I ride in London, England. I have a Giant Seek 2 Year 2012.
Can you do a disk brake video?
How to improve stopping, general things to check etc
I have replaced pads, sanded the disk brakes, (rotors) but not impressive stopping power. Not bled the system from when a I bought the bike in 2012, as brakes are not spongy
Thanks Sophie! I had made a couple disk brake videos in the past.. One for stopping squealing brakes, and one for replacing pads. If you go to my channel page they should be on there. They are older and not as well produced. I learn something new about making these videos on every upload. I will probably make another better brake video the next time that my brakes need some attention. I appreciate the kind words.
Sad to see that fh only have 3pawls for a fatbike. Very clear instructions.
Thanks Zoe! I agree. I have a Santa Cruz Tallboy with a DT Swiss Star Ratchet, and really like it. Although I really should be a 190ish pound rider, the reality is that I am a 212 pound rider, which is rough on a 3 pawl hub. The Star ratchet seems pretty bullet proof. I might do a future video on that. Thanks for watching!
I have a friend called Paul.. lol.. anyway thanks for the close ups on the parts especially the end caps and how to remove them....
No problem Jo! Thanks for watching and commenting. That helps the video do well.
Thanks so much! This helped me get it apart but my freehub was fine - it was the gear inside that I blew teeth out of. Very well described, and for that you get my humble sub
Thanks Mark! I appreciate the subscription. I want to do a video in the future using the socket to remove that inner gear, which I have yet to see done myself.
@@themostlymikeshow looking forward to this. if its there would you mind sharing the link here..?
Nice and informative video. I've learned that there's one more job that I can do myself if required rather that relying on the shop.
Thanks for watching Craig! Over the years, I had grown tired of spending tons of money to have shops do things that I knew I was capable of. Usually the parts and tools are comparable to the price that shops charge. I will be making a lot more of these videos showing things that I learned in my experiences. Usually when something breaks on my bike or my friends bikes, I try to make a video of it.
ROFL I completely forgot about scootering a bike until I saw this. Did it many times as a kid when we’d get flats in the hills.
Ha ha! Thanks for watching. I had no idea that it was called scootering... Thought that I invented something new! 🤷
Cool vid. Wouldn't get degreaser in the hub bearings however. They need the lube they got in there.
Thanks for watching Bart.
Good video!
My ocd was killing me when you didn’t wash your bike before working on it!
Ha ha! Thanks Bryan. Those fat bikes get lots of mud on them. I my other bike was broke down too, so I wanted to make a video showing this. I was limited on time, but I could have at least hosed it off. It definitely makes them nicer to work on being clean. I am planning a diy bike cleaning station in the spring. Thanks for watching!
Thanks For this video sir Now i have Idea how to fix my Bike Hubs
Glad to help!
liked for "inverted radial smoothie" !!! LOL
Thanks so much for watching and commenting . The credit for that term goes to my friend Bob who is no longer with us. That was the name that he gave to a give me five that you do with your hand behind your back and the palm up. When I was thinking about funny names that popped into my head.
Super helpful video. I actually have an XD cassette on my Farley and I agree with every single thing you said, not the best design. Cheers!
Glad it helped Turbo! Every time I modify anything on my bikes or learn how to do something easier, I will make a video on it and share it with the world! Please consider subscribing if you haven’t already and be the first to hear about them when they go public! Thanks for watching!
Great video. Questions: When you sprayed degreaser down into the hub at 7:30 didn't you just wreck the grease inside the bearing? Shouldn't you clean and grease the bearing? Thanks
Thanks for watching John. That was a pretty mild degreaser, and I didn't leave it in there for long. The bearing has a rubber seal on it, so if any of the degreaser had gotten into the bearing, it wasn't very much. This video was made three years ago, and I haven't had any issues. I would definitely use caution and not flood that area with degreaser, and use one that isn't real strong. Really, it could probably just be wiped out with a rag if there's any fear of damage. It's getting greased again anyway. I hope that this helps.
thanks for sharing. now i know what todo when i have that issue. have a fun&safe mtnbiking rides.
Thanks John! I will be doing more how to videos on this stuff in the future, as things break on my bikes.
This has been a great source of info. Thank you very much!
Thank you so much for watching and taking the time to comment Martyn. I'm glad it helped.
I hope that i can complete Tools for fixing my Bike Nice Video Daddy Mike
Thank you for this. Seriously helped me out!
Thanks for watching and the kind words Andrew! Glad to hear that it helped you out!
Cable ties around spokes eouid have got you back
Thanks nunny! That's a great idea! That would work. I always carry them in my pack, but never thought of using them like that.
Hey, thanks for being so meticulous and detailed even for the close ups. i have been thinkiing of chaning my Shimano 3-pawl system to a 36/54T Ratchet like the DT ones without changing the Hub. is this possible and what parts or kit do i need for this ... ?
Would appreciate your response.
Hi John, thanks for watching and the kind words. I personally use DT Swiss star ratchet on my Santa Cruz tall boy. In my opinion it is the most bulletproof out of all of the free hub ratchets. I don't know this 100% for sure, but I think to go with that type of free hub, you may have to change your wheel hub to accommodate the star ratchet setup.
Another thing that I recommend to people because they are economical to purchase aftermarket parts that are good is to go with the Shimano HG type driver instead of Shimano micro spline, or SRAM SD type drivers. I downgraded mine to a 10-speed sort of like Seth from Berm Peak used to do, but regardless of how many gears, there are many options in 10, 11, and 12 speed cassettes that you can get on Amazon for 50 or 60 bucks instead of spending an arm and a leg for the SRAM or the Shimano micro spine. I have one of those on my Santa Cruz that I paid 48 bucks for 4 years ago and it's still running strong. They may not be as lightweight, but they definitely hold up. Sorry for the long winded response. I hope this helps.
@@themostlymikeshow Wow! thanks for the prompt response and its ok it is detailed. I have a Shimano HG Hub as of now with a 11 speed cassette(just installed it) and may not be at a position to afford a full Hub replacement.
Been considering a Conversion Kit(Don't really like the Pawl System) just not sure if they would fit as i saw the internal Gear and got a cautious before i commit.
As for the After Market Hubs, would you have one that is ratchet based you can recommend..?
@JohnKatiku I have never really looked into hubs like that. I was always going to learn how to lace spokes, and bought a lot of tools to do it. After I seen what a bike shop charges to lace a wheel, I decided to let them do it if I ever got it done. To this day I have never had a custom wheel built. In my star ratchet Hub on the Santa Cruz tall boy, I tried replacing it with an aftermarket that had more teeth and it stripped on the first ride. The seller accepted the return and I've been running the DT Swiss brand for 4 years. I never get that long out of pawl type hubs. Industry nines are supposed to be really tough with more points of Engagement, but there's other things I'll spend that much money on before I get them. I also heard that the spokes are aluminum and they corrode in climates like we have in Pennsylvania dealing with road salt. It's getting harder and harder to buy new bikes with these older systems with economical parts. The 10-speed Shimano derailers are even economical to buy since I've downgraded from 11 speed. I can usually get them brand new for around 50 bucks for a Shimano XT.
What fits in the Maxzone Agresor freehub newbie question.. Because the pawls install is broke.. Thank you badly needed
Not sure. Maxxis Agressor is a tire brand and model. What brand of hub do you have? It should say on the inside.
This is just what I was looking for - great video! One question - do you have a video that goes a step further and removes/cleans the bearings after you take the freehub off? I've got a very similar hub, and was looking for videos on how to disassemble and clean it - none of the videos I found (until yours) had the same freewheel, so this was super helpful! I would like to take the bearings out and clean them too though, so if you have any videos on that, that would be awesome.
Thanks for watching Steven! Glad to help. I might have an old one of those hubs (Probably, because I never throw parts out 🙄). If I do, I will try to put a video together on how to remove the bearings, and possibly where to order new ones if needed. It might be a while, because there's a few pressing video projects that I need to do right away, but hopefully I'll be able put something together.
@@themostlymikeshow Thanks - that would be great!
Great video. My HG Freehub has roughly 1.5mm of play in the axial direction. Would this be due to a lack of tightening as shown at the 12min mark of the video? OR is it inside the freehub that is causing the problem.
Hi Mark. Thanks for watching. I'm sorry, but I'm not sure without seeing it. I've had the cartridge bearings break in mine before which caused lots of play, but it actually made the entire cassette rock sort of axially and radially... Plus it made lots of noise. I'm guessing that yours isn't making noise when you ride it, but just a little play? Sorry that I couldn't be of more help on this.
Hey! Great video, really easy to follow. Quick question (I'm sorry if you've already answered this...)
Where did you get your wheel jig from?🤘👊👍
Hi Jamie. Thanks for watching! If you are speaking of the Park Tool WH-1, I believe I purchased it from Amazon. I could provide you a link if you like.
Here's the link :
amzn.to/3I4U4BT
Great vid, thanks 👍. Yet, I have an issue removing my Shimano cassette from the hub, a Mavic freehub ts-2 . I kann unscrew the lock ring with the help of a chainwhip and lock ring tool, but afterwards I can't pull the cassette off the hub. Anything I can do to overcome this? Thanks
Thanks for watching. Is it an "HG" or "XD" driver that your cassette is on? If it's an XD (from SRAM), there might be another step. It's been a while since I had the SRAM one apart.
Love your humor. Cheers!
Thanks Clifford! Glad you like. I try to throw as much dry humor in my videos as possible. 😂
loved your script. you are excellent. i would like a quieter freehub. Any recommandation?
Thanks so much Diane for watching and the kind words! I spend a lot of time trying to constantly improve the content, but it really makes my day when people tell me that it helped them out or made then laugh. As for a quieter hub, the most quiet that I know of is Onyx. I don't know anyone who has used Onyx, but they are not only silent, but supposedly have infinite engagement. I hope that this helps you. What kind of hub are you running now?
Wow you deserve a lot of subscribers
Great Vid Mike! Thank you, I liked your presentation style .I have subscribed and Ill be changing my shimano freehub in the new year. Ill re watch your vid for sure.
( that has very quiet rachet)
Thanks Jase for watching and subscribing as well as the kind words. If you run into any problems when you replace your freehub, feel free to contact me. I try to answer every comment as quickly as possible. Happy holidays!
@@themostlymikeshow super kind of u my friend.. ill keep you in kind for sure. Cheers from Australia!
very helpful. Thanks!
Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed!
You can zip tie the larger gear to spokes to get you home, but no freewheel, so be careful.
Thanks for watching and the tip Hindesite. I hadn't thought of that but it seems like it would work. Just have to watch coasting.
do you have any suggestion for bear pawl xd driver? thanks
Hi Lenin. I'm not familiar with Bear Pawl. Is that a brand of driver?
It seems like this sHOW is mostly Mike. But I could be wrong. Have to see after several videos.
Ha ha! I welcome you to watch them all if you like! Thanks Pentium man.
The channel name is a play on words with my real name, LOL.
Hey Mike! Excellent video! Couldn’t find another video out there showing freehub failure on the trail. One of the most important parts of understanding the whole ball of wax. My failure was the smallest cog on the cassette stripping the splines on the freehub! This failure was on a 3 month old bike! An online bike store no less! Any idea what would cause this? Didn’t know anything about freehubs before this failure.
Thanks for watching and the kind words Win. I try to clarify as many of the hard details as I can in my videos. Is your setup Shimano or Sram?
@@themostlymikeshow Shimano.
Great video, thanks. But whoops, when you're unscrewing the reverse threaded bit, the text says lefty loosey when it's really righty loosey.
Thanks for pointing that out Michael. I must have written that under force of habit. I wish that they would allow to make corrections on stuff like that without taking the video down, but as far as I know, there is no way to make any changes other than deleting or blurring after the video is uploaded. I will look into it, and at least add the mistake to the description. Thanks!
This guy is on par with ToT, how can he have so few subs!?
Thanks Lyon$! What's ToT?
@@themostlymikeshow its short for ”ThisOldTony” which is one of my absolute favorite youtube channels :)
@@themostlymikeshow be sure to watch his video called Tool Hacks!
OMG yes! I love This Old Tony! I have been subscribed to his channel for a few months. I love his style of humor, which is similar to my own. I do a little machining too.
I somehow missed the tool Hacks video, but just watched it... I'm inspired!
2:48 that design is a million times better than a chain whip
I like the pliers. I used the whips for years until I learned of pliers.
Great video,,,,,, who makes the bench wheel working gadget...?..?.??..???????????,,,,I’m tired on working on the floor....
Thanks Tony! That is a Park Tool WH-1 wheel holder. They are a little pricey, but they work well. Here's a link to my video reviewing it. Beware, it was my very first video, so it's not very well produced, lol.
Hey dude great video very helpful. This is my specs
Shimano FH-MT200, 9x141mm QR, 32h, Center Lock™ disc
Where can i get just the freewheel hub from & how much would it cost? Where did u get yours & how much did you pay? Mine has a little bit of the damage from the previous owner being rough with It i guess so i wouldn't mind replacing it to make sure it doesn't damage my brand new cassette. Thanks.
First off, thanks xDi for the kind words! I will try to hunt some stuff up later tonight, and get back with you on what you will need for those Hub specs. That one that I had was made for a formula brand hub,(that may be what the FH in your part number stands for) and Cannondale had actually put a part number on it, which ordinarily adds to the price. I was lucky enough to find mine as New Old Stock on eBay and got a deal on it. I think it was about 32 bucks if I remember correctly. I would definitely hang on to your old one if you buy new to keep as a serviceable spare.
I like the family Guy music at the start.
Ha ha! Thanks Allan! I always try to do something different to add some humor.
You should suggest compressed air to make SURE you get the little metal bits out!
Thanks for watching! I agree.
This is the first time that I watch your video it is simple and easy the way you explain now I have a question for you sir I can upgrade my marlin 5 to a 12 speed?
Thanks Danny for watching and the kind words. If you have the Shimano HG driver, you would probably need to replace it with a compatible driver for a 12 speed cassette, but you would also have to change the derailleur as well as the shifters to get it to work. Does your bike have a Shimano or SRAM drivetrain?
@@themostlymikeshow yes Mike I have shimano seven speed and three gears in the front I and I will try to convert to one by I hope I can do it thank you and make more videos I really enjoy how you explain everything God bless you and merry Christmas 🎄
I have lots of videos in the works. I haven't been doing as much riding with the remodeling of the building for the new bike shop, and the set for the bike maintenance videos, which explains the tool reviews. It will be nice when complete, but I have been working exclusively by myself on the project. Merry Christmas and God bless you as well!
@@themostlymikeshow Thank you 🙏
Do you have the part number for cannondale free hub? I have a formula style hub.
That happened to my 2021 Schwinn Ascension from target right after the receipt expired. Now the bike is in the closet waiting for me to dish out 200$ more dollars to Taiwan and eBay is getting rid of the all the group sets in July. No more bike parts .
Thanks for watching Silent Strength. Sorry to hear about those issues. So on Ebay they used to carry the group set made for your Ascension and they are not anymore? I'm not familiar with those bikes, but I looked it up. What's exactly breaking on your bike? By looking at the pictures, it looks like most of the rear hub components can probably be purchased separately to rebuild, but without actually seeing it and taking it apart, I wouldn't know for sure. They look like a great bike for the price though. Lots of features that you don't normally see in that price point.
@@themostlymikeshow yes it is a very very good bike omg it's thick and nice for the MTB trails , I let some air out of the 2.30 tires and the tires eat the roots of the trees and rocks and curbs , on the trails and the bike fits the right way ,full... I added a riser to the steering tho. The wheel hub and cassette freewheel is older. It don't screw in to the hub, it lays on it and with a locking nut , what broke is where it screws in the threats the hole shaft on the outer side of where the bold screws in to hold the freewheel. So I'll get a (freehub ok the rim already ) I found a 75$ double wall rim same as mine already. The group sets I was looking thru on eBay and a few said they are not bringing them into the usa anymore in July shipping container storage. . I'm going to buy the LT WOO group set off eBay beige there are no more. This bike is worth the upgrades. There no bike comparison to the Schwinn fully aluminum 36 pounds. Mine is 34 pounds now and going for 32 pounds. But man I'm so glad I spend the 400$ on this bike omg.. do you have any bike parts that will help my situation
I'm sorry, but I don't really have a lot of spare parts around, but also, not sure what it would take to fix. I looked up some review videos of the Schwinn Ascension and there's a pretty good CZcams channel that works with Schwinn bikes a lot. It's called "Wolftick Videos". They seem to be really up on Schwinn stuff. I hope that this helps. Tell them that I mentioned their channel to you.
Good video. You should of greased the threads of the lockring.
Thanks for watching Joe. I usually do grease the threads, but probably forgot to mention it in the video narrations. Good eye though!
Great video! Can you put a Shimano Freehub on a wheel that has a fixed gear hub? Specifically for an 11 speed Deore group set.
Thanks for watching and the kind words Elaine! By fixed gear, do you mean a single speed (just one cog wheel) with spacers? Also, does the wheel hub have a model number. I'm not real good at this stuff without looking at the actual part, but I can try.
After the free hub is removed, how does one knock out the axle on a formula hub in order to service the bearings?
Thanks for watching. I am not sure what you mean. The axle is a through axle. You pull it out to get the wheel off. I would have to take mine apart to see what holds the bearings in there.
Hi just came across your content i thought it was very well articulated for those of us less knowledgable it was easy to follow .My question ,is it possible to change the free hub to a different type ? i have a 2x9 speed trek mtb and i was thinking for my terrain extremely hard up hills i would like a 1x12 i am unsure if i can convert this bike ,i would like to do this myself ! My weakness is my inexperience in knowing what parts to buy etc my local shop is saying i may need a new back wheel that may be true ? i woild like to just ask if i can change the free hub for something more accepting of 12 speed ?thanks
Thanks for watching and the kind words Stephen. That's not a real easy question to answer. If you look at the Hub itself and get the manufactures part numbers from it, then go to their website, they may provide a list of compatible free hubs and the range of cassettes that are compatible. I always preferred Shimano HG free hubs whenever possible being that there are varieties of economical cassettes that work with shimanos HG splines. Converting to 12 speed will involve derailers as well as the shifters themselves. I hope to make a video on how to set up a derailleur from scratch in the near future. If you're familiar with the berm Peak Channel, Seth just did a video a couple weeks ago which it's very helpful for setting up a brand new derailleur and showing what screw adjusts what. They can be frustrating at times even for advanced mechanics. I know this reply hasn't been really helpful, but I hope it steers you in the right direction.
i appreciate the reply ,the amount of parts available and with everybodys opinion i get lost with all the information and become confused
Hi sir i just want to ask. What is the replacement of shimano hub HB M525?? TO MAKE it loud.
Hi Vincent! Thanks for watching. I'm not familiar with that hub, so I had to look it up for a picture, which I'm sorry to say that I don't have an answer to your question. I'm assuming that this is one of the older styles that has about thirty loose balls inside of it? I saw one on Amazon, and one of the comments said that it is the cure for loud hubs, so I'm guessing that it is the opposite of what you're going for. Why do you want it loud?
Thank you. that was really helpful.
Glad you liked jwc! Thanks for watching!
Very nicely done!
Thanks Milind! Glad you liked.
Im wondering if the pawls are skipping in my hub. When i stand up to pedal and put Load on the drivetrain it skips. Almost like the chain is falling off and then catches again. 2021 kona lava dome 1 week old
Thanks for watching Jordan. I'm thinking if the bike is that new, it probably isn't an issue with the pawls, especially if you haven’t been riding it hard around punchy steep climbs. A lot times on new bikes the cable tension requires adjustment, usually needing more tensioning.
I usually back out the barrel adjuster and keep track of how many clicks, so that if it doesn't improve, or gets worse, you can return it to where you started.
Without actually seeing what it's doing, I am kind of guessing at this point.
I hope that this helps.
Awesome Job! Thanks.
Thanks for watching Samuel! Glad to help!
Could I swap from a HG driver on my Specialized Status to an XD driver this same way?
Thanks for watching Snow. I really don't know without actually seeing it. If it goes together the same way as the one I'm showing in the video, it probably would, but you would probably need that spacer. The final dimension has to be the same as what you started with for proper alignment for the back wheel.
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Thanks a bunch MrLee Pads! Glad you enjoyed!
Yes Sir thanks for this watching your other video
You sprayed degreaser on a bearing ?
Hi Just Joe! That video was from over a year ago, so I had to watch it again and see where you meant. Yes, I had a citrus degreaser called "Big Orange" that I sprayed on it. I just left it on briefly and wiped it out. It's not a very aggressive degreaser oh, so I don't think it got into the bearing at all. It has been well over a year, and several hundred miles later, with no issues. Not sure if it's the preferred method, but it got the gunk out of there. That was one of the Lesser produced earlier videos of mine, so there were mistakes made, like I don't know if you noticed, but I said Lefty Loosey on the part where I talked about a left-handed thread. It should have said righty Loosey. It's no way to go back and edit those mistakes other than to leave them in the description.
Mines a Shimano cassette to remove the cassette mine don't have Allen key I guess I have to remove axle to get in a the pawls?
Hi Alan. I believe that on one side or the other, there should be a place for a hex (Allen) key. It might be a different size than the one in this video. It's actually pretty hard to see them sometimes. It may be left hand threads. I hope that this helps.
Nice tutorial Mike. Hopefully that little devil will leave you alone now.
Thanks Tony! I'm hoping to not see that devil for a while. It's nice to have both bikes in good repair again!
Great job !
Thanx
Thanks for watching and the kind words Biesczad720. Glad you enjoyed!
Why did your hub break anyway? Did you not put grease in it after it was completely soaked in water?
Nope, as you can see in the video, the grease was fine. That hill was super steep, and at the time, I weighed about 220 ish. Putting that much weight on the crank on a hill with a three pawl hub is not a very good combination. The pawls break. Thanks for watching.
I have Polygon Premier 5, purchased just 9 months ago. I had applied Motul lithium based grease one month ago in both the rear wheel hubs from outside. After that it malfunctioned. I am paddling but cycle not moving. Sometimes it will work. Mechanic said that hub needs to be changed. I can’t believe that it broken down in just 9 months. What’s your suggestion ?
Hi Rahul. I am not familiar with Polygon Premier 5,or what hub it has. It sounds to me like the grease might be a little too thick for the hub, causing the engagement points to hang up from the thickness of the grease. Without actually looking at it to see what it is I might recommend getting it flushed out with solvent on the insides and instead of using Grease, I would use a light weight oil to lubricate the points of engagement. I hope that this helps.
Doesn't spraying degreaser in the hub affect the bearing?
Thanks for watching Morris. Yes, it probably would in larger quantities. I arguably didn't use a large amount, and quickly soaked it up to get residual grease out to ensure that there was no more broken pieces of the pawls left in there which could cause further damage.
Large amounts of degreser, especially more aggressive degreasers than what I used, would certainly break down the grease in the bearings. The bearings also have a rubber seal designed to keep water and dirt out, but should protect somewhat from the degreasers.
I hope that this helps.
I love you, you saved my day
Thanks Paul! Glad that it helped!
My cassette recently stopped spinning freely when coasting. There was a certain point in the wheel's revolution where the cassette would "stick" to the wheel. I suspected something was gummed up inside the freehub body. However, I haven't for the life of me been able to get the darn thing off, even following your video and numerous others. I can get the cassette off and take the axle out without issue, but the free hub body acts as if it's welded on. You pulled yours off by hand; I tried a pair of vice grips and still couldn't get it off. Any ideas what I might be missing?
Hi Aaron. What kind of free hub body does yours have? Is it the same as the one that I used in the video? I'm not sure what could be holding it without seeing a picture of it or the actual piece.
on my thru axle there is no place for hex key. after removing the axle i have only a smooth tube through the hub...how to remove such freehubs? cheers
Thanks for watching. Do you know if your bike has cartridge style bearings or cone bearings? Cone bearings are the ones that have two Thin nuts right where they go against the frame that take up the slop in the bearings.
Hi. They are cartridges. I thought that I have just to pull it off, but there is not working....thanks for helping
BTW, there are multiple methods of removing the freehub based on brand. For instance I have Winspace (Lun) Carbon Hyper Wheels and the freehub pulls off with a twist and pull. How do I know this? Well I did not have 11T cog aligned properly and I wound up stripping the threads on the female freehub lockring threads so I had to replace it ;-(
I have the DT Swiss star ratchet on my Santa Cruz Tallboy and it comes apart that way with a pull and twist. I really like that design. I was going to to make a video on the upgrade of the Star ratchet to get more points of engagement.
Thank you what causes the hub to get loosen? There is no way to tighten it up which causes my cassette to be loose. The axle is packed with new grease & wheel doesn't move only the cassette.
Sorry about the delay response. I'm not sure what would cause that without seeing what is happening. I'd be curious to see what you find out, or found out on that.
@@themostlymikeshow I researched & found out that Calvin from the ParkTool video that a little play in the freehub is normal. My problem wasn't the cassette just the proper adjustment lubrication of the axle.
I see. That's good to know. I'm glad that you got it fixed. Calvin and Truman are very knowledgeable.
Great explanation, thank you!!
Thanks for watching and the kind words Fred! More videos like this coming up! Have you changed your freehub out yet?
@@themostlymikeshow Oh yes MANY times rode/raced for many years. NOW only ride a Recumbent Trikes.
Cool! I always wanted to take a recumbent trike for a spin, but never have.
@@themostlymikeshow Welcome to come try mine out. I have a Triot and a Terra Trike Off Road model.
What free hub did you use is it a steel or aluminum? Im having a problem in my chosen hubs because it has lots of cog bite its aluminum
Hey Aldwin! Mine are aluminum. I do get a lot of cog bite in it, but I just file off the rough edges when it gets bad and it doesn't seem to hurt anything. There may be some other brands of freehubs out there that are made of a better grade of aluminum, but I haven't tried them. What kind of problems are you having?
My freehub has lots of cog bites and its started to sound scary everytime i pedal i already replace the pawls of the hubs and the spring at first its okay but 1 week after it sound the same sound again everytime i pedal
I have never experienced it that bad before. Is your freehub body pretty old? My other bike is making a "mystery sound" at different times when I am pedaling up a really steep hill or riding a wheelie. I am suspecting that it is coming from that area. It's a Shimano freehub body, but instead of the pawls, it has the DT Swiss star ratchet. I'll have to tear it apart and maybe make a video about cog bite if that's the case.
Hi Mike, my current fat tyre size is 26 x 4.0.. and the stock GroupSet Shimano Tourney 10 speed is ready for replacement to 12speed type.
In order to replace to 12speed either Shimano or SRAM, do I need to replace the Wheel set (wheel rim, hub & spokes) or just the hub itself??
Hi Mohamad, if your freehub is compatible with your wheel hub, you can just use a freehub that is set up for 11 or 12 speed cassette. Yours might be good for that, but I wouldn't know for sure. Keep in mind though, that you'll have to change out the shifter and derailleur as well. If the big cog on the new cassette is over 42 tooth, depending on your derailleur cage being short, medium, or long cage, you might need to install a "goat link". I might make a future video on goat links. I had to install on on my Santa Cruz Tallboy. I hope that this helps.
using that degreaser on top of the sealed bearings, what does that to them?
Hi Jackie! I have never had any issues, but great question. I would think that the seal should keep most if not all of the solvent out of the actual bearings. I go relatively sparingly when I do clean this. Thanks for watching!
i have a 3pawl hub, if i change my freehub to a microspline/xd drive and it is also 3 pawl, will it fit?
It seems like it should, but I'm sorry, I don't know for sure without knowing exactly what hub it is. They can sure get complicated.
I am going into the 3rd week waiting for a delivery for a Shimano free hub for my 2020 Specialized Turbo Levo . They say in it shipping but can't say when it will arrive . Summer flying by and I can't ride. The number on mine is fh-mt510-b . Would any of the other models be compatible ?
Hi Alan. I hunted around, and they seem kind of tough to locate. I will keep looking, but I did find this one. Not sure how much delay would be from overseas, but you might be able to rush the order. Here's the link :
www.xxcycle.com/shimano-freehub-y3td98040,,en.php
This is the part number, I believe.
Y-0KD 98040
Can i cange may 3 pawls to 4pawls?
Only if the four pawl freehub is compatible with that internal gear ring in your hub. You would need to research the number of your hub to if there's one available for your model. I hope that this helps.
I’m a year late but I have a question, I have a nukeproof neutron wheelset, and I’m thinking of doing a 6 pawl freehub conversion, would I be able to put a nukeproof horizon freehub on my nukeproof neutron hub? The mounting points look exactly the same
Thanks for watching Dominica. I wish that I had the answer for you. I could dig around and maybe get back. I have a Nukeproof Scout, but I haven't taken it apart that far to see what parts are in there.
@@themostlymikeshow okay, much appreciated if you are able to get back to me
I have a shimano mt400. Can I upgrade the freehub?
I'm sorry, Nikolaus, but I'm not sure. As long as the freehub is compatible with your wheel hub, there may be an upgrade option available, as long as it fits your cassette. Most of the older Shimano hubs look like the one in this video on the exterior. The interior where it mates to the wheel hub is the important part. Do your hubs have a brand name and model number in the middle?
@@themostlymikeshow FH-MT400-B
@@MccrackenN I looked up the number that you gave me. I haven't found any information about what's inside that freehub. Do you know what year that it was from? It almost looks like the older freewheel body that engages with steel balls instead of having 3 or 6 pawls. You may need to check with Shimano to see if there's anything available for upgrading. I'm not familiar with those.
@@themostlymikeshow it's from the 2020 fuse
Did you know if I can use a Industry nine free body hub instead?
Hi Eduardo. I'm sorry, but I don't know much about industry Nine stuff.
Hi, is there any signs to look out for id the free hub is about let go? Or does it just happen unexpectedly?
Hi Dal, I haven't really noticed much, except maybe an occasional skip, but that could also come from the derailleur being out. Most of the time mine just failed, but one time I was able to ride the rest of the weekend. When it did that, it was sticking and when I would coast, it would lightly engage the chain, so if I took my feet off the pedals, it would spin the crank. When it did that, if I tried to pedal backwards while coasting, the chain would come off. I hope that this helps.
@@themostlymikeshow Thanks
When you fit the new freehub does it pull straight out or if you pull it it stays in? Thanks
Hi Dave. I'm sorry, but I don't understand what your question is. Do you mean pulling on the cassette?
@@themostlymikeshow when my freehub is on the turbo trainer i can pull it straight off. I'm guessing this shouldn't be the case? There is a nut that keeps it in place, but doesn't the freehub click into the hub body?
There's only one scenario that I can think of...is it by chance a DT Swiss Star Ratchet hub? They pull straight off, cassette and all, and have a quarter sized splined star Ratchet in place of the pawls.
Hi, I want to change my shimano hg body to sram XD, do I need a new hub or can I just buy the body?
Hi Sam. I actually did the exact opposite in this video and went from XD to Shimano HG. You can get the XD driver body, but you also need to order both end caps to make the spacing correct. I used the XD end caps on mine, but I had to make a 3mm spacer to give the correct overall width. I am at work while I am writing this, but I believe that the name of the place that I ordered the parts from was
www.amaincycling.com
I will try to check when I get home to verify that it was the place that I ordered the stuff from. Those parts are pretty hard to find. I hope that this helps! Thanks for watching!
@@themostlymikeshow thank you for your help
I have a shimano slx hub and wanted to know if a DT swiss xdr freehub with 3pawls will fit?
Hi I've got the the same set up and the same question as yourself, have you been able to find an answer to this question. Regards Tony.🏴✌
Sorry that I didn't get back with a reply on this sooner guys. I'm also sorry that I really don't really know the answer. It definitely looks similar from the pictures that I looked at. I had a tough time at first trying to figure out what I needed for my hub, and then doing the conversion to the Shimano setup added to the frustration. It would be an expensive gamble to try one. My Santa Cruz Tallboy has a DT Swiss hub, but it's star ratchet drive, not 3 pawl.
Really need to wash the bike or at least the parts around the area you are going to be working. Getting grit inside the hub when you take it all apart is a good way to wear it out fast. Also you do not want to spray degreaser into the hub and let it pool on top of that bearing, don't want any of that to get past the seal, just spray the degreaser on the rag and wipe it out
Thanks for watching and the helpful tip! Yes, I definitely need to wash stuff up more before I work on it.
@@themostlymikeshow Great video! you can get away with it for like a tire change, but anytime you are messing around with sealed / greased parts with bearings etc. want to have any loose dirt/dust out of the area, same with workspace