I've been a Hab fan for about 55 years but for the last 15 years like many Hab fans I've had a hunger to see the Habs be successful and return to the type of team they were during the glory days. However, i"ve spend hours upon hours reading every stinking article and comment there is and the team is still struggling and were not even close to winning a cup. Here I am ( we are ) putting such importance on this team but if for a moment you think about how small this planet is compared to the ginormous size of the universe and how short life is. I think I might take a break from all this Habs drama wait a few years and come back and see what Hughes and Gorton did to make the team a contender because when it comes down to it there's nothing I can do about it. Ciao
Gorton is hoping to get his mika zibanejad like trade for the Habs.. hopefully he can get a player as good! Did he ever fleece the Sens when he was with rangers
The thing i like about this potential trade for Kakko is the positive impact it could have on both to reunite Kakko with Ylönen who were both amazingly efficient when they won the World Junior Championship together. But with what happened for Lindholm, we'd have to also get more than that for Monahan, like a first round pick this very draft, if not a Gabe Perreault.
Something that always stuck with me growing up as a young player 50 years ago going to tournaments was seeing opposing talent that looked way TOO good like we had no chance. There is a whole different story when the game is on being SMART and tough outweighs skill all day EVERY day. Those are the intangibles people don't see all people want to see is goals and assists. There is yet one more intangible people don't see and that is that some players are what I call LEECHERS and some are those that elevate others around them. Some do like to use the term LEADER a guy like Messier was a leader but often people misuse the term leader. Zegras is NOT that guy Kakko is NOT that guy these are more guys like Nick and Cole who will LOSE to other teams first line players.MTL management and fans need to quit looking at just OUR team we need to understand there are OTHER teams and that is how we judge our team because to win a cup we have to beat THOSE teams. Furthermore you can't be paying second line players 8 mil geesh and even as good skilled second line players you need to have playoff toughness you still need to win puck battles and be on the PLUS side of +/-.
For someone to say Fowler reminds them of a combination of Roy, Hasek, Brodeur and Price, that is some potential if that's the case. To me when it comes to Mailloux I have heard comparisons with Dougie Hamilton and Shea Weber.
I don’t dislike Kakko, but if there really are 4-5 teams interested I feel like there will be prospects on the table that have a better chance of reaching their projected ceiling. Maybe not picks, but younger prospects than Kakko.
Habs need a good size goal scorer that can grind and forcheck , Caufield and Suzuki are 2nd line players. They can't compete against most 1st lines on other teams 5 on 5
Button said that Montreal has a cupboard full of prospects, but he did not mention that most of them would just be supporting cast on an NHL team. Reinbacher or their 2024 1st rd pick are the only serious chips which HuGo can use in a trade for a guy like Zegras.....but Montreal will not do it. Indeed, Zegras is no genuine 1C, likely just a 2C, this is why he is expendable in Anahiem which already has Leo Carlsson and McTavish as their two futur 1C and 2C.
@@keungy if he was playing fantastic we wouldn't be able to get him for a rental player. Let's not get greedy and end up Columbus who got nothing for Gaudreau. If you can get Kakko take it. We need wingers
@@keungy so let's follow up with up with this thread Monahan got traded for whats going to be a mid to late first-round pick I would have rather had the top five pic of kakko for potential
Lol...Tony you said this last yr and the yr before..4-5 more years?????..your kidding..it's been 3yrs already..nobody in this city wants to wait another 5 yrs..NOW THATS A JOKE..with a couple of drades I believe they can be in top 8 teams and as we know big D and a gd goalie anything happens in playoffs..but I for one believe another 5yrs is wayy to long and even Mr Molson won't wait 8yrs
4-5yrs before we have a real shot at the Cup, not simply making playoffs. Lots of teams make playoffs, and although anything can happen (like Habs run 3yrs ago), the chances of are very low of making it all the way. You think we can win the Cup as soon as Hutson, and Rainbacher start their rookie season in Mtl? It will take all these young guys who are 18-22 another 3-5yrs before they enter their prime. Now had we finished with a top 3 pick last summer, then yeah maybe we would be about 3yrs away from being a cup contender. But we blew that one good.
Tony you're completely in the ditch. People will want sooner then later a CUP. And they will not care about seeing a guy like Zegras or not. Bring a cup and they will not care about the players...
@@acidraindrops1 Nobody said they will be winning a cup soon. Just saying that if fan have choice of having, for example, Conord Bedard with no cup or another less impressing player but win a cup, they would choose the cup. This is because Tony keep saying he wants "stellar" players. Stellar players do not guaranty a cup. Look at Toronto...
After buffoons disrespect for the habs in 2019 (no chance for them to get out of the ist round) and having them go to the cup final I have NO respect for this guys opinions!
There is no bigger fan of Zubov than me but bringing up other players is pointless because for every positive argument there is an equal negative argument.An example going on right now is Fowler I am sick of hearing abotu Fowler goaleis now a days are garbage every single one of them just drop to their knees and hope pucks hit them. So since people like to throw around other names I can as well Carter hart was that FOWLER type prospect amazing numbers a sueprstar the next Tretiak well it hasn't panned out at all.Then we have Patrick Roy AWFUL numbers nobody in their right mind would pick him to be a great NHL goalie well...guess what. SO people need to quit looking at junior numbers tell me WHY you think Fowler is going to be good what does he do that makes him stand out because all I see is another flop to the knees goalie. The last time goalies were actual difference makers was back in the Turco Brodeur era when goalies played the puck and acted like a third defenseman.Goalies now make me laugh shots go upstairs and they flop to their knees NO CLUE where the shot is going they are al just guessing and praying.
Craig Button never has and never will say anything bad about any prospect. I don't want TZ because he is the wrong type of player to add to what we already have.
Monahan is still young. Get rid of Suzuki and sign 💰. Build the team around someone with heart. Also, the coaching staff ha got to go. 👋. Matheson up front with Monahan and Caulfield. Mailoux up. Harris down. Allan Trade now. Roy, Leggare, Gingac up... Slavkosky down...
Great show Tony and Craig .
You bring the best value possible always. Your subs are gonna explode when the team starts flourishing.
I've been a Hab fan for about 55 years but for the last 15 years like many Hab fans I've had a hunger to see the Habs be successful and
return to the type of team they were during the glory days. However, i"ve spend hours upon hours reading every stinking article and comment there is and the team is still struggling and were not even close to winning a cup. Here I am ( we are ) putting such importance on this team but if for a moment you think about how small this planet is compared to the ginormous size of the universe and how short life is. I think I might take a break from all this Habs drama wait a few years and come back and see what Hughes and Gorton did to make the team a contender because when it comes down to it there's nothing I can do about it.
Ciao
Very very true.
When this team is a power house in a few years this channel will double Sammy. Mark my words. Were gonna have fun habs fans.
Good show. Jets Fan: Interesting chat.
Gorton is hoping to get his mika zibanejad like trade for the Habs.. hopefully he can get a player as good! Did he ever fleece the Sens when he was with rangers
The thing i like about this potential trade for Kakko is the positive impact it could have on both to reunite Kakko with Ylönen who were both amazingly efficient when they won the World Junior Championship together. But with what happened for Lindholm, we'd have to also get more than that for Monahan, like a first round pick this very draft, if not a Gabe Perreault.
Nice to run into Craig near the marina in Cabo. Still not sure about Kakko!
I was at that Marina in December, the street vendors were pretty annoying lol
Something that always stuck with me growing up as a young player 50 years ago going to tournaments was seeing opposing talent that looked way TOO good like we had no chance.
There is a whole different story when the game is on being SMART and tough outweighs skill all day EVERY day.
Those are the intangibles people don't see all people want to see is goals and assists.
There is yet one more intangible people don't see and that is that some players are what I call LEECHERS and some are those that elevate others around them.
Some do like to use the term LEADER a guy like Messier was a leader but often people misuse the term leader.
Zegras is NOT that guy Kakko is NOT that guy these are more guys like Nick and Cole who will LOSE to other teams first line players.MTL management and fans need to quit looking at just OUR team we need to understand there are OTHER teams and that is how we judge our team because to win a cup we have to beat THOSE teams.
Furthermore you can't be paying second line players 8 mil geesh and even as good skilled second line players you need to have playoff toughness you still need to win puck battles and be on the PLUS side of +/-.
For someone to say Fowler reminds them of a combination of Roy, Hasek, Brodeur and Price, that is some potential if that's the case.
To me when it comes to Mailloux I have heard comparisons with Dougie Hamilton and Shea Weber.
Does Craig have any stories that aren't from 20 years ago?
I don’t dislike Kakko, but if there really are 4-5 teams interested I feel like there will be prospects on the table that have a better chance of reaching their projected ceiling. Maybe not picks, but younger prospects than Kakko.
SICK
I would move Reinbacher in a deal to get Zegras. Heck I would move Reinbacher for Jiricek.
Reinbacher is gonna be Hutson's partner. Its written all over !
After the Lindholm trade it appears that a return from the Rangers for Monahan could end up being something like: Kaapo Kakko and a 1st round pick.
Or Lafreniere for Monahan one for one.
Kakko for anyone we won’t have in a cup run in a few years
Habs need a good size goal scorer that can grind and forcheck , Caufield and Suzuki are 2nd line players. They can't compete against most 1st lines on other teams 5 on 5
Maybe MSL could do some magic with Kakko and bring the elite talent that's sleeping deep inside him
Only time you see Craig Buton
not dressed up
Zegras, dach, slov on the first line
Button said that Montreal has a cupboard full of prospects, but he did not mention that most of them would just be supporting cast on an NHL team. Reinbacher or their 2024 1st rd pick are the only serious chips which HuGo can use in a trade for a guy like Zegras.....but Montreal will not do it. Indeed, Zegras is no genuine 1C, likely just a 2C, this is why he is expendable in Anahiem which already has Leo Carlsson and McTavish as their two futur 1C and 2C.
Caufield gets his points on the pp ,Kakko doesn't play pp
Says the guy who was fired by the Flames
Button is entertaining, but listening the way he is talking about certain teams or players, I can see why he is no longer an nhl GM....
i dont want kakko we need to go after McGroaty in Winnipeg.
We can do way better than Kakko for Monahan. I'd take Kakko but not in that trade, unless it was part of a bigger package
A top 3 overall pick for an expiring contract? Lol I'd take Kakko ANYDAY... He's still extremely young. let's not get greedy here 😅
@@Antonio-hz9rc top 3 pick who hasn't done anything in his 5 seasons. High probability of turning into a bust
@@keungy if he was playing fantastic we wouldn't be able to get him for a rental player. Let's not get greedy and end up Columbus who got nothing for Gaudreau. If you can get Kakko take it. We need wingers
@@Antonio-hz9rc That's the point. He's not playing fantastic. And likely won't in the future
@@keungy so let's follow up with up with this thread Monahan got traded for whats going to be a mid to late first-round pick I would have rather had the top five pic of kakko for potential
Don't play Monahan another minute.
If they trade #91 you can kiss him goodbye 👋
Lol...Tony you said this last yr and the yr before..4-5 more years?????..your kidding..it's been 3yrs already..nobody in this city wants to wait another 5 yrs..NOW THATS A JOKE..with a couple of drades I believe they can be in top 8 teams and as we know big D and a gd goalie anything happens in playoffs..but I for one believe another 5yrs is wayy to long and even Mr Molson won't wait 8yrs
4-5yrs before we have a real shot at the Cup, not simply making playoffs. Lots of teams make playoffs, and although anything can happen (like Habs run 3yrs ago), the chances of are very low of making it all the way. You think we can win the Cup as soon as Hutson, and Rainbacher start their rookie season in Mtl? It will take all these young guys who are 18-22 another 3-5yrs before they enter their prime.
Now had we finished with a top 3 pick last summer, then yeah maybe we would be about 3yrs away from being a cup contender. But we blew that one good.
Kaliyev for monahan
Tony you're completely in the ditch. People will want sooner then later a CUP. And they will not care about seeing a guy like Zegras or not. Bring a cup and they will not care about the players...
Habs not winning a cup anytime soon
@@acidraindrops1 Nobody said they will be winning a cup soon. Just saying that if fan have choice of having, for example, Conord Bedard with no cup or another less impressing player but win a cup, they would choose the cup. This is because Tony keep saying he wants "stellar" players. Stellar players do not guaranty a cup. Look at Toronto...
Kako is a bust!
Hard Pass on Kakko. Give me Lambert or Poitras any day instead of that flop
No for kakko
After buffoons disrespect for the habs in 2019 (no chance for them to get out of the ist round) and having them go to the cup final I have NO respect for this guys opinions!
There is no bigger fan of Zubov than me but bringing up other players is pointless because for every positive argument there is an equal negative argument.An example going on right now is Fowler I am sick of hearing abotu Fowler goaleis now a days are garbage every single one of them just drop to their knees and hope pucks hit them.
So since people like to throw around other names I can as well Carter hart was that FOWLER type prospect amazing numbers a sueprstar the next Tretiak well it hasn't panned out at all.Then we have Patrick Roy AWFUL numbers nobody in their right mind would pick him to be a great NHL goalie well...guess what.
SO people need to quit looking at junior numbers tell me WHY you think Fowler is going to be good what does he do that makes him stand out because all I see is another flop to the knees goalie.
The last time goalies were actual difference makers was back in the Turco Brodeur era when goalies played the puck and acted like a third defenseman.Goalies now make me laugh shots go upstairs and they flop to their knees NO CLUE where the shot is going they are al just guessing and praying.
Another mister know it all
For kakko not only would I give Monahan but I would also include any of harris/barron or xhekaj
Xhekaj in this trade, not going to happen for a 6pts Kakko. lol
And that's why you wouldn't make a GM..lol.your kidding right?
@@alanhannah5113 keep scouting that hockeydb page and not actual games bud 👌
XHEKAJ is not for sale. He will be the next Larry Robinson for the Habs.
Smoking crack i see
I loathe showboaters.
Craig Button never has and never will say anything bad about any prospect. I don't want TZ because he is the wrong type of player to add to what we already have.
who cares about soccer????
Monahan is still young.
Get rid of Suzuki and sign 💰.
Build the team around someone with heart.
Also, the coaching staff ha got to go.
👋.
Matheson up front with Monahan and Caulfield.
Mailoux up.
Harris down.
Allan Trade now.
Roy, Leggare, Gingac up...
Slavkosky down...