10 Tips for Beginners After 60 + HOURS of Shin Megami Tensei V
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Shin Megami Tensei V is a JRPG developed and published by Atlus exclusively for Nintendo Switch. SMT V releases worldwide on November 12th 2021. This Shin Megami Tensei V video of Tips for Beginners is SPOILERS-FREE.
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If you played the game? Do you have some other tips? Feel free to drop them below!
Happy Shin Megami Tensei V launch! Make sure to check out my spoilers-free review as well if you haven't already! Link in the description
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Pretty early on you should essence fuse with Jack Frost and give yourself the resist fire skill. You then drain ice and have no weakness. I got to lvl 50 this way.
Or fuse Shiki-Ouji (the white and red sided demon) and get dark, light and phys. resistances. No more instant death from dark+light annd 90% attacks are phys..
@@stinky_nut_blast aren't u weak to fire and force tho?
@@_OmegaX8 Yes, but those don't have instant death effects like dark & light. So best resistance to have are dark,light and physical; and Shiki-Ouji does have them all.
@@stinky_nut_blastbeen awhile, but light and dark are only kills on weakness. Doesn't work like persona
@@harrisonmakris1376 Doesn't the MC start with a weakness to dark ?
Use spyglass on Mitama enemies, once you see their weaknesses. They can be one shot.
Thanks for the tip.
Or take screenshoots of them
@@Fermin-hw5pd but aren’t the weakness always different?
@@DinoBunnyStudio Wait they are?
@@Fermin-hw5pd Yeah every single Mitama enemy has random weaknesses
Even if you have a group of 4 of the same one, between them the weaknesses are randomized
My 2 cents as someone @ lv50 on hard rn
- Make sure you have a healthy stock of shards and dampeners for the boss battles.
- The order of team members is important to maximize the amount of press turns you can get (for instance always have a demon that can exploit the boss' weakness on the first slot so you can start generating your half turns from the start).
- Get both the miracle that replenishes mp when magatsuhi is full and the one that allows demons to use items
- Doing all the side quests and abcesses is often enough to keep up with the bosses level wise, there's little need to farm exp (and arguably not a good idea at higher difficulty)
- Some demons I've found especially useful in key scenarios: Neko shogun, Oni (and every phys resistant demon after it), Kaya, Cironnpu, Quetzalcoatl (esp. at the end of the second daat map), Kurama Tengu (cheap and easy to fuse, access to acrobat kick), Belphegor, Kushinada, all Megami/Lady demons (competent healers), all special fusion demons (notably black frost).
- Make sure you have some skills that make it easier to navigate (estoma, trafuri)
- Feel free to use all your "important resources" (mp recovery items, beads, grimoires, etc) when the situation calls for it.
Should honestly save your important items unless absolutely necessary (boss fights)
Nuwa's magatsuhi attack can be completely nullified using a very inexpensive item from the shop, and you can carry a total of 3 of these items at a time.
Which item?
@@flataffect force dampener
for the tip against Nuwa. Don't guard, use a force dampener.
thats what i thought
Gonna try this today! Been stuck on her
@@nickrusso3833 makes it a total breeze
@@kittycoma it did, just beat her! Appreciate the advice
Only got like 2 hours so far but I'm just walking around looking at everything and checking out the world having a blast seeing some of the early game demons running around and trying to recruit them. This game is everything I hoped it would be so far and I'm hoping it will just get better! I played 6 other smt and persona games this year so far to get ready for smt 5 lol.
Same!! Also just grinding. One died once so far.
Damn 6 games? What are they though?
What games do you recommend to someone who’s only played P5 and SMT5? I know P4 and Nocturne are what every fan recommends
@@SinthetikLED Out of the 8 games I've played, SMT IV is my personal favorite game in the series if you have access to a 3DS
Probably out did it then
Better than guarding is using dampeners. This only takes up one of Nahobino’s turns as opposed to everyone’s if you guard, and will completely null the enemy’s attack, cutting their turn short. You can use a Spyglass to check out any boss’s skills, and the one they use after gathering Magatsuhi is usually their unique attack, and is always the same, so you can predict it and fully null it
Can confirm. Dark Dampener and Force Dampener made the Hydra and Nüwa fights pretty easy. And in mid to late game, the Physical Block (?) spell is sooo good.
Can work really well in some fights, but in others it's too much of a coin toss to abuse, unless you have a few miracles to enable it. Hydra, for example, uses both dark and fire as it's powerful attacks, so dampening one or the other is a literal coin toss to waste your turn. If (and this is later, as you cannot get it by Hydra) you gain the miracle to let demons use items, you can cover your ass on multiple attacks and stymie the Magatsuchi turns and other dangerous setups consistently.
Hydra was kicking my butt so many times, so I had to give my Nahobino and get demons that either had Resist Wind affinities, or an affinity for blocking Dark, which would end up skipping the Hydra’s next turn completely if it hit. I used Dampeners too, but I found that this was also a helpful strategy to get around certain bosses’ multiple attacks and skip them (let them hit you and get blocked/nulled/absorbed). The only annoying thing to deal with is that the pool of Essences and demons that you wanna use for each battle, you might not have available.
@@Rajin90 phys block is so OP until endgame
When a boss is about to use their super attack, use an item that block all attacks of a certain element for 1 turn. They sell for 150 each and you can have a maximum of 3 in your inventory. If you identify the demon you get to know their skillset and some of them only use 1 or 2 elements. If they have a unique skill, chances are they're going to use it, or else force them into using their weaker skill (I'm not sure if the AI "knows" you're using the item). It helped me with many boss fights. It never occurred to me to use block though lol.
This is great advice. Wish I knew this during enemy Magatsui attacks
Block work too but you have to use all your turns
@@kg888 block is less effective and can kill your parties sometimes, then again I’m playing hard. dampers are a game changer made a lot of fights a lot more easy.
Status effects can stop them too
@@blkxbr facts dampers have been saving my arse just as much as the null item
Thank you! i just finished persona 5 royal and it was the perfect timing as smt5 came out shortly after - i love the differences and was glad to find your video - i‘m so happy to have a grind heavy game for the winter now :)
keep it up!
Great tips David, while im a bit familiar with smt, these are still nice to know, im also doing these while playing.
What i learned from the past games, early game, fang breaker and rakunda or tarunda are extremely helpful against bosses (basically any attack and defense debuffs)
Forgot investing in some spyglasses for them rare mita type mobs. Went through half of world 1 of daat before i nabbed any.
Get the elemental demons and abuse the luck magatsuhi.. slaying gold mitamas with this skill on will give you a ton of exp
can you explain? which magatsuhi skill and what is the method
@@fuckerno12 There's a certain demon type that, after unlocking the associated talisman from a quest, has a Magatsuhi skill that doubles your Macca and EXP earned if the battle is won this turn. Mitama give a lot of Macca and EXP, so defeating them with that Magatsuhi skill gives you even more.
@@Rajin90 assuming you don't keep getting it wrong and if you have a full team you only get two chances before it runs away
@@fillerbunnyninjashark271 There's an item to discover enemy weaknesses.
@@Rajin90 Genma is the type. Which is only a few demons
Always buy spyglasses to farm mitamas early - mid game
My tips is: never feel bad if you fuse a demon you like. The compendium allows you to bring em back
Dont stick with the same 3 demons. Especially endgame, you can and will get destroyed.
Always ger the demon knowledge tool miracle as soon as it unlocks.
Its weird that it needs unlocked but this way you're not breaking your back trying to take most responsibility.
And most inportantly take your time and have fun.
Thanks David for the tips. Cant wait to play e game tomorrow!!😁
I'm new to traditional atlus games (I have both P4As and the Ultimax remake) I'm 20 hours into SMT 5 on switch as my first introduction, was planning on getting Soul Hackers 2 on Xbox and now the announcement of P3P, P4G, and P5R on Xbox I'm super stoked to fully immerse myself into Atlus games more👍👍Edit: loving SMT5 played many JRPGS the super hyper focused rock paper scissors aspect is actually really fun and refreshing when matching element types is a absolute must vs other games when it's take it or leave it
Awesome tips and tricks! My copy just came in the mail :)
Summon your healer when you need it and keep only damage dealers the first turn of combat
That’s a good, simple tip that can easily escape people. Good call!
1. If you want to heal, gather the HP/MP orbs instead of going to leyline Recovery, the healing costs are expensive and the orbs are always refreshes each time you teleport
2. Use Macca for other purposes like using the compendium or buying Dampeners (Dampeners are great for early games especially when you haven't got Block skills)
3. Change your affinities first when you prepare for the boss fights
4. Here's the drops from each Mitamas
Ara Mitama : Grimoire
Saki Mitama : expensive Relics
Nigi Mitama : Glory Crystals
Kusi Mitama : Gospel
Leyline cost is insignificant when you get 100k macca easy
I mean. Why try and save money when it’s just as infinite, and easier to find, as the orbs?
The last Megami Tensei game I played was Demi Kids on GBA loved that figured I'd give this a try
Thanks again for the tips!
I miss strategy guides 😫 My steel book I pre ordered will be here in a week😩 sucks 😝
Hey David, thanks for this video. Im familiar with most of these tips as I have played a few of the persona games. But what abt stats? I would like to go for a Vit and Mag build is it alright?
Why wouldn’t it be?
You’ll take less damage and have stronger magic.
The other choice is to go phys, which can be technically stronger later on in the game, but less flexible.
I don’t think it matters a huge amount. You can’t really break it (in either direction) The game balances out your stats for the main character pretty well and you’re just adding emphasis.
You’re other choices, like miracles, I think are the first choice. Attributes seem secondary. Imo from playing half the game on Hard, ofc.
@@joearnold6881 Thanks for the reply and yea i think ill go for vit and mag for flexibility. Nice im playin on normal and I only have real experience with the persona games.
Can't wait to get it when I get out of work
Can’t wait to play smt v as soon as I get out of class
Facts my dad just gotten it for me
But I’m in my last class so I got to wait till I get home
facts i stoly my moms cc and bought it just now
@@stevecosmolove1045 da sigma male grindset
Make sure you walk home with a buddy!
Btw, yeah you can get abilities with essences, but you need a certain miracle to get it's affinities
best tip should be always save the game. I remember a month ago, i already beaten the hydra and then died to pazuzu and the last save i made was from the start of mita after I got pixie and slime 😬😬😬😬
There’s a lot of great tips in this comment section already, but I want give a quick TLDR tip for those who don’t necessarily want to follow play through guides or abuse demon/essence fusion.
When it comes down to it, just study your enemy. Sometimes you are going to lose really fast and that’s ok! Just remember that the enemy your facing has a certain attack pattern that you can learn from and prepare for!!
Question it’s my first time playing a mainline smt game but have played all personas…now the demons that wur in p5 I see are in here. Do they have same weaknesses and affinity’s to
No, even between different persona games Demons may have different affinities
Essences are like more customizable version of Strange Journey's Demon Source
You can tell this game was made by the only people on earth who've been nuked twice.
Tip number whatever: turn on safety mode and profit
Seriously tho my pro tip is save often save when you come near a leyline fount save before fusing demons save before you fight a boss save save save
That's tip -1 lol
Hell yeah.
I just learned (and this blew my mind)
That I need to save *after* I’ve done everything for a quest bit immediately *before* I hand it in…
Because the goddamn quest giver might thank you for the items and immediately attack you out of the blue as a boss fight.
(Last time I ever get anything for that red and white paper motherfucker…)
Got an awesome steel book case, don’t be intimidated by the difficulty.
I really don't understand how the essence thing works can you make a video?
Do I need to set all the skills when I want to assign just 1? The list is always empty, and I've been filling it out each time. I'm confused if that's the right way.
Like I have;
1. Agi
2, Zen
3. Lunge
4.
And want to learn Dia my list appears
1.
2.
3
4.
And I'm putting everything in just to learn Dia
its normal, it’ll be blank and all your previous skills alongside dia will need to be assigned back manually
@@khaixa_ thanks
Yeah. It weird how they doing it. First time got me throw off.
At first you can only transfer 1 skill from the essence, you can add more through miracles, but there is also skills that cant be transfered
Newbie question, as I wait for the game. What does the +4 (example) mean when listed next to the skill? For example at 5:28 your screen shows skills. Power Punch +4? Maybe it’s explained in the game but I’m just curious while I keep waiting for it to be delivered.
Demons have potential in certain elements this is a number from 1 to 9 plus potential makes the skill better and minus potential makes it worse. it's displayed next to the skill I.e power punch +4 means his physical potential is +4
+4 means mp required for the skill is reduced by 4
-4 is the opposite
so always choose skill that has +
ignore - skill
it consume more mp
such a waste of mp
@@EveLusiana good to know, thanks!
@@Iceboltdoom thanks!
@@EveLusiana its not always linear for the cost reduction. I just got Agilao +1 and it reduces my MP cost by 2 instead of 1. So it also depends of the skills as well
Im 20 hours in and have never used guard yet haha. I also started the 3rd zone now, so its not like Im stuck.
I was half expecting this to start with the captain america meme with him going "so you just experienced your first 1 turn team wipe"
Only guard if you don’t have dampeners for some reason. The right dampener simply ends the bosses turn when they use their ability.
Edit: don’t use those statues unless your part is full of important demons that you intend on keeping…
So far so good! I’m about 5 hours in and what I am confused about is the essence or skill inheritance and how that works. Haha I’m sure I will get it in time.
I'm in the same boat if u find a video or data on it would u link it below
Essence allows you to add skills to demons that would not normally have that skill.
For example say you have a boss that is weak to ice but none of your demons have bufu as a skill.
You can use the essence of a demon that DOES have bufu to teach it to a demon that does not.
@@DaggerX5 thank you!!! I’m so afraid to look it up since I want to avoid spoilers haha! I appreciate it 😁
@@morcatna4767 No problem!! The best way to learn is to test it. Save your game, then buy some essences and do some experiments!
Just make sure you don’t put the moves on demons that have a negative for that element or skill. Walked in on my roommate doing that the other day and had a good laugh 🤣
Ohh noo and here I was thinking I didn't need buffs and debuffs. I usually never use them in those kinds of games. Thanks for the tip I will definitely use them now
anyone got some pro tips for hardmode? I've been putting points into agility/magic so far. stregnth doesn't seem very good until later in the game unless you learn charge
You want to committ to physical or magic.
If you're doing magic like I think you are, get all the almighty boosts you can
Also vitality better than agility
This video is so helpful. Thankyou! I was a little lost but this helps so much
5 hours in about to face the first boss and I've already died a few times this is SMT
Haha same I got only just managed to kill the first boss it's not my first game that was Nocturne but dam it's just a little harder I love it
@@andrewkkerr8435 around 40 hours in and the first boss has been the hardest so far, I'm playing on hard like I did nocturne and this is easier as the encounters are not RNG based like nocturne, so far it's an amazing game!
@@mojapangamer1378 wow doing this on hard im having a little trouble on normal keep getting killed on the 3d stage the first kind of boss in that I had a bad set up for it. I die a lot in normal battle when they get the first turn. I was afraid of jack frost for a while I see it coming at me I would run he killed me 3 times
@@andrewkkerr8435 make sure your MC has resistance/null to the demons in the area you are in and use items, the best miracle I got was demons can use items as they are crucial, I used them the same as I do skills, some of the boss fights have taken hours to beat like a certain 3 stage fight that I had to try almost 15 times to beat, just keep at it and fuse all the demons you can!
Yakuza judgement persona and your taste is immaculately
mine is downloading so hype
since this game is on switch does scanning amiibo do anything at all?
I don't think so. They should have made all the amiibos as demons in the game though lol. Imagine scanning in Pokemon and animal crossing characters in SMT lol
@@JaredConnell that would be amazing lol
Not a tip - but David i enjoy your channel so much. I subscribed maybe a week ago and i appreciate your content! Thank you for the tips bc i have been getting my ass whipped in smt 5! Lol.
Thank you for your support christopher! 😁
I'm trying to figure out what the sun gauge does in the top right... does anyone know? I feel like I either missed the game explaining it to me or it hasn't yet.
From what I understand, some of the moon cycles affect which demons will join your group. I had an encounter with a demon where it wouldn’t join because of the full moon.
If you combine demons during a full moon there is a chance of something awesome happening....
I need help because I am trying to get to the next boss and I'm on castle 3rd Stratum and I'm tryna go up but I'm stuck 😰
Hallo w can I change my resistance with essence? Somehow it doesn't work.
You can only do it with nahobino! You pick an essence, then select affinities!
I think its a miracle you get pretty early that allows you to do it.
@@vrageanalyst2931 yes I found it. thanks.
Ever since Matador in SMT3 I just sukunda everything
Not sure if it was said, but piggyback on your nuwa tip. Just go into that fight resisting force or use a force repel item when she gathers for her special. It's a force element attack, so you can just negate it
This is my first mainline smt game. I just beat Hydra, saved walked around aimlessly and got locked in a deathmatch with Pazuzu. He swept my party immediately so I just let him kill me lol
But, did you play SMT Imagine? 🤔 I've gone back to playing it 😎 I love it. Best times 😊
you can just use dampeners as well as guarding.
I bought smt5 because i wanted a more adult pokemon lol
I am really sure that i will enjoy this series im loke 3 hours in..
The soundtrack reminds me of bleach a lil :)
Pokemon and SMT seem to have very little in common. But I guess it wouldn't be a SMTV vid without someone mentioning Pokemon. shrugs
@@NuiYabuko Being the most popular rpg in the world and therefore having a monopoly on types/elements, its hard to not liken any turn based rpg to pokemon.
I did not guarded for Nuwa, rather used affinity essence fusion to have the right resistance and force damper rather than guarding, which I find more effective
How did you know when to force damp? Or did you just use one after every turn.
You do it when she charges her magatsuhi attack, sacrifice of clay is the real danger, you can buff and debuff to survive her other attacks pretty easily
@@JohnJohnson-ev9qn yeah I had reset my game to beat her, my build didn’t have enough vitality to even take one force attack
How do I use talismans? I haven't seen a tutorial for it but I'm 8 hours in...did I miss something?
@Mario Christian okay so it's automatic I don't need to do anything, thanks Mario! 🙂 have a good weekend
Best tip is save save save. You don't wanna die and have to back track a whole hour and a half.
Focus on building either magic or physical Nahobino. The mc can be pretty powerful if you don't try to build a jack of all traits and only focus on one specific stat.
thanks
aaaa i still dont know whether to go magic or strength im leaning toward magic tho
the Matador is in there along with them fiends
So yeah I'm already 20 hrs in the game and I need your help 😕
Any good build guide?
I’m still pretty early but Can you save demons and their skills in a registry?
Yes in the demon compendium in the world of shadows!
Which is the stats cap? 100?
What build?
Didn't guard on first boss used Dark Damping gem
Especially playing on hard, and especially especially against bosses…
_use nullifiers_
The boss will usually have one attack that’s more powerful, and it seems like they use that attack most often when they are in the crit-state.
Make sure the last thing you do on your turn is use the nullifier that blocks that damage type.
Not only will your party be unhurt, the bosses turn will end (or at least get shortened, if there are multiple enemies).
You can carry three of each type.
They’re also useful for covering the weaknesses of your demons against tougher regular monsters.
This is my first ever game in the series and I started on hard.
It’s been a bitch, but rewarding as I figured it out.
(Doesn’t help that I’m simultaneously playing dragon quest XI S, and forgot to put on the setting that stops weak enemies giving Exp. It’s almost impossible not to overlevel in an already easy game. I do love it, though!)
I never block since i usually find something more meaningful to do on my press turn.
It’s only for when the enemy is in crit state. Even then, it really makes the most sense when you have a varied enemies attacking and can’t reliably negate them all with the item.
Situational, but at least on Hard, it can save you and end a fight faster than anything else you might’ve done with that press turn
@@joearnold6881 I'm playing hard on the first playthrough and I find buff/debuff skills more efficient at defense than block is. Block is definitely like you said, the last thing I'd pick if I'm out of options but not because of critical states. I don't really fear them the same way outside of a few exceptions like 8 round attacks because I really had no items to negate their multiple rounds.
Spyglasses for those teardrop demons, than hit their weaknes.
DAMPENERS! SO IMPORTANT
My tip is don't register a demon unless you really like its skill set or are doing a custom build. It's ridiculously in the early game to summon from the compendium.
To be fair, compendium summoning is supposed to be the ultima ratio anyway. Going out into the world and "catching" the demon is far cheaper.
What?
No.
Registering is free.
You want the most up to date list of demons possible in case you need one for fusing (you’ll have a higher level, more skill choices, and better stats for the resulting demon)
It’s a free resource. You’re keeping track of your demons as they’ve improved/been improved by you, and you get to reuse that stronger demon with picked skills (which can have been inherited from other demons even) every time you fuse.
Even if you only rarely use them, for some reason (it only gets expensive if you’re buying all the demons in a fuse), you want the best ones available for when you do.
There’s _no_ downside to registering every time you get the chance.
Limiting just hurts yourself.
Separating the corn out of my shit is a harder puzzle than what this game has to offer.
so SMT V is like SMT III + SMT IV
Something always felt off to me about the battles in the trailers… I realize now it’s because enemies don’t make noises when they are attacked. It’s a little detail, but for a game that is so much more battle heavy than persona 5, it would have gone a long way. Another thing that would have gone a long way too is utilizing the face buttons for the hud like in persona 5 rather than just copying tms’ bland UI.
The attacks certainly feel as powerful as they do in P5, but that's minor thing
im seeing enraged smt fans coming
@@BuruKyu Saying all this because I want smt to do as good or better than p5. I know smt and persona are different, but I still think it’s fair to compare the elements they share. I do think there are some things from smt 5 that should be added to future persona games too like being able to jump and the battle animations.
@@t_bone2145 of course, i agree with that
Nuwa is mad easy when you have taunt on shiisa
thumbnail demon name pls?
When can you get Nuwa? Not trying to cause spoilers. That is my number 1 priority for demon collection.
yes
@Mario Christian of course
there’s a DLC that costs £2.69($?) that raises the spawn rate of those sperm looking enemies that drop glory items. Makes getting glory alottt easier than relying on mimins
Nah
Ain't nobody got time to pay to win.
I am so surprise some people already have 60+ hours.
he has a review copy
I have to wait two weeks before I can afford this game! It’s killing me, but I bet it’ll be worth it!
"uh-poth-ee-oh-sis"
Save😢😢😢
So this is the game for pokemon players who want a difficult game
I'm halfway through the game and I finally look up a guide to stop sucking, but than again I feel proud of how far I am on my first smt game
See why cant the SMT fandom be this nice,I tried saying I wanted to play SMT3 but they told me to not even try because its nothing like persona....I know that 😦
Fuckem. Play your heart out my dude
Essence is broken I beat smt 5 with a Jack Frost who killed everything in seconds lol
Really? lol
Me too but with black frost
What’s your build?
My god it piles up
pc release plez?
Everyone keeps saying this game is hard, am I just playing the wrong game or are y'all not Mitama farming?
SMT IV was a bitch compared to SMT V, lots of changes compared to IV/Apocalypse, basically Nocturne 2
Dude Nuwa is super annoying. All my demons r lvl 22 with fire skills but it's still not enough
Who tf doesnt post or split the video into chapters? bruh
Just finished the game, never played an Atlus game before. Not sure why these tips are needed, they're just basic common sense gameplay features which you naturally discover and figure out by simply playing yourself. It's not like it's any complicated either compared to something like Pathfinder: WotR as an example.
Wtf is megatin that he keeps bringing up lol
dont tell me what to do i know more than u