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I'm not that familiar with PRS lingo so it's the first I've heard of the "Oklahoma Special" you guys talked about between 11:03-13:00 . I agree people try to get way too creative for their first rifle build though. I certainly did (I'm a goofy moron with a carbon fiber barrel) and I'm in the process of selling it to fund a rifle I won't regret. Just go to the Precision Rifle Blog and look at the What The Pros Use section. Pick stuff towards the top of each category and move on. I've got a Lone Peak Fuzion / Benchmark barrel / Foundation rifle on order right now and I'm sure it'll work great.
Thank you both for another great , informative talk . Lots of great information to digest and learn from . Hopefully one day I will have gathered enough information to try a match myself . Till then remember the only time to brag about having the smallest one is at the range....with a target in your hand .🤔🍻🍻🍻
I have been using the Eric Cortina method for load development at 100 yards for over a decade now. I have always been able to devlope a load that shoots well. Yes some perform better than others but they all come in and shoot well at 1000 yards (at least 1 MOA). However in our sport, F-Class Open, half MOA is pretty common with quarter minute guns often on the line so EVERYTHING comes into play and showing up at the 1000 yard line.
In the 1:27min mark or so.. when they talk about the old school way of shooting a big rifle to get used to the recoil. I would suggest the other alternative approach.. if you plan on shooting long range, learn to shoot with an accurate small gun or low BC like a 6br or dasher to help force you to read wind right off the get go. It’s like going up to bat, taking practice swings with a weighted bat so you can swing faster and easier when the time comes
Yes bullets are the expensive piece of the puzzle! Here in Canada, $60 a box for Hornady Match . So 10 boxes(200 rounds) is $600 for a weekend competition. And not a lot of savings especially for those new to the game to reload. Great content Thanks 🤙
Are you saying it is $60 a box for 20 complete cartridges or just the bullets? Idk what the reloading scene is like in Canada but, even with the high component prices here in the U.S., it costs maybe $1 per round to reload 6.5 Creedmoor, for example.
@@warrenhumphrey3956 It depends on the bullets. Even Hornady ELD-Ms are ~ $0.46 and I have more than 10 firings on my Lapua brass right now and no signs of wear. Say a lb of powder is around $45 and you use 42 grains of powder per round. That's $0.27 per round for powder. Say your brass is $1 per and you use it 10 times, that's $0.10 per round. Primers are about $0.12 now (which is ridiculous). Anyway, you get $0.46+$0.27+$0.10+$0.12 = $0.95/round.
Looking up and down the line, best and most consistent shooters are retired or nearly retired with grownup kids. Time is precious in the earning years, especially if you got a late start.
@@albertcapizzo1332 okay.. not PRS bc its literally gun yoga and requires one to be flexible hold awkward positions, but benchrest and f-class [open] its no question. Also didn't imply you HAD to be older, just that that it helps... c'mon
@@albertcapizzo1332 won't mention that average target is like... 2 MOA which is a barn door meaning, you can be competitive with factory ammo... and that saves time. Takes me several hours to load 100.
So, just to confirm the grocery list: Impact, foundation, bartlein, ZCO, Sphur, 6GT Lapua brass, 105 Berger Hybrid, h4350, mdt triple pull, mdt aics mags, schmedium game changer, EC tuner. Did I miss anything?
@@JacobTerherst I actually really like the tuner brake he did with without warning. However a tuner ain't going to make you a better shooter. the 26 pound Oklahoma special rifle will however cover if you have sloppy fundamentals.
Morgun King is the host of the Mythology of Marksmanship Podcast. Check it out here: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/mythology-of-marksmanship/id1621991698
Hey Erik you spoke about 'Good ES' OK so what is good ES for a 1K shooting... 15 fps? more? less? thanks
Great interview. Glad to hear I am not the only person still plinking at targets with a 7 Rem Mag.
That right there is great info. The process after the stable position is achieved.
I'm not that familiar with PRS lingo so it's the first I've heard of the "Oklahoma Special" you guys talked about between 11:03-13:00 . I agree people try to get way too creative for their first rifle build though. I certainly did (I'm a goofy moron with a carbon fiber barrel) and I'm in the process of selling it to fund a rifle I won't regret. Just go to the Precision Rifle Blog and look at the What The Pros Use section. Pick stuff towards the top of each category and move on. I've got a Lone Peak Fuzion / Benchmark barrel / Foundation rifle on order right now and I'm sure it'll work great.
Thanks for the awesome podcast!
Thanks for listening
Great discussion as always 👍
Thanks for listening
thanks for the information from all the shooters
You bet
Thank you both for another great , informative talk . Lots of great information to digest and learn from . Hopefully one day I will have gathered enough information to try a match myself . Till then remember the only time to brag about having the smallest one is at the range....with a target in your hand .🤔🍻🍻🍻
Go shoot a match. Thats where you learn. Not on CZcams. Trust me
You can do it!
I have been using the Eric Cortina method for load development at 100 yards for over a decade now. I have always been able to devlope a load that shoots well. Yes some perform better than others but they all come in and shoot well at 1000 yards (at least 1 MOA). However in our sport, F-Class Open, half MOA is pretty common with quarter minute guns often on the line so EVERYTHING comes into play and showing up at the 1000 yard line.
Great review!! 👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you!
In the 1:27min mark or so.. when they talk about the old school way of shooting a big rifle to get used to the recoil. I would suggest the other alternative approach.. if you plan on shooting long range, learn to shoot with an accurate small gun or low BC like a 6br or dasher to help force you to read wind right off the get go. It’s like going up to bat, taking practice swings with a weighted bat so you can swing faster and easier when the time comes
You should upload these as a podcast please
Yes bullets are the expensive piece of the puzzle! Here in Canada, $60 a box for Hornady Match . So 10 boxes(200 rounds) is $600 for a weekend competition. And not a lot of savings especially for those new to the game to reload. Great content
Thanks 🤙
Are you saying it is $60 a box for 20 complete cartridges or just the bullets? Idk what the reloading scene is like in Canada but, even with the high component prices here in the U.S., it costs maybe $1 per round to reload 6.5 Creedmoor, for example.
$60 for complete rounds on average. $47-$65 depending on store or sale
Bullets alone are $56/100 and up depending on type and weight for 6.5mm, new brass is over a $1 a round plus powder and primers.
@@warrenhumphrey3956 It depends on the bullets. Even Hornady ELD-Ms are ~ $0.46 and I have more than 10 firings on my Lapua brass right now and no signs of wear. Say a lb of powder is around $45 and you use 42 grains of powder per round. That's $0.27 per round for powder. Say your brass is $1 per and you use it 10 times, that's $0.10 per round. Primers are about $0.12 now (which is ridiculous). Anyway, you get $0.46+$0.27+$0.10+$0.12 = $0.95/round.
Definitely in the long run it’s cheaper to reload! But getting started is a big hit $$$
You’re a lizard, huh?- freakin hilarious
Yeah. lol
Put these on audio podcasts!!!!!
Looking up and down the line, best and most consistent shooters are retired or nearly retired with grownup kids. Time is precious in the earning years, especially if you got a late start.
Not the case in PRS. Does Morgan look retired?
@@albertcapizzo1332 okay.. not PRS bc its literally gun yoga and requires one to be flexible hold awkward positions, but benchrest and f-class [open] its no question. Also didn't imply you HAD to be older, just that that it helps... c'mon
@@albertcapizzo1332 won't mention that average target is like... 2 MOA which is a barn door meaning, you can be competitive with factory ammo... and that saves time. Takes me several hours to load 100.
👍🏻👍🏻
So, just to confirm the grocery list: Impact, foundation, bartlein, ZCO, Sphur, 6GT Lapua brass, 105 Berger Hybrid, h4350, mdt triple pull, mdt aics mags, schmedium game changer, EC tuner.
Did I miss anything?
10,000 hours of practice and repetition. And a blank check! 😅
Where can I get some of that Lapua 6GT brass
6BR/Dasher, Tangent Theta, Varget and Walls Rifles…no tuner needed.
@@JacobTerherst I actually really like the tuner brake he did with without warning. However a tuner ain't going to make you a better shooter. the 26 pound Oklahoma special rifle will however cover if you have sloppy fundamentals.
What is an Oklahoma Special Rifle.....is that slang for a Surgeon Rifle? @@khopkins9632
Go shoot King of Coal Canyon in Raton, NM 1-2 June if you want a mostly prone PRS match.
I may have to go there, just to get my toes in the water...I've got a buddy that works there too, cool place.
What Bullet Pointer do you use
He runs a 156gr Eol in a 6.5 Creed in PRS! 👀
I have 1500 156’s and 600 pieces of Lapua brass ready for my new 6.5 Creedmoor 7.5 twist barrel.
Ken Sanoski and David Preston shoot rifles built by Walls Rifles.
I have to pay 1600$ for a barrel blank in the Netherlands. Crazy
Get some.
I pay for the right to complain, it’s called taxes.