Eurovision 2023 | Results vs odds

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  • Official Eurovision 2023 results, including the semi-finals, compared to the odds. Are you happy with them? Comment!
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    Eurovision 2023 entries:
    ◾ Albania: Albina & Familja Kelmendi - “Duje” (Festivali i Këngës 61)
    ◾ Armenia: Brunette - “Future Lover” (internal pick)
    ◾ Australia: Voyager - “Promise” (internal pick)
    ◾ Austria: Teya & Salena - “Who The Hell Is Edgar?” (internal pick)
    ◾ Azerbaijan: TuralTuranX - “Tell Me More” (internal pick)
    ◾ Belgium: Gustaph - "Because of You" (Eurosong 2023)
    ◾ Croatia: Let 3 - “Mama SC!” (Dora 2023)
    ◾ Cyprus: Andrew Lambrou - "Break A Broken Heart" (internal pick)
    ◾ Czechia: Vesna - “My Sister’s Crown” (ESCZ 2023)
    ◾ Denmark: Reiley - “Breaking My Heart” (Dansk Melodi Grand Prix 2023)
    ◾ Estonia: ALIKA - “Bridges” (Eesti Laul 2023)
    ◾ Finland: Käärijä - “Cha Cha Cha” (Uuden Musikiin Kilpailu 2023)
    ◾ France: La Zarra - "Évidemment" (internal pick)
    ◾ Georgia: Iru Khechanovi - “Echo” (internal pick)
    ◾ Germany: Lord of the Lost - “Blood & Glitter” (Unser Lied für Liverpool)
    ◾ Greece: Victor Vernicos - “What They Say” (internal pick)
    ◾ Iceland: Diljá - “Power” (Söngvakeppnin 2023)
    ◾ Ireland: Wild Youth - “We Are One” (The Late Late Show: Eurosong)
    ◾ Israel: Noa Kirel - “Unicorn” (internal pick)
    ◾ Italy: Marco Mengoni - “Due Vite” (Sanremo 73)
    ◾ Latvia: Sudden Lights - “Aija” (Supernova 2023)
    ◾ Lithuania: Monika Linkyte - “Stay” (Pabandom Iš Naujo 2023)
    ◾ Malta: The Busker - “Dance Our Own Party” (Malta Eurovision Song Contest 2023)
    ◾ Moldova: Pasha Parfeni - “Soarele si Luna” (Etapa Naționalǎ 2023)
    ◾ Netherlands: Mia Nicolai & Dion Cooper - “Burning Daylight” (internal pick)
    ◾ Norway: Alessandra Mele - “Queen of Kings” (Melodi Grand Prix 2023)
    ◾ Poland: Blanka - “Solo” (Tu Bije Serce Europy 2023)
    ◾ Portugal: Mimicat - “Ai Coração” (Festival da Canção 2023)
    ◾ Romania: Theodor Andrei - “D.G.T (Off & On)” (Selecția Naționalǎ 2023)
    ◾ San Marino: Piqued Jacks - “Like An Animal” (Una Voce per San Marino 2023)
    ◾ Serbia: Luke Black - “Samo Mi Se Spava” (Pesma za Evroviziju 2023)
    ◾ Slovenia: Joker Out - “Carpe Diem” (internal pick)
    ◾ Sweden: Loreen - “Tattoo” (Melodifestivalen 2023)
    ◾ Switzerland: Remo Forrer - “Watergun” (internal pick)
    ◾ Spain: Blanca Paloma - “Eaea” (Benidorm Fest 2023)
    ◾ Ukraine: Tvorchi - “Heart of Steel” (Vidbir 2023)
    ◾ United Kingdom: Mae Muller - “I Wrote A Song” (internal pick)
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Komentáře • 180

  • @MrSpnsh
    @MrSpnsh  Před 11 měsíci +24

    Do you agree with this year's results? Comment!

    • @Crazytrain2015
      @Crazytrain2015 Před 11 měsíci +16

      I am just happy that my country came 1st place. I thought Finland would win the contest, but I was wrong

    • @parishitegermain2936
      @parishitegermain2936 Před 11 měsíci +7

      Not all of it but happy that my Poland did ok despite the hate before and Sweden perfect winner 🥳🎊 sad for low scores of Armenia and Czechia though

    • @Bellas1717
      @Bellas1717 Před 11 měsíci +19

      It must be because I’m not European that I cannot fathom why Sweden scored so highly, let alone won. Lyrics just a collation of cliches from every song ever. Average voice. Average stage performance. What did I miss? Love to have someone explain to me.

    • @paquox6827
      @paquox6827 Před 11 měsíci +16

      I hate the voting, not only boring to watch, but I still fon't understand why Loreen was so hyped #Notmywinner

    • @satsuma1754
      @satsuma1754 Před 11 měsíci +10

      @@parishitegermain2936 poland was terrible , probably the worst in this competition

  • @S-Korean
    @S-Korean Před 11 měsíci +203

    At the beginning I was a bit disappointed that Estonia wasn’t getting enough attention, which made it unsure if she would even make the finals. But hey! In the end, 8th place ain’t bad . Proud of her👍

    • @angli3865
      @angli3865 Před 11 měsíci +5

      Estonia was basic af

    • @Jahommmmmmtirrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
      @Jahommmmmmtirrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Před 11 měsíci +15

      @@angli3865 sweden literally won

    • @intreoo
      @intreoo Před 11 měsíci +9

      I agree. IMO it's a beautiful song.

    • @giovanniscg8540
      @giovanniscg8540 Před 11 měsíci +6

      She brought the best jury result for Estonia since 2012 ❤️

    • @Kuzyn
      @Kuzyn Před 11 měsíci +5

      Estonia was like a song from some Disney top movie. Her voice is great and powerful.

  • @sirum3n262
    @sirum3n262 Před 11 měsíci +110

    Good on Latvia for proving everyone wrong and almost qualifying instead of coming near last like odds suggested, people actually heard the song and recognised the quality instead of just tossing it off!
    Hopefully this close qualification doesn’t turn Sudden Lights off from continuing their career, they’ve got a huge amount of support (that 8 points from “rest of the world” says a lot about their reach). Also hoping Latvia qualifies one day again!

    • @NJKAZ2015
      @NJKAZ2015 Před 11 měsíci

      not to sound mean but I find latvia's song SO boring

    • @TASSnoop
      @TASSnoop Před 11 měsíci

      @@NJKAZ2015 Thats your opinion and thats fair. For me it is currently my absolutely favorite song and I listen to it on repeat all the time. I don't think they would have had much chance if they had qualified, but I'm still sad they didn't, so seeing them outperform their odds is great

  • @gerardkhachaturyan4814
    @gerardkhachaturyan4814 Před 11 měsíci +87

    Never expected the Midfield will be so tight, especially from Czechia (10th) to Austria (15th) which was only 10 points between them.

    • @yuijo2772
      @yuijo2772 Před 11 měsíci +4

      Even from 22nd place to 16th the midfield is tight 28 points

  • @unknownredditor
    @unknownredditor Před 11 měsíci +123

    This is a crime that Malta is that low. I mean last place in the semi with 3 points??? poor Malta and The Busker. The song was so nice, and it had one of the best stagings of the year imo. I will never understand how that happened.
    honorable mentions of other things I'm disappointed and shocked about this year:
    1. Spain, France and Slovenia finishing that low. Underrated legends, we won't forget y'all.
    2. Georgia NQing, and Poland finishing 3rd. 3rd??? what were y'all thinking?

    • @unknownredditor
      @unknownredditor Před 11 měsíci +10

      just clearing up, I meant 3rd in the semi

    • @nicolaslengrand4240
      @nicolaslengrand4240 Před 11 měsíci +9

      @@unknownredditor semi finals are televote based, and nobody ever vote for malta, malta always qualified thanks to the jury vote. Destiny's the only exception

    • @kennet7837
      @kennet7837 Před 11 měsíci +17

      It did not help that Malta had to perform from position #2 ("the death slot"). And before people bring up "But Armenia easily qualified from this position", the second semi final was significantly weaker and Armenia followed a weak vocal performance from Denmark.

    • @triflomastera4882
      @triflomastera4882 Před 11 měsíci

      Georgia was trash, didn't deserve to qualify. A toddler could write better lyrics.

    • @xjessed-
      @xjessed- Před 11 měsíci +6

      Malta was so robbed

  • @mrdarkmagic8437
    @mrdarkmagic8437 Před 11 měsíci +101

    Estionia and Lithuania slaying those odds!

  • @mikeymata
    @mikeymata Před 11 měsíci +78

    So proud of Monika and Alika

  • @ks4733
    @ks4733 Před 11 měsíci +17

    So happy that Cyprus sent the bookmakers home

  • @erinnadia0409
    @erinnadia0409 Před 11 měsíci +34

    I'm still salty about Georgia, Latvia and Malta not qualifying for the final 💔

  • @Tejiknasten
    @Tejiknasten Před 11 měsíci +39

    I'm happy that Czechia and Lithuania ended up at the left hand on the scorebord. They were great, really.

  • @logi-a
    @logi-a Před 4 dny +2

    The winning odds aren’t something to measure placements though, it would be better to look at the top 10 chance

  • @mikeymata
    @mikeymata Před 11 měsíci +298

    Spain and France so robbed

    • @erikberg8311
      @erikberg8311 Před 11 měsíci +48

      Lol No, I actually felt pain in my ears listening to Spain😂

    • @imkinga6806
      @imkinga6806 Před 11 měsíci +14

      ​@@erikberg8311 exactly!! Same

    • @iamterrytv
      @iamterrytv Před 11 měsíci +3

      and Austria 😢

    • @4gamezz155
      @4gamezz155 Před 11 měsíci +8

      Portugal too

    • @parishitegermain2936
      @parishitegermain2936 Před 11 měsíci +17

      Spain was horrible. I had to mute as my speakers nearly exploded 🤯

  • @rlsfam123
    @rlsfam123 Před 11 měsíci +10

    The most suprising one for me was Estonia

  • @otowndude08
    @otowndude08 Před 11 měsíci +6

    I was disappointed Georgia didn't qualify and how few points Austria got from the public

  • @Chamusam02
    @Chamusam02 Před 11 měsíci +22

    Oh Spain... it hurts

    • @MrSpnsh
      @MrSpnsh  Před 11 měsíci +17

      I just don't understand it. In which world does Eaea deserve a televote last place?

    • @Wailmur
      @Wailmur Před 11 měsíci +6

      ​@@MrSpnsh it was a pain to hear

    • @lip8781
      @lip8781 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@MrSpnsh I would say because it was a veeeery extra song and performance. It’s highly cultural and traditional, and that is great, but it’s note everyone’s taste. I had a feeling that something was missing. It was very one-note, I felt there was no real climax to the performance, not even when she was going off on her last note. It takes a certain spice in such avantgarde songs in order to resonate with a broader audience and I (and apparently many others) felt that she failed to capture that.

    • @EscDIDI-Sp
      @EscDIDI-Sp Před 11 měsíci

      Me too :(

  • @juratemazeikyte8766
    @juratemazeikyte8766 Před 11 měsíci +10

    My personal opinion about the final performances:
    1. Austria - I adore this song and vote for it, but the live version still lacks something. Energy level also could be higher and Poe Poe part louder (maybe bad TV translation).
    2. Portugal - it was a stronger performance than in Semi. Everything depended on personal taste, but Mimicat created winner vibes!
    3. Switzerland - nothing special, catchy rhythm and easy meaningful lyrics. Wanted more vocal variety, because he is capable.
    4.Poland - great visual performance and catchy song. She made the best she could do, still the vocal is weak. Song created for masses, expected a good televote result.
    5. Serbia -good visual performance, but... in semi I heard him better, in the final was hard to understand the words. Maybe sound translation problem, but you can't vote for a song which you don't hear.
    6. France - all the song I was asking what happened to La Zarra? It was good, but not so good vocally as I expected. She somehow sounded not enough powerful. And TV camera angles for visual part was also not perfect.
    7. Cyprus - well done, but would be better to go not so safe - Andrew is good singer, too much himself backs are not needed. Still solid performance, just nothing new.
    8. Spain - I expected more from visual part - more meanings and longer focus on Spanish culture accents, now looked as a little mess. Shouting and screaming was never popular between masses, still she is a great vocalist. Somehow got a feel, that it flop, actually liked her pre-parties performances more.
    9.Sweden - in Semi and in her winning performance she sounded more sincere and better. In final one was too strict and not enough emotionally. Still one of the best entries of the night with winner vibes. Strange choice to put Sweden after Spain, I think it hurt Spain.
    10. Albania - performance was good, the song itself not for everyone. Family label won some additional votes for sure.
    11. Italy - I unexpected felt the 3rd time winner vibes and even vote for it, didn't plan that! Simplicity and extraordinary Marco work with camera angles won me over:) And vocally it was such emotional and impactful performance! Better performance then Sweden; Sweden song itself is more memorable.
    12. Estonia sounded good, and Alika finally found her emotions:) It was a great performance, liked more than in Semi.
    13. Finland - great energy, originality, charisma. Much better than in Semi, were the 2nd part sounded not well at all. He nailed it on time!
    14. Czech Republic - one more great performance with catchy rhythm. So much improvement from pre-parties!
    15. Australia - they were great, I planned to vote for Germany, but gave all the votes to Australia! Love the energy:)
    16. Belgium - liked his semi performance more, but still it was impactful and the backs fantastic!
    17. Armenia - sounded good, looked good, performed good. Got sacked down a little by Belgium and Moldova energies.
    18. Moldova - sounded better than in semi, i heard the words this time, still some parts was not enough clear. Could have more energy still and some parts were too repetitive.
    19. Ukraine - great visual performance, but the vocals wasn't the best - i heard them performing this song better.
    20. Norway - better than in Semi, she managed to perform the best version. Very catchy song.
    21. Germany - felt disappointed. Sounded not always as I expected, visual performance was too simple and lack some kind of energy...There was not the best performance as it could be.
    22. Lithuania - liked her Semi performance more. She sounded not so sincere as always, too technical. Liked ethno visuals, wanted to see more.
    23. Israel - great performance, but for me - I still want more meaningful lyrics. One of the best entries together with Sweden, Finland, Italy, Portugal, Australia of the night.
    24. Slovenia- simple but catchy, energetic show. Got a little blanded by Israel and felt that they need to do something more crazy...
    25. Croatia - not my cup, but they sounded better than in Semi.
    26. United Kingdom - expected worse. The song is catchy, lyrics meaningful, visual performance was great, and she sounded not bad - huge improvement as Blanca, but for this song, we need stronger and more impactful vocal performance, to be on Blanca level is not enough, or you need to sing an easier song as Blanca.

    • @swedishbloke
      @swedishbloke Před 11 měsíci +2

      It doesn’t matter where Spain was put, their song was…. Special… really a acquired taste…

    • @ivanmacgar6447
      @ivanmacgar6447 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@swedishbloke I agree. I'm Spanish myself, and when you actually get into the context of Spain's entry and performance, you really realise it's hands down the best performance Spain has sent since 2000. And yes, it was much better than SloMo. But SloMo was much more reachable for an international audience, so I can kinda understand why it got 200+ points both in jury and televoting while EaEa was last in televoting.

    • @StarsTubeSarah
      @StarsTubeSarah Před 11 měsíci

      1. Austria (my fav) - oh interesting :) I personally prefer the live version much better than the studio version of the song because tthe last (live) chorus is incredibly impressive.

  • @chrisappels9190
    @chrisappels9190 Před 11 měsíci

    First video of you i watched. Wanna say a massive thank you for putting JOWST in the outro, still my favourite song in eurovision!!

  • @williamsoule9067
    @williamsoule9067 Před 11 měsíci +6

    Czechia 2022 🤝 Spain 2023
    Somehow getting only 5 televote
    points despite being masterpieces

    • @ivanmacgar6447
      @ivanmacgar6447 Před 11 měsíci

      Czechia in 2022 was screwed up by running order, Spain 2023 was actually so much better than Spain 2022 but you actually had to feel it.

  • @tanyaozify6710
    @tanyaozify6710 Před 11 měsíci +34

    Why Germany last?! Ridiculous.

    • @nicsu1127
      @nicsu1127 Před 11 měsíci +1

      cuz they sang in english

    • @XquantumX-_-
      @XquantumX-_- Před 11 měsíci +5

      ​@Nicsu112 nothing to do with them singing in English, they sent a bad song(again). If they didn't have a televote which stands for majority of the points in their national selection they would've done so much better

    • @ivanmacgar6447
      @ivanmacgar6447 Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@XquantumX-_- I mean, Lord of the Lost wasn't even among the worst 5 performances of the night. And I have to remind you if they didn't send Lord of the Lost, they would've sent Ikke Hüftgold instead... which would absolutely have been an obvious last place instead.

    • @XquantumX-_-
      @XquantumX-_- Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@ivanmacgar6447 If they didn't have a televote with that much power they would've sent neither one of them

  • @CavaliereBlu
    @CavaliereBlu Před 11 měsíci +2

    I'm happy that it ended like this and not as the people thought of. My favorite songs of the edition still didn't get the first positions, but in my opinion this is just the rightest order that i could get.

  • @koguma8823
    @koguma8823 Před 11 měsíci +5

    SO proud of alika

  • @darkemilia
    @darkemilia Před 11 měsíci +10

    Spain and France absolutely robbed, Portugal underrated

  • @malaj7519
    @malaj7519 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Spain was a skydive crash even though the oerformance was perfect 😢

  • @ophiolatrix
    @ophiolatrix Před 6 měsíci

    Not to bring back half-a-year-old discourse but man this was a weird year. Was expecting France top 5 and Austria top 10. Belgium and Australia were nice surprises though!

  • @ayumisanyuki7116
    @ayumisanyuki7116 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Latvia is obviously 27th, of course 2nd semi got more points.

  • @HeatherGg15
    @HeatherGg15 Před 11 měsíci

    Outside of top two, the results were SO WEIRD this year!!!! Like everything just felt so out of place :/

  • @odeutles
    @odeutles Před 9 měsíci

    bejbas last odds place was 12thh 😂😂

  • @idogonen3075
    @idogonen3075 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I'm sorry to say but this is extremely flawed. The betting odds rankings are only chances of winning, not the actual end position. So you could have a sing that is very low in the betting odds to win, but achieves a much higher result in the end.

  • @vadymiks
    @vadymiks Před 11 měsíci

    Jowst in the end 🔥

  • @mariadevaux5830
    @mariadevaux5830 Před 11 měsíci +5

    It's a shame this show!😢😢😢😢

  • @HyuGarona
    @HyuGarona Před 11 měsíci

    Betting shouldn't be allowed in the first place, since it highly affects the results in of itself.

  • @deadyui8199
    @deadyui8199 Před 11 měsíci +8

    I dont know but how is it real, that the comeback artists like Italy, Sweden, Belgium, Lithuania got like their best result. Im not including Moldova, but Sweden and Italy were overrated!

    • @ivanmacgar6447
      @ivanmacgar6447 Před 11 měsíci

      Sweden and Italy (and Ukraine and even Norway too to a smaller extent) are always overrated.
      They could send a bunch of stray cats on stage or a person taking a dump in an on-stage toilet and they will be top 5/top 7 anyway.

    • @stefaanverstraeten9291
      @stefaanverstraeten9291 Před 11 měsíci

      Gustaph wasn't really a comeback artist. He did backing vocals for Senek and Hooverphonic, not on the stage.

  • @gainal9080
    @gainal9080 Před 11 měsíci

    The fact the UK was top 10 in odds lmao. People are delusional.

  • @Esc_Sotos_King
    @Esc_Sotos_King Před 11 měsíci

    Israel had 6% in 3rd place before the final not in 4th

  • @gabrielmerencko9149
    @gabrielmerencko9149 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Spain as my fave flop

  • @jeandelanoe-yf5dr
    @jeandelanoe-yf5dr Před 11 měsíci

    😎🎧🎧🎧🎧 POLOGNE 17 POINTS. 🎧🎧🎧🎧 🇫🇷 FRANCIA 5 POINTS

  • @booms4337
    @booms4337 Před 11 měsíci +7

    For me,
    Spain and France will never win again Eurovision.

    • @saryixxx7261
      @saryixxx7261 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Spain and France should leave eurovision

    • @EscDIDI-Sp
      @EscDIDI-Sp Před 11 měsíci

      @@saryixxx7261why?? I don’t see the reason..😢

    • @user-kj9hk
      @user-kj9hk Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@EscDIDI-SpI will speak for France because I am French. In France Eurovision is not appreciated, the people and the media are waiting for the slightest opportunity to criticize this contest. But the worst is not that, the worst is that France spends about 1 million euros in this unpopular competition while our country is in crisis especially in this period.

    • @miharu060786
      @miharu060786 Před 11 měsíci

      @@user-kj9hk like 1 million euros would save your country :D :D :D ESC is popular in France only when you do not flop.

    • @user-kj9hk
      @user-kj9hk Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@miharu060786 Stupid dude, I didn't say 1 million will save France but France is in crisis and we should use the money to help the country instead of spending in this unpopular contest even when France doesn't flop😆. Try to read my comment better next time thank you :D :D :D

  • @matanfarber
    @matanfarber Před 11 měsíci

    So happy for Noa 👑❤️ 3 place 🇮🇱🦄

  • @gonzaloceron5497
    @gonzaloceron5497 Před 26 dny

    Que injusto lo de España

  • @vincentkalinowski94
    @vincentkalinowski94 Před 11 měsíci

    Congrats to Lithuania for proving everyone wrong

  • @leobal5497
    @leobal5497 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Norway had to be on top 3 at least

  • @AAnjou33
    @AAnjou33 Před 11 měsíci +2

    The best TOP 5 in ESC history

    • @BertoLaDK
      @BertoLaDK Před 11 měsíci

      What about 2021?

    • @AAnjou33
      @AAnjou33 Před 11 měsíci

      @@BertoLaDK For me not at all. From 2021 top 5 I only like Maneskin, the other songs from top 5 were in my bottom 10.

  • @a01n02
    @a01n02 Před 11 měsíci +52

    Underrated :
    - UK 🇬🇧
    - Spain 🇪🇦
    - France 🇫🇷
    - Armenia 🇦🇲
    - Austria 🇦🇹
    Overrated (but I'm happy for them)
    - Australia 🇦🇺
    - Lithuania 🇱🇹
    - Albania 🇦🇱
    - Belgium 🇧🇪
    - Italy 🇮🇹

    • @imkinga6806
      @imkinga6806 Před 11 měsíci +13

      UK did very poorly so I'm not surprised that it took 25th place and Spain was unheard of.

    • @michaelcphotography1
      @michaelcphotography1 Před 11 měsíci

      UK is utter garbage, singing is appauling and so was France and Austria, song themselves are alright so the place they got is fair

    • @Medematiques
      @Medematiques Před 11 měsíci +3

      I'm french... And we are overrated!!! 😂 (but I agree that Italy is so overrated each year!)

    • @a01n02
      @a01n02 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@Medematiques Yeaaah... For France I don't really know because the song is so good but her vocals Saturday were meh 😕

    • @Medematiques
      @Medematiques Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@a01n02 I 100% agree! A good song with a bad voice (and a middle finger...)

  • @martin_StF
    @martin_StF Před 11 měsíci

    Sweden manipulated very well. This was the best ESC by songs and one of the worst by voting. Finland was robbed, others too. NO JURIES

  • @sarastrom4041
    @sarastrom4041 Před 11 měsíci +2

    Queen Loreen ❤️❤️❤️🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪🥇🥇🥇

  • @mfcq4987
    @mfcq4987 Před 11 měsíci

    The party part in me loved Finland, the music-loving part in me loved Spain. Obviously, Eurovision spectators are very party people and not at all music lovers.

  • @cakee6216
    @cakee6216 Před 11 měsíci

    Slovenia was robbed...

  • @MyRealNameIsTodd
    @MyRealNameIsTodd Před 11 měsíci

    Georgia was robbed

  • @marijajevtic8638
    @marijajevtic8638 Před 11 měsíci

    Copy paste

  • @themanjack014
    @themanjack014 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Seeing Sudden Lights crying after not qualifying was the greatest thing I’ve ever seen.

  • @tonyfigueiredo6754
    @tonyfigueiredo6754 Před 11 měsíci +16

    I am impartial as I am in North America.. and dont care who won... but Sweden's song should not have even been in the top 10...
    This contest has not been about the best song for a very long time... they need to reduce the weighting of the jury votes as the same "close" countries vote for each other every year... and the juries trade one years votes for promises to vote in return if another country is in contention in the future....
    its always funny how the odds are always 50% for the top country and the other 50 for the rest... so as to ensure that the bookies make their money....
    its not about the song... not been for a long time.... its about the money

    • @PhilipWester
      @PhilipWester Před 11 měsíci +12

      You do realize that the televoters are much worse when it comes to block voting and diaspora voting than the juries are, right? It's just less obvious since the televoting points are given out in giant blocks instead of on a per-country basis. Iceland, Finland, Sweden, Norway and Denmark all had Finland, Sweden and Norway in their top 3s (except Sweden, Norway and Finland when it came to themselves) in the televote, except Finland, who conspicuously gave Norway 12 points and Sweden 0 points. Meanwhile, the Icelandic jury gave Finland 10 points, Sweden 7 points and Norway 4 points.
      The Greek televoters gave Cyprus 12 points but the Greek jury only gave him 4 points. And so on and so on. According to the televoters, Poland was the 3rd best song of the 2nd semi-final and the 8th best song in the grand final. POLAND. Almost every single country in the contest's televoters gave their 12, 10 and 8 points to a country that is a close neighbour or a country with a heavy diaspora population in the local country. Meanwhile, the juries were throwing 12 pointers at Sweden, Italy and Israel from all across Europe, Asia and Australia.
      There's a reason why when Russia was actually allowed to compete, they were almost always top 10, often top 5, followed by Ukraine whereas the juries were often a bit cool towards their entries. Look into how the televoters vote before speaking on the subject of block voting. The televoters are much worse than the juries, by several magnitudes.

    • @eurovisioninspace
      @eurovisioninspace Před 11 měsíci

      @@PhilipWester I agree with all of this except that Australia gave their 12 jury points to Belgium, not any of the top 3.

    • @zTeaTheCoffee
      @zTeaTheCoffee Před 11 měsíci +2

      Block voting is just as bad in the televote. Removing the televote won't do shit. Seems like being impartial is not the only effect of liivng in North America, since you're clearly also clueless.
      Sweden's song was simply the best song out there. The odds are rarely, if ever, this united on one candidate. The only songs that I can remember having over 40% odds to win Eurovision were Stefania and Arcade, it's usually around 3-4 countries that all have around 20% odds of winning. The only reason Sweden had such high odds this year was cause it was a really weak year for Eurovision. That's also why songs that wouldn't have done so well in other years, such as Bridges and Because of you were able to place so high. The only true contenders were Finland and Sweden.
      Now, the voting is super easily explained, without even considering block voting. Tattoo was an objectively good song, sung by one of the best performers in Eurovision history. To say it shouldn't have even been top 10 is ludicrous, especially since it finished 2nd in televoting. Now, the jury always tends to vote for a more traditionally good song, instead of the more eccentric performances. Since this was a rather weak year, Tattoo was obviously gonna be the heavy favorite among the jury, especially since Loreen is such a good vocalist, which is reflected by the odds. What wasn't expected was the mass televote in favor of Käärijä. I knew, having looked on social media, that Cha Cha Cha was gonna get a lot of televotes. It's pretty obvious, however, that the more traditional jury would overlook a song like that, since it's obviously not as good of a song as Tattoo, relying more on an eyecatching performance and a very likeable performer. This works wonders in televote, who usually don't care as much for the quality of the song if it's entertaining.
      So TL;DR, the factors contributing to the rift between the jury and televote were a particularly weak year, singling out two heavy favorites and a huge contrast between the two songs, meaning one would predictably win the jury vote, while the other wins the televote. There wasn't any conspiracy to win money for bookies, it wasn't the fault of block voting, since the jury actually deviated quite a bit from regular block votes this year, it's unlikely that we'll see these factors combine again.

    • @PhilipWester
      @PhilipWester Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@zTeaTheCoffee Block voting is actually always, always WORSE in the televote than in the jury vote.

    • @PhilipWester
      @PhilipWester Před 11 měsíci

      @@eurovisioninspace I don't see what that has to do with anything I said.

  • @alicebthegachaweirdo8378
    @alicebthegachaweirdo8378 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I can't believe Belgium got 7th place, it should've switched place with Moldova.

  • @gggnepstrius1333
    @gggnepstrius1333 Před 11 měsíci +5

    1st place so bad

  • @alankirby1353
    @alankirby1353 Před 11 měsíci +7

    But sometimes I feel that the odds are reflecting public opinion that’s generated on fan sites like wiwibloggs that are bias and promote acts they like personally promote shamelessly instead of being objective.

    • @PhilipWester
      @PhilipWester Před 11 měsíci +5

      You overestimate how many people even care enough to check out Wiwiblogs or the odds.