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- PFT breaks down the Vikings' selection of J.J. McCarthy in the NFL draft, explaining why Kevin O'Connell & Co. are in a "unique" position with the former Michigan QB. #ProFootballTalk #NFLDraft #JJMcCarthy #MinnesotaVikings
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Minnesota Vikings are in a 'unique position' with J.J. McCarthy | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC
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JJ is the perfect personality fit for Minnesota and they are going to love him.
yeah justin jefferson is great
A personality pick 😂
Nah we should only be taking Melented QBs these days we the future now thats facts dont nobody want these weak armed unathletic QBs them days past
^ You mean white qbs with freckles?
@@anthonyholder7629 🤣
A+ draft from MN
I'd give it an A. A+ if they could have landed Maye or Daniels. JJ is fine, he just doesn't have any elite traits like the top 3 QB's do.
@brandondillman5841 Bullcrap if he doesn't. J.J. can do anything the other QBs can do. Added bonus... he can also lead his team to a National Championship!
@@brandondillman5841his elite traits are 3rd down efficiency, and elite ability to throw on the run. He has under rated arm strength and athleticism. Deep ball needs work and also needs to learn how to layer some of his throws. I agree his ceiling isn’t as high as others but he still the potential to be very good
@@thebighousencaaattendancer478 there's a reason everybody had him as a distant 4th ranked QB in this class. Even the Vikings were desperately trying to get up to 3 for Maye. JJ was the backup plan.
@@davidpeterson725 He had a 27.1% completion percentage on throw outside the numbers in college. That ranked 48th in the nation. His footwork is also a mess right now, so that will need to be addressed. He's also slow when it comes to progressing through his reads and tends to scramble out of clean pockets rather than continue going through his reads. I'm not saying he has no chance to be a good NFL QB. He's just not as talented as the top 3 guys.
As a Vikings fan who has seen a rival (GB) sit their QBs and turn them into stars (Rodgers especially) . . . I'm FINE with sitting JJ until he's ready.
@@MrSilus2000what did he say that was delusional please tell me. Seems to me you didn’t read what he said
@@JohnAC4 I don’t know I think I was hacked. That’s not funny I agree
They are going to LOVE JJ. I am a die hard Browns fan for fifty years but I'm also a Vikings fan now. Not kidding, JJ is special.
Brady and manning weren’t physical specimens, but their leadership and study habits is what made them great. I think the combo of KOC and jj’s winning attitude will do some amazing things.
Of course JJ wanted to play for Minnesota, he said all the QB's wanted to play for Minnesota 😂 you got Jefferson, Addison, TJ, Jones and KOC as the coach
Any rookie qb who didn't want to go to the vikings is crazy, by far the best spot for a rookie qb
Also one of the best tackles in the league protecting his blind side .
Two very good tackles and RB. He’s set up for success. Now they can pay JJ instead of Cousins
@microbe_rz31What does that have to do with the current roster..?
@microbe_rz31so? You think your pom pom waving for your favorite team influenced any game in history ? Anyway only 5 teams have made the playoffs more than the Vikings and no team in the North has won the division more than the Vikings .
JJ was the Vikings guy the entire time, not Maye.
If JJ doesn't play for 2 years in MN all that means is Sam Darnold is balling out. As a Vikings fan I'm fine with the fact that if Darnold is playing well JJ can sit and wait. JJ is only 21 so if he sits a year or two that's OK. If Darnold plays poorly JJ will play if or when that happens.
Why do they assume that the Vikes didn't want JJ? From all I heard running up to the draft, JJ was high on their list.
Any he is the one QB that really fits their scheme. He's already used to running a pro style offense.
It’s all the smoke screens and bs news that teams and media put out to rly keep ppl confused on the draft. I’m sure JJ was the Vikings choice. Why would they trade up for him if he wasn’t?
A lot of that is jockeying for contract negotiations.
@@redt7452because there were teams in front of them that needed QBs? You dense bro?
@@euj0Yes, I am super dense and practically mentally handicapped, that’s why I’m a Vikings fan.
Excellent job by the Vikings!
Sweet spot for JJ. QB-friendly HC and Offense. Elite weapons. Midwest. Go Blue! Will be rooting for him every game except for against the Lions.
Plus, JJ was already coached for three years by a NFL coach, with NFL style schemes. He should adjust pretty well.
Even the off chance we suck this year, we still kept our number one next year and we are getting some comp picks next year too and we will have a ton of cap space too. Futures bright for the Vikings!
A lot was given up to maneuver and get JJ and Turner, but it'll be worth those late round picks that we lost, and like you said, Vikings were getting comp picks for losing Kirk and Hunter so at least we're getting some picks back.
What? The Vikings have an approving defense with some of the top offensive weapons in the game . We went 7-10 with 4 different starting QB's and without The best wideout in the game half the year .....the Vikings are loaded . Besides all that next year the Vikings will have a hundred million in cap space
@@TimAllen-fs2rg not sure if you actually read what I posted. I agree with you. I’m saying if we have injuries to key players and we go 7-10 again or something like that, they did a great job keeping next years first and also we will be getting comp picks and probably some picks from the falcons for tampering. And we have a shit ton of cap space next year. The Vikings are going to be really good if McCarthy pans out for the next 5-10 years.
@@CamberRockerCamber A lot? No. 3 1sts is a lot. A couple mid round picks is not.
@@brettsavelkoul8377 this team will be good with Sam Darnold if you ask me . The defense looks stacked and young . Need some corners and interior help but they are not strapped for cash and could add before camp when other teams are forced to release expensive stars . I think the Flores defense this year will be young and hungry
It’s all about turn overs. Mullins threw for 400 years but also threw 1,032 interceptions in 4 games
Michigan alum here since Schembechler…. McCarthy outstanding and Harbaugh was saying all those glowing words about JJ since before 23 season started!
Love it. Finally getting to build.the roster like they invision... Vikings going to be monster in the next 2-5 years ez
Sure beats Louis Cine
😂😂😂
Lions fan here and I think it's a brilliant pick for the Vikings JJ is going to be a Star ⭐⭐⭐⭐✨✨
Central is looking to become the toughest division in football pretty quick here. Yikes 😬
I look forward to having heavyweight bouts with you
@@chrisjacobsen7265 whatever happens, no Packers. It’s funny now how Bears fans are popping up talking about winning it all. Jesus, go .500 for one season first, please. Division looks nasty which makes it hard for any team in the division to win a Super Bowl. When New England was winning championships, they had a 6-0 start every season with the Jets, Miami, and Buffalo.
@@briangeary7684Central yes but AFC.
I’m skeptical
They have to build a elite o -line So jj mcarthy can do his thing look what Michigan built for him a excellent o-line
Best draft ever for minnesota since i been watching 1998
I hope he has swagger and is a little cocky. We have missed that edge for a long time.
Last year when Michigan lost in the playoffs JJ said “we will be back, I promise that” and then he went 15-0 the following year with a natty.
Now we need a full solid OL
At least we have a QB in JJ that can make things happen with his legs. Way better than Kirk looking like a statute in the pocket.
62: Mph of Joe Milton's fastball at the Combine. He won the velocity contest.
61: Mph of JJ McCarthy's fastball.
JJM can throw a football very hard. He has the physical and mental tools for an NFL quarterback. Now, let's see what a couple ex-NFL QBs can make of this kid.
JJM and Dallas Turner? A+ first round.
I don't get this whole "Average Arm" narrative, that's BS.
@@douglarsen4801the people saying it probably couldn't throw a football five mph
Of all QB drafted, JJ McCarthy is in the right environment to succeed.
People should not forget that JJ came in to Michigan after their worse season in modern history, sat behind a veteran who took them to the Playoffs, beat him out and took them to the Playoffs, followed by a 15-0 Natty. I have no doubt JJ will beat out Darnold and take the Vikings to the Playoffs and beyond.
JJ has lost like 3 games in his life... he is one of those dudes that just... wins. People say his biggest strength is emotional intelligence which is kinda weird to say about a athlete, but he has an X factor that turns teams and teammates into winners.
@@mattburow6018👍👍👍
@@mattburow6018buddy aj macaron won a natty mahomes didn’t your point is brain dead
buddy aj macaron won a natty mahomes didn’t your point is brain dead
Michigan was an all time dominant defense and OL and running game. JJ did nothing. Not even 3,000 yard passing. His top WR had what, 400 yards?? And now he’s supposed to throw the ball 30+ times per game and have two 1,000 yard WRs? This is crazy bro
4:30 Sam will be okay with Kevin O.
Yep. I’m sure Darnold is hyped just being on the Vikings cuz their offensive firepower is some of the best in the league
Devin is super smart and insjghtful.
They need to let McCarthy just settle in and LEARN.
Upfront, tell him, he's most likely going to not be the guy barring an injury.
Edit: I wonder how much advice KOC got from Bill Belichick? They are pretty tight and Belichick had a lot of good things to say last night about McCarthy and he and KOC had a mutual admiration fest on Pat McAfee's draft show.
JJ was a steal at 10... i thought he looked as good as Daniels. He got lucky not being taken by The Falcons at 8...lol.
Anyone who says they want to trade jjetas or trafe for Jefferson is batshit crazy
if the vikings end up with two really good QB's what a great problem to have we could trade one later
These are good problems to have. If Sam balls, he starts. If JJ balls, he starts. Open competition in training camp. Evaluate preseason, then pick the best man. I hope it's JJ lol.
I'm guessing Sam will start the season as the starter. By week 6, we will probably see gtr transition.
Harbaugh said that McCarthy will turn out to be the best QB in this class, not that Chicago would draft him.
No way JJ should start this year unless the season goes really sideways.
Let me add this I do think there qb room is better for sure.
You're right on that.
Bull shit we're a good team minus a qb! Fuck that lay down mentality every one of qb's drafted first will and should start!!
If JJ earns the spot let him play but he has to earn it same way Russell Wilson did his rookie year
@SEHughes08 with all due respect this ain't 12 yrs ago bro and if he can't beat out Sam he's not our guy!!
As a Michigander, I think he will be able to prove himself. Skol Vikings !
Maybe Sam wins the job. I honestly don’t think much of McCarthy, but I believe in coach!
Stop with yakking about Maye. If they wanted him they could’ve had him. Patriots were willing to deal. They didn’t want him. They traded up for McCarthy which means they wanted him. He was not their second choice.
Ridiculous. Don't know why a bunch of clowns think the Pats were trying to trade out just because some frauds in the media say it. The Pats need a qb as bad as anyone. It was always ridiculous that anyone put it out there that they wanted to trade and more ridiculous that some fools would believe it.
Plus, their coach said they wanted the Patriots pick badly. No reason for him to say it if it wasn't true. If it wasn't a true then that coach has some mental issues because it makes no sense to do that.
He’s always stirring the pot. JJ was the guy the whole time. He fits KOC offense absolutely perfectly
Chargers picking McCarthy is only a little crazier than Atlanta taking Penix
with the number 1 pick in the 1993 Draft.... the New England Patriots select , Drew Bledsoe
Bledsoe was a really good QB. If he hadn't gotten hurt, we might never have heard of Tim Brady.
@@usa91787 McCourty said the Patriots have never drafted as high as three.... listen to the interview
The good thing about JJ potentially sitting for a bit is that he'll be 21 when the season starts unlike Nix or Penix who will be 24. The covid year guys vs 19 year old argument doesn't really apply here
Justin Herbert is "erratic you can keep him"😆
I agree that for Atlanta, after signing 36 year old KC it is a right now league, but for the Patriots who have holes all over the field and a top QB who most think needs work on his technique it isn’t a right now league. For JJ it is all going to depend on how Darnold plays, and it may or may not be a right now league. The whole right now totally depends on the security of the head coach & GM, and the team philosophy. GreenBay doesn’t have an owner and their GM/coach have less pressure so they aren’t in a hurry to rush rookie QB’s onto the field!
A+ for sure great defender too
They’ve wanted jj since the combine. May has fallen off.
If the Vikings loved Maye they would have given up the farm to get him. They wanted McCarthy all along.
Florio always lookin like someone pissed in his cheerios in these thumbnails
How much does each QB from the Vikes play in the preseason??
Florio used to play with his hair in high school.
Truth I think vikes would have been fine with any of the 1st round qbs it was a matter of who would fall to them or what they would have to give up for them
I do like that we got Turner, bc even if neither starts, Turner will rotate in meaning production from at least one. If JJ doesn't start until he is 22 or 23, he'll still be "ahead" of other QB prospects. I still hope McCarthyKOC surprise people and he starts week one.
Don't rush this kid he just turned 21
Listing to JJ McCarthy speak made me realize he's very well spoken..... listened to the Sam darnold press conference heard umm out of his mouth every 5 seconds.... McCarthy will succeed
Lol.. brock Osweiler was very well spoken too. Tom Brady said “ummm” a lot as well. I know confidence is important, but that kind of confidence is not the type that they are talking about.
Expert take
Based on how he speaks? Lamar doesn’t speak well yet he’s one of the top QBs in the league. Mfs just say anything
Just stop talking bro, based on your comment I can tell your not the brightest 😂
Dude this is football not an English class 😂. Also, he’s probably buzzed too celebrating the draft.
I don’t know what to think of McCarthy. He could be absolutely awesome! I was thinking of who he reminds me of in thinking of what kinda career he will have. Chicago Bears and #9 Jim McMahon was my initial thought reflex. After a minute of thought another Bears QB came to mind. And that’s no other than Jim Harbaugh. If they get a Jim Harbaugh in this candy land league he will be fine. I just can’t get out of my head all missed thrown out routes. I have questions about him but he can be Jim Harbaugh
I think MN did well. I think there isn't a lot separating Maye, Penix or McCarthy. They all have the same amount positives and negatives. MN with hits roster and coaching couldn't go wrong.
Sam Darnold woulda had a chance if he was drafted anywhere but the jets lol
The center of the Vikings offensive line is still terrible. I hope the Vikings can pickup a center and or right guard.
They probably sign riser again after the draft
i hope he sits for the year and learns.
what do you do if he is clearly better than donald probly wont be but ehh
We got our supposed guy but we didn't even get to pick him , everyone else in the top 10 chose him for us lol I don't know how I feel about it
Other teams might have made a mistake. The year Jefferson was drafted the eagles were one pick ahead of the vikes and didn’t pick Jefferson. There’s literally footage of the vikes front office laughing at the eagles for letting them have Jefferson. It happe s
@@JorgeC-em1yp for sure but I don't think that draft was as pivotal at the time, JJ was a heck of a pick obviously you never expect to draft an all time receiver but there wasn't as much weight on the pick as their was for this draft in particular. We either have QB1 for the next 15years or we playing the same mediocrity game for atleast another 5
Even if he doesn't turn out you know what I'm happy what's the worst that happens we do horrible and we get another good first round draft pick?
New England had had the first overall pick before. When they drafted Drew Bledsoe in 93 or 94.
They really didn't give up too much. I would be interested to know if Denver was calling as well. Or maybe the Broncos got their guy? Who knows.
Probably the safest QB pick in the draft. A higher floor but a lower ceiling. He probably plays 12+ years and you are going to say, "He's not bad but..."
The Vikings gave up peanuts to draft their QB. Great job. I can’t believe the Jets came on board for this deal.
Replacing a Michigan state QB for a Michigan QB... He has big shoes to fill... Hope he has a good career just not against the Lions
I think they really wanted JJ McCarthy
And McCarthy wanted them
that is exactly what happened to Kirk when he was drafted by Washington. A little different circumstances, but similar affect.
says exactly in one sentence, then a little different in the next...... that was a reach in real time.lmao
Darnold can do everything well… until he’s in the actual game
Exactly
@@erichorn3414 HA HA HA HA
Nobody in their right mind would give up #11 #23 AND Darrisaw or Jefferson for the right to draft Drake Maye instead of McCarthy. If it were #1 or #2, MAYBE they would consider Darrisaw. But I doubt it.
Paul Allen say trade all
SKOL BABY
Were the Jets really about to draft a QB? I love the pick but i don’t get trading up 1 spot? Almost like they were manipulating Vegas odds or something
The Jets no, but other teams calling the Jets to move up, yes.
There is quarterback inflation and they are all taken a little early, but J.J. will be good and only had 4 turnovers in college and a 27-1 record.
Drake is a project quaterback going to a project offense... good luck with that . I thought the Pats should of traded down to get more picks and help building O line but im glad they didnt, cause we got JJ instead of Drake. The Vikes are built to win NOW not in 5 years .. we're a year or two out with the right QB ..even this year is on the table .. its possible .. not probable this year but possible if your QB is winner
This guy reminds me a lot of Brock Purdy with a stronger arm which isn’t a bad thing.
I’m no Sam Darnold fan especially after seeing him on “Soul and Science” (SAS) with Trent Dilfer. From memory he had a 54 MPH ball speed and a 0.44 Load-to-Release (LTR). I can’t remember his Load-to-Arrival (LTA) time. But Josh Allen was on the same episode and Josh obviously just blew Sam out of the water with a 0.38 LTR and 62 MPH right with a 59 running to Josh’s LEFT which is insane. I mean, Josh throws 10 percent better to his weak side than the average QB to the strong. But I like McCarthy better than Drake Maye. Without having numbers I think McCarthy’s LTR is quicker than Drake’s. Drake throws an accurate deep ball but I like JJ better on intermediate throws that have to get out and get there in a hurry.
Darnold's fastball tops out at 54mph? Doesn't sound right at all. I've watched some film of Darnold. I've seen him throw flat passes forty yards.
Singletary, besides Simms, is such a better co-host than the rest.
This is the perfect chance to see if McCarthy is a bust or not. If he fails with this Vikings team he isn’t going to get any better elsewhere.
They pretty much gave up a bag of chips and some dry dog food for JJ. Also any chance we can get to stick it to Shean Payton is a win in my book because according to Payton Manning, they wanted JJ.
Jefferson will make Sam look good! JJ is really young and relatively inexperienced compared to this class so longer term.
They could have taken Dallas Turner with their original pick [11].
Then they would have still have EIGHT draft choices they don't have but they wouldn't have McCarthy.
shrugs they got good players
If he can beat out Sam then he's not our guy!!
I really hope that Darnold has a great few years because if McCarthy becomes the starter it's 4th place in the division for sure. SMH WTF
All those draft picks to move up 1 shot. He was going to be there 1 pick later. Talk about a stupid move. Wow.
Why is McCourty hyping up Darnold he owned him😂
Nix Penix and Darnold are all about the same age 25-26 fun fact
If Harbaugh believed what he said about McCarthy, his boss should be angry that he said it.
Basically, if JJ can't succeed on that team with those receivers, he'll be an all time bust. I think he'll be fine in the long run, though. Drake Maye and Bo Nix are the two QBs who may have the hardest time in the next couple years, due to how bad the Broncos and Patriots rosters are.
Nope, Florio, I think the Vikings wanted JJM all the way.
Lmao people saying A+ before they even play. Just relax for now and enjoy the ride and you can grade the pick in 2-3 years
2:52 NE picked T Karl Singer #3 in 1966.
They’ve had five #1 picks including Plunkett and Bledsoe
All these QB's still have to beat Mahomes who probably wont fall off until 4-5 years? A lot of the QB's look too slim and need to bulk up. They gonna get one shot concussion from these tackles.
fourth in the north this year and next, McCarthy doesn't have strong enough arm for nfl
The Vikings said they never called on Herbert. It was made up by Antonio Brown on CTESPN
He’ll have a better career than Caleb Williams. Williams might be a great athlete, but he’s shown that he’s a me first guy who cracks under pressure plus the fact he’s going to the bears where QBs go to die. He’s gonna be a bust.
JJ saved harbaughs bacon.
Pick up another QB later in the draft so you can see JJ get beat out.
Love this pic …. Glad they got rid of Super Average Mr. you like that
JJ is a clone of Cousins with more movement skills.
@@DWoodsIIcousins been winning championships since highschool?
SO GLAD they didn't get Maye. Maye is so overrated. Maye's footwork is awful, his accuracy is mediocre. He's a project and people fall in love with him because of his physical gifts. McCarthy has a great arm, not elite, but he makes all the throw. He's also very athletic (4.47) can throw off platform and he knows how to win. He doesn't rely on the splashy plays to win games. He makes the right play over and over again and that's a lot more reproducable in the NFL then trying to make sportscenter plays all the time.
That’s what us pat’s fans have said about Mac for 3 years….Have fun with Mac 2.0 😂😂
JJ is a big project too. Not many reps or college production. Maye is also a great athlete with a much better arm and has the prototypical size that JJ doesn't have. There's a reason the Vikings were offering 3 1sts to get up to pick 3. JJ was their backup play.
@@brandondillman5841 Doesn't make them right. You don't draft a guy at 3 as a project but that's exactly what Drake Maye is. Maye's footwork and accuracy are mid, mediocre. JJ was very accurate, doesn't turn the ball over, plays big in big moments, and is an Alpha leader according to his teammates and coaches and everyone who meets talks about how they gravitate toward him. You can't coach that kind of presence and leadership. He also has great pocket awareness which Maye does not. Maye had mediocre pocket awareness, often ran out of clean pockets, which again you can get away with in College, but not the NFL. He's got the intangibles that you cannot coach. Drake doesn't have those intangibles. He's not the Alpha leader and he's not clutch. JJ is a great decision maker who makes the right play over and over. Drake too often tried to make the big play rather than take what the defense gives him. You can get away with that in college, but not in the NFL.
@@Ggggggyhg Nah...you guys have fun with Mitch Trubisky 2.0. We got a clutch, alpha leader, accurate passer, and great athlete. Also, Mac Jones looked like a good pick when he had weapons and a decent offensive coordinator in Josh McDaniels. He went through 3 different offensive coordinators (really 4 since year 2 he didn't officially have one). Mac Jones had a chance to be a decent Quarterback but the Pats screwed him over in year 2 and apparently he doesn't have the intangibles to recover. Also, who do the Pats have to throw to? THey have a worthless offense. Maye won't do any better. He's not coming in more polished and ready than Mac Jones and he has absolutely nothing to work with. They are in a perfect position to ruin another young prospect. JJ has two great tackles to protect him, two great receivers, a great tight end, a great offensive-minded coach, and a veteran back to check down to. He's walking into a QB's dream development situation.
@@brandondillman5841 Go watch Bill Belichick's reaction to each of those picks. Bill knows. He saw on tape that Maye doesn't have it and he knows JJ does.
I've heard that Drake has to sit to be a competent NFL QB. I trust KOC!