The real fate of MS Estonia?

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  • čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
  • MS Estonia was an Estonian cruise ferry built at Meyer Werft Shipyard in Papenburg, Germany, in 1980. The vessel’s previous names were Viking Sally (1980-1990), Silja Star (1990-1991) and Wasa King. The Estonian Shipping Company and Nordström & Thulin bought her for Estline's Tallinn-Stockholm line. The MS Estonia commenced traffic under the Estonian flag on February 2, 1993. The Finnish shipping company Rederi Ab Slite ordered her under Viking Line’s trademark, and her first name was Viking Sally. The vessel was 155,43 m long and 24,21 m wide, with max possible speed of 21 knots. There were 1,190 cabin beds, and two car decks had room for 460 vehicles.
    On June 29, 1980 the vessel made her first journey on the route Turu-Mariehamn-Stockholm. She was sold to Oy Silja Line Ab in 1990 and christened as Silja Star.
    In the same year it was decided to sell the vessel once again and she was owned by Wasa Line, which belonged to Silja Line's proprietor EffJohn International. Her name was changed to Wasa King. Estonians started to show their interest in the vessel in 1992. Under the Estonia Shipping Company that was registered in Cyprus and that bought the ship, there were actually two big companies - Nordström & Thulin from Sweden and the state-owned company Estonian Shipping Company. After a long consideration the ship got a new name - MS Estonia. The last owners introduced a new line Tallinn-Stockholm.
    On the night of September 28, 1994, going from Tallinn to Stockholm, MS Estonia sank and 852 people drowned.
    Estonia model: Lucas Gustaffson
    Mariella model: Generalfeldmarschall
    Silja Europa model : Martin Feledziak
    Animation: CaljuCotcas
    #MSEstonia #Estonia #Estline
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Komentáře • 723

  • @Sulaco505
    @Sulaco505 Před 3 lety +201

    I've said this in another video that claimed a sub sank the Estonia but it would be highly implausible that this happened. The night the Estonia sank the the seas were 13-20 feet and high winds of 35-45 mph. No submarine would be on the surface in those conditions unless it was in distress and had no choice but to surface or sink. And given the fact that submarines ride relatively low in the water if such a situation had occurred the Estonia would have just ridden right over the top of the submarine or the bulbous bow on the Estonia would have just bashed it out of the way.

    • @AF-nc2fc
      @AF-nc2fc Před 3 lety +29

      And if a sub collided with Estonia, where's that sub?

    • @Yassified3425
      @Yassified3425 Před 3 lety +15

      @@Vs-py2ey How do you tow a sunken submarine?
      There is no proof of this and no radars before the sinking of the Estonia showed any surfaces submarine.

    • @jandoerlidoe3412
      @jandoerlidoe3412 Před 3 lety +4

      A collision with a surfaced sub is highly unlikely to have happened, if a sub was involves, it would have been a sub attacking the Estonia...

    • @geronimo5537
      @geronimo5537 Před 3 lety +15

      problem with the sub theory is that the front of the bow is not dented in any fashion. which automatically debunks the idea.

    • @SgtBeltfed
      @SgtBeltfed Před 3 lety +15

      Such a collision would either badly damage or sink a submarine. If it was sunk, then some navy would have been missing a submarine, with crew, and that would have been noticed. If it was simply badly damaged, then it would have turned up somewhere with major damage, which also didn't happen.

  • @idkwhattoputhere123abc
    @idkwhattoputhere123abc Před 3 lety +41

    I loved how you put the Viking Mariella and Silja Europa

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  Před 3 lety +4

      thanks :)

    • @DjMokkis
      @DjMokkis Před 2 lety +2

      GTS Finnjet should of been there too :)

    • @TheKweenII_09
      @TheKweenII_09 Před 2 lety +2

      @@DjMokkis and Silja Symphony and Isabella (now Isabelle)

  • @mrhardlinezone951
    @mrhardlinezone951 Před 3 lety +211

    Swedish filmmaker Henrik Evertsson dived into the wreck of Estonia with a submarine robot and discovered an unspecified injury on the hull of the ship. The published footage shows a large dent on the side of Estonia and a hole that is four metres high and 1.2 metres wide.
    AFTONBLADET

    • @pops7249
      @pops7249 Před 3 lety +2

      so, its a sub?

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 Před 3 lety +19

      Torpedo and sub, Maybe. The lorry with stuff on car deck was real reason as said. Some Day we know, must be people's out there who's have much to say..
      Some few's already opened case little bit. It's no secret anymore that Estonia ship had many time's "secret military cargo" on board going to Sweden and then last link was to USA using plane.
      I know, this is difficult thing many ways. But murder on The same ship is going to judge at this year.. Sally became just one Hell boat of death.. i wait when that case became "Hot", now is just accident and closed. At 90's some people's say IT must burry by cement or asphalt.. grazy idea if it "just go to bottom of sea".. was there soviet niclear stuff? If I remember right, they have missing some 48 nukes, different types. who knows where those are, nobody.

    • @jussi798
      @jussi798 Před 3 lety +12

      @@jannejohansson3383 Torpedo? what the fuck are you talking about?

    • @jussi798
      @jussi798 Před 3 lety +1

      @@jannejohansson3383 Okei

    • @simba_mzee
      @simba_mzee Před 3 lety +22

      @@RealDrSex What a powerful fantasy the amateur debunker has. Estonia has never changed its position, there is a lot of underwater filming for all the time it rests on the bottom. The bottom in this place is absolutely flat, the ship has nowhere to slip. On what pro-government website did you read this nonsense about a cliff?

  • @rudewalrus5636
    @rudewalrus5636 Před 2 lety +33

    If the Estonia struck an obstacle like a sub with enough force to damage or tear off the bow door I think the crew would have noticed and reported a collision. How fast did the ship go down? This scenario seems unlikely.

    • @PlanetEarth790
      @PlanetEarth790 Před 2 lety

      @X-MarcosTitanic2 or should i said 1000 seconds?

    • @momoy9159
      @momoy9159 Před 2 lety

      @X-MarcosTitanic2 The ship went down in 40-50 minutes, bro.

    • @canaldopcds4605
      @canaldopcds4605 Před rokem

      Olha cara a cabine não tinha visão da proa

    • @bjrnpedersen1627
      @bjrnpedersen1627 Před rokem

      @@momoy9159 More like 30 minutes

    • @Mere-Lachaiselongue
      @Mere-Lachaiselongue Před 7 měsíci

      My history teacher showed us a video regarding the Estonia disaster 2 years ago and in it the OFFICIAL Swedish commission showed "explosive" damage to metal parts.

  • @kirkkek
    @kirkkek Před 3 lety +113

    The screams of terror give me chills

  • @dussofucko1648
    @dussofucko1648 Před 3 lety +42

    This is so well made holy crap nice job!

  • @midgetspinner306
    @midgetspinner306 Před 3 lety +123

    They found 2 new holes in the wreck yesterday

  • @edwineriksson2882
    @edwineriksson2882 Před 3 lety +124

    This is very well done, it's the best I've seen in a long time

  • @olzyolzmobile
    @olzyolzmobile Před 3 lety +53

    The makers of videos like this seem to miss the detail that the lights are off on the command bridge when driving at nighttime. Having full lights on = outside vision is severly impaired.

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  Před 3 lety +10

      I know yes, i had to change textures, but it was too much work at this time 😄

    • @req6385
      @req6385 Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly.

    • @angieroxy7550
      @angieroxy7550 Před 2 lety

      Some of the Titanic Simulations that I've seen have always shown the Bridge Lights to be on.

    • @olzyolzmobile
      @olzyolzmobile Před 2 lety +3

      @@angieroxy7550 Which would seem to imply that the makers don't know much about driving a ship at night time, but as it is in reality kept very dark on the command bridge it would be difficult to visualize what is going on on the bridge in a simulation or a film. I've worked 15 years (1980-95) for the Viking Line ferry company that operated Estonia earlier 1980-90 as "Viking Sally", I''ve also been on her command bridge and could notice the awkward fact that she was built so that you could not see the ships "nose" with the visir from the command bridge . My father was a captain for the same company until his retirement in 1983. So it is very well known: no lights on the command bridge at night time. It's a practical question of visiblity.

    • @NorwegianCobain
      @NorwegianCobain Před 2 lety +2

      ​@@olzyolzmobile You have absolutely right sir! I'm interested to ask you which vessels where you on duty? and in what period on these vessels?
      Greetings from a maritime student in Norway!

  • @matsopelle
    @matsopelle Před 2 lety +12

    You can literally find pictures on the internet of the salvaged bow visor. There is no deformation on it indicating of a collision what so ever.

    • @evanburgess8428
      @evanburgess8428 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, on it's right side it has quite a beating.

    • @Cjx0r
      @Cjx0r Před 2 lety +2

      Ironically looking up "Estonia salvaged bow visor" uses those exact pictures to prove the opposite. Looking forward to (edited)

  • @MacMelmac
    @MacMelmac Před 3 lety +20

    I'm pretty sure it went down with the stern first, the bow rose up in the sky a bit, stern hit the bottom, and the rest sunk down. It's crazy to think that the ship is almost twice the lenght of the depth she is laying on.

  • @midgetspinner306
    @midgetspinner306 Před 3 lety +113

    There was NATO training near the accident and there could have been a submarine that sunk Estonia, and this explains why England signed that they weren't inspecting or lifting up the ship from the water when they aren't even a part of the nordic countries, because England is a part of NATO and they could have been the reason why Estonia sunk.

    • @MrKimas
      @MrKimas Před 3 lety +11

      Can't agree with this because it would be stupid on UK's part if they had part in this disaster to sign something so far off their shores. They just showed solidarity. More likely it was a Russian sub because Estonia did carry, old Soviet arms disguised as civil trucks (which they did several times already and they were warned by the Russians that they know what they are doing). The now open vehicle ramp proves it that Sweden tried to hide the real truth. Let's be real. Why would anyone need to bury a shipwreck if they didn't have something to hide?

    • @randomdumbassguy
      @randomdumbassguy Před 3 lety +4

      @@MrKimas true the flag looked like a russian navy flag i agree

    • @maxsabre5466
      @maxsabre5466 Před 3 lety +16

      @@MrKimas oh yes, the Russians are always to blame for everything. Did the Russians impose a moratorium on diving and filming in Estonia? If it were a Russian submarine, they would have been shouting about it all over the world

    • @MrKimas
      @MrKimas Před 3 lety +12

      @@mikeycrackson Because Sweden bought Soviet military tech that was left in Estonia after their independance. Sweden and Estonia were warned by the now Russians that they know what's going on. All the countries that signed the agreement besides maybe UK didn't want the public to know that around 900 people died because of a military purchase.

    • @midgetspinner306
      @midgetspinner306 Před 3 lety +2

      @@MrKimas ok ye this makes more sense

  • @Nomannium
    @Nomannium Před 2 lety +7

    I think it was an explosion from the inside. Explains the deformation of the visor plate and the burn marks as well the hole on the hull pointing outwards

    • @nidejijixiao
      @nidejijixiao Před 13 dny

      it was the severity of the waves and storm that caused the visor ti detach and the ramp to fall

  • @3chel3
    @3chel3 Před 2 lety +8

    The sister ships bow doors also broke off in heavy seas. It was a design fault not nonsense about a submarine collision.

    • @Petri_Pennala
      @Petri_Pennala Před 2 lety +1

      Have you seen the document "Estonia Mullistava löytö"

    • @lassehaggman
      @lassehaggman Před 2 lety +1

      Exactly. Shoddy construction, captain's mistakes and risks taken, the storm. That was all that was needed. Case closed.

    • @Omega4Productions
      @Omega4Productions Před 2 lety +1

      Theories like this only exist because people refuse to believe that such a small series of mistakes could result in such a catastrophe. Fact of the matter is that most disasters are the result of small things.

    • @TheKweenII_09
      @TheKweenII_09 Před 2 lety +1

      Diana II (retired) have that faulty bow visor that she almost sank

  • @timokuusela5794
    @timokuusela5794 Před 3 lety +43

    A cruise ship is like a christmas tree, and there are lookouts on the sub if it travels surfaced, but at that night the heavy seas would have made the sub roll so much that the crew would have all been seasick. Perhaps in the Hollywood World this could happen as in the video, but not in the real world. Sub sonar hears everything, and in the surface, both Estonia and sub would have seen each other in their radar screens and radars would have alerted of collision. All the sub crew sleeping, and the boat in autopilot? Not likely. Sure enough, if just surfacing, there could be a blind moment for both, it has happened before.
    The hole in the hull is still puzzling; if the visor did not sink right away, but was thrown by a wave against the hull, that could cause the hole. If the damage is clearly from outside in, something heavy and sharp could cause it, not smooth-sided sub. The front diving plane may or may not be sturdy enough to rip the hull enough. Let us hope the real thruth will come to light...

    • @27Dmurphy
      @27Dmurphy Před 3 lety +4

      It has been already confirmed that the visor isnt heavy enough to cause that kind of damage to the ship.

    • @Haldei
      @Haldei Před 2 lety +1

      They rammed it on purpose

    • @mysterywalker1621
      @mysterywalker1621 Před 2 lety

      Yes, this would not be they it happened. It would more have been a raming i the side of the ship... but how knows...

    • @Petri_Pennala
      @Petri_Pennala Před 2 lety +1

      Sen objektin pitäisi painaa ainakin 100 000kiloa jos oikein muistan ja siinä keulassa olisi varmasti merkkejä niin isosta törmäyksestä

    • @crissyb00
      @crissyb00 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Haldei Wow, you are a genius
      Da, let us ram a multi billion dollar submarine into a ferry that has slightly pissed us off by moving obsolete soviet arms.
      Yup that makes perfect sense

  • @heat8443
    @heat8443 Před 3 lety +22

    What about hole to the right side?

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 Před 3 lety +3

      And how about the side what no one can see?? Much indrestig guestion.

    • @lennox_nzl4607
      @lennox_nzl4607 Před 3 lety

      @@jannejohansson3383 and how about the fact is cant have just "appeared"?

    • @idk66613
      @idk66613 Před 3 lety

      An truck in Estonia did it

  • @hylianninjacg7347
    @hylianninjacg7347 Před 3 lety +10

    *Cough, Cough* It's not ''Faith of Motor Ship Estonia'', It's ''FATE of Motor Ship Estonia''.

  • @Trenton-om9qs
    @Trenton-om9qs Před 2 lety +14

    I still think the ships bow door broke off in the rough sea. It was like 30 foot seas with 40mph winds.

  • @FirstnameLastname-ks4ln
    @FirstnameLastname-ks4ln Před 3 lety +7

    Awesome animation !!

  • @maonparas
    @maonparas Před 3 lety +6

    They are diving there right now

  • @nimpula
    @nimpula Před 3 lety +9

    I hope the real reason of this horrific case are gonna be revealed ASAP... with the radical examination. As always, awesome video! 😄❤️

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety

      So what is the real reason?

    • @AKQJIO1978
      @AKQJIO1978 Před 2 lety +2

      it was bad weather and the bow visire came off bc it was poorly designed. end of story.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety

      @@AKQJIO1978 You are wrong. The visire was subjected to high heat. Over 1200 C, it has been confirmed. They dont know but it points to an explsosiotn.....

    • @AKQJIO1978
      @AKQJIO1978 Před 2 lety

      @@elefteriosmouratidis can you please link this information.

    • @Omega4Productions
      @Omega4Productions Před 2 lety +1

      @@elefteriosmouratidis "it has been confirmed". By who? What's your source?

  • @VeikkausMaister
    @VeikkausMaister Před 3 lety +30

    Quote by Fox Mulder: “The truth is out there.”

  • @Brecconable
    @Brecconable Před rokem

    Probably the best video I've seen on the Estonia.

  • @rikuhytti
    @rikuhytti Před 3 lety +6

    Finnish newspapers Iltalehti and Ilta~sanomat reports that the wreck of Estonia has been breached and that the ramp to the vehicle deck is completely open and torn away from the wrecks bow.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety

      And the problem is??

    • @rikuhytti
      @rikuhytti Před 2 lety

      @@elefteriosmouratidis There is no problem. Just more unaswered questions to what originally happened and what was transported aboard Estonias vehicle deck during Estonias final voyage.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety

      @@rikuhytti But its not strange taht the ramp is torn away after so many years at the botton and alomst upside down

    • @rikuhytti
      @rikuhytti Před 2 lety

      @@elefteriosmouratidis That is the weird thing because during the last investigative dive in 2019 the ramp was completely closed.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety +1

      @@rikuhytti No it wasnt completly cloesed. It never was completly closed. We have to understand the ramp was damaged and after 20+ yeasrs gravity does its thing. Noone removed the ramp. And why should they? To do what? Go in to the car deck? To find what? Everything is a mess in there. You cant find anything

  • @CrispyCross-
    @CrispyCross- Před 3 lety +6

    Best ship animator

  • @nevioberki9894
    @nevioberki9894 Před 3 lety +26

    Someone mentioned about a sub not going on the surface in bad stormy weather, even I know that...then this is inaccurate, in that case it was a yellow submarine

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 Před 3 lety

      Some one tell me that bottom of vessel goes under that sea surface.
      If we want fugg a fly, sub's arent white too, usually.
      Argh!

    • @nevioberki9894
      @nevioberki9894 Před 3 lety +3

      @@jannejohansson3383 det är lättare på svenska eller hur :)

    • @xfanaticsurfer7419
      @xfanaticsurfer7419 Před 3 lety

      That's not true

    • @harrie205
      @harrie205 Před 3 lety +2

      thats only true for big submarines (they tend to dive below the storm) but the small ones used in the Baltic sea sometimes surface during storms for safety reasons
      but the Estonia did not hit a sub

    • @MickyMaus40
      @MickyMaus40 Před 3 lety +2

      @@harrie205 we willl see. They are looking into it why the ship sank again.

  • @paulaflanagan-tyrrell1868

    Very nice video I like it

  • @paulaflanagan-tyrrell1868
    @paulaflanagan-tyrrell1868 Před 3 lety +13

    This so sad :(

  • @user-fg1tl8jm7m
    @user-fg1tl8jm7m Před 3 lety +2

    Amazing animation...!

  • @SdH76zhEU
    @SdH76zhEU Před 3 lety

    wouldnt it more likely have come from the other side and caused the Hole around the "E"? Thats on the other side not, while sliding along the Hull?

  • @E.V._Estonia_Graza
    @E.V._Estonia_Graza Před 8 měsíci

    I finally got around to watch the 2nd season of the Estonia documentary, it came out really late as it does. How did you react when you saw YOUR clips there?

  • @alpm95
    @alpm95 Před 3 lety +5

    Seems legit, but how does it explain the large hole on the side? In what way must the submarine have shredded the Hull open? So much force?

    • @rafa5361
      @rafa5361 Před 3 lety +6

      Probably the propeller hitting the hull after the sub turned away

    • @narzereth
      @narzereth Před 3 lety +4

      The submarine (if did acually hit the estonia) was at full speed when it happened. It smashed into the bow visor causing the loud bang. Then still being at full speed smashed into the right side again opening the large hole(s) and then the rest is history

    • @idk66613
      @idk66613 Před 3 lety

      An truck in Estonia did it

    • @martinsv9183
      @martinsv9183 Před 2 lety

      @@idk66613 Haha :) If it exploded maybe.. Just running a truck into the metal of a ship will just crash the truck.

  • @Attomicc076
    @Attomicc076 Před 3 lety +1

    You made a longer one to be sure but uhh I meant significantly longer...still good though

  • @brianAS79
    @brianAS79 Před rokem +1

    Better design is necessary. If the ship's bow is damaged or falls off, water should not be able to enter the ship

  • @drownplayz
    @drownplayz Před 2 lety +1

    awesome!

  • @jakkek238
    @jakkek238 Před 3 lety +1

    Good video! Anyone knows how thick metal u-boats are made of? Would this kind of crash leave big damage to u-boat? Just wondering this mystery...

    • @joakimwohlfeil
      @joakimwohlfeil Před 3 lety +5

      Well, Subarines are built of thick but soft flexible steel to withstand pressure, Estonia was 16000-ton ice class 1A meaning she was built in hardened steel for bouncing of ice. Estonia would have sank the U-boat in seconds, while Estonia would not have suffered much damage. But you can forget the speculation. Uboats never surface in a super trafficed area in the middle of the night in picth black (if the commander don´t want to commit suicide). Adding to that a subarine would never have surfaced in the kind of weather that was during that night.

    • @ReimerGodt
      @ReimerGodt Před 3 lety

      Well, the water/air tanks are usually in the sides.
      If holes in the tank, would an Uboat sink then ?

    • @joakimwohlfeil
      @joakimwohlfeil Před 3 lety +1

      @@ReimerGodtThat was the case with older submarines, today the ballast tanks are more integrated. However, yes a collision with a submarine and Estonia would in 90% ended with a sunken submarine. But you can just forget the whole idea as there are so many factors making a collision with a submarine unlikely.

  • @Estes3ceps
    @Estes3ceps Před 2 lety +1

    If there was a sub and they were both on the surface and experiencing heavy waves. The sub could have caused more damege on the back because of the heavy waves and with out of control

  • @Comrade_Peavey
    @Comrade_Peavey Před 3 lety +6

    The problem with this theory is that there's no way in hell that sub didnt know it was on a collision course with another vessel. Even in peacetime, modern submarines always utilize passive sonar, which should've easily detected the propeller revolutions. And when surfaced, subs typically deploy their ESM mast which would make detection of a ship even easier. Given the alignment of the two vessels in your animation, the Estonia wasnt in the subs baffles and so should've been spotted. Most glaring of all, no sub would be travelling on the surface during a storm. Subs hardly ever travel on the surface to begin with, and doing so in a storm would make no sense as it would slow their speed and cause the sub to roll even more than a surface vessel would

    • @mitte90
      @mitte90 Před 2 lety

      @@maltimulti1919 the sub theory is not needed and there are little evidence.. planted bombs are more likely

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety

      @@maltimulti1919 there is no main theory that Russia sent a submarine. Thats is bullshit. Soviet didnt exist in 1994...

    • @vipvip-tf9rw
      @vipvip-tf9rw Před 2 lety

      @@maltimulti1919 they would send cargo ship for that operation

    • @Mere-Lachaiselongue
      @Mere-Lachaiselongue Před 7 měsíci

      @@vipvip-tf9rw The Estonia did previously ship weapons too before the disaster.

  • @DIYBFF123
    @DIYBFF123 Před 3 lety +6

    Submarine? c´mon! she was in heavy waves, probably hade fatigue issues in her construction, hit a vawe hard, tore of the visor, and then the door couldn´t handle the impact forces from the vawes...the damages on the hull was of course made from rocks when impacting the sea bed! End of story.

    • @davejohnson3474
      @davejohnson3474 Před 3 lety +5

      But if you watched the documentry they found no rocks. But like they said they were smuggling military equipment which the government denied but then admitted to it lol. Somethings suspicious about the whole thing regardless but we'll never know

  • @NorwegianCobain
    @NorwegianCobain Před 3 lety +6

    No wonder why they can't see a submarine visual when M/S Estonia's bridge is in full light!

  • @mrp3263
    @mrp3263 Před 3 lety

    Why couldn't the hole have been caused by impact with the ocean bed?

  • @christof1192
    @christof1192 Před 3 lety +2

    Oh no my Kosatka sunk in GTA V 😬

  • @jiipeez
    @jiipeez Před 2 lety +1

    There are over 100 sailors onboard a submarine. There is no way that they all would stay quiet about what happened. We would know by now.

  • @orenalbertmeisel3127
    @orenalbertmeisel3127 Před 2 lety +4

    I don’t think alternative theories like a submarine collision or top-secret military cargo exploding caused the accident. If you ask me everything points towards the visor.
    Here are some factors to consider:
    1. The visor was found far away from the main wreckage, meaning it broke free before Estonia capsized.
    2. Footage taken weeks before the accident shows a visor that is in bad shape and poorly maintained.
    3. The hole that was discovered on Estonia shows the force that created it came from inside the ship, not outside.
    4. The hole was probably created by explosive decompression. Similar thing happened when the MV Derbyshire sank. It’s caused by air escaping under intense water pressure when a ship sinks.

    • @plixnite3960
      @plixnite3960 Před 2 lety

      You are wrong, swedish goverment are responsible for all this horrible

    • @anokiyoussou
      @anokiyoussou Před 2 lety

      @@plixnite3960 proof ?

    • @plixnite3960
      @plixnite3960 Před 2 lety

      @@anokiyoussou everything points at the Swedish goverment. this is discusting.

  • @CrownFactor
    @CrownFactor Před 3 lety +2

    I really love your content ❤️ #subscribed

  • @arwo1143
    @arwo1143 Před 3 lety +6

    Oh, come on people
    Skip the damm UBoat story for once
    The damage is across the Fender OVER the waterline
    Also…. That UBoat from your animation would have been cut in half and immediately sunk if that was what happened

    • @aslavdogg
      @aslavdogg Před 3 lety +1

      Thats not a U-boat man, i dont know wich submarine it is, but trust me it isnt a u boat, and the modern submarines are way stronger than the ww2 ones

  • @paulaflanagan-tyrrell1868

    Very nice

  • @Ins3ctiz0id
    @Ins3ctiz0id Před 2 lety +10

    If the sub sank the Estonia, wouldn't there be a wreck of a sub too?

    • @natureboyy3
      @natureboyy3 Před 2 lety

      Probably not, a submarine is very strong. I think it would survive a crash like this. But I'm not sure.

    • @The_Duggler25
      @The_Duggler25 Před 2 lety +1

      @@natureboyy3 ya you might like to think that but a ship like that would cut a sub in 2 and not even notice it.

    • @henriksandbacka9442
      @henriksandbacka9442 Před 2 lety +1

      @@The_Duggler25 Isn't it literally the opposite? Subs are built for naval warfare and Estonia was a civil ship in rough shape. A sub would completely trash Estonia?

    • @The_Duggler25
      @The_Duggler25 Před 2 lety

      @@henriksandbacka9442 subs while strong in there own right, are also fragile especially if hit in the side like that. That ship has far more mass and weight and with that bow, would cut right though the sub.

    • @lassehaggman
      @lassehaggman Před 2 lety

      @@henriksandbacka9442 Estonia weighed thousands of tons and was going ahead at full speed. It would have smashed a sub into pieces.

  • @user-eb2rl4cp1o
    @user-eb2rl4cp1o Před 2 lety +5

    The shipvsank because pf the water heights and the shipvbow didnt tolerate the high waves so it broke off

  • @alexcanine4948
    @alexcanine4948 Před 3 lety +1

    Wow... deep

  • @gabe6943
    @gabe6943 Před 3 lety +4

    I don’t think so actually

  • @Chiuluonday
    @Chiuluonday Před 2 lety

    Wait where is the 4 meter long hole?

  • @theshiphistorian5820
    @theshiphistorian5820 Před 3 lety

    Incredible

  • @filipwillner1584
    @filipwillner1584 Před 3 lety +17

    If this was the case Estonia would float for a couple days instead of sinking in under an hour as it did because water can’t go from the car deck and under because of a water tight barrier the boat would hav rotated 180 degrees and stay afloat upside down for a couple days and they have found holes under car deck.

    • @callmeadmin
      @callmeadmin Před 3 lety +3

      The problem with big ships is that with the size, pressure on trapped air increases. The weight of the ship structure compresses the air, and volume of air reduces along with reduced floating capability. With only 1 bar pressure, air volume is reduced twice.

    • @pederthistel6523
      @pederthistel6523 Před 3 lety +2

      The sub probsbly hit further back, the ship sank si quickly because of the water that was pouring in the cabin area under the car deck, if the water only came pouring in through the bow and overfilled the car deck, it would have stayed afloat upside down for days as u say, but since it sank at once, the deck under the car deck had to be filled with seawater wich it did so if it really was a submarine that made the hole it makes sense that it sunk at once

    • @legopirat17
      @legopirat17 Před 3 lety +2

      The bow doors didnt just fell of so quickly actually. Once they did water rushed in the cargo area. There were no watertight barriers. Just one huge space for wheeled cargo.Also roro carriers were designed differently back then. Nowadays they dont have such curved hulls, but they are wider for added stability. Waves were also bigger as shown in animation, weather was awful that night.

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 Před 3 lety +2

      Or pressed on half of original volume and weight is same. 1000 Litres = 1Kg @ sea level. 10.000 L Air under 10m of water weight 5kg, over 5Kg when water is salty. That's is then more heavy when It's sinkin and more water goes in and air squeezes, If I'am right about that.

    • @robbiehoekstra7727
      @robbiehoekstra7727 Před 2 lety

      @@callmeadmin How do you get pressure on air? Please explain with calculations in this case?

  • @pmcg97
    @pmcg97 Před 2 lety +1

    What happened to Captain Avo Pith ? 🚢🕵️‍♀️

  • @edvardsulmanis628
    @edvardsulmanis628 Před 2 lety +1

    Maybe just speculation: but on ship was some military or secret russian stuff * stolen* from them, to ship to sweden, later on Usa. Thats why it was important to stop it. Also hole in ship maybe blown out later underwater to take stuff out?

  • @garethmurtagh
    @garethmurtagh Před 3 lety +9

    If this is what happened then what happened to the sub? Given the disparity in size between it and the Estonia it would likely have suffered severe damage. Subs have been sunk in the past by such collisions, even if it survived it would need several years in dock to be repaired. It’s presence would be difficult to conceal and it would be off its navy’s active strength for that length of time.
    I’m not saying the scenario is incorrect, the cause of the hole in the Estonia’s side needs to be determined, but this is the thing that occurs to me on seeing this.

    • @ReimerGodt
      @ReimerGodt Před 3 lety

      Dunno,
      when chasing enemy submarines
      under water, collisions could easily
      occur.
      Therefore a submarine needs to be
      build tough, to not being sunk by "accident".
      They possibly have hardened stern
      to be able to ram a submarine.
      Due to the torpedo outlets possibly
      not practicable.

    • @aslavdogg
      @aslavdogg Před 3 lety +5

      In fact, that submarine was found in a NATO port a few days later with HORRIBLE damage, being repaired.

    • @yoooyeee9300
      @yoooyeee9300 Před 3 lety +1

      @@aslavdogg you know the name?

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety +4

      @@aslavdogg no that is bullshit. Had nothing to do with Estonia

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety +3

      @@ReimerGodt there is no way a sub would survive if it got hit by Estonia

  • @dancingcarapace
    @dancingcarapace Před 3 lety +2

    This still wouldn’t explain the massive hole divers found in her hull.
    My personal theory is it was an old WW2 sea mine that hadn’t been disposed of properly, since we know that this is true for the Baltic. Nobody bothered to properly screen it for the mines.

    • @mitte90
      @mitte90 Před 2 lety

      this was on a well used shipping route it unlikly a mine would be left un discovered there.. and i dont think any mines was deployed in the region at all during ww2. surviving testimony talk about a explosion but a mine would be discribed more distinkly. why lie about a ww2 mine?

    • @supersquats
      @supersquats Před 2 lety +1

      Was just away to post exact same thing. In one if the world wars i cant remember which they apparently laid just under 200,000 sea mines in the baltic sea. It could be posdible that a small one struck the side of the ship causing the mystery hole and in the process the shockwave that went through the hull jolted the visor hinges and damaged them to the point they coukd no longer take the pressure from the waves.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety +1

      @@supersquats hålet skapdes av att Estonia träffade botten. Inga minor här inte

  • @rasosm3569
    @rasosm3569 Před 2 lety +3

    Ive heard rumours that the following day of Estonian disaster, near port of Sweden a Submarine with a injury was brought to fix..Same day when Estonia sank there were Nato training in that sea, with multiple submarines.

  • @MilkymandogOG
    @MilkymandogOG Před 3 lety

    Did the the sub got damaged

  • @AF-nc2fc
    @AF-nc2fc Před 3 lety +12

    This video isn't accurate. According to the survivors, when she sank she swung upright ("like a church tower"), then she plunged.

    • @jakubzn1143
      @jakubzn1143 Před 3 lety +5

      Jesus are you critic or what?

    • @AF-nc2fc
      @AF-nc2fc Před 3 lety +3

      @@jakubzn1143 Yes.

    • @panzerivausfg4062
      @panzerivausfg4062 Před 3 lety +1

      @@AF-nc2fc Estonia never sunk upright!
      She listed to her side and sunk, stern first

    • @AF-nc2fc
      @AF-nc2fc Před 2 lety

      @@panzerivausfg4062 No. She sank bow first. Bleeding Christ.

    • @panzerivausfg4062
      @panzerivausfg4062 Před 2 lety

      @@AF-nc2fc She never sunk bow first. She listed on the right and sunk stern first. This channel also made an animation about it, some days ago. You're ignorant

  • @ThisHandleFeatureIsStupid

    Wait, what? 🤨
    Why is there a submarine present in this?

  • @KasperiVonSchrowe
    @KasperiVonSchrowe Před 2 lety

    No, there were no marks of collision in the bow vizor or bulb. Why is it so hard to accept the report of the accident?

  • @johnfarrimond3813
    @johnfarrimond3813 Před 2 lety +4

    So hard to believe that rough seas over stressed the bow door causing a failure? Seems pretty straight forward to me. Not everything is a conspiracy.

    • @mrh2o465
      @mrh2o465 Před rokem +1

      Yes it is. And you saying it is not just proves that. Don't know why, but that's how it works. Now if you'll excuse me, I have an unexpected Ufo encounter at noon.

  • @BIBIWCICC
    @BIBIWCICC Před 3 lety +4

    Wasn’t a Russian kilo it was a US Los Angleles class. It went into Faslane sub base and had a complete replacement crew waiting for it.

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 Před 3 lety +3

      Hmm, are you saying that "LA" was watching that Estonian's cargo project and ewerything went wrong? I think you don't mean that "LA" put holes to Estonia and sink it? Tell more or url, thanks.
      1 second ago

  • @rlbliss5630
    @rlbliss5630 Před 2 lety +1

    It be like that sometimes…

  • @majcinex83
    @majcinex83 Před 2 lety +2

    Tak mogło to wyglądać 🤔
    Od początku rząd mógł wiedzieć o tym wszystkim
    Ciekawe czy prawda wyjdzie na jaw

  • @patrickgothmann7027
    @patrickgothmann7027 Před 3 lety +1

    Wenn es so gewesen sein sollte müsste man überall auf Werften nachforschen nach irgendwelche U-Boote wegen Beschädigungen repariert worden sind . Denn bei so einen Aufprall müsste das U-Boot auch stark beschädigt

  • @TopMusic-rf3mt
    @TopMusic-rf3mt Před 2 lety +1

    This is unrealistic, it hardly seems to me that the front sash was torn off and the bulb was not even injured. The sash was torn off, because of the large area, it slowed down in the water and the ship tore through the skin on it. Moreover, the submarines have a rubber noise-absorbing skin, its traces were not found on the found ferry sash.
    This version is fantastic, nothing more.
    ---
    If Estonia crashed into a submarine, it would be the same as flying into a vertical wall by car.
    Most of the submarine is under water, and the submerged body will be very difficult to deploy such a ferry as shown in the video. Estonia would have to overcome the water resistance preventing the U-turn of the submarine. Estonia would have reared up.

  • @robertmolldius8643
    @robertmolldius8643 Před 3 lety +5

    Tja, det borde ligga en u-båt på botten i närheten av var bogvisiret bärgades i så fall.

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety

      @@maltimulti1919 nej stämmer inte. Man har alltid sagt att en ubåt träffade visiret.
      Det är först nu efter Dplay dokumentären några tomtar påstår att en ubåt träffat estonia på sidan

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety

      @@maltimulti1919 Jag lutar mer på att det är botten som orsakade hålet. Ubåt, torped Visir sånt är inte möjligt

  • @svilponis
    @svilponis Před 3 lety +3

    Was this submarine of Styrofoam? Any submarine that size would have caused much devastating damages in case of direct collision.

  • @aa12edd
    @aa12edd Před 2 lety

    Why they haven't found the wreck of the submarine. Underwater surveys were extensive during the search of bow visor.

  • @jperho81ify
    @jperho81ify Před 2 lety

    Where is Isabella you animation???

  • @aaremagi9142
    @aaremagi9142 Před 3 lety +8

    Väegade loogiline animatsioon.
    Muidu, poleks see laevukene, nii kiiresti uppunud.

  • @Biggie_Cheese470
    @Biggie_Cheese470 Před 2 lety

    The bow shield failed to protect from water and started flooding the car deck with water

  • @Mihkel_Jakson
    @Mihkel_Jakson Před 2 lety +2

    Давным давно уже понятно, что его взорвали, чтобы скрыть контрабанду.

  • @lloydisaacs415
    @lloydisaacs415 Před 3 lety

    I just seen a video on CZcams about the Estonia ferry and its a con to get you to view it and then you are stuck watching it

  • @Martin-wn5rc
    @Martin-wn5rc Před 2 lety +1

    There are lot of kinds of ideas about how the accident happened but no one knows it 100% And there will never be a answer

  • @nielskjr5432
    @nielskjr5432 Před 3 lety

    Colliding with a u-boat? Haven't heard that one before.

    • @pops7249
      @pops7249 Před 3 lety

      same

    • @jannejohansson3383
      @jannejohansson3383 Před 3 lety

      Was one of first "civil theory" and there is few other more.
      That "real reason" is one of those what's are unbelive. And this happened before Internet. Yes, there was some bbs:s and irc.

  • @GameOve500
    @GameOve500 Před 3 lety +2

    That was Fast and furious SUB

  • @adamthelittlejintyengine3130

    It didnt hit that sumberine it was at ruff waved the bow was going up and down and then it breaks and the ship starts to sink at the back and starts tilting when its almost fully tilted the power went off and then the ship meets its finnal plunge

    • @shinji5831
      @shinji5831 Před 3 lety +1

      True but what created the giant hole on the wreck of Estonia?

    • @harrie205
      @harrie205 Před 3 lety +2

      @@shinji5831 the whole is mainly above the waterline(non bus territory) and the hole was created by the part of the bow which broke hitting the hull

    • @mitte90
      @mitte90 Před 2 lety

      @@harrie205 how did the bow hit over the waterline?

  • @emilsgrinvalds1733
    @emilsgrinvalds1733 Před 2 lety +1

    Another theory is that there where russians if i remember and they had a drove a truck onboard the ship and they blowed the ships visor and thats the reason why it sank but ofc thats just a theory but in inmages you can see places where you can see a places where something exploded

  • @Wailot6
    @Wailot6 Před 2 lety

    It still doesn’t explain the holes though

  • @vladkutepoff5586
    @vladkutepoff5586 Před 2 lety +1

    Скорее всего мы никогда не узнаем всей правды про эту катастрофу. Правда погребена слишком глубоко.

  • @jussi798
    @jussi798 Před 3 lety

    What game is that?

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  Před 3 lety +1

      Its not a game, its animation

    • @jussi798
      @jussi798 Před 3 lety

      @@caljucotcas How you do that?

  • @BBP749
    @BBP749 Před rokem +2

    what are the chances a submarine hits a ship

  • @juharasanen7022
    @juharasanen7022 Před 2 lety

    The submarine, where is it? It allso have to be in the bottom of the sea.

  • @callmeadmin
    @callmeadmin Před 3 lety +4

    the problem is, that all the known military submarines are of dark grey color.

    • @serc7553
      @serc7553 Před 3 lety

      xD

    • @tytmoothare
      @tytmoothare Před 3 lety

      No. There are submarines partly white.

    • @marko1216
      @marko1216 Před 3 lety +4

      @@tytmoothare But No submarine Would me on the surface during a stormy weather

    • @tytmoothare
      @tytmoothare Před 3 lety

      True

    • @harrie205
      @harrie205 Před 3 lety

      @@marko1216 thats not true especially in the baltic sea

  • @chuckbucher4120
    @chuckbucher4120 Před 2 lety

    Sorry that this is totally inaccurate. There was no sub. There would have been obvious signs of destruction from an impact on the front hatch had this occurred.

  • @splash809
    @splash809 Před 3 lety +2

    The sub would just has been cut in half

    • @lennox_nzl4607
      @lennox_nzl4607 Před 3 lety +1

      It would have to be a weak submarine to get cut inhalf

  • @hammerblockREAL
    @hammerblockREAL Před 3 lety +3

    why did i do this 😂 i sayid "hello. i am under the water! pliz help me. ooohhooho"

  • @iangilleard2359
    @iangilleard2359 Před 3 lety

    Maybe the military cargo was taken from seabed and why they wanted to cover ship with stones or concrete

  • @Luuuugn
    @Luuuugn Před 2 lety

    But... wheres the sub? someone is gonna miss a sub man... but cool animation

  • @JohnAnderssonTV
    @JohnAnderssonTV Před 3 lety

    That would line up more with what survivors has said

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety +1

      Inge överlevande har sagt att dom sett en ubåt.

    • @JohnAnderssonTV
      @JohnAnderssonTV Před 2 lety

      @@elefteriosmouratidis En har visst sagt att han sett något i vattnet som kunde vara en ubåt. Men refererande mer händelseförloppet

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety +1

      @@JohnAnderssonTV Nej han sa aldrig att det är en ubåt. Han sa nått stort vitt som var flera meter brett och långt. Han vet inte hur en ubåt ser ut i vatten i höga vågor sa han. Så överdriv inte nu. Han kan omöjligt ha sett en ubåt. Efter smällarna o att han ser vatten komma in så ska han ta sig ut på båtdäck. Det tar flera minuter.

    • @JohnAnderssonTV
      @JohnAnderssonTV Před 2 lety

      @@elefteriosmouratidis Enligt egen utsaga var han uppe på bara en minut och tar hans ord före dit. Och nej, sa inte specifikt att det var en ubåt men nämnde det som en möjlighet precis som varvet i Tyskland så lägg ner själv

  • @sivinalappalainen184
    @sivinalappalainen184 Před 3 lety

    CCCP was secret training that area at night. They use torpedo. That reason people see and heard explosion.

  • @cringebaby2558
    @cringebaby2558 Před 3 lety +2

    What you don’t realise subs aren’t invisible. That sub would’ve been demolished, not to mention I could easily figure out a way to sink the Estonia with out leaving a a scrap of a clue for investigators

    • @lennox_nzl4607
      @lennox_nzl4607 Před 3 lety +1

      There was a huge hole found in. The wreck

    • @cringebaby2558
      @cringebaby2558 Před 3 lety +1

      @@lennox_nzl4607 the wrecks been there for along time and it would move around on the sea bed twisting and bending forming these wholes

    • @elefteriosmouratidis
      @elefteriosmouratidis Před 2 lety +1

      @@lennox_nzl4607 hålet kom till när Estonia träffade botten..

    • @Omega4Productions
      @Omega4Productions Před 2 lety

      Not to mention you'd feel if you hit something. The Titanic was a massive ship and only grazed the side of an iceberg, yet practically the whole ship felt the impact. A smaller ship like Estonia hitting a submarine head on would have caused enormous ruckus.

    • @cringebaby2558
      @cringebaby2558 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Omega4Productions literally yes!

  • @somerobloxvideos6102
    @somerobloxvideos6102 Před 3 lety

    nice

  • @Fireman834
    @Fireman834 Před 2 lety +1

    Это уже ближе к истине,похоже на правду! Если и была подводная лодка,то мы никогда не узнаем. И никто из стран не возьмёт на себя ответственность...

  • @LebneneWaFalastine
    @LebneneWaFalastine Před 3 lety

    This is completely wrong. the bow visor was removed by the Swedish authorities after the ship had sunk. That the bow visor had come loose is something Carl Bildt stated before someone had examined the ship. A ship does not sink because the bow visor comes loose, and a ship does not sink in 10-15 minutes, regardless of whether water leaks in from the bow visor. It is the ramp that seals up there and not the bow visor!

    • @anssil5640
      @anssil5640 Před 3 lety

      No, that is wrong. The bow visor separated from the ship before the sinking and it was found 1,5 kilometers west from the wreck itself. The wreck was found lying on the seabed at 120 degrees angle and the bow ramp was at closed position. The visor, however, wasn't there. Only but two of the hinges, that keep the bow ramp in place was broken and there was additional structural damage to the ramp beside the broken hinges. 2021 investigation has concluded that the ramp has now been separated from the ship and is lying there next to the bow. The car deck is now completely open. The wreck has been moving since 1994 due to the water flow and is now in 132 degrees angle (almost upside down) and has gone few meters deeper. It is likely that the movement and the change in the angle of the wreck has broken the two ramp hinges that were left.

  • @Gripenace
    @Gripenace Před 3 lety +8

    well, there should be a missing submarine resting at the bottom somewhere too then?

    • @caljucotcas
      @caljucotcas  Před 3 lety +3

      its unbreakable

    • @aledthomas2470
      @aledthomas2470 Před 3 lety +6

      The conning tower on a submarine is made to break through ice so it could easily survive such an impact

    • @AF-nc2fc
      @AF-nc2fc Před 3 lety

      It wouldn't surprise me if there is.

    • @user-bb7rh7xf6n
      @user-bb7rh7xf6n Před 3 lety +5

      This kind of crash isn't a problem for submarine due to its structure. It would survive easily without serious damage.

    • @yewisemountaingoat528
      @yewisemountaingoat528 Před 3 lety +9

      @@caljucotcas "its unbreakable" Omg. An *unbreakable* sub?? Please sign up for any military shipyard because they'll pay you a fortune if you can design an unbreakable sub. You're a genius. Listen. No sub is anywhere near unbreakable. Even the most advanced nuclear subs have imploded at merely 400 meters of depth.
      Seriously, what kind of an answer is "its unbreakable" ?? How old are you? 14? What are your qualifications? Are you an engineer which works with ship building? What makes you a self-appointed expert in such matters?