Definitely one of the greatest matches ever! The level of bowling in this match was off the chain! And Bob Learn bowling a 300 in his hometown in an arena setting makes it that much more special! I miss these days of pro bowling
man,I never ever had a bowling experience like this in my life. what a crowd what a players and what a brilliant result from both of them. every minute was worth it to watch this vid. thank you for the upload!
I met Bob and Johnny in 2007 at the Masters tournament and I told them both that was and STILL the GREATEST PBA Match I've ever seen.. I dont think that can ever be beaten
Wow good I couldn't watch as he threw the that last ball in the 10th frame 2 good bowlers a moment caught on tv that brought the crowd to its feet and got them all hype best footage I've seen it look like 2 warrior's going at it and it's in the 90s lol
+joaness45 Actually what really happened behind the scenes Joan, is the owner of the Bowling building has to fork over the 100,000 out of his own business.. Pro Bowling for many years actually hurt all those owners, and the earnings was always in the red and never in the black. The other reason is because you could not pack enough people in the building to make a profit. It was limited. One would need to have a building like an arena in order to make any money at all. Thirdly they did not have cover charge for people to come in to watch the tournament. Example >> First place the payout was like 75,000 , Second Place like 50,000 and all the way down to the 20th bowler. The purse itself was very high. Next the Pros had to pay a fee to bowl in that tournament I believe around 1.5 grand before PBA went under. In the earlier years it was around like 500 bucks. Many of these bowlers had sponsors who fronted up the money for them to travel to various places and also many of them traveled in Motorhomes. Why because I too was a Regional Pro in the 70's. I even worked on the side to supplement my income. It was not easy. Whatever a Bowler won, the sponsor gets a cut out of it, depending on the contracts given. Some paid out 20% up to 50%. Next if anyone of them hit a 300 game while on T.V., ouch goes to the bowling owner of the building. I can tell you they always prayed that no one gets a 300 during the T.V. finals. If one got a 300 during the rounds, there was no payout. For the Bowlers to make it, they had to win by total pin fall from 40 games to get to the T.V. rounds. Once there they had a match play of 3 games to get into the position rounds for the T.V finals. The top 8 bowlers were trying to win their matches > not by pin fall. Once the final 5 was set then came Sunday and that was the final T.V. round. By the way the tournaments started on Thursday morning to Saturday evening. Most pros arrived on Wednesday and did some practice rounds at the house that was hosting the tournament to get the feel of the lanes and its conditions. Those that did not make it by Saturday evening already left town to the next place that is on the schedule. Now Storm took over and also bought out the name PBA. The payouts is not as high as it used to be otherwise they too will go broke. First place most of the time is around 5 grand. The second place gets like 2,800, third like 2,400, fourth like 2 grand and 5th gets like 1,800. They now only pay out to the top 8 players and that is it!!!!. They now only have 3 major Tournaments a year and the first place prize is only 10 grand. If they get a 300 on the final game they get an extra 10 grand. That is all. So overall it got streamlined, downsized, and trimmed down, fixed it so they get more people to watch and they get money from T.V. and pay per view. All the bowling owners now are making money by this new format, and not the PBA bowlers anymore. Gone are the days of making big money in Bowling forever. The top bowler this year has only made about 200 grand and not more than that as far as I know. To do it, you have to keep winning make appearances, interviews etc., plus sell your name to storm and etc. This comes out to about near 4 grand a week. After this if there is a sponsor, they get their cut, and then you have to pay your income taxes like 35% of it. So by the time all is said and done, what you have left will be small indeed in the savings. Here is some math for you Hotel bill say 50 per night x 3 days =150 Food for 3 days 40 x 3 = 120 Travel ?? depends either by car or plane or train say 400 Sponsor gets 30% of whatever you win Sponsor pays up front your entry fees This is just a brief part. Now say you won 200 grand. Sponsor gets 30% = 60 grand Your expenses for 52 weeks = 34,840 Deduct now > you have 105,160. Taxes 35% > 36,806 and this leaves you with 68,354 in your bank account. Now if you have your own home, property taxes and if any kids or wife more taken as well. So by the time you are done you will be lucky to have for all your hard work winning every tournament or being in the top 5 consistently about 48 grand in your pocket!!!! If one makes the Triple Crown max pay out could be 30 to 40 grand depending on the scales by the owners itself. Most bowlers will average about 50 to 60 grand a year being in the circuit nowadays. People like Pete Weber or John Petraglia and others Norm Duke already have earned well over a million from their heydays in the 70 to 90"s They can survive easily on 50 grand a year bowling without a problem. Belmonte has only made 185,000 this year. He is averaging about 3,500 per week. Half of this is his side earnings like sponsoring for STORM or making appearances etc to various places, or interviews to get the people back into the game. So go half his bowling tournaments are averaging 1,800 per week. There you go.
+Daveyo747 Sorry...I thought it was an insurance policy that paid for any of the big bonuses in bowling, such as a 7-10 conversion on tv (a recent promo). Thank you for enlightening.
joaness45 Today to build a bowling house will cost somewhere around 10 million for 40 lanes. 250,000 is for just 4 lanes and then it can cost more up to 350 grand if the new owner wants more eye candy like UV lighting, or music and all that other extravaganza. Today prices average around 4-5 dollars per game, and maybe a bit more if in a league. When I was bowling it only cost me 50 cents!!!!! For me I did shadow bowling and practice my shots which I can do all day without spending any money at all. You can practice spot bowling which means you keep bowling to one certain area and spot till you have it down pat, and work around. Usually crowds would come and watch me practice, and sometimes my coaches would carefully watch my form etc. The key to winning is your approach and delivery time and time again without much variation. I am amazed at all the crap that they talk about on bowling balls today. Its mind boggling. Truly I would prefer to get a yellow dot Columbia 300 bowling ball, and have it fitted for me and I will beat any of the resin reaction balls in the market today, and all that scientific B.S., and still get my hook breakout at the back end. It would be in my favor due to the lanes being synthetic nowadays. Problem is PBA says hardness must be no lower than 72. The yellow dot goes down to 58
I don't think it was the gutters, but they definitely "tricked up" the lanes on the AMF arena installations. To start, the lanes were usually easy, and the pin decks were apparently upsloped slightly (that's according to Bo, so take it for what it's worth... lol). The tolerance level they set it at was just barely ABC-compliant (which they could do, b/c they were using the lanes for 3 hours) and that's why you saw all the high-trip strikes and no ringing-10s or 7s.
Not that this doesn't happen often, us individuals just don't see it every day. This is outside-the-box thinking. It may be happening at a bowling alley in the northernmost part of Maine. But of course, nobody cares.
Yep Yep. that's why you're on TV rolling twelve jacks.... Cuz it's just SOOOO easy....Just give the pro's a virtual high five and go work on your game like everyone else....They're Pros Because they can adapt instead of make excuses. They would figure out how to whoop ass with rocks and sticks.... Wake Up America!!!!! XD
Corey Covington you win the virtual award for understanding the difference between what we shoot on and what they shoot on. Let’s remember that’s in front of his hometown crowd too. Just a touch more pressure. That said Bob Learn was one of the best pros I’ve ever met. Had beers with him in Albany that year.
Still a great match to watch BUT..... this is when the PBA ratings were falling HARD.. I still believe that the gutter were raised just a bit (11th shot shows that) and a nice Christmas tree pattern was put down so these guys would kill them. High scores could equal more viewers. It was never said but there is a good chance this was the case. Exciting as hell though. 52 perfect game???? holy sh*t.
@nso1256 Though posing that question is proof that any answer will not benefit you, I will respond to benefit others. A sport or games purpose is to develop, perfect and showcase human technique, ability and endurance. When rules and/or technology diminish the role of the participant it fails to fulfill its purpose and will become stagnant and obsolete. (sigh)
@20alphabet I agree with the whole john petraglia plastic ball thing, but I think bob learn wouldn't be completely shut out. He has strong ball roll but petraglia is just a phenomenal bowler, so yes, learn wouldn't stand a chance.... I do feel like bowling is becoming too technological and is taking the athleticism out of the game. That I know.
Definitely one of the greatest matches ever! The level of bowling in this match was off the chain! And Bob Learn bowling a 300 in his hometown in an arena setting makes it that much more special! I miss these days of pro bowling
I love how all of his competitors were ecstatic for him, seemingly most of all Petraglia. Awesome match.
Johnny Petraglia is a class act.
one of the greatest matches of all time
That just might be the best 300 game ever bowled. All that pressure from your home town fans an also beating someone who shot 279. Amazing!
It really is. This is the pinnacle of bowling
Bowling will never be as good as this on TV. 🎳
man,I never ever had a bowling experience like this in my life. what a crowd what a players and what a brilliant result from both of them. every minute was worth it to watch this vid. thank you for the upload!
This is my favorite 300 game ever. I remember being 8 year old and rewatching the telecast on videotape. That last shot still gives me the chills
I met Bob and Johnny in 2007 at the Masters tournament and I told them both that was and STILL the GREATEST PBA Match I've ever seen.. I dont think that can ever be beaten
insane that you can shoot 279 and still lose. unreal how good pro bowlers are
The way JP handled it was class personafied!
Congratulations Bob LEARN on your 300. Nice game Johnny Petraglia.
I seen that tournament and Bob Learn bowl's an 848 series.
Great job.
Great game for Johnny Petraglia also
EPIC!! You can't get a better match than that.
dammit the PBA needs to get back to these Arena finals
Thanks for posting this. It really doesn't get better. And why did I ever get rid of my Fire Quantum?
what an awesome look at the pocket
The PBA needs to put this on Blu-Ray and sell it as a DVD..
The greatest televised match in bowling history.
this is one of the best matches ive ever seen ! holy shit!
ooohhhh man...I used to have that quantum ball!!!!! ... it was a hand me down when I 1st started bowling
Wow good I couldn't watch as he threw the that last ball in the 10th frame 2 good bowlers a moment caught on tv that brought the crowd to its feet and got them all hype best footage I've seen it look like 2 warrior's going at it and it's in the 90s lol
@Starcastle2009 You musta heard Randy talk about the greatest TV performance yesterday on bowling hahaha
the 300 game was only the start of an history making day for Bob Learn Jr
In a word...WOW !!!
Mike Pardue ✌
Epic
Johnny was 1 strike away from a 300-300 tie.
It's amazing how a televised 300 can be worth $100,000 or $10,000 depending on when it's done.
+joaness45 Actually what really happened behind the scenes Joan, is the owner of the Bowling building has to fork over the 100,000 out of his own business..
Pro Bowling for many years actually hurt all those owners, and the earnings was always in the red and never in the black. The other reason is because you could not pack enough people in the building to make a profit. It was limited. One would need to have a building like an arena in order to make any money at all. Thirdly they did not have cover charge for people to come in to watch the tournament.
Example >> First place the payout was like 75,000 , Second Place like 50,000 and all the way down to the 20th bowler. The purse itself was very high. Next the Pros had to pay a fee to bowl in that tournament I believe around 1.5 grand before PBA went under. In the earlier years it was around like 500 bucks. Many of these bowlers had sponsors who fronted up the money for them to travel to various places and also many of them traveled in Motorhomes. Why because I too was a Regional Pro in the 70's. I even worked on the side to supplement my income. It was not easy. Whatever a Bowler won, the sponsor gets a cut out of it, depending on the contracts given. Some paid out 20% up to 50%.
Next if anyone of them hit a 300 game while on T.V., ouch goes to the bowling owner of the building. I can tell you they always prayed that no one gets a 300 during the T.V. finals. If one got a 300 during the rounds, there was no payout. For the Bowlers to make it, they had to win by total pin fall from 40 games to get to the T.V. rounds. Once there they had a match play of 3 games to get into the position rounds for the T.V finals. The top 8 bowlers were trying to win their matches > not by pin fall. Once the final 5 was set then came Sunday and that was the final T.V. round.
By the way the tournaments started on Thursday morning to Saturday evening. Most pros arrived on Wednesday and did some practice rounds at the house that was hosting the tournament to get the feel of the lanes and its conditions. Those that did not make it by Saturday evening already left town to the next place that is on the schedule.
Now Storm took over and also bought out the name PBA. The payouts is not as high as it used to be otherwise they too will go broke. First place most of the time is around 5 grand. The second place gets like 2,800, third like 2,400, fourth like 2 grand and 5th gets like 1,800. They now only pay out to the top 8 players and that is it!!!!. They now only have 3 major Tournaments a year and the first place prize is only 10 grand. If they get a 300 on the final game they get an extra 10 grand. That is all.
So overall it got streamlined, downsized, and trimmed down, fixed it so they get more people to watch and they get money from T.V. and pay per view. All the bowling owners now are making money by this new format, and not the PBA bowlers anymore. Gone are the days of making big money in Bowling forever.
The top bowler this year has only made about 200 grand and not more than that as far as I know. To do it, you have to keep winning make appearances, interviews etc., plus sell your name to storm and etc. This comes out to about near 4 grand a week. After this if there is a sponsor, they get their cut, and then you have to pay your income taxes like 35% of it. So by the time all is said and done, what you have left will be small indeed in the savings.
Here is some math for you
Hotel bill say 50 per night x 3 days =150
Food for 3 days 40 x 3 = 120
Travel ?? depends either by car or plane or train say 400
Sponsor gets 30% of whatever you win
Sponsor pays up front your entry fees This is just a brief part.
Now say you won 200 grand. Sponsor gets 30% = 60 grand
Your expenses for 52 weeks = 34,840
Deduct now > you have 105,160.
Taxes 35% > 36,806 and this leaves you with 68,354 in your bank account. Now if you have your own home, property taxes and if any kids or wife more taken as well. So by the time you are done you will be lucky to have for all your hard work winning every tournament or being in the top 5 consistently about 48 grand in your pocket!!!!
If one makes the Triple Crown max pay out could be 30 to 40 grand depending on the scales by the owners itself. Most bowlers will average about 50 to 60 grand a year being in the circuit nowadays.
People like Pete Weber or John Petraglia and others Norm Duke already have earned well over a million from their heydays in the 70 to 90"s They can survive easily on 50 grand a year bowling without a problem.
Belmonte has only made 185,000 this year. He is averaging about 3,500 per week. Half of this is his side earnings like sponsoring for STORM or making appearances etc to various places, or interviews to get the people back into the game. So go half his bowling tournaments are averaging 1,800 per week. There you go.
+Daveyo747 Sorry...I thought it was an insurance policy that paid for any of the big bonuses in bowling, such as a 7-10 conversion on tv (a recent promo). Thank you for enlightening.
joaness45 Today to build a bowling house will cost somewhere around 10 million for 40 lanes.
250,000 is for just 4 lanes and then it can cost more up to 350 grand if the new owner wants more eye candy like UV lighting, or music and all that other extravaganza.
Today prices average around 4-5 dollars per game, and maybe a bit more if in a league. When I was bowling it only cost me 50 cents!!!!!
For me I did shadow bowling and practice my shots which I can do all day without spending any money at all. You can practice spot bowling which means you keep bowling to one certain area and spot till you have it down pat, and work around. Usually crowds would come and watch me practice, and sometimes my coaches would carefully watch my form etc. The key to winning is your approach and delivery time and time again without much variation.
I am amazed at all the crap that they talk about on bowling balls today. Its mind boggling.
Truly I would prefer to get a yellow dot Columbia 300 bowling ball, and have it fitted for me and I will beat any of the resin reaction balls in the market today, and all that scientific B.S., and still get my hook breakout at the back end. It would be in my favor due to the lanes being synthetic nowadays.
Problem is PBA says hardness must be no lower than 72. The yellow dot goes down to 58
@@Daveyo747 That's a really detailed explanation. How long were you touring?
@@ConquerCollin I was only a Regional Pro, (NOT A TOURING PRO,
What happened to the game of bowling? I have to drive an hour to the nearest center. Establishments are closing faster than I can keep up.
Yay
Now if you bowl a 300 it's only 10,000 :(
Sad that.
Nice stache Brandon!
This is kinda sad because of what the pba has become
I suddenly love Bob Learn Jr. a lot
Dang, Bob Learn's wife is gorgeous!
52 300 games in bob learn jr's career? Dam..
Joshua Schraa 52 as of 1996, I'm sure he has a lot more now, he's still a rather successful bowler on the senior tour.
Thats cool. Ive always liked his style of bowling.
There are guys in the 100s now. Search Beat the Champ out of Buffalo.
@Brian1969a No, he wouldn't "do just fine". Patraglia would send him packing.
I don't think it was the gutters, but they definitely "tricked up" the lanes on the AMF arena installations. To start, the lanes were usually easy, and the pin decks were apparently upsloped slightly (that's according to Bo, so take it for what it's worth... lol). The tolerance level they set it at was just barely ABC-compliant (which they could do, b/c they were using the lanes for 3 hours) and that's why you saw all the high-trip strikes and no ringing-10s or 7s.
Wall lol
Oh ok
Onions, baby!
Not that this doesn't happen often, us individuals just don't see it every day. This is outside-the-box thinking. It may be happening at a bowling alley in the northernmost part of Maine. But of course, nobody cares.
Altissimo nivel dos dois jogadores!
i wanna bowl on that pattern for a hundred thousand dollars :)
Yep Yep. that's why you're on TV rolling twelve jacks.... Cuz it's just SOOOO easy....Just give the pro's a virtual high five and go work on your game like everyone else....They're Pros Because they can adapt instead of make excuses. They would figure out how to whoop ass with rocks and sticks.... Wake Up America!!!!! XD
Corey Covington you win the virtual award for understanding the difference between what we shoot on and what they shoot on. Let’s remember that’s in front of his hometown crowd too. Just a touch more pressure. That said Bob Learn was one of the best pros I’ve ever met. Had beers with him in Albany that year.
Still a great match to watch BUT..... this is when the PBA ratings were falling HARD.. I still believe that the gutter were raised just a bit (11th shot shows that) and a nice Christmas tree pattern was put down so these guys would kill them. High scores could equal more viewers. It was never said but there is a good chance this was the case. Exciting as hell though. 52 perfect game???? holy sh*t.
@nso1256 Though posing that question is proof that any answer will not benefit you, I will respond to benefit others. A sport or games purpose is to develop, perfect and showcase human technique, ability and endurance. When rules and/or technology diminish the role of the participant it fails to fulfill its purpose and will become stagnant and obsolete. (sigh)
That sounds like a 40 lbs ball lol
Actually I have a friend who is PBA and she's the one who turned me onto it.
She? 😆lol
@steelydanbowler really? Where you from that shes "gorgeous"? oooooohhh no thanks here
@20alphabet
I agree with the whole john petraglia plastic ball thing, but I think bob learn wouldn't be completely shut out. He has strong ball roll but petraglia is just a phenomenal bowler, so yes, learn wouldn't stand a chance.... I do feel like bowling is becoming too technological and is taking the athleticism out of the game. That I know.
Give them both plastic balls and see what happens. Petraglia would still be capable of 279 (or more). Learn couldn't compete in a scratch league.
How many championships have you won on the Pro Tour you asshole?
You’re pretty stupid aren’t you