On Wednesday, we’re talking all about the expectations for women and standing up against bigotry.
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- On Wednesday, we’re talking all about the expectations for women when they reach a certain age and standing up against bigotry.
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Basically the point is, black people should absolutely not have to continuously be expected to create the space that is still necessary for racism to be dismantled. It's yet another form of oppression. It's not their responsibility to end racism when they're not the ones who started it.
I get your point. But also, it's good for black people to plant the seed into a racist's mind about how they feel. At the end, its the racist choice on which path they take.
black people are not the only victims of racism
At this moment Amanda knew she wasn’t returning to the real
Exactlyyyy. The fact that she is The only person on that panel with the college degree specifically for these kinds of topics and they didn't let her speak her piece first at the minimum, stressed me out.
Oh god Jeannie.. just listen
@Casablanca Durant It's true, she just made the vibe of the show so weird for no reason she's really smart though and I love her opinions on certain things, but she's really entitled
Jirah Lawrence I agree
@Casablanca Durant I'm curious into why you think her mindset was militant? Was it because she was PRO Black?
Thank you Loni!!! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 These are Fifty year olds with $$$ for beauty treatments, Nannies and access to a whole lifestyle that supports their livelihood, which is based on public image. Your average 50 y.o. may not have that time or those resources to do these things. ❤
But also, SO much of looking and feeling good isn't always about an expensive trainer, gym membership or chef.
Living a healthy, clean lifestyle is much easier than people think, you just have to be willing to do the research, the work and gain the discipline.
@@mckenzie.8653 As a 50 y.o. who has recently reaped the benefits of this, I completely agree with you. However, I still think its unfair to compare someone whose livelihood and lifestyle depends on keeping their image up, with your average WOC with little to no support and kids to raise. I wonder if JLo would look the same if she had those twins and a regular job with limited time and support system to do so. IJS
Gosh I'm so sorry for what you had to go through with your dad... But thanx for being a good person. You have a very valid point..
@@ruvarangutichareva560 ❤
Not to mention they have money for plastic surgery... 🤦🏽♀️
Thanks to Amanda for speaking up against racism since the beginning. Will miss her!
Where is she going???
@@sofiasanchez7054 She left the show.
@@tabiasimone8089 I had no idea... I lovee all of those women but I'll have to admit Tamera and Amanda were (and still are) my favorites and I'm so sad to watch them leave. It's definitely not going to be the same.
@@sofiasanchez7054 Same here, I'm curious how the show will do next season.
I prefer the show without her
Thank you Amanda!!! I am not a therapist chair to someone that oppresses me!! My only responsibility is to defend myself and carry on about my day. You must not experience a lot of racism if you think that’s something realistic for a black person to do. Are they consoling us once they harass or assault us??
THIS!! 👏🏽 👏🏽👏🏽
Say that sis!!!!!
@Casablanca Durant I see where you're coming from. I think it's still like Amanda said, "do that on someone else's time" there's nothing wrong with wanting to educate. Its good to have dialog and get someone to see a different perspective, but she's saying he's not gonna really learn from the conversation right then and there and more importantly being the target of racism and trying to reason with the racist perspective is exhausting. She doesn't feel minorities are obligated to have to be the one to teach him he's racist because we're not the one empowering him to feel like its okay. It's his comfort with being a white man and the people who validate that. So white people who benefit in the same capacity every day should be the ones to have that conversation with him. As the minority, we're busy dealing with the repercussions of said privilege. We've been trying to have these conversations for years.
This needs more recognition
Jeannie is so right about the dress age appropriate comment. People try to force you to look older or dress the way they feel you should in order to make them comfortable.
Amanda expressed everything I was feeling!!
Love how loni keeps it real and relates to us regular folks
I agree with Amanda. He realised he was alone, not that he was wrong.
And from personal experience, it’s very difficult and sometimes impossible to make a racist person question racism.
I recently had a conversation with two so called friends who I realised were racist. After they said a very racist thing about black people in front of me, I tried to make them realise that what they said was fucked up and not right. They never really got it. It’s so complex. The fact that I’m black, that they truly appreciated me as a friend, but were still racist shows how complex racism is. To me it’s not rational and when a person is not being rational it’s really hard to make them see reality as it really is.
I think it will take a lot of personal experience and work for those two girls to realise how dumb they were for saying what they said.
And this is funny how a few weeks back, I saw this segment and didn’t agree with Amanda. I really thought it was my job to educate racist people. But after this experience, I’m with Amanda, AIN’T NOBODY GOT TIME FOR THAT!
So true. It takes so much courage and energy to be discriminated against in one instance and then to decide to try to explain your feelings and why what was said is offensive, knowing that your explanation and feelings will be at risk for further rejection. I'd really rather not.
Rasheda Porter Exactly! It’s a lot of energy. And like Amanda said, most of them know when they’re saying racist stuff. It’s not an accident.
It’s really heartwarming to see people standing up for another the right way✨ Good job, folks👍🏼
Tamera it’s unrealistic to expect someone to stop u on the street and say “ur so busy I’m impressed by” lalala, it’s a passerby compliment!! It’s not always something that serious, she knows she’s beautiful!! 💖
Depends on the tone of the comment, so many are haters and really not kind. I am not as beautiful as Tamera but many do tell me i look like im in my 20s and im 43.
1. Its uncomfortable 2. There is no need for tones like its our fault we look a certain way and we should feel guilty for looking younger.
Would i like it if someone told me you look pretty for being a latina..or a fill in the blank. same exact thing for age. Its not a compliment.
They can say Tamera's pretty and stop there. There's no need to say "for a mom of two kids."
Gail A. It literally means “even in spite of having two kids you still kill it” because a lot of chicks have kids and use it as an excuse and let themselves go and don’t care. They are saying tamera is NOT one of those people it’s a compliment
Chelsea Robinson Read my previous comment for my response.
Exactly
This segment proves exactly why this show needed someone like Amanda. Those who are oppressed are not obligated to educate racists on racism. Jeannie tried to quiet Amanda multiple times just to say we should have tolerance for a racist...girl bye.
We have to remember that some people are not racists, they are just rude! I’m Caucasian but for Eastern Europe and many times told me “go back to your country” lol
@@nataliam6173 Two things can exist at once. He's racist and rude.
Thats NOT at all what Jeannie was trying to say... she was simply trying to say we can't just let people think what they were saying is right need to put them in there place and get down to the bottom of why they feel the way they do and educate them and try to find the good in them and open there hearts to a new way of thinking and understand people and the world so real change comes about!!
@@allysonmessina1785 Like I said, those who are oppressed are not obligated to teach or educate no one on their racisim, bigotry, discrimination, etc. And that man looks well over 30, so the consequences he face from such a comment is on him. And just like Amanda said, he was well aware of what he was doing.
@@allysonmessina1785 no the fact that you guys STILL A DONT get it means you guys are the problem
JLo and Shakira look amazing! But it is true that most woman don’t have the resources to look like celebs of the same age!
Exactly, if you're rich even if you have bad skin, your money gives you a better chance at the aging process.
It’s so annoying to hear people praise celebrities looking good for their age. When they can obviously afford not just surgery / cosmetic work, but the best personal trainers, chefs, makeup artists, stylists etc. It’s easy to look good then. It’s harder for regular people who do everything themselves and work a 9-5pm and have financial stress etc.
Not true. I totally disagree. This mindset is why people think celebs are not normal people. The same products they use are sold in stores near you for an affordable price. There are tutorial videos on how to do everything get fit, make up, learn etc. do the work and do less separating from reality. 9to 5 is 8 out of. 24 hrs. The reason why most celebs have a team is because they work much more than a 9 to 5.
Tyler Jacob Affordable prices? Are you deluded?
For real. This topic was so shallow 😑
Omg exacltyyyyyyyyyy ...instead of buying McDonald’s buy a pack of chicken breast .....instead of buying that soda buy a water ....ppl mentally are just lazy they are consumed with there emotional wants but don’t set a goal for themselves
Jog 20 min a day .....which is what u should already be mentally occupied with you only have one body u can’t tell me u can’t get away for 15 min ...buy a 24 pack of water bottles/fruit/veggies is all u need in life
That picture of Adrienne and Jeannie’s moms was so cute.
I agree and disagree with Amanda. Yes, there is no excuse for ignorance. At the same time, if you put a bunch of like-minded white people in a room to talk about racism, no progress will be made.
Jeannie “whatever” 😭😭 Shes like gorl relax 😩 Adrienne is an incredible hype girl tho no doubt about it
That was hilarious. Why did Adrienne find it necessary to mention that Alex is younger?
@@gaila.9852 Right the fact that she has to downplay another women / person to uploft jlo proves jlo isn't all she says she is
@@kenz-hi6rn What someone says about someone else does not determine that person's character. That is not how life works.
I like how this women and men stood up for this Hispanic man!!
So people need to change like come on now guys!! our country was doing good and now it's fallen apart because of racism and brutal aka(police)!!
Right
Your "country " aka AMERICA was never doing good or there wouldn't be such deep rooted systematic racism forced into your society for over 400+ years.
It was doing good?🥴
Uh, our country was not "doing good." Please do some research.
When was it doing good
Amanda... we needed you... I’m sorry they tried you and as a result we lost your necessary truths on ‘The Real.’ Either way I’m happy you got out of this situation, too, too much “subtle” gaslighting.
Rest in power Cicely Tyson. You were an amazing actress and human being, you will be greatly missed
This went into a conversation about coddling white people in conversations about racism, and that topic deserves its own chat. Idk for sure about other POC communities, but Black Americans have been having that particular argument for the entirety of our history. It's an interesting question to ponder, and a complex one that should be given some time.
I agree with Amanda here. The man 100% knew that what he was saying was racist.
fully agree with your comment!
@Casablanca Durant What do you mean?
Racism can be tought but one grows up and know the difference between wrong and right. My father is racist, i am not. Since i was little i remember i disagreed with my dad and for that and many other reasons my dad and i dont speak. Im glad people stand by others against racism. Ive been racially profiled and its been scary.
Do you mind my asking where your dad is from?
@@gaila.9852 the US/Spain
@@claudiaaa4268 Thanks for sharing. I'm glad you're your own person.
Whoever they bring on I just want Jeannie to be sitting next to Adrienne again
Americans are so sadly gaslight. That man was not ignorantly racist - he deliberately was disrespectful. Feigning innocence was his strategy to avoid accountability.
That’s the problem I have with people defending racists. In 2020 it’s willful ignorance. We have access to so much information about race. It’s not an innocent act.
What are you trying to say ????
Jeannie: “here’s why ☝🏼”
Nah, I’m with Amanda, gone figure your racism out somewhere else, “they’re ain’t finna be none of that in this school!” Is all that needed to be said
This is a great discussion! I was just discussing with others today about how much racism is both religious and political. Because people in the klan are actually taught that they are from the lineage of Jesus, and that it is their right to rule over everyone as they see fit and it is validated biblically. So they actually believe that when you tell them they are being racist that they are given the ability to rule over everyone else by God. That’s what’s very troubling as well. At least to me it’s troubling.
Yes! I’m from the Caribbean (Haiti), and that’s what the Spanish people used as arguments when they came to the Islands and killed majority of the Natives : “They don’t look like us, and they worship a different God. If my God is not their God, that means they are not on the same level as me since l’m saved and they’re not”.
And religion was later used the same way during slavery.
@@Anana315 and @Bronze_Cocoa, those are very truthful points. I'm even more curious though. Since both of you have come to understand that religion was and still is a driving force behind racism, do you ladies still believe in Christianity or any other religion, or are you conflicted?
Rasheda Porter Good question! I thought of that too. And I have a very long answer to that 😄
So yes I’m a Christian. But I don’t think Christianism is the problem. It’s the people who wrongly used religion as a way to confirm their racist beliefs.
And even if I’m a Christian I have a very particular way to look at religion and the different beliefs. I do really believe that whatever the religion, we all believe in a bigger power. Even if we represent it differently, that it manifests differently it is the same and only power. And to me religions are just different ways to express our faith, our love for the same God. If that makes sense... and when we look at every religions, they’re very different but so similar at the same time.
Maybe it’s a defence mechanism that helps me make peace with knowing that if colonisation didn’t happen, my faith would’ve been different. So it helps to know that even if it was, it would’ve been the same God, just another religion.
Or maybe it helps me be at peace with myself knowing that my religion participated in the suffering of my ancestors. Maybe, I don’t know.
But I know that it’s the only answer I have when I ask myself “if there are multiple religions, than only one can be right, what if we (christians) are wrong”. So I like to believe that we’re all right. And if that’s the case, than whether I still practiced Christianism or my ancestors’ religion, it doesn’t really matter at the end. Christianism is just the way I see God, the way I want to worship him, and the way it’s right for me to worship him.
I hope it all makes sense. I’m still figuring all of this out. Still trying to get closer to God so... yeah.
I hope nobody take offense to what I said. I’m still on a journey to strengthen my faith, and that’s what helps me make sense of all this.
@@Anana315 Yeah, I understand that the answer to this has to be complicated for a lot of people. But you're definitely right about the fact that religion is just different expressions or ideas of the same higher power. It's just that for some people, it's difficult to associate with one because of the evil they have all been used to justify.
Still, I appreciate your response. It really was a lengthy one! 😅 Though I don't fully agree with it, I can see where you're coming from and I respect that. ✊ I hope you'll finally get to make sense of it. After all, we're all trying to make sense of this life and everything in it. ☺
YES AMANDA YES 🙌🏽
Jeannie always tryna have the last word at the end NO AMANDA IS RIGHT!!
Exactly and she just is so inadequate for these topics. I thought finally there’s someone intelligent now Amanda’s gone. It’s back to nothing
lol FACTS!
@@MJ-vb7un They're all intelligent.
@@gaila.9852 Not on topics like this
@@kenz-hi6rn I stand by my comment.
I agree with Loni about racism!
The way Amanda called out Tamera for that comment 🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
I’m LIVING for these new video titles 😂
Hilarious
So terrible 💀
They are so unnecessarily long!
All we asked for were some air dates to be included, the usual way they wrote the titles was never the problem lol
thank god for amanda speaking up against some of those ignorant comments.
There are so many ways you can take care of yourself without having a lot of money.
I love Loni I like how you explain it
I don’t think Amanda looks young because she doesn’t drink. Tamara and Jeannie look really young for their age but they drink alcohol. Especially Tamara who drinks a lot of wine. I think most of the time it’s genetics.
Edit : I know alcohol really does accelerate aging but sometimes when people have it in their genes, it seems like it doesn’t really affect them that much. Just like some people who have a very unhealthy diet but still have beautiful skin and hair
I agree! For Amanda, not drinking probably plays a minor role in comparison to genetics.
AMANDA!!
These women are in their 40's and 50's and I'm in my 20's looking like their Aunt...😂😂😂😩
love you guys!
Yay!!! An actual new clip!! 🥰🥰
Amanda is 100% correct
Everyone is so hypersensitive. Tamera get out your feelings. You look good for a mom with two kids because it is unbelievable you look this good and have two kids to maintain...
My thoughts exactly.
She looks good. Period. There's no need to say the rest.
The Super Bowl feels like a decade ago
I agree!
Loni, Tam and Amanda need their own show
Jeanie's "whatever" to Adrienne was sooo unnecessary and rude
Thank you Amanda. People are stupid & brainwashed
I'm with Amanda. I don't think people are stupid. He knows what he blurted out, he knows it has to be offensive to at least some people. Even if he was serious, why couldn't the man just not be in Mexico? What does he have to stay in Mexico for? But saying racism is wrong and telling the man this is where the issue of racist kids comes from shuts it down and says we will not tolerate it. Then, to avoid being shut down again in public like that, he won't do it again. He will have seen the consequences and felt the embarrassment. I feel like asking the man to speak about his view more only enables it and will make him think it's OK to think the way he does. I respect Amanda a lot and I always find myself awed by her words and views. Love her.
He said it out loud because he knows how he talks when they are not videoing and the others who was in agreeance did not jump in to help him.
I'm surprised that no one commented on society's obsession with women's age and appearance in general. I think it's an important conversation for us all to have. No hate x I love Jeannie, Amanda, Loni, Tamera and Adrienne x
It starts at home.
I get it too and I’m only 30, I take it as a compliment but, I don’t consider myself old. I drink water like it’s my job , workout 3x/wk and I don’t eat junk food.
7:10 this made me cry immediatly. this is just so sad, how can someone say something like this. the man was sharing a very sad story about his kid suffering. this world is so messed up
this conversation gave me a headache but it was so great
They should’ve included Loni’s and Amanda’s mom too!
5:28 but Jeannie has admitted before on the show that her mom got botox done and hooked her up with her doctor so that she could get some too.
U ladies look pretty 👍👍
Loni is very realistic I’m agreed
I need you guys to talk about Lebanon 🇱🇧 They are going through an extreme crisis and tragedy. I constantly see The Real talk about how they represent people of color, but the show is lacking in discussing people of the Middle East/Muslims.
Rania They’re not filming right now
I’m sure that once they start filming again they’re gonna address most of the things that they’ve missed out on mentioning.
Rania they aren’t live right now unfortunately
Marcela Saenz hopefully 💚 and I don’t mean necessarily a video, but you know how they post memes on their CZcams community tab? They could post their condolences to the people that passed in Lebanon. Like yesterday they posted happy birthday to Obama and I think it was quite rude to not post about what happened.
@@rania3168 they did post about it
I’m so glad I know where the “ you need to leave” voice over came from
I agree with Jeanine ist time.
Jenny is exactly correct. Back in the day women why not given the opportunity to focus on themselves or their bodies. It was all about looking after other people. So by the time you got to 50 raising a family most women had let themselves go a bit.
I must say I do think the amount of money that these celebrities have also helps them in hiring private chefs and having the best workout facilities available etc of course that is going to help. So I don't know why people are surprised. I suppose you could say they are more just impressed.
Haha! Tamera's expression makes me think of Tajh
Amanda was so real, I miss her.
So like here’s my philosophy right... I believe the saying “ you look good for your age “ despite it being a compliment , I actually feel like it can come off like underhanded or backhanded because it comes off as if the person giving the compliment expects for the average 50 something year old to like actually age in their face... the same with women who have multiple children and have these bomb summer bodies some people say ‘ you look good for a woman that has 3 kids “ like you’re expecting for the, to let themselves go... so I think it’s a nice thing to say it’s just the extra verbiage that can throw certain people off
It’s not just your philosophy, I think that’s a common thought. Lol
Respect to the people who stup up for that mans RIGHT
I relate to tamera the most if she leaves I'm leaving she balances out with everyone
You guys are so amazing and it's my Birthday
Happy birthday
@@CW-qs9bk thanks and l am 12 years old
I love your name, Happy Birthday Amani !
@@lastlove1985 thanks
Happy birthday!
Anyone know whats happening with the real???
I know Tamera and Amanda have left.
Gnna miss the show if it goes off air.
Amanda was wayyyyy too real for the real chile. she spoke only facts
Amanda needs her own show ASAP!we're all tired of these ignorant racists !!!!
I love Amanda
where did that happen in michigan??? was that Saline schools?
edit: I KNEW IT
Really sad Tamera left the Real
We couldn't hear the rest of Amanda's sentence!?
loni bout salty af 😂😂😂😂😂
No. She was fine. Thanks.
she she “thanks” lmfao ok
@@denisecortez8907 Welcome 😂😂#BLM
She looks amazing for this is older ones
Hahaha, “actual kids”?
Amanda is too reasonable LMAOOOOOOO
That Wig Loni. Good Lord
20 years of making millions, getting approached by the best in every professional field, having trainers, babysitters that travel with you, top chefs and nutritionist, gym in your home, luxury and the love of fans to help you get through the day emotionally, spa treatments, best home facial tools, creams and make-up, best photo and video editors and you just had the nerve to ask, "How is this even possible?". 😂💀
Amanda is annoyed as HEEELLLLLL.
It’s that they’re talking about the Super Bowl Halftime show in August for me 🥴😬🤣 (Yes Ik it’s pre-recorded.. it’s a joke at how bad they run the YT channel)
This is pre-recorded...unless you’re being sarcastic
I plan to keep looking after myself even just making sure I wear my lipstick , have my hair done and wear what I want or like when I'm 95 old lady. Looking after yourself shouldn't depend on what society's tells us what is 'age appropriate '
I like 😁
Change cannot come if we demonize the people we disagree with. We should humanize them in hopes they will humanize others. So in sowing love, we reap love. In sow understanding, we reap understanding. But regardless of the situation, or even in war; somebody "always has to take a loss" for peace to be possible.
Loni is 100%
I loved loni’s point on the racist video. I thought she was 100% correct
Who is writing these long titles?
Im with Jeanie on this front!!!
I know people who look good for their age they work out 5 days a week even on holidays and for the days they do miss; they make it up by switch their days....on top of working a job ........ and they always unconsciously consciously shaming themselfs.....( , switch candy for gummy.... snacks for oatmeal bars.... Or just saying I can't have to much soda kidney stones n sodium.... , and some have a very surpressed appetite.... Wake up not hungry n if they do eat very little and drinking shake after gym that won't let them eat lunch on top of it ...( So it's counted in as a replacement shake..) it happen to me when I satrted... waking up ever day to work out... I'm so drozzy one eye open throwing on my shoes all I want to do is get to the gym... I'll eat when I get back ...😑😪 It's like second job when u get into it it becomes apart of u
I disagree with Jeannie. Adding a category to the compliment takes away from it.
let’s NOT give racist the ability to join the conversation. that’s what they want and I will, and hopefully y’all, will not give them that space. So yeah, I agree 100% with Amanda
At 10:48 why does Amanda ALWAYS talk over Jeanie? Like she’s already started her statement and she just blatantly ignores her
Hey Ladies it's the beans and rice
What's Jeannie's point at the very end?
RIGHT??!!
I have a question is this new or old
Old
Hi edagdwg sad as it is it's not going to change because more black people go though this other races treat each better sad but true face the truth being yourself is a real job linda j. Peace
I get what Amanda is saying. But she needs to stop acting like she is the spokesperson for the entire black community. There are plenty of black people willing to have that conversation and participate in discussions about race in a calm and peaceful manner.
I know more that aren’t than are
She has a platform and she's an activist. Sooo she has every right to speak on our behalf. And she speaks positively and got our backs. We need more Amandas out here. So stop trying to shutdown our generation of leaders!
lucky4evr1 💓💓💓
@@lucky4evr1 please don't twist what Im saying to make it mean something I never said. Of course she has a right to speak on it... she just shouldn't shut down other opinions like she's the only correct one.
Dammmmm tamera soooo beautiful
I’m with Amanda. He’s old enough to know wtf racism is! What are we supposed to talk about with him?! Tf
" then why don't you stay in Mexico" that's just a disgusting comment.
Tamera’s comment on how the room reacted to the racist man’s response; she said that she liked how the white people were not agreeing with him. By saying that, you are implying that you expect white people to be racist. That room was filled with people of many different races who didn’t agree. Thats the race you picked out to be racist? Anyone can be racist. It is a stereotype that you are feeding into when you say things like that. On another hand, You also said that there are stereotypes on Hispanics and black people... I’m sorry but this conversation was discussing Hispanics. Where was there racism in this situation to black people? There is racism against EVERY race on this earth. It’s unfortunate but it’s true. Not just black people experience racism. Every race does! Asian, middle-eastern, American Indian, etc. And yes even white! That is a stereotype in itself, that “white people do not have stereotypes.” They do! Every race does!