How do orcs multiply so fast?

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  • čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
  • #short 1 minute explanation of how Orcs multiply so quickly, and whether or not there are Orc women.
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  • @seekingabsolution1907
    @seekingabsolution1907 Před rokem +7336

    In fact they are so alike in voice and appearance that many people think there are no orc women and the orcs are manufactured in alchemical pits in the ground which is of course completely preposterous.

  • @justinian-the-great
    @justinian-the-great Před rokem +4212

    "Meat is back on the menu, BOYS!"
    "No Johnny, for the 5th and last time: WE ARE GIRLS!"

    • @yeomenim
      @yeomenim Před rokem +1

      Male or female dey all be part of DA BOYZ!!

    • @VivoYs-mg4uj
      @VivoYs-mg4uj Před rokem +93

      "Meats back on the menu.."...actually

    • @harrellt1405
      @harrellt1405 Před rokem +28

      Thats not the correct pronounce

    • @Bt-hl4cu
      @Bt-hl4cu Před rokem +46

      I saw an article saying there would be no possible way they knew what a menu was

    • @ZarisWhiteFoot
      @ZarisWhiteFoot Před rokem +37

      IT'S MA'AM

  • @bridgecross
    @bridgecross Před rokem +1970

    They memorized the tables. That's how they multiply so fast.

  • @ravenmoon5111
    @ravenmoon5111 Před rokem +1125

    Well mommy and daddy orc give each other a very special hug…

    • @automaticwriting4220
      @automaticwriting4220 Před rokem +38

      With the kissin and da huggin and da ribbon

    • @nicka7432
      @nicka7432 Před rokem +18

      Mouth hugz

    • @timesthree5757
      @timesthree5757 Před rokem +19

      Without consent I wager.

    • @ravenmoon5111
      @ravenmoon5111 Před rokem +10

      @@timesthree5757
      You are probably right

    • @cardboardbox191
      @cardboardbox191 Před rokem +1

      Dad Ork: When a mummy ork and a baby work have a special hug....
      Ork Son:They make a baby ork
      Dad Ork: A baby ork? If we only produced one little runt like you when we hugged we'd be hugged as a race son.

  • @milkinanime7047
    @milkinanime7047 Před rokem +2887

    I saw "orc" and went "cause they're mushrooms" not realizing it wasn't "ork"

  • @MosaidDeath
    @MosaidDeath Před 9 měsíci +230

    Imagine all those little orcs running around. Saruman’s Daycare.

    • @ManicPandaz
      @ManicPandaz Před 2 měsíci +9

      Orc children seem wrong. I always assumed the pooped out freshly grown like a mushroom in 40K or they were just pod people.

    • @SiiriCressey
      @SiiriCressey Před 29 dny +2

      @@ManicPandaz Orclets. Orclings. Orkids. Baborcs.

  • @SammytheStampede
    @SammytheStampede Před 3 měsíci +211

    “Evil doesn’t create: it corrupts and destroys.” J. R. R. Tolkien.

    • @Eric-gb9ty
      @Eric-gb9ty Před 3 měsíci +14

      Christian theology.

    • @user-knhgvg454g
      @user-knhgvg454g Před 3 měsíci +19

      Truth

    • @cornixdemetrius7883
      @cornixdemetrius7883 Před 3 měsíci +4

      So it's not evil to kill a human to use their rotting flesh as compost for soil and bones for bonemeal to make a forest.

    • @rafjas9850
      @rafjas9850 Před 3 měsíci +17

      ​@@cornixdemetrius7883Wow, its twisted and don't apply to quote

    • @worldtraveler930
      @worldtraveler930 Před 2 měsíci +3

      You can find in Tolkien's writings that orks were created from Pukel Men men thereby explaining Pukel Men's Hatred their Deep-seated Hatred of orks!!! 🤠👍

  • @CountKibblesNBits
    @CountKibblesNBits Před rokem +1285

    Sam: Hey boys! Look what I got here.
    *pulls out Frodo*
    Frodo: Where the orc women at?

    • @maxthepaladin2147
      @maxthepaladin2147 Před rokem +84

      *orcs chase them behind a rock*

    • @dragonfell5078
      @dragonfell5078 Před rokem +60

      I understood that reference

    • @scp-2348
      @scp-2348 Před rokem +31

      ​@@dragonfell5078Our Dark Lord is a Nearer!

    • @samboyd1828
      @samboyd1828 Před rokem +12

      ah, the only cut of LOTR that's 7 minutes long for modern syndication

    • @michaelkrull3331
      @michaelkrull3331 Před rokem +25

      ​@@scp-2348 Ro dog dang it! The Dark Lord is a n..(bell rings)

  • @ScrapperTBP
    @ScrapperTBP Před rokem +359

    I love the implication that outside of war and raiding the orcs are just constantly fucking

  • @NebMunb
    @NebMunb Před rokem +2667

    I wonder how long an orc-gasam lasts

    • @Fyrdman
      @Fyrdman Před rokem +181

      with pigs it lasts 30mins

    • @thedemogorgon1375
      @thedemogorgon1375 Před rokem +56

      @@Fyrdman that is not an orc

    • @NebMunb
      @NebMunb Před rokem +279

      @@thedemogorgon1375 Looks like pork's back on the menu, boys!

    • @NebMunb
      @NebMunb Před rokem +43

      @@Fyrdman Damn do I want to be a pig

    • @arthurduana9093
      @arthurduana9093 Před rokem +16

      I see what you did there 😂.

  • @rainmanslim4611
    @rainmanslim4611 Před rokem +907

    My headcanon was that female orcs lived in the fortresses and caverns the orcs live in, working in manufacturing, food production and home defence and the male orcs went out to fight, the orcs who secured kills and came back alive had their pick of females to breed with, after a short gestation period the orc females would birth more of a litter than a single orc who'd live in the fortress, the weakest would be killed by their fellow young orcs and the strongest would reach adulthood and either join the armies and raiding parties or join the manufacturing base.

    • @vincentlinsin6549
      @vincentlinsin6549 Před rokem +173

      That sounds a lot like how orcs in Dungeons and Dragons work, I can get behind this.

    • @k.d.8924
      @k.d.8924 Před rokem +53

      sounds plausible

    • @ap2811
      @ap2811 Před rokem +108

      I doubt that as infants or little toddlers, they'd go around knifing each other; perhaps the weakest die out of neglect, or their war-chief tell them to "put it out for the wolves and wargs to eat". As they grew into adolescence, though, I don't see why some particularly cunning orc-children might not take up their dad's blade and put it in the back of their enemy.

    • @keithkahler1327
      @keithkahler1327 Před rokem +28

      it would also be the orcs who survived, as many were felled, by the free peoples many of whom were superior in skill with both the Bow and the Blade

    • @Aureliano_Babilonia
      @Aureliano_Babilonia Před rokem +22

      Just remember the Spartans and you‘ll get the picture. Ancient Greeks were pretty shitty towards each other and other folks throughout their entire existence.

  • @sugarjumper45
    @sugarjumper45 Před rokem +362

    i imagine an Orcs standard of beauty would be "differnet" to ours.

    • @user-co3uc8vt7e
      @user-co3uc8vt7e Před rokem +1

      Tolkien's orcs have no standards of beauty, in fact, whenever they see something beautiful, they want to destroy or desecrate it. And as they hate themselves as well as every other orc, the concept of love or affection is similarly alien to them. If anything, they would mate out of pure malice, out of desire to inflict pain.

    • @marthvader14
      @marthvader14 Před rokem +1

      Our real life orcs, africans, also find their own women the least attractive and whites the most, as does every other race, so no, they probably have similar beauty standards

    • @sugarjumper45
      @sugarjumper45 Před rokem +16

      @@marthvader14 plus (aside from the flagrant racism) that ain’t even accurate. If I remember correctly my Tolkien’s admission, the Orcs were more styled after Mongolic people’s, not Africans.

    • @sugarjumper45
      @sugarjumper45 Před rokem +21

      @@marthvader14 also you’re talking of Africans as though they’re this monolithic block. Which on a continent the size Africa…. Well it betrays your ignorance.

    • @marthvader14
      @marthvader14 Před rokem +8

      @@sugarjumper45 You know you can ask a significant amount of people, compare their answers and recognize patterns 😱

  • @michaelthomas1916
    @michaelthomas1916 Před rokem +65

    I read somewhere that there are areas to the east of Mordor which are not quite as barren but are occupied by orcs, and that is where their actual cities and settlements (and families) reside.

    • @Matt_History
      @Matt_History Před 9 měsíci +14

      The areas east of mordor are settled by the Easterlings. A race of men. Orcs inhabit many places of Middle Earth a town or village typically wouldn't be their first choice

    • @tid06
      @tid06 Před 4 měsíci +30

      ​@@Matt_HistoryHe is talking about nurn, with the sea of Nurn which was a very fertile land inside Mordor. Sauron had to feed his armies somehow

    • @ombrepourpre7562
      @ombrepourpre7562 Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@tid06 yep,
      Also, the orcs live short life, with almost as great life force as the elves : which mean it as to become something...
      Like growing adult fast, and easily have many children's (opposed to the elves who struggle to have babies)
      You take some, you lose other. It's balance. And Morogt wanted a big army, fast.

  • @JordanTheMann
    @JordanTheMann Před rokem +118

    Looks like the breeding pool was kinda limited based on all the birth defects. Guessing they were all cousins.

    • @No1gamer
      @No1gamer Před 2 měsíci

      I actually wouldn't doubt if that's a factor here but they are corrupted and twisted elves in the first place.
      They were basically turned ugly in the first place then the population likely had to start inbreeding at some point, so yes
      Pretty fugly beings lol

    • @prone_to_drift7166
      @prone_to_drift7166 Před 2 měsíci +6

      Sweet Home Alabama

    • @weary867
      @weary867 Před 2 měsíci

      Like that one fake story, one man and one woman, there's gotta be incest going at some point

    • @Human_81
      @Human_81 Před 2 měsíci

      @@prone_to_drift7166I was gonna say thaaat 😭

  • @mckdgz4994
    @mckdgz4994 Před rokem +147

    I always thought Orcs were made out of cooked Mud like a cookie ..heated by fire and cooled with water and added some dark magic .thus they're given life .and the reason they can multiply fast bcoz of that way .like we've seen Saruman witnessed pulling out from the mud ..his first UrukHai race. 🤔😅

    • @dudemanbroguy3464
      @dudemanbroguy3464 Před rokem

      Uruk hai are made through sorcery, orcs are pretty much believed to be made through sexual reproduction.

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision Před rokem +42

      Funny u say that because that’s similar to an idea that Tolkien was playing with, that Orcs might’ve made out of clay/mud/dirt and animated by Melkor. Because Tolkien was never quite satisfied with his ideas on orc origins and never settled on one definitive version of their origin story.

    • @Randomdudefromtheinternet
      @Randomdudefromtheinternet Před rokem +14

      @@MerkhVisionI like the idea that it’s a combination of both. In Shadow of Mordor/War some orcs would mention getting sent to the vats to be brought back to life (if with your memories intact or a clean slate is up for debate even to them), so perhaps the vats could be used to keep a steady source of meat shields (live, fight, die, repeat) but to improve the orcs themselves, some “family planning” might be needed.

    • @tid06
      @tid06 Před 4 měsíci +5

      ​@@MerkhVision Yeah but he went back on that since only Eru could grant life to things. The same reason Aules dwarves were not alive until Eru granted them life.

    • @juliandacosta6841
      @juliandacosta6841 Před 3 měsíci +1

      ​@@tid06did he ever consider going further than that and making orcs fancy golems of sorts?
      Ogres might be twisted ents but they're basically moving rocks that stop moving in the sun. And dragons strike me as kind of made from inanimate stuff in regards to their origins.

  • @guyofminimalimportance7
    @guyofminimalimportance7 Před rokem +42

    A lot of extras in the Movies were actually women made to look like men. In Specific there weren't a lot of available male horseback-riders available in New-Zealand to act as the Rohan cavalry, so most of them were female riders with fake beards.

  • @ryanfairfoot263
    @ryanfairfoot263 Před rokem +73

    I imagined Orcs had an exceptionally fast pregnancy and maturation cycle in order for them to be so plentiful at all times. Similar to many animals. It wouldn't make sense to send these breeding Orcs into battle, being the limiting factor in propagation.
    Or they could have litters. Similar to the Skaven (rat men) of Warhammer fantasy. This would also match the corruption and mockery that Melkor aimed for.
    The latter makes more sense

    • @justanicemelon9963
      @justanicemelon9963 Před rokem +9

      How about both? It seems that Saruman could just whip up and army of hundreds of thousands of Orcs in a few hundred years, so it seems to be quite possible

  • @jacobelgan5196
    @jacobelgan5196 Před rokem +30

    Orc women before "the deed":
    "looks like meat's back on the menu!"

  • @duukn
    @duukn Před 2 měsíci +3

    Daddy how did orks multiply so fast?
    Well son, did you know Peter Jackson made a film

  • @AubergineMan.
    @AubergineMan. Před 3 měsíci +11

    You also can't forget their naturally incredible singing voice

    • @MrDibara
      @MrDibara Před 3 měsíci +2

      _"Where there's a whip, theeeere's a way~."_

  • @denimadept
    @denimadept Před rokem +45

    They're really good at arithmetic.

  • @dr.anaB777
    @dr.anaB777 Před 7 měsíci +13

    I imagine it like they breed together and the women don't produce babies, but birth half formed fetuses (kinda like kangaroos) who then crawl into the mud and grow there using the nutrition from the soil. And this is why we have that scene where the adult uruk hai is uncovered from the mud. That way we don't need to think about innocent baby uruk hai roaming about. And because they're birthing an entire litter of these and the gestation period is short, they multiply very quickly.

    • @richmondlandersenfells2238
      @richmondlandersenfells2238 Před 3 měsíci +1

      that does make sense after all.

    • @herpderp3916
      @herpderp3916 Před 2 měsíci

      That's actually an interesting idea. Dropping the half-formed fetuses into nutrient-rich mud where they gestate and grow rapidly into physical maturity. Completely gross, but a cool concept.

  • @hurin_thalion11
    @hurin_thalion11 Před rokem +162

    if you think about it, the orcs who created from the elves and therefore they are immortal too

    • @user-sf6gr9qw8x
      @user-sf6gr9qw8x Před rokem +17

      Only their souls if they still have one

    • @hurin_thalion11
      @hurin_thalion11 Před rokem +27

      "they're animals anyway, let them lose their souls"

    • @paulraines9635
      @paulraines9635 Před rokem +11

      @@hurin_thalion11 Damn, we weren't even talking about selling them dope.

    • @18Krieger
      @18Krieger Před rokem +54

      Orcs can become very old. Quite likely thousands of years but violence will end their life faster.

    • @michaelcollier3893
      @michaelcollier3893 Před rokem +90

      If you read carefully, when Shagrat & Gorbag are talking after Frodo's capture, both of them seem to remember the War of the Last Alliance.

  • @Likexner
    @Likexner Před rokem +239

    Q: Where are the orc women?
    A: Many of the orcs in the Jackson trilogy were _played_ by women.
    Thats not an answer. WHERE ARE THE ORC WOMEN???

    • @jgt2598
      @jgt2598 Před 3 měsíci +48

      Personally, I like the implication that they're *right there with the rest of the orcs* , they're just not sexually dimorphic enough to even be distinguishable. My head canon is that, as a magically engineered warrior race, they don't even have gender the way the others do since that just gets in the way of their primary purpose of fighting wars. 50% or so of the species just have different "bits" than the other 50% and they have extremely short gestation periods, birth litters of very independent young, and grow fast. I mean, if I were engineering what are basically organic combat droids I'd go as far as making them hermaphroditic and capable of parthenogenesis to maximize replacement potential.

    • @apollomars1678
      @apollomars1678 Před 2 měsíci

      Orcs come from orcus (latin). they are demons.
      They were created by taking the creation of the good gods and twisting and corrupting the true creation of the good gods, because Melkor wont create stuff, only corrupt, like Rings of Power.
      Orcs exist to destroy by their creation/breeding and live the natural order around them. (s. the transformation of Isengard by the production of an ork army)
      They are an industrial creation to destroy nature around them.
      As a twisted unnatural creation by pure evil to destroy nature....they dont have women....they are not male....they dont work in any natural way of a normal natural race like humans, elves, dwarfs, even ents.

    • @conorgillespie7832
      @conorgillespie7832 Před 2 měsíci

      ​@@jgt2598 My head Canon is they are Hermaphrodites... which I'm sorry but makes them even more creepy and twisted to me... Also they probably have every STI going. It's like having an Army of roided up Frank-N-Furters chasing after you.

    • @willatwood
      @willatwood Před 2 měsíci +5

      They all became men, it’s 2024. Jackson was just way ahead of the times

    • @PutItAway101
      @PutItAway101 Před 2 měsíci +5

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure the reason they used women is that if you're going to use heavy prosthetics, it's best to start off with a smaller head, so the end result doesn't look too big. That would allow them to create the ordinary orcs whose heads are approximately human sized, compared to the Uruk Hai who are obviously played by men, and their heads look big due to the size of the prosthetics on top of a man's head.

  • @_Fr49f13nd
    @_Fr49f13nd Před rokem +561

    I think Saruman bred humans with orcs to make the Uruk-hai and I don't think any human would breed with an orc willingly hahaha. Pure evil.

    • @zacktheartist609
      @zacktheartist609 Před rokem

      The orcs have a face not even a mother could love lol

    • @7Elvenpath
      @7Elvenpath Před rokem +91

      So he forced marriage a Human mating with an orc. Same thing, what we do when we created Pitbull puppy that forcing A terrier breed with a bulldog. And trained them to fight and made them agresif dogbreed breed. Yes, Pure Evil.

    • @_Fr49f13nd
      @_Fr49f13nd Před rokem +126

      @@7Elvenpath nah man. You got them all wrong. Pitbulls are good boys. Some of the best people I know are pittbulls. And I don't think Saruman staged elaborate wedding ceremonies for them...

    • @MegaBarnacle
      @MegaBarnacle Před rokem +8

      @@_Fr49f13nd for real

    • @rev.jonathanwint6038
      @rev.jonathanwint6038 Před rokem +1

      you obviously don't know humans very well... I just saw a CZcams video about a millionaire that got out on bail after raping a pig...

  • @etazeta674
    @etazeta674 Před 5 měsíci +41

    Brings a whole new meaning to "where there's a whip, there's a way"

    • @A_l_f_a_1
      @A_l_f_a_1 Před 20 dny +1

      🤨Is that what I think it is

  • @Manlikepegasus
    @Manlikepegasus Před 3 měsíci +7

    It’s likely very much akin to the beastmen in Warhammer fantasy. They are originally “created” from a specific situation/corruption of another living species, but then became a “natural” species so to speak. Now they repopulate in varying ways, and some ways are more obvious than others. We also need to remember that Sauron and Saruman were breeding orcs during a time when elves were not as abundant, and also likely a lot harder to capture/obtain(due to their lack of presence at that time). So we know that Saruman and Sauron were breeding orcs, but in a more “scientific”/“natural” way. So you could then infer that morgoth likely bred them in a similar way, but it’s more likely that he had to create them first by corrupting the elves with dark magic. Morgoth is a lot more powerful a being than Sauron or Saruman, and it’s very much within his capabilities to have powerful enough magic to create a completely new race from corrupting elves. I personally think it’s likely that they originally were created by twisting elves with magic, but that it was no longer necessary once they were “manifested” into the world. They essentially became a new part of the ecosystem, adapted, multiplied, evolved, etc. Now they repopulate/multiply in natural ways, and also can be bred through more “scientific” means(akin to like how humans mass breed livestock).

  • @thetrs1949
    @thetrs1949 Před rokem +6

    "Meat's back on the menu boys" has a whole new meaning now.

  • @elliothough7238
    @elliothough7238 Před rokem +11

    the subtle jab to Amazon got you a like from me

  • @johndelacruz1422
    @johndelacruz1422 Před rokem +57

    "First comes marriage"
    Reality:
    Young, dumb, and bold.

    • @wastrelperv
      @wastrelperv Před 10 měsíci +9

      With the elves, it's marriage first. Tolkien's elves had elvish (idealized Catholic-like) mindsets, thinking of them as just like humans isn't true to Tolkien.
      These are not DnD's chaotic good genderfluid elves with open relationships. Nor are they the Witcher's elves who think themselves so much better than humans despite partaking in the same depravity (looting, burning, killing, r*ping).

    • @arcticwulf5796
      @arcticwulf5796 Před 6 měsíci +1

      ​@@wastrelpervElrond was half elven and married and elf. So it's not like its all set in stone.

    • @wastrelperv
      @wastrelperv Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@arcticwulf5796 That doesn't contradict anything I said.

  • @danaxellind5211
    @danaxellind5211 Před 21 dnem

    "With orcs it's a bit more like the The Jerry Springer show" sounds about right lol

  • @Doenerwerfer
    @Doenerwerfer Před 3 měsíci +18

    "it's MA'AM!!!"

  • @kyle360123
    @kyle360123 Před rokem +5

    They were dug up from under trees in one of the movies (I think 2 towers) leading me to believe they're fungle growths like in warhammer

  • @femoman
    @femoman Před 9 měsíci +4

    I think even Tolkien himself said that, due to orcs reproducing sexually, it just stands to reason and logic that femalenorcs exist, there just weren't any named in the books.

  • @theiviachine
    @theiviachine Před 3 měsíci +3

    That first picture of the orc is out of pocket 😂

  • @Mike01029
    @Mike01029 Před rokem +35

    I can already imagine the orc waifus if there’s an anime version of the series

  • @malekithsilverheart2357
    @malekithsilverheart2357 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Tolkien stated there were in fact orc women, but they were not soldiers.

  • @deonking2648
    @deonking2648 Před rokem +3

    I died when he said they where dumb as bricks yo😂😂😂😂

  • @ColinPaddock
    @ColinPaddock Před 3 měsíci +3

    I always just figured orcs reproduced like Minecraft villagers. Two orcs come together with enough food in their bellies, and a little monster goes scurrying into the darkness.

    • @jankutac9753
      @jankutac9753 Před 3 měsíci

      I always thought the original story was written for children, so it can be just discarded if you are actually trying to create a fully functional LOTR world

    • @Human_81
      @Human_81 Před 2 měsíci

      Well… you got something right. Something is being put in someone’s belly.😭😳

  • @herrbear3049
    @herrbear3049 Před 2 měsíci

    You can’t tell me they’re not just goblin-elf halfbreeds

  • @leemastro9904
    @leemastro9904 Před 3 měsíci +6

    They didn’t have tv, video games, smartphones, computers, or the internet. What else are they going to do after a long day of rampaging, murdering, or torturing everyone else?

  • @enigmazero3082
    @enigmazero3082 Před rokem +35

    Dis oomie ain't know da first fing about Da Boyz.

    • @duyhungle9375
      @duyhungle9375 Před rokem +4

      Wrong bio weapon

    • @luciorodriguez1370
      @luciorodriguez1370 Před rokem +3

      Mushroom

    • @Omega403
      @Omega403 Před rokem +3

      I love that the Orks whole shtick is they are descended from weapons the old ones forgot to make an off switch for😅

  • @AtaMarKat
    @AtaMarKat Před 10 měsíci +4

    Tolkien wrote that Orcs, like all other mammals, are sexually dimorphic, but that because he only wrote of Orcs going to war and never Orcs at home, we never met any Orc women, because Orcs don’t send their women to war.

  • @ismellthecheeze6436

    The women who played those orcs actually had the head and face structure for some good deformation and making the orcs look ragged and hidious

  • @user-zs9bg6in1l
    @user-zs9bg6in1l Před rokem +11

    Orc: "I'm starvin"
    "There ain't enough maggot'y bread for 3 stinkin days!"

  • @monkeydust100
    @monkeydust100 Před rokem +14

    If they hold hands and kiss at the same time, boom baby.

    • @Human_81
      @Human_81 Před 2 měsíci

      Uhmm… it’s a bit more complicated than that… heh.. 😭😏

  • @elite_rock_god2292
    @elite_rock_god2292 Před 2 měsíci

    This is something I wondered for a long time, the elf's populate very slowly but the orcs for some reason are breeding at fucking super speeds😂

  • @user-py2nw8bp1i
    @user-py2nw8bp1i Před 2 měsíci

    “Ah shit we’re outnumbered and need troops fast”
    “Alright get the girls over here”

  • @IAmProdAG
    @IAmProdAG Před rokem +5

    Love the part where he explains how Orcs multiply so fast

  • @PurpleArkStudio
    @PurpleArkStudio Před rokem +5

    Ahh yes the middle earth version of the birds and the bees.

  • @aminmian7291
    @aminmian7291 Před 2 měsíci

    Here I was thinking they come from spores when another dies in battle or when they are in a "WAARG!" state, they passive spew out spores.
    Oh wait, that's warhammer 40k.

  • @gasfrommyanusi0i594
    @gasfrommyanusi0i594 Před 3 měsíci +54

    Rings of power ain't canon. Hell it's not even fan fiction.

  • @alwinw64
    @alwinw64 Před rokem +11

    he did say they were dumb 🍻

  • @apolloknight9521
    @apolloknight9521 Před rokem +39

    I thought they breed through spores…

    • @QixTheDS
      @QixTheDS Před rokem +20

      This ain’t warhammer

    • @kathev9050
      @kathev9050 Před rokem

      This is isekai. Orc here comes from female elven knight.
      😭

    • @wastrelperv
      @wastrelperv Před 10 měsíci +11

      ​@@kathev9050I hate that trope so much.. Producing through r*pe alone is just so inefficient and unlikely to succeed. I've always preferred female monsters (who look just as monstrous as the males) as being part of the equation. It makes much more sense and it's so much less cruel and disgusting.
      I also like how Warhammer handles most their monstrous races. Lizardmen have spawning pools, orcs and goblins are fungi (spores), skaven have females (typically turned into broodmothers through science/magic), and beastmen have females but also can reproduce through r*pe including with livestock (gross but I really like that, makes sense in a world of chaos shenanigans).

    • @A_l_f_a_1
      @A_l_f_a_1 Před 20 dny +1

      Bro

  • @adamaraneta8709
    @adamaraneta8709 Před 8 měsíci +1

    “With orcs, it’s like the jerry springer show” fuckin killed me

  • @tysonm2525
    @tysonm2525 Před 2 měsíci

    Wait, I wasn’t prepared for the TALK!

  • @DirtCobaine
    @DirtCobaine Před rokem +4

    Then there’s the uruk hai. Who are tall, built, smart and don’t fear the sun. As well as the Olog-hai which were even more fearsome than the Uruk-hai because they’re basically the troll equivalent of Uruk-hai

  • @Eckskalibur
    @Eckskalibur Před rokem +10

    ‘Cuz they’re part mush-
    Whoops, wrong IP.

  • @HeadbutKneecap
    @HeadbutKneecap Před 2 měsíci

    Imagine walking into a cave and just seeing an orc pile drive another orc

  • @wildbill9490
    @wildbill9490 Před měsícem

    According to the non-canon MERP game, orcs are fully mature by age nine. That would certainly explain their “productivity”.

  • @YuuSHiiiN
    @YuuSHiiiN Před rokem +11

    Lok'tar Ogar! For the Horde!

  • @ffarkasm
    @ffarkasm Před 3 měsíci +3

    you know, bees and flowers

  • @RobertWF42
    @RobertWF42 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Next question: What did all these Orcs eat? They weren't growing crops in the dungeons of Utumno. My guess is, like Elves, they didn't have to eat a whole lot.

  • @ericstaples7220
    @ericstaples7220 Před 3 měsíci +2

    They hired women to play male orcs in the movies, because with their smaller faces they have more room to build upon with prosthetics. They were indeed playing male orcs.

    • @herpderp3916
      @herpderp3916 Před 2 měsíci

      Being an orc extra in LOTR was probably tons of fun, aside from having to sit still for hours to get the makeup and prosthetics applied.

  • @codyspegel6317
    @codyspegel6317 Před rokem +12

    Witch King of Angmar was probably scared as hell surrounded by Orc womenfolk

    • @Abegilr_Dragonrider
      @Abegilr_Dragonrider Před rokem

      No man could kill him, so basically every orc, male or female, could.

    • @mrrodriguezHLP
      @mrrodriguezHLP Před rokem +3

      Scared? Or inspiration for new fanfic?

    • @Weather-more
      @Weather-more Před rokem

      ​@@mrrodriguezHLPIf you have one send the link.

    • @MerkhVision
      @MerkhVision Před rokem

      @@Weather-more shame on you Lmfao

    • @Weather-more
      @Weather-more Před rokem

      @@MerkhVision Not everyone can resist the shadows. I am sorry.

  • @kevinkandra3862
    @kevinkandra3862 Před 3 měsíci +17

    Orc voice - “ I identify as a woman grrrrrrrr”

  • @Evamme534
    @Evamme534 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Orcs 🤝 Dwarves
    People cant tell the difference between the men and the women

  • @Baribrotzer
    @Baribrotzer Před 9 dny

    I had figured that most of the orc women worked on the huge farms around the Sea of Rhun, and raised their children - who are born in litters of four to six, and are mature by the age of eight. Those farms are also where the Orcs' rations come from.

  • @lenardbordo9838
    @lenardbordo9838 Před 3 měsíci +3

    I just want to point out that the theory of Melkor creating the Orcs out of corrupted Elves isn't 100% canon. Treebeard for example said that Orcs were created in the mockery of the Elves.
    While it is possible that corrupted Elves helped Melkor create the Orcs, from what I read Tolkien died before he really figured out the Orcs origins.

    • @bloodoftheunicorns2621
      @bloodoftheunicorns2621 Před 2 měsíci

      Created in the mockery of elves, doesn’t mean they weren’t created out of corrupted elves.

    • @lenardbordo9838
      @lenardbordo9838 Před 2 měsíci

      @@bloodoftheunicorns2621 No, but Tolkien never explicitly confirmed it either, wich is why I prefer thinking of the Orcs as: A) a generic term for most beings corrupted by Melkor, or B) a "natural" race that ended up corrupted by the first dark lord.

    • @bloodoftheunicorns2621
      @bloodoftheunicorns2621 Před 2 měsíci

      @@lenardbordo9838 Probably a bit of both.

  • @ryan-pp6bg
    @ryan-pp6bg Před rokem +3

    Morgoth had the orcs doing the Amish thing called "soaking" if any of you know what I'm talking about 😂

  • @pittland44
    @pittland44 Před 3 měsíci

    As Tolkien himself said "they multiplied in the manner of the children of Illuvatar," that means that orcs get their freak on just as men and elves do.

  • @sigma2.093
    @sigma2.093 Před 2 měsíci

    Back in the Third Age, the orcs were the first to download the calculator app on their smartphones.

  • @SuperChristian808
    @SuperChristian808 Před rokem +3

    Maybe they have brood mother like dark spawn

  • @lordhelmet9066
    @lordhelmet9066 Před rokem +3

    Goblins came first then orcs and it was goblins that were allergic to the sun. Elves were bread with goblins and magic to make orcs....

    • @argaveus101
      @argaveus101 Před 2 měsíci

      orcs and goblins are the same thing in the setting, just different words

  • @richmondlandersenfells2238
    @richmondlandersenfells2238 Před 3 měsíci +1

    It's like looking at dwarf women. except they're more numerous than dwarf women.

  • @abe881
    @abe881 Před měsícem

    I always assumed they sprung out the holes in the ground.
    Like dwarves.

  • @eminum7777
    @eminum7777 Před 2 měsíci +3

    When putin announces a new mobilization.

  • @hollandia86
    @hollandia86 Před 2 měsíci +3

    Tolkien disliked the idea that a demon/devil like creature could create life so Orcs are more manufactured than born

  • @tzerpa9446
    @tzerpa9446 Před rokem +1

    They learn their multiplication facts at school, from 0 to 10. They're good at algebra.

  • @capncake8837
    @capncake8837 Před rokem +2

    There aren’t really that many female warriors seen in LOTR. There are a few notable ones, but that’s it. So it stands to reason that all the orc women, much like the dwarf women and Hobbit women, are back home. Additionally, long periods of time passed between each war that the orcs had to participate in, giving them a lot of time to multiply.

  • @venkelos6996
    @venkelos6996 Před rokem +12

    I tend to support the idea that the Orcs were tortured, and mutilated from Elves, to become what they now are, and that it's mostly Morgoth's fault, but one thing I don't understand is how he changed them spiritually so much? I don't believe that Orcs are immortal, and only die via violence, even though that would probably be what kills then either way, but Elves ARE ageless, so what happened? How did Morgoth rip their immortality from them? Why don't their souls still travel to the Halls of Mandos? Morgoth didnt create their souls; he couldn't, so why are they so different? Did he strip their agelessness from them, just to tack it onto the dragons he was forging?

    • @michaelcollier3893
      @michaelcollier3893 Před rokem +18

      It's never stated openly, but if you notice when Shagrat & Gorbag are talking after Frodo's capture, they seem to be reminiscing about the War of the Last Alliance. 3000 yrs+, & both are still in prime fighting shape, so the implication is that they remain immortal. Also explains their numbers, since without a limited reproductive window like humans, they can be steadily pumping out new recruits for centuries at a time.

    • @zachj2379
      @zachj2379 Před rokem +10

      Tolkien adresse this in the nature of middle earth. He says that when melkor tortured the elves, their fea, spirits, left their bodies and fled to the halls of Mandos. However, their bodies remained alive and resulted in what we now call orcs

    • @richmondlandersenfells2238
      @richmondlandersenfells2238 Před 3 měsíci +2

      ​@@zachj2379that is really depressing to think off.

    • @argaveus101
      @argaveus101 Před 2 měsíci

      @@michaelcollier3893 Tolkien said that the orcs are not immortal, and if not killed by violence or illness will age and die. He also said that they have shorter life spans than humans.

    • @michaelcollier3893
      @michaelcollier3893 Před měsícem

      @@argaveus101 I've never heard that. If it comes from Tolkien's later writings, remember that Christopher Tolkien said much of those were philosophical musings (basically Tolkien asking himself 'what if') and they directly contradicted his earlier work. It also makes no sense within the story. See above post about them being soulless. That would make them essentially zombies. Yet they reproduced naturally, had emotions, ambitions, creativity, needed food, rest & medicine for injuries. They also could not have been so short-lived. Bolg was the son of Azog, killed at Moria. Bolg was killed at Erebor 142 years later, & was still fit to fight. That puts them on par with dwarves at minimum, but there are other points aside from my earlier example where orcs seem to be referencing long expanses of time.

  • @emperor002002
    @emperor002002 Před rokem +9

    I like the reproduction cycle of the Orcs from Warhammer 40K best.

    • @mrrodriguezHLP
      @mrrodriguezHLP Před rokem +2

      Thas ORKS! Yah git! DA KAY IZ SILENT!!!

    • @684avatar
      @684avatar Před rokem

      I don’t. The biology of it makes no sense but it’s warhammer after all lol

    • @emperor002002
      @emperor002002 Před rokem

      @@684avatar Well if they set foot on a planet it's only a matter of time until game over. Kill them and spores galore.

  • @braxton7753
    @braxton7753 Před 2 měsíci +2

    I'd say it is because of the low poverty level they live at, poor sexual education and a lack of male role models, also known as fathers. I have never seen the statistics but I would wager there is a fair amount of orc on orc crime as well. Sauron and Saruman should both be held accountable in my opinion.

  • @williamsu7918
    @williamsu7918 Před 13 dny

    they probably have some elves in an dungeon somehwere

  • @eobardthawne3333
    @eobardthawne3333 Před rokem +6

    I thought they grew from mushrooms.

  • @alexstraz
    @alexstraz Před rokem +23

    Why was uruk kai? Pulled out of a flesh sack in the second movie of LoTR? I thought this was their birth

    • @josericardomartinezramirez4113
      @josericardomartinezramirez4113 Před rokem +24

      peter jackson took many creative liberties creating the movies. that method was used as an allegory in the writtings that jackson used in a literal way so to not imply orc sex.

    • @R2D2xC23
      @R2D2xC23 Před rokem +9

      Yeah...
      Because of that scene
      I thought Sauron used dark magic to resurrect the dead men and elf to uruk kai...

    • @josericardomartinezramirez4113
      @josericardomartinezramirez4113 Před rokem +16

      @@R2D2xC23 tolkien used the phrase "born in mud and slime" in a literary way to call the orcs "dirty beings", similar of lets say you would call someone "pig" or "scum", but jackson did it in a literal way. tolkien said orcs are elves so they reproduce the same way, and urukai are a combination of orc and human, so orcs basically r*pe human women to create hybrids.

    • @Comrade_Marius
      @Comrade_Marius Před rokem +14

      @@josericardomartinezramirez4113 Uruk hai are not bred with human, they’re just a better breed. Orcs bred with humans already exist separately as Orc-men/half orcs, never seen in the movies tho

    • @maxmillan5195
      @maxmillan5195 Před rokem +5

      now I know why they call Adar father. OMG.

  • @phatec
    @phatec Před 2 měsíci

    Everything in anime about orcs and goblins is that they breed the old fashioned way with every race, their offspring takes just days to birth. Re:Monster it’s a good anime about it.

  • @user-xs2bf6vb9t
    @user-xs2bf6vb9t Před 2 měsíci +1

    Goblin Slayer shows you how this works

  • @dionshaewishum4179
    @dionshaewishum4179 Před rokem +4

    You would think considering the origin of orcs, they would be more powerful and maybe use some archaic type magic. Tolkien may have underutilized the orcs. Their society would have been fascinating if he had more grey areas in his work. With Tolkien was usually “good or evil” and little in between.

    • @user-co3uc8vt7e
      @user-co3uc8vt7e Před rokem +5

      Tolkien wrote his orcs as antithesis of everything good or respectable. Even giving them skills with machinery was an act of evil in his eyes, probably because of WWI trauma.

    • @waltonsmith7210
      @waltonsmith7210 Před rokem +3

      Theres plenty of grey areas in Tolkiens work...just not orcs.

  • @just_joe4now275
    @just_joe4now275 Před rokem +8

    JERRYJERRYJERRYJERRY

  • @LordHypnos4
    @LordHypnos4 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Calculators, their technology is ahead of their time

  • @ricoyola
    @ricoyola Před 2 měsíci +2

    I still don’t get it.. I just think Orcs mate with an underground queen who would lay hundreds of eggs.😂

  • @shadefelblade
    @shadefelblade Před rokem +5

    Shadow of mordor has a different way for orcs but mainly uruk-hai but I'm pretty sure it applies to regular uruk as well so they're basically vat grown

    • @Matt_History
      @Matt_History Před 9 měsíci

      There shouldn't be any Uruk-Hai in shadow of mordor, and the at scene shouldn't exist in the movies either as there's no evidence in the books of them being formed that way

  • @mohammadhazraty2372
    @mohammadhazraty2372 Před rokem +4

    Didn't they breed in vats? I clearly remember Saruman breeding Uruk hais in vats, and shadow of war orcs mention vats

    • @Matt_History
      @Matt_History Před 9 měsíci +2

      Uruk-Hai aren't necessarily made in Vats, that's a movie invention. And the Shadow games are not a source as they openly contradict the history established in the books making them non canon (like Minas Ithil being taken in a Siege, or there being an Ent-Wife East of Mordor etc)

    • @juliandacosta6841
      @juliandacosta6841 Před 3 měsíci

      Tolkien flip flopped. I like to think that saruman didn't solve the sunlight problem, and just dipped his orcs in some mud to shield them from the sun.

  • @willr2411
    @willr2411 Před 2 měsíci

    Milk of Elvin kindness

  • @Martin1519
    @Martin1519 Před 2 měsíci

    They literally had a scene where they were making orcs in cauldrons from mud and god knows what els.

  • @shirtlessviking9225
    @shirtlessviking9225 Před rokem +3

    no, they lay eggs. (jk)

  • @voster77hh
    @voster77hh Před rokem +8

    Breeding Orcs is like living in a trailer parc (or backwater Russia).

    • @mikrophone8499
      @mikrophone8499 Před rokem

      Or in the plains of African savanna which Tolkien was thinking of.

  • @nfamus601
    @nfamus601 Před 2 měsíci

    Candlelight dinners and a little Luther Vandross. 😌

  • @Mulletmanalive
    @Mulletmanalive Před 2 měsíci

    In the third age, I honestly assumed orcs were basically just the goblins from Goblinslayer as that’s what the Isengard breeding pits seemed like to my 13 year old brain.
    In the other hand, if they had litters, their udders would mostly retract outside of flush, so female orcs would be indistinguishable in armour. If you want a bit of default savagery, perhaps female orcs only enter oestrus when they eat the heart of a sentient being.