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- Äas pĆidĂĄn 23. 03. 2023
- Steve Nicol and Gab Marcotti get into a heated debate following the sacking of Julian Nagelsmann and the hiring of Thomas Tuchel at Bayern Munich.
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Imagine winning 8/8 UCL games, scoring 112 goals, losing 3 times all season and only sitting one point off of Dortmund at the top but still getting sacked
Ridiculous smells fishy
Bayern' broad of directors are a group of troublesome assholes. Head coach must have good personal relation skill to please those old seafood. Nagelsmann isn't that kind of person. Unfortunately Tuchel is also not that type of person. Tuchel will be out soon the same reasons as Nagelsmann.
Tell me you are not watching Bayern games without telling me you are not watching Bayern games
im a bayern fan i watch all their games and i was never convinced with the way they played, i cant remember a dominant win under naggelsman , we also beat very average inter barca and psg sides lets be honest. losing against leverkusen a team that played 3 days earlier away in europa league after bayern got a whole weeks rest was the nail in the coffin for him
@@2bocamipalo I agree Bayern have not been great this season and as the season has progressed they have become a little less aggressive but it is still not enough to sack the coach at this time
I've never seen Gab go this hard. He was not playing around today. đ
Never get in the middle of an argument between a Scotsman and an Italian LOL
then u haven't clearly seen argument between muslim and hindu..specially owaisi and yadav..
â@@mr.sporty2094 talking about bacon lol
Heâs barely Italian
â@@rossmarshall6960 Or a cow đ
â@@mr.sporty2094 why do you bring up religion into a decision about sports? Did anyone discuss your beliefs here? This is not good.
That sacking feels weird. It just doesn't make much sense. A coach doesn't just get fired 2 months before the end of the season just based on play style. Nagelsmann still could have finished the season with many silverwares.
It would be funny to see Tuchel win the UCL again, finishing another coache's run.
Theres more to it for sure, we wonât find out until later on. They bought him for a record fee and gave him a 5 year deal, makes no sense at all.
It does make sense. Tuchel is the best and Spurs were about to get him.
@focusandefficiency9359 i am not Tuchel but if he wanted the job so bad he would have waited till the end of the season. Bayern could have signed a preagreement with him to guarantee the job. Spurs is not such a great destination
Especially when they're only a point off top spot....
@@jacquesm1553 but what if Bayern is thinking now this season? not the end when they could end up with nothing.i think they had to act immediately
i chuckled when Gabs said you dont give a five year deal unless u are pep guardiola or GRAHAM POTTER đ
đđđ hey leave Chelsea out of this. For once, weâre not the cause of football drama lol
Gab has a point. Bayern have done well under nagelsmann so far. Winning every single champions league game this season and only conceeding 2 goals, also have the chance to go back top of the table in they beat dortmund after the international break. and to get thomas tuchel who is a very pragmatic manager makes no sense for bayern munich. Nagelsmann sacking has to be related to something off the pitch because he's results dont deserve this.
I agree with you, I feel Bayern will regret this.
there are stories Regarding nagelsmann girlfriend now, who is also leaving her reporters job.
Why is everyone talking about the CL alone he has been outsmart by Bundesliga managers. His team have been slow in the build up play lack of rotation and defensively in the Bundesliga they have been leaking goals for fun.
@@kamaaladiin I don't know if it'll be all bad for tuchel in Munich but it doesn't seem like a good fit on paper.
Hahahahaha You have not idea of football or Bayern đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł. Gab k ones nothing about football neither.
Nagelsmann did very bad at Bayern so far, the first season was mediocre for Bayern and this season he had problems everywhere in the team, he had a good run in UCL but we were playing really bad the second half. And that's the same thing that happened the last season, great first half and poor second half. It was the same this year,.great first half, specially at the end in December, and very poor second Half, except for the games against PSG, the players don't want him neither.
So kid you better go to school or something, this sport is not for u
Gab does journalism and Stevi is d ol granpađđđđfun combo
You call that Journalism hahahahaha. Gab is mad like a cheated woman, very unprofessional đđ. I guess he is Nagelsmann agent đđ
@@KaiserM3 How is Gab or Nagelsmann unprofessional ?? A club like Bayern has no decency of calling their manager to tell them in person? Imagine you heard that you are no longer in job from some media dude. It's matter of respect. Bayern a giant club has very unprofessional way of handling situation. There is no way you can blame Nagelsmann for this.
@@KaiserM3 my point was Gab has sources to obtain inside info but Stevi's info comes from his brain and tongue. No clue wat is d reality in club or plyrs camp or supporters mindsets đđ
They're both fucking idiots. Gab just uses more sophisticated words to say the same stupid things
I've noticed over time that nearly every exchange you see between Stevie & Gab devolves into this. Gab is at his most arrogant and condescending when arguing with Stevie - there seems to be a genuine dislike between them that isn't part of the show's usual banter. I think Gab just thinks Stevie is a dumb jock and Stevie has no respect for Gab's opinion since he was never a player.
I have to agree to Gab here I think!!!! Stevie - not every single clubs owners speak - look at PL club Tottenham for example, the owners are non-existent and this is a ridiculous comment coz the Spurs fans have been complaining (similar to what Conte said, for 20 years now) that the owners donât have an opinion.
Bayern owners have an opinion 4 days back and just 4-days later they make a complete U-turn? Thatâs irresponsible and poor decision makingâŠ.
Dude thinks it's still the same like when he was playing lol
Why is Stevie so invested in defending Bayernâs backstabbing??
How do you know it was backstabbing? There are many reports of leaks done by naggs gf and he was advised before that this relationship won't benefit him cuz she is a reporter
Backstabbing đ okay..
Back stabbing what are you talking abotu lol?its the worst season in ten years??? We didnt win ANYTHING last season except the league. Bayern this season was the wrost autum master in league HISTORY...do you realize what that means? This season the Bundesliga is the WEAKEST its ever been and we just lost place 1 to dortmund!? How is that doing well because were still in all competitions?
He's not. He's just saying that it's not unusual for a club to hire a manager, sign him to a multi-year deal, sour on him, become interested in another big name manager, continue to support they're current manager to the press, then fire that current manager in order to sign the other big name manager before another team does. This happens all the time in all sports.
@@whywouldyoucare howâs it going with Tuchel mate? Julian wasnât the problem
Why does Gab always look like he doesnât want to be there? đ
đ I swear
Because he's arrogant AF. I know people that did a show with him and they told me he's thinks he's the smartest guy in the room. I do like him though. Good journalist. I am with Stevie in this case though.
Gab loves to think he's smarter than everyone else.
His face expressions are annoying AF
I donât like Stevie but gab has always been rude towards him I donât like that like be nice bro
Thought Chelsea mistreated Tuchel with his sacking. Bayern just took it to a whole other level.
Gab is on point here. Speaking nothing but facts!
Gab is so condescending
@Shorts Ball that doesnât explain why heâs condescending and rude. We are watching for entertainment - not for Gab to stroke himself to oblivion
How did stevie land this job with such low reasoning ability.
With his NAME.
Gab is saying the truth! Iâve been saying the same thing.
This is personal!
Even if they wanted to get Tuchel immediately, they could have signed him up immediately, but to start at the end of the season, which is just two months away!
I believe the reason why they didnât do this was because this would give Naglemsan the chance to win a treble which he still had a very very good chance of winning. And if he won a treble it would make it even more awkward firing him.
Couldn't be more true than this!
I use Stevie to explain my Scottish family and what it is like at dinner.
Steve some time behave non professional way. I know he is a old guy, but need to control himself.
Stevie will argue with his shadow
This level of outrage is certainly not warranted given the job Nagelsmann's done. Completely overhyped manager who let get knocked out by Villarreal.
I remember when Niko Kovac got knocked out by Liverpool, he was crucified by the media but Nagelsmann gets a pass because he's supposed to be this coaching genius, and he's anything but.
âGive him timeâ they saidđ
So glad heâs gone, heâs a clown
Gab and Juls, Sid and Stewart are the only pundits on ESPN FC with brains
Sid Lowe
@@loawealt6961 yes and also Stewart Robson
Nedum
Gab with the best analysis!
đ€Łđ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł one more fanboy đđđđ
Graham Potter is on a five year contract.
Seriously Brazzo and Kahn are not the dumbest people in football...
as Chelsea fan I sadly agree fully with youđąđą
All hail Gab . Spot on again . Everyone should listen to what Gab says at all times . Heâs always right
Stevie point does not make sense and is old school with old views of doing things! We need young generation who will fight against injustice acts not Stevie!
The bar is set high for Tuchel...Gab is talking rubbish. This same guy that said Graham Potter should be given time at Chelsea đą. Please get off the plane Gab.
Tuchel is UNPROVEN in league play. PSG doesn't count. Its a joke league. The man has not won a league with a major club ever. He is a cup specialist good for short term success only.
With that logic pep is a cup failure n Klopp is just one time miracle
Stevie always talk rubbish
Sick of Gab and his pro-Nagelsman ways! Get 'em Stevie!
This sacking will remain a mystery
Would love to hear Oliver khan on this
Steve nichol should get some manners
I dont think people understand the level of stardards held a bayern munich... sure theyre in quarter finals, sure theyre unbeated in ucl. Yet they are #2 in the league, and under 60 points. To bayern, thats dangerous, either you can convincingly win the bundesliga and contend for ucl or its not the job for you. I understand them, just insanely high standards which is why they are who they are.
So tell me what happens when bayern lose in the CL and bundesliga this year? Fire tuchel? đ it's just a dumb move man.
They wonât ⊠not against all those jokers
They replaced lewa with choupo mouting
@@superstar_h_gamer5211 Choupo-Moting was already in the club, the replacement to Lewa was Mane. Not a particularly good signing by Brazzo, unlucky with his injury and Nagelsmann wasn't overly interested in getting the best out of him anyway (another reason why they were frustrated with Nagelsmann as the head coach).
This a terrible managerial change. TT has been sacked 3 times because of fallouts with the front office. He won't last more than 2 seasons, as usual.
Terrible is for Chelsea
Well, that's not unusual for Bayern managers, this is a club who is not unfamiliar with scandals and drama. Bayern would be OK with him getting sacked after two years if that period include at least 1 UCL title.
Marcotti with another W
I'm looking for the episode when Steve tried pronouncing the buyern munich sporting director's name. This made my night I laughed until midnight đđđ .thats the greatest episode of espn fc .
I have to agree with Stevie on most points here and Gab on a few but Stevie is mostly right. The Gab guy seems to really like Julian Nagelsmann for Bayern but has doubts for Tuchel yet still praises Tuchel and claims to be a huge fan. Gab just seems to want his cake and eat it too.
Nah gab is right, the reasons for why they said they sacked nagelsmann were nonsense. There is something not being said here.
@@pendu.papaperez You mean everything that everyone else already alleged? As Stevie kept reiterating to Gab Directors and VPs will come out all the time and say they back the manager however that's just a PR stunt. Stevie also said they're are obviously problems inside the club between both parties so they can decide on his future. We won't get the full story but as Stevie kept saying it's quite common in football as it happens all the time. Nagelsmann will get a job soon and everyone will continue living their lives.
Heâs a Bayern hater and JN fan boy
Heâs a Bayern hater and JN fan boy
Gab is right. The firing was stupid and they should explain. They didn't explain.
There's a nice room waiting for Stevie in Florida, they say those retirement homes are very comfortable.
When is old Steve going to retire the old man doesnât even know what his talking about
He knows way before than other guy and you and actually played the game and was a serial winner he is right.
Gab is a Nagelsmann fanboy, and a Bayern hater
So am i
@@nancyramos6872 Didnât ask + SYM
Why gab is always angry , serious , dull in this show, while in his own show gab and jules ,he is excited smiling euphoric , is it just me who thinks that? He is getting paid right in this show too
Wouldnât you be angry,serious, and dull, if you had to work with Stevie and Craig?
@@hond4h34d đ lol, but seriously he looks like he doesn't get paid enough here
What I can't stand is when he's constantly doing eye rolls at someone else's point of view
Why is Stevie so mad here đđđ
Trust me they can have Tuchel đ
Gab is so right if you don't think he's gonna be the next thing since sliced bread then why such a long contract (also they've not done terrible even after losing their talisman)
Things can of course change in 1+ year. Before they signed him and had him working for the club he was hailed as tactical genius and the biggest coaching talent in Germany. For Brazzo and Kahn it was the perfect signing to signal the arrival of the new leadership at the club.
Turn the clock 1 year forward and Bayern has finished a pretty poor season (by their standards) and got knocked out of UCL by Villarreal. Players and the leadership was already viewing Nagelsmann in a different light, and his margin of error before a possible sacking was slashed considerably.
Fast forward 9 months and they sack him. Why? The team is scrapping through (again by their standards) in the league and the UCL. Brazzo's big signings on high wages are being benched (Mane and Cancelo), some of their biggest wage-players are benched (Sane & Gnabry) and the old guard is either benched or are open hostile towards Nagelsmann (MĂŒller & Neuer), and skateboarding manager Nagelsmann is dating a tabloid reporter (as the clubs is struggling with media leaks) and making everything about himself in media and press conferences.
There probably wasn't 1 clear thing behind the sacking, but the build-up of frustration against a manager not suited to the Bayern model and Kahn and Brazzo owning up to the fact they got it wrong then and try to get it right now with Tuchel (with the aded benefit that they know believe the remaining of the season can be safely guided to multiple titles).
This is the club who had no problem sacking Ancelotti a couple of months into his second season (after having won the title in his first season) when the team's perrformance was judged as lackluster, they of course went on and won the league that year as well...
Kay looking STUNNING as ever đ!
Shaka laughing is me
Stevie pissed đ
I like when Stevie gets angry đđĄ
The whole firing is comical đ
I just canât wait till all this blows up
In Bayerns face lol Khan has been the worst addition to the Bayern Board in recent memory
Genghis Khan?!
No idea what these two are arguing about but its pretty clear that Bayern made a huge mistake sacking Nagelsman and appointing Tuchel....
gab is right there should be something between management and coach nobody knows about it
Stevie.....for god sake please retire......
Obviously something happened behind the scenes and the guy got fired. Itâs like any other job. He pissed off the people who are capable of firing him and so he got the sack
Yeah Iâm not feeling Gab here at all. Heâs just rude today. He clearly woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning.
We all possibly agree No one saw this coming and does not make 100% sense of this sacking specifically almost close the end of the season, almost on the top of league and could be one of the Favorites to Win Champions LeagueâŠ.. something fishy and we may not even know the main reason behind his sackingâŠ.đ€·đ»ââïž
STOP BEING EMOTIONAL STEVIE .
Steve come on man... You think they didn't have meetings before with him?? Ofc they knew him but they simply wanted him BUT maybe along the way they didn't feel like he was the one BUT they clearly wanted Naigelsman as their head coach!
As I much I like Stevie he's incapable of putting up a logical argument, his emotions take over and you can see his face getting redder and redder when he gets into a heated debate.
Is like saying why would you marry her if you didnât like her lol at some point he liked her and loved her thatâs why he married her and now things changed!
possible the issue with their winnings in bundesliga. I think they want to win every competition same with Hansi Flick did last 2020.
Gab being incredibly disrespectful to Tuchel here and also silly in what heâs saying about Nagelsmann, they dropped a ten point league they had in January in the Bundesliga which theyâve won ten times in a row
Moles giving tactics to Journalists - disrespect of Sane not showing up on time and Nagelsmann just 'laughing' it away - the Manuel Neuer story - Cancelo benching - no improvement of Gravenberch & Tel....
And they dropped ten points....I mean what should the Management do? Just "pray" that everything works out? No. Bayern with this team should be 12 Points ahead in the Bundesliga.
I used to think they were the same person...
Very heated debate đź
Lol Stevie come on
Hey televised itđ
Nicol gotta go, we need more quality on this show
Steve Nicole once said Tuchel not good manager
Gab is absolutely right Thomas Tuchel would never take the Spurs or Madrid job before Bayern, Kahn and Salihamizic threw Nagelsmann under the bus.
Two people shouting at each other with a delay.
Can't these guys not talking over each others? We can't hear anything
TT is a world-class manager. The day he left Chelsea, it was as close to when Jose left
These 2 guys always argue xD
Why did they sack him? Kahn & Salihamidzic already told in the press conference:
Bayern was leading with 10 points until the world cup.
This year they did not find continuety, there were ups and downs. 5 wins 5 losses
Now instead 10 points in front theyÂŽre 1 point behind Dortmund.
Also Nagelsmann lacks maturity when it comes to answering questions at press conference, and worse he oversteps his responsibility and several times annoyed management.
Also not using Cancelo regularly was a concern.
Still, I think Nagelsmann can grow and bring some success to Tottenham! HeÂŽs only 35 also!
gab and steve just like to disagree its fun to watch :))
Gabbyvshould have said Klopp is gonna take up the Real Madrid job and watch Stevie face turn red even if he statement is not true. Lol
5:16 ok so one player, kimmich, said a nice thing about nagelsmann. what about basically EVERYONE ELSE on the team? it's pretty well documented that the other bayern players had some issue or 'no comment' on nagelsmann. why is this guy choosing to ignore that?
Something happened behind the scenes that we may or may never find out later. Thatâs the only explanation that makes sense. You cannot beat PSG (one of the favourites) convincingly like he did and get sacked a few days later. Bundesliga is a piece of cake no matter how close it looks right now.
As a Bayern fan, this is fucking chaos
"Well actually " Smfh Gab gets a rise out of either correcting or disagreeing with someone. He makes my skin crawl
I disliked him from the start
Gab is a clown đ€Ą
Is he lying or what? That's more important than how you feel about him. đ
Gab makes a lot of sense honestly
Steve, be respuctful to Gab.. He is making a point.. You don't need to get personal and use words such as "nonsense" the way you did.. and it's not the first time.. Gab on the other hand is extremely professional for not retaliating.
Dont fight guys.. đ
Oh yeah Gab, sure, they "liked" him so much that they just torpedoed him.
So.. heâs 1 point below Dortmund and he got sacked?
Pep is 5 points below Arsenal, even after purchasing one of the best strikers in world football.
We should sack Pep?
Klopp? Ancelotti?
I get your point. But he blew a 10 point lead and young players are not developing and teams are exploiting their weaknesses even in Bundesliga. The board lost the trust in him. But it is still very harsh I have to say.
@@sptc7616 blew a lead he which he got them there. Bayern didnât start the league with an additional 10 point or he didnât inherit a team who was already 10 points ahead
@@Footie4ever doesn't matter if he got them the lead if he can't protect it. I personally think he should have stayed.
whoâs the yenta doing on the panel?
Lol
for some reason Stevie believes all his angles are always right...đ€ narcissistic
Sorry but Stevie sounds like he knows more than Gab. Let that think in
Meanwhile Gab is out here spewing factđ
1:55 why isn't this plausible? nagelsmann was not favorable in the team as a whole. tuchel might get poached by other teams or he might get offers that will push bayern to compete. If you know who you want and want to lock them in, you give them an all or nothing offer on the spot. how is that implausible?
it's clear that stevie knows more of the actual politics than what the results are reflecting. regardless if this a good or bad decision for bayern, it's real and undeniably present. for some reason gab refuses to understand how politics play a part and throws a fit because of it
Gab wanting more to the story to create headline. Gab doesnât watch German football to see how poor Bayern have been. The club see the chance to win a treble and a manger who has been outclassed in the league. The leverkusen Bayern were out played for 90% of the game. This can go badly for the club but atleast they saw bad results reacted.
Steve grumpy đđđđđđđ
Gab doesnât know how this works
Nagelsmann was about to ruin Mané's career playing him out of position.
I'm happy he's fired.
Gab keeps hating Bayern!
Bayern should've hired will still
Who won the argument? Gab sounded pretty convincing.
Espn has turned to sky sports
Facts versus emotions. Although I think Gab can be more subtle getting his points across, he comes across as conceited.
Gab is talking BS. It's almost as if he is in love with Nagelsmann
Gab is right. If Tuchel can't at least win the Bundesliga those 2 K and S should lose their jobs.
Stevie is right, Gab is just blowing hot air. đ
Stevie your wrong it's ok now do like your buddy and do a whole 360 and turn it around. Why are you so hard headed and don't listen to facts