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Komentáře • 117

  • @RedSunFX
    @RedSunFX Před 6 lety +201

    The ending is so perfect.
    So this must be equal to one.
    And we are done.

  • @patrickpire5227
    @patrickpire5227 Před 4 lety +40

    Easy when it is so well explained. And it reveals how pure math can be.

  • @swarnimpandey413
    @swarnimpandey413 Před 7 lety +72

    I am currently watching this from the older playlist of calculus....he has finally bought a new pen...

  • @sophieandreae4834
    @sophieandreae4834 Před 4 lety +29

    Wow that ending left me feeling very good inside, a happy ending you could say!

  • @joeydifranco0422
    @joeydifranco0422 Před 6 lety +15

    Love the abrupt ending. Gottem.

  • @applejacks268
    @applejacks268 Před 2 lety +3

    That ending is perfect. Talk about going full circle

  • @forklift1712
    @forklift1712 Před 4 lety +5

    Much better than the one in 2008. My only suggestion would be to deal with the absolute values on the front end by proving that
    lim(x -> 0-)(sin x)/x = lim(x -> 0+)(sin x)/x
    by noting that f(x)=sin x and g(x)=x are odd functions.

  • @HH-mm1ts
    @HH-mm1ts Před 4 lety +1

    Awesome video!! Thanks!

  • @gokharol
    @gokharol Před 6 lety +1

    Beautiful! Bravo :)

  • @TheCodingKent
    @TheCodingKent Před 6 lety

    Thank you very much..

  • @tmmyvrctt11
    @tmmyvrctt11 Před 6 lety +1

    Pretty simple and good

  • @feelingzhakkaas
    @feelingzhakkaas Před 2 lety +1

    Absolutely wonderful

  • @johnwight6041
    @johnwight6041 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Wow this is beautiful. I love math!

  • @Mathieew
    @Mathieew Před 6 lety +7

    Great lesson! My professor actually requires us to be able to prove that also the cosine function approaches 1 as theta approaches 0, with the definition of limits. Nevertheless, I liked this lesson more than what we've been doing in university. It often feels like lecturers are quite hard to follow in their reasoning. This made it all a tad less complicated!

    • @jimmyb998
      @jimmyb998 Před 5 lety +8

      That's trivial: the cosine function is continuous at 0. Therefore, by definition, lim theta -> 0 cos theta = cos 0 = 1.

  • @khetamessi7304
    @khetamessi7304 Před 6 lety

    Thanks so muchhhh❤

  • @Kittles1992
    @Kittles1992 Před 7 lety

    please update your playlist

  • @tomduke558
    @tomduke558 Před rokem +1

    came across this in Hugh Neil's Calculus book, and i see the author forget to take the last step of taking the reciprocals and inversing the direction of inequality operators... been pondering how to do it otherwise... and the end is the application of sandwich principle

  • @orangeinfotainment620
    @orangeinfotainment620 Před 5 měsíci

    Thank you sm!

  • @omomair2601
    @omomair2601 Před 3 lety

    THANK YOUUUUUUUU

  • @jsgames6843
    @jsgames6843 Před 3 lety

    Thanks

  • @ahmetyenicay6649
    @ahmetyenicay6649 Před 7 lety +4

    math is amazing thank you

  • @user-de7mi9su9w
    @user-de7mi9su9w Před 6 lety

    Ok😊

  • @ohthatpaul
    @ohthatpaul Před 2 lety

    That is a beautiful mathematical truth: as x (in radians) approaches zero, sine x is smaller than but becomes indistinguishable from x. At even at a value as large as 1*10^-5, x and sin x are indistinguishable on my 10-digit calculator. As x gets still smaller and still closer to zero, sin x gets even closer to x. Therefore, the limit of sin x / x^0.5 is x^0.5. (My calculus textbook problem 2.5-supp #25, p166, Howard Anton, Calculus: A New Horizon 6th Ed., incorrectly states on pA73 the answer to problem 2.5-supp #25, what is the limit of sin x / x^0.5 as x approaches zero from the right, is zero, but that's not true, as this proof demonstrates, the limit is not zero but the square root of x.

  • @ptrexy
    @ptrexy Před 3 lety

    Can we prove that the are of the circular sector is bigger than the area of the salmon triangle?

  • @krisztian76
    @krisztian76 Před 6 lety +4

    Why to bother with absolute values? If it's true in the 1st quarter, it's enough. The forth quarter is just the mirror image.

    • @basdflasdf8829
      @basdflasdf8829 Před 6 lety +4

      We're looking for what it is "at" zero. and zero is inbetween the two quadrants.

    • @jimmyb998
      @jimmyb998 Před 5 lety +5

      If you only consider the 1st quarter, you'd only prove what the lim theta ->0 + (i.e. as theta approaches 0 FROM THE RIGHT) is. However, theta may also approach 0 FROM THE left, which means it'd be in the IVth quadrant. By using the absolute values, you can essentially prove that both limit approaching from the left and the limit approaching from the right are equal to 1. saves time :)

  • @hongsethya4932
    @hongsethya4932 Před 3 lety +1

    i don't get it

  • @abdialibabaali132
    @abdialibabaali132 Před 6 lety +2

    is sal doing a barack obama voice imitation at some points in the video

  • @atlast7035
    @atlast7035 Před 4 lety +2

    Neat proof, but your explanation of tan leaves something to be desired.

  • @IntensePeppers
    @IntensePeppers Před 5 lety +7

    Where did the right half of the pink triangle come from? The triangle that has sin theta as its left vertical leg. He just draws it out of nowhere 2:08

    • @nuklearboysymbiote
      @nuklearboysymbiote Před 5 lety

      he's just making a triangle with height sin(θ) and base 1

    • @AfsalPA
      @AfsalPA Před 4 lety +1

      That entire pink triangle is not right angle triangle ... So (1/2)BH is not applicable !!... Am I right?

    • @cruinneas5624
      @cruinneas5624 Před 3 lety

      @@AfsalPA 1/2(BH) works for all triangles

    • @shigababu8132
      @shigababu8132 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cruinneas5624 Nope. It works only for right triangles. Heron's formula works for all kinds.

    • @cruinneas5624
      @cruinneas5624 Před 3 lety +1

      @@shigababu8132 can you show me some evidence to why 1/2 x base x height won’t work for any triangle?

  • @jitendrasahay3847
    @jitendrasahay3847 Před 6 lety +3

    I am not sure how one can put the equility sign with the inequility while comparing the three areas. it's pretty much clear the area of circular arc is greater than (and not greater than equal to) area of smaller triangle and area of bigger triangle is greater than the area of circular arc. How in the world they could be equal for any value of theta unless you are directly assuming in the very start itself and once assume so you won't have any way to proceed further because whole geometry will collapse to the origin.
    Let me know your views.

    • @IsaacC
      @IsaacC Před 5 lety +11

      theta can be zero, in which case all would be equal

  • @bartlomiejodachowski
    @bartlomiejodachowski Před 3 lety +1

    And we are done...

  • @Scififan1234
    @Scififan1234 Před rokem

    Why is CZcams censoring the word function? Whenever Sal says function the audio cuts out? 8:22

  •  Před 7 měsíci

    In general, divisions are dangerous. Why you can divide by sin(θ) knowing that it can be zero?

  • @thanaa6401
    @thanaa6401 Před měsícem

    how am I supposed to do such reasoning in the exam

  • @glec5661
    @glec5661 Před rokem +1

    Why do we say that the areas are less than or equal to one another? Is is not obvious that the areas are larger than the other so it's more like "less than" not "less than or equal to"? Can someone help? Thanks!

    • @altan.neptonioluca
      @altan.neptonioluca Před 11 měsíci +1

      bcs when the theta aproaches zero, everything seems so small and almost equal. For example, let theta is 0.01 degree. Everything in rasio almost equal. Since cos almost 0 degree is almost 1, so sin theta/theta is almost 1 also. What you see is the theha ofc far bigger than 0 let's say 45 degree and it's not approaching zero

    • @alxkub
      @alxkub Před 7 měsíci

      Less then or equal to include the case of theta=0 at the moment when you define those areas. But you can exclude theta=0 right away and go with “less than”. The proof will work fine anyway.

  • @morjithmattapalli9531
    @morjithmattapalli9531 Před 4 lety +3

    I'm having a doubt at 3:22 how can you cancel the both pies where the one in the denominator is 360 degrees where the pie in numerator is a constant which equals to 3.14??Someone please clarify my doubt

    • @saajidchowdhury9125
      @saajidchowdhury9125 Před 4 lety +6

      Theta is measured in radians. 2pi radians = 360 degrees. pi radians = 180 degrees.
      Indeed, pi radians = 3.14 radians. 2pi radians = 6.28 radians.

    • @BlackedRawdotcom
      @BlackedRawdotcom Před 3 lety +2

      The area of a circle is given by the formula
      πr²
      π was used for the entire circle's area. So if you only want the area of a sector of the circle it is only a portion of the entire area of the circle.
      To find the ratio of the sector to the entire circle, divide the radian measure of the sector by 2π. That is Θ/2π. Then multiply that by the area of the circle (Θ/2π)πr² = (Θ/2)r².
      For example, if you only want a semicircle's area, a semicircle has a radian measure of π. That is π/2π = 1/2 of the entire circle. And that is 1/2 of the circle's area or (1/2)πr² = (π/2)r².

    • @stoppls1709
      @stoppls1709 Před rokem

      thanks dude!!

  • @ahmedtresh1426
    @ahmedtresh1426 Před 5 měsíci

    If anyone can explain why we put equal sign when it's obvious that the three areas aren't the same and every one much bigger than the other
    Another thing , can we prove that with any circle rather than unit circle?

    • @hareem4235
      @hareem4235 Před 4 měsíci

      because of sandwich or squeeze theorem.

  • @user-lz6ru5km5m
    @user-lz6ru5km5m Před 5 lety +1

    Is this true for theta is not between -pi/2 and pi/2?

    • @jimmyb998
      @jimmyb998 Před 5 lety +2

      That's irrelevant, since the question here concerns the limit as theta -> 0. Theta can only approach 0 from regions where -pi/2 < theta < pi/2.

  • @tanzetat3172
    @tanzetat3172 Před 2 lety

    why is absolute value used?

  • @raybin2086
    @raybin2086 Před 7 lety +5

    Why did signs flip when sin θ/θ was inversed?

    • @denizn.tastan6847
      @denizn.tastan6847 Před 7 lety +17

      When you take the reciprocals you have to invert the signs. Think of an inequality like 1>1/2 when you take the reciprocal and dont change the sign it becomes 1>2 which is obviously incorrect so you have to invert the sign making it 1

  • @tushroy81
    @tushroy81 Před 3 lety +1

    Please help me.
    I am confused. He just prove this only for 1st and 4th Quad... How to prove it for any Quad.
    Moreover to prove lim(sinx/x), we need to prove it through sine series which is dependent on Maclaurin Series which is dependent on derivative of sin x which is dependent on lim(sinx/x). Then it's a cyclic way. Which is the fundamental theorem and how to prove it without depending on daughter theorems.

    • @filipeguilherme3094
      @filipeguilherme3094 Před 3 lety +5

      I think you just need to prove it in the 1st an 4th because it's lim-0, which means that you want to know how much is sen(0)/0, and sen(0) just appears in the 1st and 4th quad. Sorry for my English I hope that I helped you

  • @bawiagoogle1413
    @bawiagoogle1413 Před 4 lety +2

    I dont understand one thing.
    The area of the triangle can be less than the area of radian but when will the areas will be equal?
    Plz help.

  • @arekkrolak6320
    @arekkrolak6320 Před 6 lety +1

    actually at 5:25 you would have to proove that abs(sin/cos) = abs(sin)/abs(cos)

    • @RedSunFX
      @RedSunFX Před 6 lety +1

      Why would you need to prove that? In my opinion it's fairly obvious
      abs(sin(x)/cos(x)) will always be positive, no matter what the signs of sin(x) and cos(x) are. And in abs(sin(x))/abs(cos(x)) we divide two terms with a positive sign, so the result will also be positive.

    • @arekkrolak6320
      @arekkrolak6320 Před 6 lety

      well, you just made a proof :)

    • @maincharacter1405
      @maincharacter1405 Před 6 lety

      Intelligence is important, but nice abs are *importanter*

    • @maincharacter1405
      @maincharacter1405 Před 6 lety +1

      Absolute value properties clearly state |x/y|= |x|/|y|

    • @MrDenislynch
      @MrDenislynch Před 4 lety

      or you could just prove it for the first quadrant and call it a day

  • @wnJhntn
    @wnJhntn Před 23 dny

    Wow

  • @archit8169
    @archit8169 Před 7 měsíci

    I am confused by one thing ...why did we take equality when we were working with equations of areas we can clearly see that the areas are small ...how can they be equal in any case?

    • @marcelrogervillar4325
      @marcelrogervillar4325 Před 6 měsíci

      As theta approches zero the values of all three areas should approach to equality..

  • @tictac3711
    @tictac3711 Před 5 lety

    Why is 4:25 the area of the salmon triangle less than OR EQUAL to the area of the wedge? I don't get it how can they be equal can anyone explain?

    • @marcelrogervillar4325
      @marcelrogervillar4325 Před 6 měsíci

      As theta approaches 0 the value of all three areas should approach to equal value

  • @davidiswhat
    @davidiswhat Před 6 lety

    published this pretty recently. Anyways why do you need to change the signs upon using the recipricals

  • @user-yy3bc5be8y
    @user-yy3bc5be8y Před 5 lety

    I watched this video two years (older version). But after watched multiple times, I still wonder why these three areas are equal, from the graph the blue triangle area should be larger than the red triangle area. Can anyone explain to me?

    • @agastyawiraputra2208
      @agastyawiraputra2208 Před 5 lety +8

      It *is* equal only when the angle is close to zero. Seems counter-intuitive if you see it through the picture he had drawn. Imagine if you shrink θ to almost nothing, you will see how they have similar areas. If you still think that there might be discrepancies in terms of areas, well, hence the name 'limit'.

    • @user-yy3bc5be8y
      @user-yy3bc5be8y Před 5 lety

      @@agastyawiraputra2208 Thank You!

    • @alkalinewaterman1172
      @alkalinewaterman1172 Před 2 lety

      @@agastyawiraputra2208 Can you explain me why has he chosen the interval as -π/2

    • @alimaisamamiri2530
      @alimaisamamiri2530 Před rokem

      I also came across this question

    • @Jacksonrox13
      @Jacksonrox13 Před rokem +2

      @@alkalinewaterman1172 Cause if you go higher than π/r or lower than -π/r, the triangle ceases to be a right-angle triangle, thus screwing up the formulas.

  • @welovfree
    @welovfree Před 7 lety +1

    You can use the definition of derivative of sin(x) at point 0

    • @user-xs9oo9gc7u
      @user-xs9oo9gc7u Před 6 lety +5

      No. You need lim(x->0)sinx/x to find the derivative of sine. Try to compute derivative of sine by definition.

  • @jordanr8745
    @jordanr8745 Před 3 lety

    guys, why in the inequality sign he puts less or equal than instead of less than? min 4:24

  • @TheFarmanimalfriend
    @TheFarmanimalfriend Před 5 lety

    According to your logic, sin theta/2 = tan theta/2 (area of a triangle). I have a problem believing that.

    • @angrycat2789
      @angrycat2789 Před 5 lety +1

      TheFarmanimalfriend consider the limit as theta approaches zero for both sin theta and tan theta. You’ll see that both approach zero. Graph them or use a graphic calculator, is easy to see. For very small theta the “equality part” in the inequality holds

    • @jimmyb998
      @jimmyb998 Před 5 lety +1

      wrong. according to the logic the LIMITS as theta ->0 of sin theta / 2 = LIMIT as theta ->0 of tan theta /2. And that IS true.

  • @sohayelahmed7800
    @sohayelahmed7800 Před 2 lety

    At 4:20 how can 3 areas be equal? Clearly second one is bigger than the first and third one is bigger than the second.

    • @beegdigit9811
      @beegdigit9811 Před 2 lety

      Notice when theta = 0, all three areas are 0, so 0

  • @davidiswhat
    @davidiswhat Před 6 lety

    Also I dont see why the pink triangle could be equal to the orange slice of the circle.

    • @Atilla_the_Fun
      @Atilla_the_Fun Před 6 lety +1

      They are equal if theta = 0.
      The triangle will have an area of 0, and the circle slice will also have an area of 0
      0=0

    • @zNeoDev
      @zNeoDev Před 6 lety

      Me too , I can't get this step at all
      It's doesn't make any sense

    • @Atilla_the_Fun
      @Atilla_the_Fun Před 6 lety

      Ahmed Azmy
      I literally just explained it in the comment above...

    • @zNeoDev
      @zNeoDev Před 6 lety

      oh !! thanks ♥ @attila th fun

  • @99bits46
    @99bits46 Před 3 lety

    we are done lmao

  • @nicholasalkhawli6057
    @nicholasalkhawli6057 Před 4 lety

    How can the area be less or equal

  • @datoubi
    @datoubi Před 4 lety

    why is it less or equal to and not just less than? I cant see how the red triangle could ever be equal to the orange triangle

    • @braianpita6385
      @braianpita6385 Před 4 lety

      datoubi I suppose it has to do with theta approaching smaller angles the difference in area between the triangles becomes smaller and smaller approaching the same area when theta is 0, but that’s just guessing an explanation

    • @datoubi
      @datoubi Před 4 lety +1

      @@braianpita6385 what are the odds of this happening. I was watching this video again right as you responded to my comment :D I think it's really just the limit now as to why it's less or equal to

    • @braianpita6385
      @braianpita6385 Před 4 lety

      @@datoubi glad I could help :)

  • @gavinf.9778
    @gavinf.9778 Před 3 lety

    epic

  • @choibruce6417
    @choibruce6417 Před 4 lety

    the value of sinx approaches the value of x as sinx approaches zero. This means the limit of sinx/x as it approaches 0 will basically be x/x, equalling 1. Sinx approaches x because when sinx approaches 0, x also approaches 0, meaning they become closer and closer to eachothers' values.

  • @domingo2977
    @domingo2977 Před 7 lety

    Why take the reciprocal?

    • @denizn.tastan6847
      @denizn.tastan6847 Před 7 lety +2

      DeRon Burton To get rid of 1/cosθ and make it easier to calculate

    • @jimmyb998
      @jimmyb998 Před 5 lety +2

      because the question was "what's the limit of sin x / x", not "what's the limit of x / sin x".

  • @finmat95
    @finmat95 Před 4 lety

    UAO

  • @LodrakFaust
    @LodrakFaust Před 7 lety

    some weird math about how 0/0 is 1 interesting.

  • @TheFarmanimalfriend
    @TheFarmanimalfriend Před 5 lety

    L'opital gives cos(x)/1 from sin(x)/x and that is equal to one. as x --> 0.

    • @jimmyb998
      @jimmyb998 Před 5 lety +1

      To use l'Hopital, you must calculate derivatives. And the proof that the deriviative of sine is cosine, requires this limit to be 1. You therefore must proove that separately, as done in this video.

  • @qualquan
    @qualquan Před rokem

    check out rootmath