Acceleration BATTLE 200 km/h | BMW 535i vs 535d | F10 | 306 vs 313 HP | Who will win?
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2020
- This battle is pretty impressive. BMW 535d in test is fitted with fresh set of Michelin Pilot Sport 4 which limited wheelspin from start, on the other hand 535 with it's N55B30 engine is just mighty monster. Result?!
Same part of autobahn.
#BMW #535i #535d #Acceleration #Autobahn - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I don't even care which is faster. Just listen to the sound of that petrol 🤩
I dont like sound R6 BMW. R5 Volvo, Alfa or VR5 VW sound mutch better.
@@DamianCedk That's you...
@@DamianCedk I have this car, sound is awesome!
V6 V6!!!
Exactly bro
535i is a very fast car ! 👍🏿
You don't really feel the speed but soon as you look at the speedo you realize that you could go in jail 😆
We now chipped the car, new video comming soon!
🤣😂😭
My stock 535i is a very fast car but has class and presence.
Not in Germany
@@W880I1000 Of course 😉
Hyper-cars aside, nothing compares to the sound of that N55 Straight 6 petrol engine.
except for s55. And b58. And s58.
Or the n54 platform😈😈
nice 👍 information dude
TQ... from Malaysia kuala lumpur Fan's 🇲🇾
Like this results because I am PETROL head 😂
Me too 🔥
Same
The difference is almost 0!!!!
Real petrolhead drive petrol. Not diesel
@@KIM-nc7ti Ofcourse my track car is petrol but when i drive daily 200km i like the diesel, more range and cheaper and amazing torque after chip. Amazing cruising car then
Hey MM automotive what do you love the most petrol or diesel in term of power factor.
Specially in bigger engine like 3500-5000cc engine.
Petrol
alo, on a diesel engine the mileage is 240 thousand against 70, what are you comparing? he was not served
@MM Automotive , there a couple of things to consider with this video
1. the 535i has the gearbox in D/S , and it is a newer car . 75.000 km vs 240.000 km like the 535d has.
2. the temperature where those things were conducted was not optimal , because you need under 15 degrees Celsiul for good accurate measurements for both cars.
3. both car are on Sport plus suspension , but not in sport gearbox
try change those things i mention and you will see there is a little difference from your video.
i am a diesel fan , and thus far i see that you didn't pay attention to this factors
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Great analysis, thank You
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@@jsp637 je bas
Don't forget the biggest factor/difference the 535d its a Bi-turbo engine... 🤪 I drive by my self a 535d xdrive and i'm really obsessed by petrol cars and i want so badly to try a 535i.
Both are really good engenering marvales :) Altho I would still stick with N57's insane Torque numbers :))
There is almost no difference in the speed, but the point is that 6 cylinder screaming petrol engine!!!🥰Who cares about the 10-20 km/h slower or faster, when you have such a symphony under the hood 🙌
it makes a big difference and second
@@ilqar887 Yes, a petrol is faster 🚀
Diesel has a best symphony i think
The petrol gear box is in DS but in diesel only D....is it different?
No, it's still same, when you press kickdown pedal
DS is faster at less 1 sec.
@@muldix actually sport is quicker
Why this car have that short 2nd Gear ratio ? it is therefore slower....
if there is a time table at the end would be perfect
The HANDBRAKE ON THE PETROLL
:-D no... Brake pads off
When you do a battle it would be fair to :
1. Same km ( one has 73k and one 240k )
2. Temperature ( the times will be different because of the temp. )
3. The road
4. Gearbox ( it is a different between drive and drive sport )
5. Weight ( Depends how much fluids the car has.. and the people inside .. )
The both cars are lovely.
Road is still the same.
Gearbox - yes, sorry, but at least both cars in sport.
I’m always alone in car.
Thank you so much, will improve it!
I think it's a very nice comparison. For a non-professional it's extremely difficult to control all parameters at once. And MM Automotive has kept the most obvious ones constant. It's good enough for me :)
People dont understand that hp per hp the petrol just has more rpm to deal with the power , the diesel goes out of the power band fast that is why when you own an diesel you should be smart and go for rolling races but for petrol choose races from a dig
Einer fährt in DS andere D ?
Zo'n geweldige auto gemaakt in mijn thuisland Duitsland ❤️🚙
@A B 😂😂😂
Gasoline in DS sport mode, diesel in D drive mode. The automatic transmission torque converter does not pull out the entire torque of the diesel engine.
lol youre wrong. It makes no diff on a TC trans.
the 535 d vas 240 k km but 535i only 73k it's not the same ;)
Holy cow🤦♂️ Whats your point?
@@jojajo2707 I believe he has a point: the Diesel still runs strong at high mileage. The petrol, doing much higher revs and higher temperatures, might degrade more.
the diesel only uses a 1k RPM powerband, while the gasoline uses twice that, so the diesel is wasting a lot more time inter-gear
It depends on the diesel not all of them are built with a tiny peak powerband
240k km 535d👍🏼👍🏼, most people here change their bmw at 100k km, because they don’t have any patience to maintain and change new parts for their bmw.
Maybe because bmw is actually shitty and people sell it knowing there’s better companies to get car from with higher reliability.
@@a.d4911 For example? Btw my 330d has 230k on the clock with only regular service and maintenance.
Manual or Auto?
@@andreacristoforetti2061 Auto
Here where i live 240k is just "driven in". 535 need an turbos replaced around that, but nothing stops it from reaching 500k.
My friend had E60 535d with 780 000 kilometers in in. He ran 440hp, absolutely no problems. Now he has M550d, with only 215k driven.
I have A6 3.0tdi 230km driven with no problems. For todays cars, they will go on 500k easily, if you just take care of them.
Who win??????????
Heheheheh very nice but have 1 problem why don't put gear in sport on 535d like on 535i 😂😂😂
Sorry for that! Mistake from hell
pETROL pOWER
240k in diesel vs 70k in petrol, nice one!
good point
The difference in performance is little, while the difference in consumption is a lot. The diesel you can drive fast everyday if you would drive the same with petrol you need to own a gas station. I like both cars, but for somebody who drives a lot I would take the diesel.
At some point i agree, but when diesel gets some engine repair work than all money you saved in buying diesel will be gone
@@tomels8 and you will never repair petrol engine,you probably end up spending more on that petrol engine than diesel.
Yes u kinda right .but diesel is diesel .not gonna give u enjoyment of the petrol and diesel is more problematic engine
@@ilqar887 yes it is more problematic because it has more things than the fuel one, but with a diesel you can reach 500k kilometers if you take care of ur car, even more.. fuck 2.2 cdi from mercedes reaches 1 million km with the same engine..
@@lorebringers petrol engine can't do it?
I have the 535i so I am happy with the results lol
:-)))) Congrats, great car
Try sport on 535d .... not comfort you will cry .... diesel is faster
@@TheRossa21 but it was on sport+
@@TheRossa21 nope the petrol engine will fuck diesel anyways
@@TheRossa21 yep I think below 140kmh 535d is faster than 535i because it has amazing torque.
N55
Neck and neck until 140kmh, then the 535i starts pulling away from the lazier revving diesel
Exactly opposite mate ;) diesel reaches top speed faster
@@arturf209 Bro u can see it on the video...🤦♂Ofc petrol is faster and better.
Wow
Usually, when I want to go fast in my 550d I use the S Drive...but okay
I doubt that you even have a 550 both cars are in s mode not s drive wtf are you even talking about
@@banneduser682 both are on sport+ but only the 535i haves the sport gearbox setting on and the diesel is just a normal gearbox setting
@@juusesaarinen8976 How can it be on normal gear box setting when iT says D sports are you feeling alright brother
@@banneduser682 it does not mean diesel sport if theres ds It means that the gearbox is on sport setting
Diesal M sports package my friend call it what you want to call it but the D is in Sports + correct I forgot but it's in normal driving mode well there is no normal
There is
sports+
sports
comfort
eco
If you want to compare two cars, keep the conditions equal, km difference difference in gear shifts very important details at high speeds
Both are automatics, so the car shift at the best possible rpm for engine type inside.
I know that because I drive one. And I tried few different engines in F10/F11
Diesel only revv till 5k whereas petrol upto 7k easy ! How will gear shifts be equal?
@@rahuldogra diesel engines have lower rpm vs petrol engines. Diesel engine have most of the torque between 1500rpm to 3500rpm while petrol engine have torque higher up the rev rage, 3000 to 6500rpm. Hope that makes sense. That's why the petrol shift at a higher rpm.
@@andreww913 yeah I know that! 😅 What I said was diesel don’t revv high cause diesel burns slowly and about 5k power is reduced exponentially ! So how will the 2 shift at the same rpm?
@@rahuldogra because both engines have different characteristics, they will never shift at the same rpm.
The N55 is better for a 1-series or 3-series, the mighty N57 diesel engine is made for big sedans.
Petrol, because revs and final drive
Hardly fair, the diesel has done three times the mileage of the petrol.
welcome to diesel engines :))
Yeah I heard that many diesels gain power even upto 300k
So its fair :D
is it a fair comparison? Just re-check the Rpm
wut
Diesel Transmission is on drive
Petrol transmission is on ds
And diesel has e times more KM in its clock
I am a Mercedes fan but the 535d is a diesel rocket
@NutriFIT nutritie si fitnes d is for transmission sport plus is for undercarriage ...
@@kipsow No, i have this car, flipping the transmission knob to the left doesn't do much if the car is in sport or sport+
The 535d gearbox was is normal driving ( D ) on the 535i was on sport driving ( DS ) than thats why is a bit of delay on 535d
Ye, and it makes all the difference in a close call like this. It doesn't feel that much different, but when you time it, you can see the results.
I don't think you seen the video properly either that or your blind both cars are in s mode it's just that the 535i is a bit faster cause more horse power but the D has the same amount of torque
I own BMW and I know what a huge difference is making the gearbox to be on sport mode.
@@banneduser682 very clever, you know with the "genius" guys you can't tell the truth as they always know better...🤯
@@banneduser682 The cars are in sport+ but the gearbox is in "D" on the 535d, while the gearbox is in "DS" on the 535i. 535d actually has slightly more power and keeping in optimal power band would be to shift at about 4800 rpm. With this 'box time in D and DS would need to be compared for best time. From my experience, DS is a bit more relentless and faster shifting.
ale porównanie. jedno auto skrzynia S a drugie zwykła D :D
No i zobacz ile najebane km ma diesel xd . Pewnie dlatego ze benzyna nie dojeżdża do takich przebiegów Haha
@@Gaara7809 bardziej ze się nie opłaca XD żeby wydać tyle samo na paliwo co wydał Diesel benzynie starczyło na tylko 70 tysiecy km
I like the deepness of the diesel. Sounds more masculine 🤣
Petrol🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Diesel👍
LPG 😂
Now how does the diesel has got more hp than the high revving petrol engine? Anyone got clue?
more torque
Well easy petrol no lag diesel small lag but with the extra hp on diesel they outmatched the petrol engine diesel 535 its faster much much faster
What an utterly dense question.
73000km vs 240000km :)
AND WHAT?IS HE LOSE HORSEPOWERS??😂😂😂
@@motolife8601 yes
@@fuad.niftaliyev HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS REALLY EXIST🤣
@@motolife8601believe me Zaur :)))
@@motolife8601 Engine loses HP because of wear(KM/AGE). You must be stupid if you think something else :)
Did someone noticed the 200k km difference :) Diesels are better quailty.
They also need maintaining but overall they are pretty good
Lek veche i turbobenzinite gi pravqt zdravi i s golqm resurs...
PETROL D sport diesel D
I own a 535d. Often tested with 535i,640d,335d. Faster than a 535i And a 640d. But slower than a 335d because of weight
I agree mate, I raced a rs4 b8 with my 535d from 50kph and both had same acceleration. Mine is tuned though :)
Did you even see the video bro? the 535d is NOT faster than a 535i
I expected what will be in comments section right after I finished watching - Diesel Lovers crying and screaming, bliss for my eyes! 🤣
535i mode ds
535d mode d
i thought the petrol would be so much faster in acceleration and top speed, but apparently the difference with a diesel is practically not that much
Yes, diesel has a lot more torque over the petrol engine
@@robbieshaft but still lose why?
@@ilqar887 it’s heavier and has less revs to use
@@ilqar887 at the end, with both cars running very sophisticated 8speed automatic transmissions, the torque is not really relevant for the outcome. The power is what counts, and here on paper they are both at around 310HP. However, the petrol is usually somewhat underrated on power. It‘s probably more horsepower than the diesel, if only little more. And the diesel is slightly heavier. On the other hand, if you like to drive lazy and not use the high revs, you feel quicker in the diesel which has the power at a lower engine speed. Also it’s less thirsty. But the sound is not as racey. Both engines are brilliant. For a purchasing decision, it is important to look at total running cost including taxes, insurance and fuel, as well as maintenance. Also, local politics can have an effect on market value which makes a 535d in Germany less expensive due to Diesel gate and fear of diesel ban in cities.
@@Gemini_0815 true but even torque didn't help diesel car in the beggining
I believed that 535d is a bit faster. You should do a rolling race from 50 km/h. But then again, the petrol engine is turbocharged, so the turbodiesel loses its upper hand.
Not necessary, on paper maybe yes but in real world it depends on how healthy is the entire engine with all his components. For example a loaded dpf will pull down engine performances.
both cars are fast and very similar. diesel engines efficiency has increased significantly. it's not old clatter with weak turbo from w 124, a6 c4, e34/e39 tds.
@@denisovanhybrid9610 I want to see it.
@@denisovanhybrid9610 Yes, I believe it.
I also noticed something: cars with turbocharged petrol engines, although with similar power with turbocharged diesel engines, are faster. However, if the petrol engine is n/a and has similar power with turbodiesel one, the turbodiesel wins.
struś pędzisraczka you cannot compare to anything the straight6 diesel MO606 on the W124 lol what u know about w124
At least try and make it equal, the petrol is on DS and the diesel is in D, definitely makes a difference!
Either way, even if the diesel was slower, the diesel is on 240k km, I don’t think the petrol will be getting that far...
N55 engine is durable as fuck. It will easily reach 300k without any rebuild.
535i is on sport mode and 535d is on D
makes no difference with a TC trans.
petrol went ahead from 150 km/h bcs diesel went close to redline where it cuts power still the petrol one has like 200 nm less and that is quite some power advantage for the diesel but the diesel it’s more laggy. if the petrol had like 600 nm as the diesel would produce more than 500 hp. if the diesel would have 400 nm as the petrol would produce 100 hp less that’d be like 200 hp aprox.
Diesel would win on xdrive bcs xdrive makes full advantage of the extra torque.
Power is all about torque + speed (revs). Diesel cars achieved max torque at about 2500-3000 rpm and alowly begin to decline... While petrol car have less, but more constantly torque till end. Its just physics. When you reving high, horse power and total rpm (revs) is most important. Sometimes some diesel cars have a bad torque curve at top high revs, while other cars can have the same torque at 3000 rpm, but lower at 4500 and etc...
@@AP77432 yes,my 530d st1 300ps ,4500rpm feel slowly than 3000rpm
The importance of REV is shown in this video
Even with higher hp and torque, diesel loses
i think the only thing it showed right now is that one was driven in Sport gearbox and the other one was left in Drive only .
@@vladtudor4447 So, do you think that setting the gearbox in sport mode makes the engine to rev more than 5000 rpm????
Do you think so?
@@ravenheart369 well it makes it change at 5000 rpm and not 4500 for instance, and it also is a bit quicker and more brutal
@@vladtudor4447 There are tons of videos in YT shows that even in sports mode it changes at 4500 rpm
Even changing in 5000 rpm doesn't make any difference since the nature of diesel engine is low rev
@@ravenheart369 had 530d f10 , now a g30 540d ,and videos on youtube are very debatable .
they are not measured by exact gps. and the battles have some delays in between them , i doubt they are measured in miliseconds , because the difference you see in the video is max 0.6- 0.7 to 0-200 .
from my experience that si the exact difference driving in D makes compared to driving in sport gearbox
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Now compare 535i with an opel insignia 2.0 hahah
the d version is faster because its have more torque
535d has more nm, but from 190 to 260 the petrol engine is better
From 120~ the petrol takes advantage
but revs lower.
The diesel is driven in D not in S
so?
535i for the sound and smell
535d for acceleration
What? The 535d lost.
@@gw7624 no almost the same
@@enofier4883 No, it lost. Therefore '535d for acceleration' makes no sense. The 535i is the quicker car.
The torque is insane at the diesel, 630 nm
@@nosphy so what? Thats like saying the n55 revs insanely high, 7500 rpm!!!
Same performance one uses 6L one 30L😂
I have a 535d touring, it uses 9.3 l as average
@@nosphy hmm if you drive in comfort its possible to get the Diesel at 5-6l 100km with an average speed 100-120kmh
But you don't get that with a petrol car
If you try maybe you going 7-8l
@@manfeh2951 in comfort mode at long distances if you drive at speed limit you get 6.5l/100 km, but when you push it you get 8.5 or 8.2, in town 12l/100 km, an average of 9.1 is incredible for 313 hp
@@nosphy incredible good or Bad? 9.1 is much for a Diesel...
Okay the car got 1,7 tons hmm
In my opinion diesel is better because when you drive in the city and want to accelerate it happens easier because of the more torque and power in low rpms
Petrol
240k km vs 73k km haha
Millage says nothing...
I like the Diesel car because the petrol car will never reach 240 tsd Kilometer ...
Diesel Power my friend an me decided to do a test I have an Opel Astra j Sportstourer 2.0 210hp Diesel an he have an Opel Vectra 2.8l V6 211HP Petrol And then the high torque of my diesel, I left it off until 130km/h then it can slowly n
Diesel 240k km
Petrol 73k km
🤷🏻♂️
And whoat
Dude compares a car with 240k km on a wet road with a 73k km on a dry road.
Not much in it except diesel costs half as much to feed.
Yea but when diesel brakes its more expensive to fix engine wise
@@mrgamer22956 true facts. 👍🏻
Not that much difference to be honest
True!
This is fixed.. Put them on sport mode both.. This is lame atually
lmfao buddy turn it off
535d is the better car. petrol heads stuck in the past :) the noise of the petrol is better...is that it???instant torque diesel, any gear, any time and real world economy.no contest.
That 535d is probably one of the dullest cars I ever have driven. That being said, I have never driven a nice diesel. They all have this rubbery acceleration and sound horrible.
@@peterhammer4644 nobody said diesels were exciting :) but they are very very functional, a bow 535di powerful,very torquey and a fantastic real world option(most ordinary people can't afford to run a proper M model) does a 535d sound good?obviiosly not, but it moves very well, does a 535i sound good? better than diesel but its hardly a ferrari V12 :) Just listen to good music on bang and olufsen speakers while you eat up your journey :)
How can diesel be faster
Diesel uses less fuel
Thanks for this incredible scoop 🤣
Gotta love gasoline ❤️
Solids, liquids and gasses. Your fuel in your tank is liquid, comes out the pump as a liquid and if you poured it into a container it would also be a liquid. Definitely not gas or even a solid (unless you freeze it) 😂😂⛽
My bad excuse me for being like this 🤣
@@milkshakeflake yeah but it’s called gasoline buddy
Bmw 535i is more and more better than 535d
Diesel have more Fuel
535i in ds vs 535d in d...
doesn't matter at all when you kickdown anyways lol
@@zdx197 true if u kickdown its almost the same, but when u put in DS mode it changes the "mapping" and u can get almost 1sec less for 0-100km/h :) Then there wouldnt be this DS mode if u can just kick your pedal down lol.
but in this video there is a big difference in mileage of cars, 70k vs 240k, diesel will always win the torque battle and 0-100km/h after that, petrol engines just smudder diesels because if high rpms.. ;) if u livin in europe and wanna drag somebody and win the 0-100 battles, buy diesel.. :)
first of all there is no comparison to be made ... because one of the cars changes speed at 5000 RPM and the other changes at 7000 RPM ... it is a difference of 2000 RPM ... it is a difference too big to be able to measure speed and torque .... no heate..it's just my opinion
The diesel sounds horrible as most diesels do. Very dull cars to drive.
Remove restriction filters from the 535d and remap it and it will be faster than the 535i for a lot less money.
Yeah but it doesn't sound that good tho, both amazing engines tho
A diesel at 240+ km done and the patrol at 73 k yea nice ... I got same engine and is twice faster than that tired Diesel engine poorly maintained
The Thing That suprised me the Most:
Damn That Diesel Sounds horrible🤢🤢🤢
Wow