How To Install Crown Molding With Mitered Corners - Easy Install Tips!
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- čas přidán 28. 08. 2024
- Learn how to install crown molding with mitered corners in this video.
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Here's a link to another video we did with some more tips on how to install crown molding returns and bullnose coners: • Crown Molding Return a...
Trying to install crown molding with inside corners can be a difficult task if you don’t know what you are doing, but by watching and following these easy tips you can be sure to have the room turn out like a pro!
This is the best crown molding video using miter saw , no coping, with install guidelines! Saw video last night and fixed my bathroom crown in 10 minutes.
That’s awesome Chuck!
Appreciate the concise, straight forward video with no stupid babble. So thanks. From Whistler, B.C.
I was able to do my first crown molding job, due to your video. Thank you!!!!
Al Glaza Right on and congrats! Glad I could help! I’ve been slammed lately with work, but I’m doing one soon with my painter on how we finish the crown after install...
@@crownmoldinginstaller6624 with this method, do you put the molding upside down?
@@sabhanda1 hi, the back of the crown is always on the saw, it’s never upside down. So you cut one end of crown molding, then turn the crown around and change the miter to the opposite side 35.3 - then make the cut. That’s it!
Just did my daughter's home in Taiwan. Used a normal miter box and hand saw. When I built my house 40 years ago did same with gypsum/cardboard cornices and wood cornices also with miter box and hacksaw. Never had a problem, at the time no internet or CZcams.
I thought I was the only one who has a spring punch! Now there's two of us. I had mine 20 years.
Handy little tool for sure.
Whoa! I’ve had it for 5+ I didn’t know they’ve been around that long. Handy little tool for sure!
I’ve never installed crown molding, but after watching your video I don’t feel intimidated any more. Plain simple instructions and to the point! Very well done! And I feel I’m ready to tackle my project. Thank you!!
Thank you! Your instructions helped me complete my first crown molding job.
I love the molding, my wife loves the chaulk 😜🏴👍
Hey hey..thanks a lot... cutting this crowns on flat is a lot easier for me...
Excellent video
IMPORTANT: Almost every tract house built today has corners that are not true 90's and the rooms aren't square. Pre-cutting (as shown in this video) could lead to disaster. I've found it's best to measure and cut one piece at a time unless you're 100% positive the room is perfectly square.
It’s true almost every house has corners that are off, but if you cut a whole room and use the tester in the corner and then shims it’s fine. You don’t have to do one piece at a time.
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I’ve had corners so far off that shims won’t work. Recently I had one that was just shy of 107 degrees. I wish CZcams would allow pic in the comments. You’d find it most interesting.
@@ClagwellsGarage yes, I wish it would allow pics too! 107 degrees seems way off, it was a square room? I did two hallways, two bedrooms today all inside corners and each room took maybe 15 minutes. The other rooms had outside corners, so I do all the inside corners and then mark the outside corners, go back to the saw, then install those pieces. That’s all I do, trying to make the least amount of trips to the saw as possible.
Got it done thanks to this video
Right on!
Are those 90 degree inside corners? I always thought you had to cut them at 45 degrees, why are you cutting them at 35?
If you use a jig you cut them at 45. If you lay them flat on the saw it’s 35. I like laying them flat, you always get the same cut and no jig to set up.
@@crownmoldinginstaller6624 Wish I would’ve known this before I bought a jig! Great tip thank you.
@@crownmoldinginstaller6624 nice
Great, easy to follow video. Thanks.
Ty for doing this video man, it definitely was helpful.
Thats a money shot Thank you
Great instructions! Good job boys!!!
This video has been super helpful!!!
Thanks for posting up!
Cheers
Doc
Doc Dug right on! 👍🏻
Wish had lil more details on shims on video installation. But great work.
I do crown molding installation for living. We cope crown and cut compound cut at saw. If you can not do it you go and do something else for living.
There’s more than one way to do it. I’ll cope it if it’s butting into an existing crown piece, for example you have to build a mantel all the way to the ceiling with existing crown molding up. With mdf coping sucks on crown, why not miter it and glue it together? It comes out perfect every time.
Great video 👍. I have a project coming up. I will be using this and see how it turns out. Thank you very much for the very simple and concise instructions!
Great video and a new method for me for installing crown cutting it flat on the miter saw. I hate coping, especially with MDF molding. Whats the saw set up if your crown has a 52 degree spring angle? I am looking forward to seeing your other videos and see what other tips or tricks you have.
I think it’s the 31.62 on the miter and 33.9 bevel but I’d google a crown molding miter chart and check it to be sure first! It’s been awhile since I’ve used that setting..
Assuming 90 degree corner angle, a 52 degree spring angle means a 38 degree crown slope angle which yields Miter angle =38.2 and Bevel Tilt angle = 25.8. You can double check me by googling, but I am sure these number are correct (assuming a 90 degree corner). Those numbers will change a little if your corner angle is different that 90, let's say 91 degrees which is more realistic for most homes (miter 37.8, bevel 25.6). 92 degree corners are in my house. As the video shows, use shims and glue to compensate for small variances and you should have a good looking crown install.
Do you cut the trim piece upside down when placed on the saw?
Awesome video. Great teaching video. A big help on a remodeling had to do!!
No worries. Thanks for the info!!
I'm generally a cope guy but I'm not married to any method.( as some crown is actually uncopable) I'm a little more detailed if I'm mitering my corners though. I'll use an angle gauge to get the exact miter. I do use the shim method too. Good general tips for the beginner
What kind of nailer and nails do you use? Thanks for the helpful information, going to be doing this project.
I’m using the ryobi 18ga. With 1 3/4” brads. The ryobi works great with the bigger battery. I went through about 6 dewalts until I tried it.
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e you nailing into studs? it looks like your just nailing into the drywall.. if so is that enough holding power
Do you bevel because your laying the crown flat?
Thank you! 🤜🏾🤛🏻💯
Can you share the type of nail gun you used?
I used α ryobi HP 18 gauge nailer with the big battery. 1 3/4” nails. It’s pretty cheap as far as nail guns go and works great, I hardly ever have α nail I have to punch in.
Thank you... so simple
Tanks man 😊😊 Nais
Amazing worked
hi. great video. how about outside corners? can you show us how? thanks
Yeah, I’ll try to get that recorded on my next crown job. It’s pretty easy with the corner piece on bullnose corners. If it’s a 90 degree corner it’s the same angles as this video.
Yes muy bueno ....very smart!!!!
How to you install outside corners
How did you find your miter cut and bevel cut?
Thanks man
Do the cut angles change depending on the crown? If so, how to you know what angle to cut?
Yes, some crown sits different on the wall/ceiling. There’s guides online for figuring out the angles.. if you cut a small test piece, hold it up on the ceiling so the bottom and top backside is flat against the walls. If it’s sitting more down on the wall or more of the crown is on the ceiling than the wall it’s a different angle. These angles are for when the crown sits about even between the ceiling and wall.
@@crownmoldinginstaller6624 Thanks
Thanks for this, why do you measure the walls shy?
If the crown molding is pressing against the drywall (it’s too long) you can’t get the corners to line up. But if you go a little shy they line up great by themselves or with a little shim.
Hey there. Great video.! I just want to ask isn’t 5/8 shy a little too shot? For example my wall end to end is 100” so I have the cut the piece a little under 95 1/2”?
Mike T yes. I think I said shy was a 1/16 of an inch in the video... maybe not? So for 100” wall start with 99 15/16. Sorry for the confusion!
Crown Molding Installer Thank you very much for the reply.! That makes more sense.
10” or 12” blade on that miter saw?
I’m doing a similar project but space is 49”/49” will I be using similar cuts? I don’t have a miter saw, will a jig and hand saw work as well? Also, which style is that crown molding. Great job 👍🏼
rod diolula hi, if it’s a square room then the cuts are the same. I don’t know how you could get the cuts right without a miter saw though. The cuts have to be exact, if your off a couple degrees off on two pieces and they won’t line up correctly.
what you do when the corners are way off from 90 degrees ? Let say outside corners are 92 and inside corners 43 or 47?
The ships work for the inside corners when they are off and the caulking covers up any small gaps. Outside corners I cut to length just the regular 35 degrees and glue the corner together before I install it, so you’re not trying to line it up and nail it up on the ceiling. If it’s mdf it flexes a little bit and works. If it’s hardwood crown you can just adjust the bevel a little bit to get the corner tight
*shims
I'm wondering if you can help me out, I am using focal point 3 1/4 Hanover Crown molding, Can you please tell me what my angles should be? Thank you
Hi, I’m sorry without seeing the crown I don’t know. You’d have to measure the spring angle to figure it out
As the saying goes...crown is like a 2X4 piece of lumber. The actual dimensions of a 2x4 are 1.5 x 3.5. Similarly, even if it is called "38 degree" crown, it could, as in my case actually measure 35 degrees. To get best results you will need to measure the crown angle with a t-bevel gage or similar and then look up the miter and bevel tilt angles that correspond to that crown angle (easily found with google). So in summary, no one could answer your question unless the moulding was in their hands to measure it.
still unsure what the shim do, and if you leave them in or remove them. Are they necessary or does it depend on the straightness of the wall or ceiling?
It does depend on the walls and ceiling if you need them or not. But if there’s a gap in the crown it brings it together so the glue can now bond the two pieces together. Once you shim the crown, you break off the excess and hit it the rest up behind the crown with a chisel just a little bit. So it stays there forever and the caulking then hides the shim. Hope that helps!
Great video, you guys should do more. There’s not many you tubers who know how to really work with crown. Clearly your methods work good enough to make a living. Keep up the good work
What a nice job! Where do you buy the tool where you pushed in the nail? What is you opinion on the technique of 0 degree cut on one side of the inside corner?
It's a spring loaded nail set/punch. Not sure if that's the proper name, but I bought mine several years ago at a Sherwin Williams paint store - Amazon will work as well
How do you determine/measure the bevel angle ?
It depends on the crown, but most crown molding is just under 30 degrees for the bevel for the inside corners in this video. I just keep it set at that and just use the shims when needed to tighten up the corners.
0:39 Google says it is actually "35.3" degrees for miter and 30 degrees for bevel tilt, but who has a miter notch for 35.3? You are using shims to help close gaps since you are close enough. That and the caulking hides the small gaps too, lol.
Yeah, it is that but it’s such a slight difference 35 works fine and is easier for people to remember. I just go to the outer edge of the 35 mark on my saw. I used to have a saw with the 35.3 stops but it got stolen and I’ve never seen one since!
@@crownmoldinginstaller6624 And people looking at this video also have to realize that the angles for miter and bevel tilt change if your spring angle is 38 degrees on the crown. One commenter on this video said your method failed, but I am guessing that he had 38 degree spring angle and not 45 like yours. And no wall is 90 degrees which also changes your miter and tilt angles from the stock readings on the miter saw, depending on how picky about the gaps the installer is about doing the job.
i've always heard u had to cope the corners. i didn't know that at 35 degrees u could make it work.....
I like to miter the corners of the crown so I can glue them all together. Plus it’s quick. Just check the spring angle of the crown your using not all of them are 35 Miters, some are 31.62, etc.
Crown Molding Installer what’s the wedge actually doing? Is to close any gaps while the glue goes in? Do u find inward corners harder or outward corners when it comes to crown more difficult? When would u recommend coping? Thanks!
Sid Nguyen hey, yes the shims close the gaps so the glue bonds the pieces together. On outside corners here they are usually bullnose , so I make three piece corners and glue them together with the 2-p10 before I install them. They’re both pretty Easy once you’ve done them a few times. I cope most of my baseboards inside corners and occasionally I cope a crown if it’s easier.
Why find your bevel if your cutting at a miter angle of 35? Instead of angling your blade why not bring to 0 and turn to 35 without having to set a bevel?
With crown molding sitting flat on the saw you have to use the miter and the bevel to get the corners to line up.
@@crownmoldinginstaller6624 How did you find the miter degree and bevel angle in degrees? Did you use a particular angle finder?
@@peterbergeris6510 you can search for crown molding miter angle charts online and they do sell the angle finders that go with the charts as well. I learned just from working with a carpenter years ago on jobs so I don’t use them. After awhile you just know what cuts you need to make for different angles by looking at them. Two different settings on the miter saw make most cuts you need for all crown jobs.
@@crownmoldinginstaller6624 Thanks
Looks great .... hard to do
With the fully painted and caulked shot at the end, you think it still looks bad? Please explain what you mean so that I can learn more about installing this.
Set the miter to 35° and the bevel to 30° and guess what..... The inside corners weren't even close.
To anyone thinking of doing their cuts this way save yourself some time and money and don't make your cuts this way.
Smile SurferStyle sorry it didn’t work, not all crown works with these angles. it’s for crown at 45 degrees from the wall.. it could be 38 or 52, but 45 is the most common we use especially with mdf profiles.
He's correct - 35 & 30 is for crown with a 45° spring angle - most likely your crown was 38° spring angle, so you'd need to set the miter at 31.6° and bevel at 33.9° * as close as possible.
@@semperfi5857 ok then , I have to ask, what is it for a 52 degree spring?
Interesting why not cope the corners ? Every carpenter I know does.
I'm totally lost. What happened to 45 degree cuts (in all of the 20 other videos I've watched). Is 45 degrees ONLY for outside corners? You're using terminology that is totally Greek (to me, the novice). What the heck is "30 miters"? What does "96 and 5/8 shy" mean? 96 and 4/8? Please 'splain it to me. Thanks
Kenton Kirkpatrick hey! 45 degree cuts are if you have a crown jig on your saw, the miter and bevels are what you you use cutting it flat on the saw. Those angles are for 90 degree corners, inside or outside. For shy on the measurements I take a 1/16th off the measurement so the crown isn’t tight on the two walls. Hope that helps
Didn't know you could get your caulk out in middle of day and spread it around on CZcams.
Leave 10"??
What?
This does not work for stained molding.
I have done many installs with pre-finished, stain grade crown this way.
Or you could just cope the inside corners. :)
Yes you can if you like, but I get way less call backs gluing the corners together and it’s easier for me to make a cut.
Misleading, not all walls are perfect 90 degree.
That’s why we use the test piece to get it close and the shims to fix the 90 degrees being off. I would say hardly any walls are actually a perfect 90’degrees but this method fixes that.
You would never work for me. Mitered corners will leave a crack in the joint after a few months no matter what you do. If you cope your joints, you won't have to drive wedges behind your trim to make it fit. Try running three and four-stage crown molding that way. Most all compound miter saws have stops for cutting crown molding flat. Take pride in your work.
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