2024 Yamaha MT-09 and MT-09 SP | KNOX first look review

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  • 2024 Yamaha MT-09 and MT-09 SP | KNOX first look review
    One of the very best middleweight naked motorcycles available is back and hitting harder than ever, the Yamaha MT09 and MT09SP.
    With a market leading engine platform in the CP3 triple, the MT09 now looks to finish the puzzle with a revised and more aggresive riding position, better dash and in the SP version, some incredibly important updates in the braking system. With the option on the SP model now to remove the rear ABS, it seems that Yamaha may be well on the way to fixing their brake system gremlins which is about the only thing that stops them from taking the middleweight naked crown.
    We're super excited about riding this motorcycle in 2024! Please check here for the latest specification - www.yamaha-mot...
    Hope you enjoyed this short video. Be sure to give us a like, comment and subscribe.
    Thanks,
    KNOX
    www.planet-knox.com

Komentáře • 117

  • @georgiosplagianos2208
    @georgiosplagianos2208 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Bravo for speaking for the ABS feel problem. I found the same in my Tracer 900

  • @KnoxArmour
    @KnoxArmour  Před 9 měsíci +20

    Bit of an update as I feel like we didn't quite understand this at the time of shooting, but the SP model now has an extra mode for the ABS, which should diable rear ABS. If this works as it should, this feature should elevate the MT09SP to a whole other level in our opinion. 😆
    Hopefully we'll see this start to be applied to other Yamaha models in future such as the MT10, R1 etc. Thanks, Aaron Knox

    • @davidgray8863
      @davidgray8863 Před 8 měsíci

      What strikes me as funny... In 2012 I bought a gsxr 1000 L2 because of Simon Crafar's motovudu video (EPIC go watch ) highlighting that electronic riders aids are not always a good thing... while others lauded their use on bikes. Nowadays we complain if we cannot turn off rider aids lol. I think rider aids are a step forward but quickshifters on road bikes? how is saving a second on your trip to tescos going to benefit you? 😄

    • @vpower87
      @vpower87 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@davidgray8863quickshifter it's Just pure fun...if you try It you never come back

    • @pedronogueira8148
      @pedronogueira8148 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @KnoxArmour Was the problem you found with the intrusiveness of the older MT-09 SP's ABS related to the rear brake? I was under the impression that it was the front brake's ABS that intervened too soon, not so much the rear...

    • @ricardolourizela5961
      @ricardolourizela5961 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@pedronogueira8148 I have the exact same question...

    • @motozest7856
      @motozest7856 Před 6 měsíci +3

      ​@@pedronogueira8148​​​ The switchable rear ABS of this new model will obviously have nothing to do with the sensitivity of the front ABS - these guys have no clue what they're talking about.

  • @bajo
    @bajo Před 9 měsíci +12

    Love the look, but love how upright the gen 3 mt09 is. Not sure my back could handle the new angle!

    • @stinkstank5177
      @stinkstank5177 Před 8 měsíci +4

      Agree. I’m 54 and 6ft tall so I love the ergonomics of my 2023, Perfect bike!

    • @aluisious
      @aluisious Před 4 měsíci

      Funny thing is I'm on the flip side from you, I'm excited that they made the ergos a touch more sporty for better front end feel. I'm not really a fan of being a wind sail on a naked bike.

  • @JDelta87
    @JDelta87 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Most of these updates are what I want in the MT-10. If that next generation is close to this, I'm all in.

    • @KnoxArmour
      @KnoxArmour  Před 7 měsíci

      100% agree with you. Aaron KNOX

    • @Dtp2296
      @Dtp2296 Před 7 měsíci

      The new mt10 just came out last year

    • @aluisious
      @aluisious Před 4 měsíci

      They need to do all of this to the MT07 as well.

  • @darnhard
    @darnhard Před 9 měsíci +66

    stop talking over each other plz

  • @devilmaycry383
    @devilmaycry383 Před 9 měsíci +12

    I stuck with my gen 1 MT-07 since 2016 which I had custom painted. Now I think it's time to move on to the MT-09 SP as it is equipped with all the latest tech and brembo stylema brakes for the first time.
    I like the new look of the next generation MT-09 from the moment Yamaha unveiled it. The front with the new lights looks cool and the overall lines flow well with the rest of the design.
    Having sat on it and seeing it in person at Motorcycle Live, it does feel really good.
    CP2 engine was great fun and sounds amazing, but it's time for a new beginning.

    • @SirMountainpass
      @SirMountainpass Před 9 měsíci

      I’m confident you won’t regret upgrading to the new 2024 SP (also my next bike) 😃👍🔥🏁

    • @leightonvelasquez3434
      @leightonvelasquez3434 Před 6 měsíci +1

      Go for it I am thinking about getting one also

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 Před 3 měsíci

      I'm not sure if SP is worth 2k more euro

  • @haliltaylan6181
    @haliltaylan6181 Před 9 měsíci +6

    Ordered it and can’t wait

    • @KnoxArmour
      @KnoxArmour  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Enjoy!

    • @ThatCleanMT
      @ThatCleanMT Před 9 měsíci

      No. You didn’t.

    • @ididntdoit7252
      @ididntdoit7252 Před 8 měsíci

      You don’t have to reply if you don’t want to but how much out the door for a s p m 09 because I’m thinking about getting one myself. I just don’t trust dealers for not taking care of the customers in the right way.

    • @ThatCleanMT
      @ThatCleanMT Před 8 měsíci

      @@ididntdoit7252 exactly MSRP. They comped detonation charges for me as a long time customer of 12 years. I’ve had a long time established relationship as a repeat buyer so I have never been concerned with being screwed over by them. Always get any deposits put down in writing the terms of the sale anywhere you go. I’ve bought 6 bikes from the same dealer over the years. Same process every time. By the time it shows up, my paperwork is completed, ready to go and I am out the door with the bike in less than an hour.

  • @Bow-to-the-absurd
    @Bow-to-the-absurd Před 9 měsíci +8

    Cant wait for when someone tells me to move on because 'filming'
    Itll end up on youtube for sure

    • @Wisperride
      @Wisperride Před 9 měsíci

      I would tell Them to go +€uk themselfs. I dont give a dime about anyone filming. Paid the same as me so bugger off

    • @KnoxArmour
      @KnoxArmour  Před 9 měsíci +3

      To be fair, this particular video was shot on a press only day dedicated to press and filming...

  • @jayc342009
    @jayc342009 Před 6 měsíci +3

    the sp is gorgeous

  • @thorstenmetalhead9666
    @thorstenmetalhead9666 Před 6 měsíci +2

    Just SAD that ALL THE UNIQUE SELLING POINTS of the MT-09 got eliminated. In 2023, it was the last upright naked bike that people over 1.85 m (6.1feet) could still right comfortably on, that didn't look like an insect but like a Transformer and that still had a subframe/pillion footrests with luggage attachment points, as well as the option of fitting a windshield.
    I like every of the other Transformer light masks in the MT series better than this new one. For the GEN 3 to 2023, Givi and Shad had hard case mounts for larger cases, than on a standard GS in their linup and you could attach a large windscreen to the light mask. The subframe load capacity has been removed from the MT-10 from 2021 to 2022 and now from 2023 to 2024 for the MT-09 as well. It's a pity that none of the reviews mention this.
    If the display becomes so large that it protrudes forward over the light mask, you can no longer retrofit a windscreen. Who convinced the manufacturers that naked bikes have to be made for the racetrack? I've been riding an MT-09 for 30,000 kilometres in 2.5 years and love this engine.
    With in the commuteabilty gone, the last real UJM is unfortunately dying in my eyes.

  • @colinoz
    @colinoz Před 9 měsíci +6

    I know the S1000R has slightly more HP and torque, but I couldn't justify and extra 10k for that bike over something like the MT09 SP.

    • @Dtp2296
      @Dtp2296 Před 7 měsíci

      S1000r is way more powerful, i think you are confusing this with the mt10 which is the direct competitor to s1000r. This my09 is completely different

  • @STcolin
    @STcolin Před 9 měsíci +2

    I have the current gen SP. The riding position was always a bit odd for me, the bars are to high. The front had grip, but the feeling was vague. Just installed some Gilles risers which bring them 24mm lower and a bit further forward (fully adjustable in all directions). It is a subtle but noteable difference. The new felt better, but the reach felt shorter for me. The bars are angled towards you more. The new dash is really nice, but the novelty would wear off after a while. And of course, those Stylemas. Lovely brakes, but the standard setup can be improved with a set of better pads, although still not amazing.

  • @ARC-4824
    @ARC-4824 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I’m going stock ‘24 I just can’t justify the SP cost for the riding that I do.

  • @savvy121
    @savvy121 Před 9 měsíci +2

    if they fixed the abs thing that removes feeling and brake power, I'm buying one again. Let us know when you guys test on out, please!

  • @davidgray8863
    @davidgray8863 Před 8 měsíci +1

    As the discount on the 2023 SP makes it THE direct rival to the new MT09... which is better? the lower more cramped sporty seating with slight tweaks a new dash and headlight... or the old bike with a more comfortable seating position and far superior suspension? definitely the ultimate comparison in March 2024.

  • @costofexpansebrain8025
    @costofexpansebrain8025 Před 8 měsíci +7

    3rd gen headlight looked animal. Now it just looks like it was made in a cheap garage.

  • @rigetskenderaj7014
    @rigetskenderaj7014 Před dnem

    Does the new 2024 mt 09 fit well for a 1.83 cm tall?

  • @Kiran-zn7xc
    @Kiran-zn7xc Před 6 měsíci

    I like the flopsville mount

  • @slashgilmour00
    @slashgilmour00 Před 2 měsíci

    Gen 3 SP or Gen 4 base? What do you pick?

  • @jasperwright4690
    @jasperwright4690 Před 8 měsíci

    Wasn't sold on the new looks but the SP paint scheme is reeaallly nice in this new styling. Also prefer the "street fighter" riding position vs fully upright for a naked bike. Obviously Yamaha isn't interested in making a 120hp motard anymore. This looks like a sport naked. Also looks like my next weekend bike...

  • @MrHive1976
    @MrHive1976 Před 9 měsíci

    Yamaha MT09 perfect in Icon Blue only🙏☝️😎

  • @Bow-to-the-absurd
    @Bow-to-the-absurd Před 9 měsíci +1

    Needs a red white paint job, then it would be top of my list

  • @manasmajumder5365
    @manasmajumder5365 Před 4 měsíci

    Just wow ❤❤❤❤❤ mt 09sp

  • @wolfurine
    @wolfurine Před 9 měsíci +2

    Love the new looks (and I never disliked the last gen either). Sick of the whiners though! Is it my imagination or have Yamaha made their blue more purple this year?! 🤔

  • @alexle1935
    @alexle1935 Před 8 měsíci

    The last gen looked like an evolution from the first gen, this gen however looks like an evolution of the second gen.

  • @dizzicz
    @dizzicz Před 8 měsíci

    If I'm not wrong traction control (and maybe even abs?) should be performance wise same as R1 (which they are saying they based it on). That said, I can see it regularly on the track - brakes and abs itself is for the slower riders (most of us) rarely the issue. Much bigger issue is right timing to use them. With that, even with my old ABS FZ8 i can easily takeover many modern bikes on the brakes.

  • @Notaracist_i_swear
    @Notaracist_i_swear Před 6 měsíci

    I don't know much about mt series but i know a lot about r series
    best looking R series R7
    most loved R series R6
    the big daddy R1

  • @512460
    @512460 Před 6 měsíci

    Lol I wear the exact same pumas in. Size. 11 and my heel hit me exhaust on my s1kr.
    I also agree with that whole duct tape nonsense on the previous gen it looked soo cheap. Also that cooker hop keyless thing loool I thought the same thing

  • @jonomasonILoveU
    @jonomasonILoveU Před 9 měsíci +4

    I love kTm😁.

    • @C.A.MARSUPIAL
      @C.A.MARSUPIAL Před 7 měsíci

      I do too. If this rides better than the Duke 890 buy it. But I really can't believe it would.

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious Před 4 měsíci

    The hob on the cooker is the the thing you put your pot on. You guys really don't know the difference between a hob and a knob?

  • @almo29
    @almo29 Před 9 měsíci

    As an owner of a gen 2 mt09 and having changed all the breaking hardwear and done nothing to the ABS. I can tell you it ABSOLUTLY matters.. Anyone stating differently havent ridden an 09 with better hardwear.

    • @KnoxArmour
      @KnoxArmour  Před 9 měsíci +1

      And to be fair, when we tested Olly's R1 last year with a full Hel braking system, it was really very good! But I think the point is that the stock braking system would be significantly better with a better developed ABS. Thanks, Aaron KNOX

  • @shubsodhi5986
    @shubsodhi5986 Před 7 měsíci +2

    really want to see the r9 soon (hopefully)

  • @ididntdoit7252
    @ididntdoit7252 Před 8 měsíci

    Sorry but I’m falling in love with this mt 09 sp .

  • @biswajitdebnath1134
    @biswajitdebnath1134 Před 5 měsíci

    Nice look super..

  • @hotrodbesty
    @hotrodbesty Před 6 měsíci

    So the Switchgear is off what? At 3:15 you go to say then other guy talks over what you are about to say.

  • @ATL064_
    @ATL064_ Před 6 měsíci

    I find it’s so difficult to own one of these wit the salary I make 😅 but it’s my dream to own one, I will one day!

  • @aluisious
    @aluisious Před 4 měsíci

    I want the MT 09 SP but it'll probably be hard to get a dealer to sell one here without their bullshit mark up fees.

    • @rspraveenkg
      @rspraveenkg Před 4 měsíci

      Get the new 2023 MT09SP for a decent deal discount without any markup

  • @Sasquatchflow
    @Sasquatchflow Před 7 měsíci

    I’m wondering if it’s cheaper to do the SP upgrades on the regular MT 09 yourself than to get the SP with them already on it?

    • @Dtp2296
      @Dtp2296 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Cost you way way more, plus you can't upgrade the electronics unless you are an absolute software wiz! And the paint is way better on the sp

    • @Sasquatchflow
      @Sasquatchflow Před 7 měsíci

      @@Dtp2296good point

  • @ktkace
    @ktkace Před 8 měsíci

    Yamahuh finally figuring out that naked bike TA likes to be IN the bike not ON it after 4 iterations... shocker.
    HERP DERP.

  • @jamiepoole5193
    @jamiepoole5193 Před 9 měsíci

    Not sure what the Two 02 sensors are about, compared to the one on the previous bike?

  • @JamesBond-ph6hr
    @JamesBond-ph6hr Před 7 měsíci

    KYB front ohlins back…

  • @kloppskalli
    @kloppskalli Před 5 měsíci

    looks like they built it for Japanese legs. Cant imagine to be comfortable with such knee angle for more than 30 minutes

  • @KTM525racer
    @KTM525racer Před 8 měsíci

    I’ve never understood why they put ohlins on the rear and KYB upfront, go full ohlins or full KYB…

    • @rpc4266
      @rpc4266 Před 4 měsíci

      To keep cost down as ohlins forks are expensive

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 Před 3 měsíci

      ​​@@rpc4266so how much will it cost to add ohlina on the front?

  • @chrishall9625
    @chrishall9625 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Don't know if that was your first review together, but you sounded like amatures. Maybe practice off camera some more?

  • @melbournechugging2999
    @melbournechugging2999 Před 8 měsíci

    Black rims would be better the blue rims make it look cheap

    • @Geeboats
      @Geeboats Před 7 měsíci

      Powder coat them gold to match forks that's my plan

  • @cnnproperty
    @cnnproperty Před 9 měsíci +1

    ✌🏻

  • @Droeks
    @Droeks Před 9 měsíci

    is the bike better then the mt 10? cant choose

    • @KnoxArmour
      @KnoxArmour  Před 9 měsíci

      Personal choice. The MT10 is on another level again in my opinion, but then again it is a Super Naked and more expensive. czcams.com/video/9Hv8NtBunrw/video.htmlfeature=shared. Aaron KNOX

    • @stevenelliott5403
      @stevenelliott5403 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Get a 10 if you can't choose, I've got both and think they're both great, but the 10 is just more desirable, 9 might be better if you're not that tall as the 10's fairly big

    • @shanec.6930
      @shanec.6930 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Get the mt10, and enjoy spending time at the gas station. You will also enjoy the really high insurance premiums!😅😂

    • @stevenelliott8375
      @stevenelliott8375 Před 8 měsíci

      Insurance for me was about $40 a year more than an MT09SP, the MT10 has bigger tank so you get about the same milage out of a tank on a 2022 MT10, if you're worried about gas and insurance get an MT07!

    • @Dtp2296
      @Dtp2296 Před 7 měsíci

      Mt10 is a far better bike
      Go and test ride one or just ask to sit on them to compare

  • @jackmavro3671
    @jackmavro3671 Před 8 měsíci +1

    That keyless is stupid. Why didn't they look at bmw for a lot of things. The dash is still too small.

    • @Geeboats
      @Geeboats Před 7 měsíci

      Dash is hardly looked at, you're looking at the road, right?

    • @jackmavro3671
      @jackmavro3671 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I use the dash, that's why it's there. Look at CF-Moto. Some of their bikes have an ipad mini as a dash

    • @Dtp2296
      @Dtp2296 Před 7 měsíci

      ​@jackmavro3671 you are riding too slow if you are looking at your dash all the time.

  • @Jim-su7en
    @Jim-su7en Před 8 měsíci

    Did he say his feet were ferver back ?

    • @KnoxArmour
      @KnoxArmour  Před 7 měsíci

      Yes, a bit higher and further back than the previous model. Just feels a bit more sporty. Thanks, Aaron KNOX

  • @MasterBateman
    @MasterBateman Před 5 měsíci

    They just can't resist making the headlight look uglier and uglier for each new model LOL

  • @nikos-giorgos
    @nikos-giorgos Před 2 měsíci

    4:44 "obviously ohlins front and back"...
    Obviously not.

  • @DB-sd3cw
    @DB-sd3cw Před 6 měsíci +1

    Totally destroyed the look. Now it's got the generic ktm/honda naked look...

    • @chriswest2290
      @chriswest2290 Před 4 měsíci

      Looks absolutely fabulous

    • @rspraveenkg
      @rspraveenkg Před 4 měsíci

      Totally, the 2023 version looks sleek 💃🏻 and erogenous ❤ from all sides

  • @EscalateTheSense
    @EscalateTheSense Před 7 měsíci

    I don't think 900cc is middle weight engine lol

    • @KnoxArmour
      @KnoxArmour  Před 7 měsíci

      Well its definitely creeping up isn't it! Aaron KNOX

    • @Dtp2296
      @Dtp2296 Před 7 měsíci

      Power wise and actual weight it is middle weight

  • @Scouse.Malinois
    @Scouse.Malinois Před 6 měsíci

    Love the bike. BUT that plastic around the petrol cap is a fucking joke. Whats wrong with these company's they always designe an amazing bike but just cant help ruin it with a bit of cheap shit plastic somewhere every time

  • @secrets1475
    @secrets1475 Před 7 měsíci

    A bit rude

  • @oscarbecerra1995
    @oscarbecerra1995 Před 4 měsíci

    Ese escape , parece un hemorroide, que horrible

  • @wirahadiwidodo5736
    @wirahadiwidodo5736 Před 8 měsíci

    ថា

  • @sd5458
    @sd5458 Před 4 měsíci

    Yamaha really need to figure out what to do with this ugly as sin exhaust. A fucking aluminum shaped slug type device seated under the bike with zero paint, finish, heat deflectors etc is poor craftsmanship especially when so visible.
    I know mostly people swap exhaust anyways right from the get go, (I didn't ever having a 2017 FZ for 6 years) but boy has the exhaust only gotten uglier and uglier.

  • @Keno_psia
    @Keno_psia Před 7 měsíci +1

    Omfg ... Keyless for sport street bike? Ru kidding me? For scooters perhaps ! But ... Yow i'm about to lose it with all this technologie nonsense ...

    • @Dtp2296
      @Dtp2296 Před 7 měsíci +2

      How is it nonsense. Don't have to mess about with your key. All my cars have it and i would never trade back. You never have to think about it. Especially on a bike with gloves and cold weather, makes so much sense

  • @ohkey2999
    @ohkey2999 Před 7 měsíci +1

    wth is yamaha doing with the headlight? so ugly...

  • @s11039858
    @s11039858 Před 8 měsíci

    Damn those ugly headlights

  • @C.A.MARSUPIAL
    @C.A.MARSUPIAL Před 7 měsíci

    Who does the colour coordination for these bikes. Nothing seems to go together. Those greenish wheels are horrible. The sp has a white and black tank. Gold front forks and blue wheels. The person in charge of aesthetics is definitely colour blind 😮😅