SUPREME COMMANDER EPIC # (order) 66 Custom 4v4 on Setons Clutch
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I don't know which i loved more, Mize's absolute bossness, or Foley's incredible salt.
I honestly don't blame him for being salty. Aurand couldn't micro his air well, and then when he could have made pushes when he later had 500+ ASF and the Strat bombers, he kept sitting on his ass. At the very least he could have split his ASF blob to better protect the other bases later on.
I was practically yelling at both teams with all of misplays and idleness and missed chances during the whole game
At which point i did salty comments?
Nah, not saying the salt wasn't justified, just great to witness. It was right after you got taken out by protect. I spent more time reading game chatter then watching the gameplay.
@@FoleyBTS I came into the comments to see if people called you salty. And they did.. so I guess you came across salty.
@@fluphf How could he not? He spent a significant amount of time after his death nagging the rest of the team over what to do and then getting super pissy when they didn't follow his orders.
"mass killed 66.7k so I'm assuming it landed somewhere" meanwhile Gyle scans past a huge crater where the nuke landed on TH3-11 :') Love the cast though Gyle, glad to see another setons!
Hindsight is 20/20.
He scanned past it like 4 times too lol
Team 2 should have given Mavor to Mize. He didn't have base or units to run, so he would have APM to micro Mavor. One shot, one dead targer. No wasted shots. Then Protect would have more APM to protect Mavor and play air. Mize did do nice with reclaim thou.
Entertaining game regardless and thanks to Gyle for casting!
I hope Foley had a nice cup of tea and a lie down after that.
Possibly the greatest RTS map of all time. Just perfect.
have you ever heard of strait to the point?
This map is also in Company of Heroes 2 (Called Seton’s Clutch) lol
@@tiestofalljays And i see this map on other game too
*Looks at video length.*
Today is a good day.
Edit: I don't even play but watching the Southern team win air then totally fail to use it to clear top pond for literally 2 universes of expended time gave me brain damage. Nice air work otherwise but not clearing the top pond got them nuked into the next century and was a totally solvable issue especially with how passive Aurand was even with 500 asf's late game.
yeah it felt like they were not emotionally ready to use that advantage.
I wholeheartedly agree. Especially that first nuke from red, I couldn't believe he sent it to the highly spread-out enemy base instead of using it to secure his own base. They dedicated way too much time trying to reach into enemy base instead of securing their land.
As soon as red started bragging about all his Januses and that everyone should just feed him mass so he could deal with everything, I knew they were going to lose and I was not disappointed. Supcom is THE game you should NEVER assume you have already won before the game is over and he just proved it once more. I am both happy and frustrated that he lost, happy because he deserved it since he doesnt seem to realize how much his team were doing for him, gifting mass to him while tanking any and all attacks and still somehow holding the front even though the entire north pond was a nightmare of T2 boats spewing missiles... small miracle they held the other team from just march down the middle.
Kinda how Foley kept bashing his team for all the things he thought they were doing wrong, dude, they are 1200-1300 rank players and you are 2300. Its not weird that they are not as good as a 2300 player!
Its really a shame because I felt like this game was a great example of air vrs air done... well? Of the casts I've watched its usually just a blob flying into another blob and then someone wins but these two air players engaged each other with feints and waves and it was generally very interesting. Given that, I too am flummoxed by how grossly mishandled that gunship advantage was.
maybe you should play and show how it is done?
It was interesting watching the minimap at 44:40 as the nuke lands smack in the middle of Th3-11’s base, wiping out his main four mexes and reducing his mass income by 100, you can just barely hear it go off over Gyle’s frantic commentating on the brutal aerial onslaught from Protect at the opposite end of the map.
Haven't watched a single Starcraft II cast since I started watching Gyle's casts two years ago. Every game is so unpredictable, I love the endings and the surprises along the way!
Starcraft II sucks balls! (As a spectacle)
Shout out to our man foley for his 'advice' with a 2300 score of pure salt. Got to love it when someone says your going to lose because you don't listen to their master plan only for you to win. Mmmmm! Satisfying! Excellent game from everyone!
Foley? You mean the first one to drop? xD
Except Foley was their best player, carrying his entire team before he was killed and winning, and the reason the game took so long to finish was because the rest of team 1 was pretty dumb.
@@eamonnholland5343 Idk if his 'advice' of throwing all of their nukes at vast amounts of smd (which he was well aware of) was very useful.
"Just fire all your nukes!"
-"...they'd be wasted on smd..."
"Then quit! gosh freakin noobs omg noone listens to ME"
-launches nukes where they can actually land and do damage
"omg you idiots are wasting your nukes on (checks notes) not smd!"
and on top of that, telling aurand to surrender his asf's after he finally gained air-control? his 'advice' would've lost them the game.
I'm 70 minutes in and it's a wonder anyone hasn't told him to just shut the fuck up yet.
@@evanmichaels8563 Go back and watch the video. At 45:30, right after Foley died and his teammates got his stuff, Foley told them "I have 2 nuke subs". At 49:20 Foley again told Aurand to make nukes. At 53:10 Foley told Aurand he's eco stalling which is delaying his nukes. At 54:40 Foley told them they had delayed so long with their nukes, that the enemy team now has SMDs loaded. All the way up to 1:03:15 Foley was continually telling them to scout (with air) and use nukes to overwhelm their SMDs to kill enemy commanders, and for Aurand to stop spamming air, which was causing eco stall, which was delaying his nukes.
Foley was right. Aurand delayed for a full 10 minutes when he could've used Foley's nuke subs to kill enemy commanders before their SMDs were loaded. Later, Foley was trying to get his teammates to overwhelm their SMDs with nukes, but his teammates weren't listening, even though Foley told them that since the enemy team were building a Mavor it would increase their SMD load time. It's also funny that Foley's team started winning when they started doing exactly what Foley told them to do, use nukes to overwhelm the SMDs.
Foley was clearly frustrated with his team mates' mistakes, but he was right.
Those split-wing ASF attacks that Protect pulled off even when down on fighters compared to Aurand have to be some of the best I've ever seen (even if that one did end horrifically - that happens sometimes :P).
I get foley being salty AF after that, not saying he was correct but I get it. He cleared north pond, TMLed 2 players into a non factor for the first 1/2 of the game then lost his com defending his teammate while his air player totally dropped the ball in the early air war.
This is why you don't go seal clubbing and join games where the average ELO of the rest of the players - both allies and enemies - is 1k below yours. No one really dropped the ball as much as playing at their expected skill level, but seeing him not enjoying his seal club run is satisfying in itself.
@@applemauzel they don't use ELO in FAF just so you know.
Also this isn't match making, everyone in the lobby agreed to play with a 2300 on 1 team.
@@nilloc93 nothing you said changes what Zephiris said though.
@@applemauzel lol you ever played faf? over 2000 players are about as rare as unicorns.... guy has to play with someone and 2000 rankers are hard to come by.
@@mrdonkay29 doesn;t excuse staying in chat and abusing your team for an hour, if this is what elite players are like i have no interest in dipping into this community especially if people are going to excuse awful behavior
Such a weird game of Setons. Also those plays from Mize towards the end were, dare I say, epic.
Ah, a nice sunday evening treat. I wonder what would happen if a korean TV hosts would post one of these of Gyle's epic casts on prime time instead of a star craft game...
its awesome to see that people still play this amazing rts
Now I understand why the launcher is called "Forged Alliance *Forever*"
"not known for their defensive prowess" -cries in HARMS, those are brutal
Gunships rushing towards top rated player
Gyle: Lets admire how the gunships are floating on the water over there.
@1:06:20 - you got to give Protect credit, that was a neat trick - splitting his forces to evade the large blob and hit the bombers from both sides...
if only he hadnt wasted that one nuke on the base, and hit the SCUs on their doorstep instead, before they could do damage
Comhead at it's finest
That manouver was quite impresive. Even with double the ASFs they couldnt really enforce air dominance
Still one of the best Strategy games out there.
Top 5 series. Without a doubt.
You could use this cast as a lecture on "Perception". If we were playing this game we would hate Mize for just refusing to accept it´s over. But as a viewer we had a hilarious time with him. All comes down to perception.
To be fair, if he had got a lucky Tac snipe or his monkey lord had stayed in the water a little longer he (technically) could have won the game still.
it would be hilarious if monkey lord would take out mice (yellow). I was waiting for this epic event to happen.
That attack on Foley looked a lot like the Battle of Midway. Constant waves of air harassment that never let up until the job is done.
new intro is POPPIN. you're vids are like a little moment of comfort in this chaotic time. Thanks
yes
I miss the old intro already :(
Mize was hilarious in that game. Drove Team 1 absolutely batty. : D
I am simple girl, I see Seton's Clutch, I click.
Simply a cultured lady, dare I say
Your husband is a lucky man. My wife would never play FAF, let alone watch a game stream.
@@ChristopherVickers I'm not married, and very bad at FA, but I love the game too much to quit :)
@@DominikoPL Do thy not now about our lord and saviour Seton's Clutch?
@@jessblues848 "very bad at FA" - everyone tries to be self-deprecating, but in this case there's a precise number we can apply to that. So what's your rating? You may not be as bad as you think. :)
i am so so glad that this series is still going strong :)
love it how they turned the game around as soon as the toxic andy was gone.
Gyle I know these don’t get too many views but I absolutely love these commentary videos. Thanks for all your work for the supreme commander community.
The ending part was incredibly amusing tbh
57:00 - Meanwhile in Vietnam: "Anyone that runs is a Cybran. Anyone that doesn't run is a well-disciplined Cybran."
"It will be done my lord Gyle."
The only reason I'm giving MVP to TH3-11 instead of Protect is b/c the latter could have used his air advantage to help Mize get their base back, especially in the minutes after Foley was defeated.
34:40 "Shows you the initiative"
Fresh Gyle cast to sooth my aching old bones.
Praise be on to him who posts cast regularly!
Love the speed up at the beginning and than slowing Down when action begins,makes game more enjoyable!!!
And Mavor always amazes me the best unit of the game when it comes to destroying enemies 😮
It is always epic to see large armies of units.
Especially when spammed that was a lot of cruisers and Janis bombers also asfs too.
Your videos are significantly better without anti-spoiler.
Agreed.
that foley death wow he was mega strong but couldn't be protected from airforce damn that was epic
just seen this as I get back from the shops with beer and icecream, perfect timing as always
Ice cream with beer?
I figured MrScience and Mize were friends when MrScience told Mize to run from the causeway early on, but even with that I didn't expect to see such awesome trolling and good natured play at the end of this truly epic battle.
Hats off to you both, that was a joy to behold. Laughed like a loon for the last few minutes of this one.
Also, props to Protect for that masterful air kill on Foley, beautifully executed.
i realy need to go to bed but watching this guys videos is keeping me awake
Funny, I had put this on to sleep.
i wish i found these so much sooner, KEEP IT UP GYLE I LOVE YOU
Just finished watching. Amazing cast, truly epic game.
I absolutely love Protect's plays as well as the fight on top right part of the map. Good stuff
23 MINUTES AND THIS MATCH IS AWESOME
i'd like to see re-winds when multiple major events happen simultaneously, love the commentary!!!
Exquisite ! Just bloody brilliant !
Usually Jerry (CaptainMouse) gets the better of Thomas (Th3-11) but guess not that time lol
Holy moly, the last attack on Foley was like the very hot moment in soccer.
Thank you, Gyle, for your efforts and dedication! The style of your speech admires me :)
Wow! lovin the new look intro! :) FAB
436 hours of game time. Epic work faf team
I love how you have no ads mr Gyle
Brilliant effects. Bravo whoever made the nukes and napalm.
The first part was quite good, once foley died, it started slow down a lot. The rock land invasion and foley death was quite entertaining.
I happen to like that song thank you very much! lol
Great caster. Love your videos.
9:15 This is bothering me, Team 2 didn't have an Aeon player and they had a perfect opportunity to capture an Aeon factory, which would have given them access to Aeon units such as the Colossus. Instead, Lavender allowed their units to keep shooting the factory, even while engineers were capturing it.
three t1 engies won't make it in time, if he started capturing the factory it can be ctrl+k
gg great battle i want to play this game now lol loved it
Holy shit Mize confirmed for Gigachad
Great Cast Gyle like always :)
As someone who’s never played this game, could someone please explain to me why Mize never rebuilds any infrastructure for mass/energy generation after getting his base wiped? It seemed like he had breathing room to reclaim wrecks and get set back up.
Tbh it looks like he could have easily turned the tide for his entire team with how smooth his plays at the end were.
Well, we can see that but he can't.
So many missed opportunities! So many dodgy nukes from science and aurand, hitting stuff that didn't matter (non-mavor nukes)! Really feel for Foley.
Yeah it's the curse of a higher rated player trying to coach people who know less than you without sounding like a know-it-all. Nobody listens, everyone makes dumb mistakes. Even as a 1400 player myself (playing with around 1k players), it's very frustrating. And also because you're higher rated, you're targeted first and get eliminated leaving idiots to look after your base. :)
@@diliff Lower rank doesn't mean they are idiots. Less experienced players can easily lose their focus and get confused in a long game where lots of things happen.
@@diliff Jesus, calling someone idiots because they haven't played a thousand more games and gained the experience that you have, wow.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 calm down, are we not allowed to slightly exaggerate to make a point? 🤷🏻♂️😉
@@diliff Don't you think it's you who needs to calm down? I wasn't the one calling others idiots.
Love the vids gyle appreciate you keeping it up
New intro? Best map? Long video? Epic!
Ah yes, Setons Clutch. We meet again!
Finally!! checked your channel 1 hour ago or so.. Nothing!
Thx for your casts. Epics are great. (havent watched yet.
Foley with that insane 1v4 gameplay
35:30 T2 euf transports have always landed on water. I just checked on steam version. They land because they double as a transport. T2 UEF gunships have the "transport" tag, T3 EUF gunships have the "Anti-air" tag and they can't land on water. and yes the t2 do refuel while they are "water-landed". imgur.com/a/zZsdZk4
Thats an interesting explanation, but why do transports have the ability to land on water?
@@wubanizer well there's tons of "dropping in water" situations, first of any and all engineers. they go on the water surface. there are lots of units that hover over the water that can go into transports, some that are amphibian like cybran t2 tank and t3 brick, as well as all SACUs. you're supposed to have an animation for droping them over water and yeah the mechanic for the entire game is that only happens "in that layer" by "landing" I guess? or some other engine limitation. I'm pretty sure on a Moho engine level the rule is water landing is intertwined with transport. don't know more than that sorry.
@@tatsuuuuuu No that feels correct, I appreciate the time you took and your ideas make sense to me!
may the great space sea take this one to the lunch he needs
and the beer he deserves
As a new player to FAF, I just wish most noob games weren't on Astro or Dualgap (as only having to defend one lane takes a lot of strategy out of the game), but I guess team matchmaking may fix that.
Those maps are terrible
Set some up on other maps. Most people are just waiting for someone else to do it.
Gyle done that million of times :)
I feel you, gap games are like some different, stripped down version of supcom where much of the best aspects are lost. I don't know why they are so popular but I believe they are slowly choking the life out of FAF. They just aren't satisfying to play and rarely lead to epic game play. Honestly, if it were up to me I'd ban gap games except on Sundays or something.
wubanizer Yes. FaF is a fairly difficult game. But instead of getting better a lot of people choose to get an easy to play map which indeed causes the best elements of supreme commander to get lost. The thing that worries me, is that new players are inclined to join these games because they are easily available. These maps need to be actively discouraged in my opinion.
How can you miss a nuke crater? :) Great job....
gotta love that backseat gaming from foley.
THAT...was fucking INCREDIBLE!!!!!! Awesome Play Mize!! Great game all!
@44:02 **Through the Fire and Flames intensifies**
Sabaton - Firestorm: czcams.com/video/5QMtffaHPc8/video.html
Intro felt like if was in the cinema (actually sat in the train)
great game, and not much slow down either. thanks buddy
Looks Like A Fun And In Depth Game
Amazing match!
Aj's for the win im defo bying this on the next sale
Respect Foley's sufferings: but sometimes newb players are just gonna newb it up. Opponent suffered from the same of 'what do i do now?~" syndrome. turned out to be a glorious cluster F in the end. South Team after all was basically playing 2v3 for the longest time.
Us ANZ guys had a small 3v3 random map gen tourney, it was interesting. Some good maps, some bad ones, I managed to cast a bunch of 'em - was all about skill not map knowledge.
Side note: Suggest you message your Patreon members when a cast is available there, I did now know until you said it now.
Thanks Gyle :-)
Great game to watch!
Gyle cast, on seatons life doesn't get better..
protect best setons player for mid tier
Spoilers: please read this comment after watching the video.
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Project got his eco to 339 mass income and then kept it there for the rest of the game. If he had continued to grow his eco he probably would have won. He needed more eco to turtle better to protect his mavor and even to build a 2nd one.
All he needed was a Quantum Gateway steadily churning out RAS Support Commanders.
Also if full share hadn't been on, team 2 probably would have won. And no fairies would have died :)
Mize wasn't the hero we wanted. but the one we needed.
I almost exited out once Protect fell. EXTREMELY glad I didn't.
Still a great game, wish there was a modern version with bigger maps, bigger unit caps, updated graphics and such.
The game mechanics are the best of all RTS games by far.
Idk if this is dead for gyle, but when can we get more of gyle learning the game !!!! Or maybe playing???
Yea I really liked the antispoiler with gyle having a quick game and showed his progress
This!^^^ I want the next tournament to read, "Major upset as out of nowhere Gyle takes gold and becomes our new lord of FaF"
Crazy game! I was rooting for team one at first but then started rooting for team 2 after foly died aha! I love when science said "found the maven" ahahahaa
that combat engy drop was fucking sick lol
The match would have been over so much faster if they just listened to Foley smh my head
1:56 Holy nuts, if galactic war is what I think it is (a dynamic campaign where you go game to game slowly conquering the galaxy) I'm super interested. I hope they go beyond bare bones though. Some type of progression of power would be great. Adding more interesting things like sub factions, events, and modifiers for games would be unbelievable.
Fuckin hell, all these casts and streams I watched, played myself but ffs since when mantis can help fix stuff???
I swear to God this is the first time I see it. What the hell
The Seraphim campaign is insanely hard. I've beaten all of the original campaigns on hard multiple times fairly readily, and the first Seraphim mission stomped me repeatedly.
This was a game thrown very hard I feel.
lmao, LOVE Mize
OOOOOOOH that bomber bait at 1:05:30
This was a hilarious game
Quick, someone make a new map: Foley’s Salt!
Naughty naughty walkie walkie tech
PLEASE build air staging. Your robotic pilots will love you for it. You will win more air fights, and save vast quantities of resources by repairing and refueling aircraft. If your air player isn't doing this, build them yourself and donate them.
Here's stuff that has air staging pads:
1. T1 air staging buildings.
2. Fatboy.
3. Siren cruisers.
4. T3 carriers.
5. Atlantis.
6. Czar.
There are no t1 air staging
Also, Siren cruisers*
@@zjotheglorious fixed the cruiser name, thanks. Also, the air staging buildings were moved to t1 and buffed at some point. unitdb.faforever.com/
Icy Knightmare oh cool i didn’t know that
Foley's takedown was beautiful, goddamn.