New Ryobi HP vs Ryobi P251 (Hammer Drills)
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
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Awesome video man this channel is objectively the best place to watch tool vs videos.
you are correct and I thank you
I have the P251 and it's my first Ryobi product. When i bought it i was skeptical at first to how it would hold up to others like Dewalt and i have to say i am now a Ryobi fan! It has been an incredible drill so far and I've owned it for 4, almost 5 years now. Very good drill for its price, I recommend them!
im impressed with it as well and it has a fantastic hammer feature
They look sweet bro thanks for sharing your getting better and better at CZcams
I thank you Thomas
Hey thanks for the review. this was the one I was waiting to see cause I have the old model and I was wondering if it's worth upgrading. Also I appreciate the concrete test cause I drill alot of that for tapcon screws. I think you should include concrete test in a verses video or a review cause they are hammer drills. I've watched alot of your hammer drill videos and it seems rare to see concrete test. But thanks again Im leaning more now to upgrading
you are welcome Weldon
If you're drilling a lot of concrete, don't even waste money on homeowner grade hammer drills. Get a proper corded SDS if you want bang for the buck. The key to effective use of budget tools is to understand their limitations and what will wear them out excessively fast.
Now if you don't really "drill alot" of concerte, then just keep using what you have and if you wear it out, then it is time to get the latest model and only makes sense to get what uses same batteries you already have, unless you don't have the magical HP batteries and then, your old batteries may not give you the performance you expect, and yet, batteries too, need replaced every now and then.
Good review, can’t wait to get one!
I thank you Anthony
I own the RPD18X and buyed this in Germany at BAUHAUS. I think the RPD18X is the european similar Model to the PBLHM101 with one little difference. On Paper they have difference Torque: RPD18X=95Nm, PBLHM101=85Nm
I am very satisfied with this Tool. It makes fun to work with. Good Test and a professional Video 👍
Glad to see this comparison as well. Either one of these Brushless versions would spank the older brushed versions.
I do love the new HP
Good video. I love that you use the new battery with both the new and old drill and I love that you put up the times, while you're drilling it, of the old and new side by side.
Yesterday I was using an old P214 Hammer Drill that hasn't been used much with a 3/16" Tapcon bit for some 1/4" x 1 3/4" Tapcon screws and it wouldn't hold that bit unless I tightened it with the chuck gripped in a bench vise. I pick a new P251 some months ago and have yet to use it. Is the chuck on the P251 any better than the chuck on the P214. Now I will say this was the toughest concrete I've ever drill into, it's a heavy equipment shed and I suspect the man that had it built spend extra on some type of high strength concrete which don't get me wrong is great. Thanks!
the old p251 did a good job at keeping up...new hammer drill great if u wanna upgrade.
I thank you for viewing :)
Do the first test on speed two using the hammer selection seems to kick ass for me with those sort of drill bits...Bit of a bogus comparison at 3:45 it took an extra 3 seconds for the cutting edge to reach the timber over the second test.
The new ryobi drill and impact drill are great but they should of kept the lights by the actual chuck where you need it. Then they could of put a magnet tray which is another great/ handy tool.
Hey can you test this against the non fuel milwaukee Hammer drill?
They both should have the same torque at 750 inch pounds
Yes I can and I thank you for suggestion Jason
The old version is adequate for drilling if both feet are on the ground. It just takes longer. There is also a chuck slipping problem. That is solved by using clutch mode to tighten. I don't see a reason to update. However, the SDS hammer Ver2 is worth looking into as an upgrade. When you're up on a ladder, the old hammer drill is a NOGO.
This new hammer drill is impressive, but I'd recommend a different color.
Well, there's a list of things they're changing with the HP series... Newer battery is an update and offers better performance than the older HP+ batteries, which for the high powered tools like the SDS drill and grinder make a difference... Self power regulation makes the tools more efficient and should run longer on a charge than the older tools... Improved self protection system should make them much harder to brick/burn out and release the magic smoke... They're more streamlined and lighter, and first to offer compact versions for Ryobi that weren't 12v limited... and they're expanding them into the 40v line up as well, which is coming out with some new options like the Auger drill, and a 1800W inverter is coming out soon... While for the 18v they've discontinued the 2 battery 36v 10" sliding miter saw but they're coming out with a 7 1/4" sliding miter saw for the HP series that'll run on 1 battery and is optimal with the new High Performance 6AH battery for the HP series...
So there's bit more to it, big picture wise...
The only terrible update so far is the circular saw, looks like they are attempting to create one that is compatible with a track system to be used like a Track Saw but it has some design flaws they need to fix...
Others, like the compact tools, just have to understand their place as they're not meant to replace the larger tools. While some you won't see their max performance until the new High Performance batteries are out too as they are optimized for the HP tools...
I love how much metal is on it and the new handle, more tests will be coming
@@ZeoCyberG I bought the first brushless 7 1/4" saw ,it was crap ,got excited when the new one came out and it was crap also ,I am slowly moving over to Dewalt. Btw I have always had an exceptional run out of Ryobi drills but their chucks were always wobbly.
my ryobi hp hammer drill and my ryobi compact drill both lost most of their rpms on the first day, anyone have an idea what this means? after 5 minutes they both would only spin at about 400rpms possibly even less. maybe it cant switch to speed 2?
Ryobi definitely made a major update. I am glad I purchased the new Hammer Drill. Great review!
Where’s Tim from Canada with the negative comments 😂🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
lol, I am waiting for his comments as well lol
Meh, seems silly to me to buy a new drill unless your current one broke. Who is really racing someone to drive screws professionally? I'm sure there's that ONE GUY out there, who is drilling the same hole repetitively all day long and could shave 3 minutes off his 10 hour long work day but I for one, wouldn't want to be that guy, lol.
What is better to take, new HP, or Dewalt, similar in price.
i like 4ah batteries and rapid charger but plan on upgrading brushed drill driver to hammer drill brushless.
sounds like a plan Chris
Not sure why you decided to use the newer battery technology on just the newer drill... You must use at least a four amp hour and optimally a 6 or 9 hour to get full power from the HP tools that have the two extra connectors.... You could have at least use the same battery on both tools for a fair comparison
New drill system against older drill system.
I see that the *One+ HP* is a great step for the Ryobi power tools.
Not arguing performance here but I think the HP tools are lacking a lot of the nice features of previous brushless models. You’ve lost the magnetic holder, bit holder, and the battery doesn’t have rubber molding.
If you’ve got a real reason to upgrade or old one breaks it would make sense. Otherwise I’d say stick with your current tools.
That being said the outdoor HP tools look like big improvements. The 18in 40V chainsaw looks like a beast, new string trimmer looks great, they’ve added the augers to the line up, etc.
I hate that the new batteries do not have that molding on the bottom. it bothers the crap out of me
Agree but the biggest thing I hate that they changed was moving the lights to the bottom instead of in the front. I dont know what they're thinking but that was dumb for many reasons.
At 3.46 it took over 3 seconds to penetrate the wood?
Wonder why the magnet section is smaller on the newer one? It’s really handy in certain applications.
there is no magnet section on the newer one
Do a side by side video of Ryobi HP drill vs its equivalent priced brother HP impact driver.
Great Video
I thank you Luxury
I don't think Ryobi was making complete crap 2 years ago like you said. I have a drill from 10 years ago still working great.
Same here I bought a used one at a swap meet around 10 years also n it still works great 🤘🤘
This is the problem with youtube videos, where reviewers try to make mountains out of mole hills and can't fathom just grabbing a tool and getting work done. It's always some race, or some thought that since it isn't their money, should someone else replace a tool that works perfectly fine, or pay the premium for the newest model if the reason they picked a homeowner grade brand to begin with was to save money because they don't need ultimate performance.
Ryobi will never be the top pick if there isn't a budget limit, but knowing their limitations, they are a great value as long as you don't waste money on their latest greatest just arrived models that haven't been discounted yet, like if they haven't been put in the free tool w/batteries bundles during Ryobi Days at Home Depot. If they have and you have the pick between the newer vs older drill, sure get the new one. If you can get the older free with batteries you need anyway, seems silly to spend another, what, $100+ chasing a little bit more performance because that race never ends. There's always going to be something just a little better next year.
Now this is what I wants to really know. If upgrading is needed or not.
Doesn't seem like it. Unless a few secs is that important. That ratcheting Chuck is nice though
Upgrading is needed... get the hell away from the green. The fact that they have 14 different drill drivers and 17 hammer drill versions. HP this and one plus that and HP Compact Plus +. It seems like every “sales” holiday a year (New Years tool introduction, spring time quarterly reset, Father’s Day, ryobi days, end of summer, Black Friday, and Xmas) they have a new drill driver and new hammer drill. “Ooh goodie, they changed the sticker on the side and made it .0025 seconds faster to drill a hole, I must get the new version!”
im glad I can help you out.
thanks Dave
I thank you Detrital
Good idea for video
It was bit strange. Im in Iceland and i was in the store last saterday and i was compering this two or i think i was. The euro types have diffrent numbers. The old one was register at 84Nm or 743. But the new one was clearly market on the pack as 54Nm or 478. I was very surprice by that so i ended up buying the old one, the last one they had. I thought maybe becaus the old one had the 2 HP battery connectors wish the other one did not. Also the new one here only has 1700 rpm vs 1800 on the old....very confused right now 🙂 but great video wish i had seen it before buying (live 5 hours away from the store).
atleast there was slight improvement based on times on the video but when i was looking up the new ryobi hammerdrill and i was surprised and disappointed when they didn't improve the torque on the hammerdrill both ridgid and milwaukee have 1200 was expecting ryobi to bump up to atleast 1000 inch pounds
I love that they added more metal and a much better handle
I wouldn't trust a 1200 inch pound claim so boldly.
There's a high torque drill called hilti sf-10W and it has a multi-pole high torque motor with 4 physical brushes, 4 actual physical transmission gearings instead of 2 like all normal drills. It only claims around 1000 inchpounds despite using 24 volts.
Because of the internals though, I actually believe it can do it. I don't think it's wise to trust any _'small'_ one-handed drill claiming to put out 1200 inch pounds with only a basic brushless motor and only two transmission gearings
If you need that much strength, get a paint mixer 😁
@@Biaanca5036 yes i agree, i don't think that Milwaukee arrive to 1200
The old drills is it PSBHM01? Thank you
That's the new drill/driver
Finally a belt clip!
Maybe it is me - but saw some video from Ryobi themselves - speed 2 is for bits and screws into someting. Speed 1 is for all kinds of drilling. Speed 2 only for screws - slower speed to not damage screws. So nothing alarming here with speed 2 - not meant to be able to that. Doesnt it state so in the manual ?
Any benefits of using the hammer function on logs?
no, it will actually slow the tool down when trying to use it on wood
The differences in performance is negligible tho the new handle is indeed better. BUT, by far the most used and useful feature is missing in the newer version, the magnetic tray. Hands down this feature out ways any improvements of the newer drill by sheer volume of use. 99% of the time i don’t have the handle attached but 99% of the time i use the magnetic tray!!!
I do miss the tray as well, and I thank you for viewing 729
if you need a good magnet buy a neodymium magnet on ebay and glue it in place, much better than the mediocre magnet tray on the old drill.
a strong magnet and a double sided tape, bobs your uncle. You can get creative with it and make a lazy Susan or fidget spinner with it 😂
Can u actually use a Regular 0ne+ 18V batterie in the New One ?
if the battery has lithium ion cells in them, then yes you can
How does this new ryobi compare to the Milwaukee M18 (non-fuel)
I will have to do that video and I thank you for the suggestion drum
You know which one I’m taking about right the M18 brushless Model# 2902-20
Would you recommend the makita 12v system for an 11 year old
I would but make sure to get The brushless versions because they are way more powerful than the older brushed version. I also have the Milwaukee M-12 brushless stuff and love it. The Dewalt X-Treme 12 volt brushless stuff ish awesome and powerful too. Any one of these brands are great. But only get the brushless tools.
yes I do, a 12v tool won't be overpowered for your abilities
U should do a old Milwaukee vs a new one
I did do a video on brushless vs Fuel
We can't get these new ones in Australia
im sorry about that aussie
The really wobbly chucks on Ryobi always bugged me ,I hope theyve fixed that .
they might have
I own an ancient P213, and I've never had an issue with the chuck
Aren't these drills designed to do the heavy duty drilling on speed 1 and not speed 2?
I test out both speeds, I thank you for viewing Bennet
gotta compare the new hp Sawzall!
yes I do and I will be picking that up
Hi I would like to buy a hammer drill what the latest ryobi hammer drill ?
The latest model is PBLHM101B
Still confused why they took away the magnetic tray. Literally one of the biggest deal breakers for me.
What batteries are being used in the new 4ah batteries. 21700???
I thank you for viewing
I think only the 3 has those
Ok, but I just wanted to know what cells are in the battery packs. I could always take mine apart and take a peek
18650s only the p195 has 21700s
by letting the hp spin the lag longer makes the hole bigger, that leads too easier removal. that’s giving hp an advantage 🧐
Both of these tools are HP tools
Why does it fail on speed 2 for new drill
Because it is not meant to be used like that. Speed 2 is for screws and not drilling !
Wonder how the new drill performs with the older non HP batteries
Ive heard differing information one of which stated that because the new drills dont have the HP tab on the back they treat all batteries as if they are HP batteries....I honestly dont know if thats true or not but the performance for me seems the same regardless of HP battery or standard.
@@shadowbanned5164 the compact series and OPE don't have the terminals (which is where most people don't bother to check and start bitching for no reason) but the full size HP tools do have the terminals, although even then it's only the power hungry tools for some reason.
They could've atleast left the bit holder in this one and the impact
I also think the LED might could be underneath the chuck
@@ManCaverTools yea or around it like the rigid. I always used the bit holder it sucks not being there. Is it possible to purchase one or does anyone sell those separately
Like Ryobi HP new👍
I do as well
I have a old Milwaukee. Hammer drill and it’s a good drill but for some reason I dropped it on the road and now in forward it’s real high torque and not as much in reverse thow
I need to get more old tools
Before I even watch , I bet the old one Wins ...👍
lol,
Man caver tools do you want horse shoes to weld with
I have a metal supply shop down the street from me. so Ill have plenty of metal :)
How do get a belt clip..come on Ryobi..gees
you might want to look on eBay or even search HD for the belt clip online
Looks impressive. Everyone gets tetchy about this and that. My Ryobi brushed drill is still going strong from 2014. Will upgrade when finally the smoke escapes. But as of yet 10 years of heavy use still going strong.
It is counterproductive to loosen a detent when locking the drill chuck.
It is a myth.
#10
I thank you Mr E
The older one seems stronger to me
they did seem to be evenly matched but the new one has a lot of metal on it
Yeah whatever I get some money I need to buy me one
I thank you for viewing Tom
Analogous to Milwaukee brushless and Milwaukee brushless fuel.
I thank you for viewing :)
No especifico en ningun momento los newtons metro de los taladro o las rpm o los bpm???
Terminando el video.
I couldnt find a reliable source for the extra info
The other reviews made it look like it was much better than this why did they bother
they are pretty much the same, but the new one does have a lot more metal and the hammer feature seems to be better
The only reason I would upgrade to new is not the minor speed and power difference its the compact design & look, Ryobi doing nice job design wise, just wish they got away from that neon type green color .
I do thank you so much for viewing :)
Neon looks cool, it's different.
Plus they're easier to find in the dark
Why you are expecting new one can do high toque at speed 2? Did Ryobi reinvented the Physics? LOL
1st
I thank you Pirate
😆🍩☕😊
I thank you Konaman
No drill will do speed bores on 2.
yes they do, depends on the drill.
@@ManCaverToolsone thing is what they can do - another is what does manual say ? Read manual then do test ☺️
Great video, as always. Seems like the new Ryobi is still underpowered compared to Ridgid, Kobalt, Makita, etc.
we will see in versus videos
Ok but the older looks cooler sorry but I disagree completely
I like the newer version better myself. it looks cooler
Someone stole your content and made a CZcams channel here's the link you might want to report the channel as a Creator myself
they have been doing that for Years but I thank you Thomas
way to much talking on topic not related to tool
so, then don't watch.