Wolves’ Historic Performance, Round 2 Closeout Games & The Future Of The Cavs | The Hoop Collective
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- Wolves’ Historic Performance, Round 2 Closeout Games & The Future Of The Cavs | The Hoop Collective
Brian Windhorst is joined by ESPN’s Tim Bontemps and Tim MacMahon to react to Anthony Edwards and the Timberwolves putting together a historic performance to force a Game 7 in Denver, break down who holds the upper hand in the Knicks-Pacers chess match for Game 6, what the future holds for the Cleveland Cavaliers stars and coaching staff and what has been going right for Dallas against the Thunder.
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0:00 Intro
2:34 Wolves Force Game 7 With Historic Win
9:19 "Reliable Connection" Ant Edwards Can Do Something Special
25:05 Can The Knicks Close Out The Pacers?
38:51 What Is Going Wrong In The Cavs Corner?
1:03:09 Can The Thunder Force Dallas To Game 7?
1:15:43 Thanks For Watching!
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ESPN never fire Windy - dudes a legend
if ESPN fires windy ill just follow windy at whatever networks hes at. GOAT
Game 7 is about to be a “ WWE, No Holds Bar, Hardcore, TLC, Money In The Bank) type of game 😂
More like a Casket Match
Depends how they ref it
@@mattwhitely1067If it’s officiated like a typical game which means just letting them play. This should benefit the T-Wolves
Nah they getting blown out at Denver watch somehow there gonna look like they did the passes 3 games and somehow lose the ability to shoot like they did and watch Jamal start to make shots
@moondogg007 nope. Jamal Murray did not score over 20 this whole series ant doing a great job. You contain Murray you beat the nuggets
The Tim's all week! What a treat. More, please.
Facts love when the trio is together💪
I still cannot comprehend how Tim Bontemps interrupts so often to hear his own voice
No it’s literally so hard to listen to … the way most people wait for pauses in conversation as a cue before they start talking, Tim Bontemps waits for one of his cohosts to begin speaking as a cue for him to interrupt them. That he does this with a voice and vocal intonation that makes a dying geese sound harmonious, makes it really hard to listen to his usually correct, logical basketball opinions.
7 is about to be a DOG FIGHT!
Not putting any money on that after watching game 6 lol.
Pit bull vs. Corgi
Sounds like a real Ron Mexico production.
Dog fighting is so cool and humane, let's glamorize it. He got that dog in him
@@Earl_E_Burd 🤦
At 4:27 Windy unleashes the funniest, most low key and yet cleverest roast of Stephen A Smith ever. (To understand the set up of the joke, start here 3:29)
GET IT DONE WOLVES 🐺
Windhorst is lowkey funny lol
Great show....its always packed with so much basketball knowledge!
Nobody mentioning it but Marc Davis was the same ref in game 2. He’s letting these boys play, as opposed to the other staffs like Tony Brothers’ who call everything to a ridiculous extent
Didn't even notice that. They need to promote that ref and let him teach other refs to officiate in that same manner. Makes for much better and more entertaining basketball in my opinion.
Good point. There needs to be much more consistency between refs. Who's ref in game 7?
They really should have the same crew for an entire series
Jamal Murray feels like, because he won it all once, all is due to him. He's flashy at times, but rarely puts in the effort, is not careful with the ball... It's time Malone shakes him up
Thank you so much 💎
Supercuts is NOT open at 7 am. Windy living the good life.
I cant imagine watching these from beginning to end....
I appreciate the hockey call out 😂 winter sports stick together. Where i’m from they used to call behind the net Gretzky’s office very similar to Nashing
JMcD is a problem for Murray, who is now health-compromised in a series where Denver quit in three games opting to extend the series. Jokic needs to - ironically - score and dominate Q1 like Shaq for denver shooters to wakeup
Yeah mcdaniels is a problem for murray. But jokic just has to draw the double team and find the open shooter. Bad shooting games happen but I doubt the nugs will shoot 30% on mostly wide open shots at home.
@Nugschris Interesting stat I saw on TNT during halftime after the Wolves dominated the half and were up 20pts:
Denver: 4 for 21 (from 3)
Minnesota 5 for 21 (from 3)
I've been hearing a lot of that from Denver fans, that they had a bad shooting night that's why they lost. Stats show both teams were having a bad shooting night, one just plays defense at a high level and doesn't rely on always making shots.
@weights250 just statistically, the nugs don't shoot 30% for a game very often. Most of their shots were wide open especially in the 1st half. Wolves doubled jokic and dared the rest of the team to shoot, and they missed. If you can't admit that you are not worth debating. Sure, the wolves outplayed the nugs and probably would have won anyway, but that doesn't change the fact the nugs had an off shooting night. Even coach finch talked about it post game so argue with him about it. That crowd had something to do with it, I'm sure. Nugs fans get to return the favor on Sunday.
@@Nugschris Good series. Came down to the very end. Battle of two totally different styles of play.
Nuggets heavily rely on offense and making shots while the Wolves heavily rely on constant defensive pressure using a full 8-man rotation.
The Nuggets once again missed a bunch of "wide open shots" as they did all series, due to fatigue from MN hounding defense.
With that said, Joker is still the best player of the series by far, and the Nuggets will be back. He just needs some help.
Why no discussion on the Celtics!? They're the best team in the east and the only 2nd round team to close out in 5 and they don't even get a 5 minute discussion??
What's to talk about? We don't know who they're playing. They dominated two injured teams.
Ehi Windy, just bought your book!
A fan from Italy
You guys elaborate emphatically on Jamal's contribution to Denver winning yet still Jokic' wins MVP...make it make sense
17:00 Game 7 will come down to the supporting players. For the Wolves, that means it’s Jaden McDaniels, Naz Reid, and Mike Conley…and KAT avoiding stupid fouls. For the Nuggets, it’s Gordon, Braun, KCP & Jackson.
So basically, for the Wolves, what that means is anyone not named Anthony Edwards making a significant contribution 😂
Why is that dude keep interrupting Windy. It is soooo annoying.
I have probably watched 90 percent of Hornet's games over the last 3 years. Washington was a totally frustrating player. He would score 40 one night, then the next night would score 2. He had 40 points his first nba game ever. He was known for getting on massive hot streaks on 3s, but could never be consistent. Go look at the stats and see how many times he hit 4 or 5 or more threes in a game. There a lot of them. So none of this is a surprise to anyone who has watched him, but the flip side is that there are a bunch of 1 for 10s coming.
Tim MacMahon doesn't know what The Matrix is 🥴...my God where has this man been?
I feel little bad about Windhorst. Dude is killin himself... Does he sleep? Does he rest? Wish you good, man!
Game 1 is more indicative of what I'd expect in game 7
Please for the love of God DON'T let Scott Foster ref game 7
Anyone who is a bontemps hater is a bozo. Guy is funny and gives good analysis
Nah he sucks, and you probably do too
He def isn’t funny, and he def doesn’t consistently give good analysis. He’s just some random who couldn’t make his high school varsity team but thinks he’s a basketball god
he has his good days and a lot of bad days.
@@SquidysTents L comment
He said the Thunder series comes down to PJ Washington 🤣
Mavs defense winning this series. Luka & Kyrie scoring all time personal lows and winning. Not PJ. Terrible take.
Bontemps at times looks like he's about to cry proving his stats.
If refs let both teams scratch and claw game 7, I'm putting money on the Wolves. Joker's shoulders and arms about to be all clawed up 😁...but when the Wolves aren't having live ball turnovers, Denver can't really create momentum. Wolves need to keep turnovers down and stay even keel.
A hyperextended elbow SUCKS. He should have been on the bench after that but his heart convinced everyone to keep him in the game. Brutal in all ways.
Kind of want Nuggets to win so Tatum can beat an all time player in the finals but at the same time if the nuggets get eliminated it’s basically an absolute lock Tatum wins his first chip and finals mvp
We better close the OKC in Game 6. Let’s go Mavs!
DM is heading to Texas to be Wemby's #2.
No mention of Josh giddey getting benched
So interesting to say Mobley isn’t a 4 because he doesn’t fit next to Allen. What about a big that can shoot? He’s too skinny to not have a big defender next to him.
Jared Allen to Charlotte for the number 6 pick and whatever else, if anything, it takes to make it work?
Denver literally didn't even try to compete. I know when you get the "memo" from the league to ease up you're supposed to sell it lol. They simply shut down and made it look like EXACTLY what it was!! Maybe that was the Nuggets way of saying to the league without actually saying to the league...."there...now you have your game 7".
Windhorst is 1st rate!
But what about the PICKS?!! Already forgotten, noble chroniclers of the game?
I know y'all gotta eat, but the xfinity promo in the middle of the intro is painful. Please pop it at the end, "Welcome to the Hoop Collective, we talk about the NBA...Today's podcast is brought to you by xfinity.
Brunson is top 5
Jokic, Giannis, Luka, Shai, Embiid. You taking him over one of them guys, plus Curry, Tatum and Ant Edwards?
Ant making it tough on Jamal I think he’s hyping up the elbow bc if your elbow hurt like that why you taking 15 plus shots ? Make it make sense
He had to take the shots doesnt mean his elbow is ok
This is about the rest of the team. Jokic will be great but murray has to also be great, the d has to be airtight and they have to make their shots to beat this wolves team
LETS GOOO NUGGETS 🔥
Bontemps said the Thunder series comes down to PJ Washington 🤣
Mavs defense winning this series. Luka & Kyrie scoring all time personal lows and winning. Not PJ. Terrible take.
Cavs fan here, no horse in this race. My $ is on Twolves since Conley is back. Them over Celtics in 6
Joker will show up for game 7, Ant man will show up. Who’s Alfred’s will show up? Who’s supporting cast will rise up? As Celtics fan I love watching our sure finals opponents beat the dogs&$t out of each other lol
You can count out KAT to show up. Both Gobert and KAT played bad first half and took them over 20 point lead to make them comfortable to play well
Yeah I've heard some analysis saying Boston hasn't been getting tested as if that's a bad thing. Hope it's Denver, loved the reg. season matchup.
If Denver win game 7 you guys not going to complain that Murray is injured. he plays when is team beat the Lakers .stop it.
Buzz cut crew stand up🥲
The thing ab playing McConnell more is that he is going 100% all the time and when he plays heavy minutes his effectiveness goes down. I like him playing around 25-30 minutes. More than that and it is diminishing returns!
Yall really have to stop worrying about the knicks being tired....smh McBride is a great shooter especially when he STARTS. When he has the green light, he can get HOT....ALSO for the umpteenth time Nesmith was NOT some god send defender on Brunson.... Brunson was just off... LGK!!
Rare bontemps not being cringe. Props for giving props to mobley after saying he was a bad offensive player.
L comment
Wolves ain’t going to lose 4 to anyone.
Game felt like Nuggets took the foot off the pedal mid 3 quarter biding their emotion for game 7. I trust Ant but it’s hard for him to carry both Gobert and KAT if they start folding when odds are against their favor.
Since when the denver nuggets became america favorite team?, All these casual basketball (bandwagon) nuggets fans were once warriors fans. Smh.
What game are you watching where the Nuggets are America's team? If you believed the media, the Lakers have figured something out against Denver and are planning on breaking it out when they play next season
Is it called having the best player in the game...
@@QbaLibre1 o.k. buddy keep following those media narratives.
Game 7 depends how they ref it
Game 7s are always refereed pretty loosely. Meaning, they let them play.
@@JasonGood365 Loosely reffed games have been rough for Denver
@@JasonGood365Yeah, if the T-Wolves can just be physical and not worry about cheap fouls. It couldn’t ugly for the Nuggets.
Wolves 🐺 really done for
Interesting that you spent the entire time on the Cavs Celtics series talking about the Cavs and never once mentioned the Celtics. You never talk about the Celtics unless they lose. 🙄
Everyone was writing off the wolves and then a blowout?? See that game 7 ad at the beginning of the game? Yeah it’s rigged. The NBA wanted a game 7 and for betting purposes they wanted to make it seem as even as possible lol
This show needs a "mute Tim Bontemps" button
He is insufferable
Guarantee wolves lose come Sunday. No way the nuggets losing to these guys after they went 3 straight games losing in a shooting slump. Nuggets got this.
NBA playoffs have been awful this year. There are no close games other than Lakers v Nuggets series
Everybody talks tough when you’re up…..
Lock Jamal Murray in a broom closet for Game 7.
Played like an 8th grader all night.
Whole team played like absolute goofballs.
All the espn staffs want to see American player become the greatest again since the international players are taking over.
im with bontemps on the cavs corner hate
For having a title these nuggets have a lot of quit in them, if they don’t win the 1st quarter for once they are in trouble, weak mental teams can choke at home in a game 7 (cough Phoenix)
They literally came back from behind to win every game against the Lakers.
@@guru47piright 🤣
@@guru47pithey’ve also had the lakers number for years they talk hella ish about the lakers just listen to Malone talk. The wolves are different the nuggets know they are very competitive and physical. It’s mentally taxing.
@@guru47pi lakers weren’t a good team
They came back down 3-1 twice why are you making stuff up.
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bontemps,FORGET about dallas man!!hahahahahahah go care about picks!
I like each of them individually but they are boring with their own show.
What kinda boring bs??!
😂
What are you on about?
Yeah Bontemps man… 🤦♂️
10 minutes into an hour+ pod and you're concerned about being a comments star. Kudos!
@@shawnvogt888 they need to take this to their own channel. To be gifted an ESPN partnership and be this boring is wild to me
Tim Bontemps must be stopped. Someone save him from himself. It’s as if he waits for one of his cohosts to begin speaking as a cue for him to talk over them.
His voice sounds like a goose enduring something horribly painful. This makes it really hard to listen to his usually correct, logical basketball opinions.
Someone get him a vocal coach and a shock collar for every time he barks over someone speaking.