Should You Put TWO CPUs In Your PC?

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  • @morgan1168
    @morgan1168 Před 3 lety +3960

    You can put as many as you like but if your board only takes one they are just going to rattle around.

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak Před 3 lety +8344

    It's like having two wives in one house

    • @panzerofthelake4460
      @panzerofthelake4460 Před 3 lety +914

      one is cookin and the other is cleanin the godayum house

    • @PLK123
      @PLK123 Před 3 lety +450

      nah, two wives in two houses 🤦‍♂️

    • @asdbef3667
      @asdbef3667 Před 3 lety +117

      Why do you sound like indian?

    • @jalipathak3156
      @jalipathak3156 Před 3 lety +40

      (⊙_◎)Nice to meet you , again !

    • @jeffsims7386
      @jeffsims7386 Před 3 lety +220

      Yes, it sounds good in theory, but the added b*tching just isn't worth it!

  • @dgreatll
    @dgreatll Před 3 lety +1547

    It's always "Two CPUs in one Board"
    It's never "Two Boards in one CPU"

    • @yen5625
      @yen5625 Před 3 lety +182

      They always ask how is the cpu, not why is the cpu

    • @ScienceAlliance
      @ScienceAlliance Před 3 lety +22

      Yes this is so sad

    • @kouvolaartschoolfinland9332
      @kouvolaartschoolfinland9332 Před 3 lety +18

      @@yen5625 to make computers work

    • @dorg9502
      @dorg9502 Před 3 lety +59

      "Two cups, one girl" Just doesn't sound the same.

    • @TheTurnipKing
      @TheTurnipKing Před 3 lety +7

      No, we've done that before as well. That's your 60's mainframe, time-sharing style setup.

  • @Andrecio64
    @Andrecio64 Před 3 lety +478

    Next project: build 2 entire computers in a single tower case and make them work together

    • @nihonkokusai
      @nihonkokusai Před 3 lety +18

      There are quad sockets server boards look it up

    • @akabiscuitwaffle
      @akabiscuitwaffle Před 3 lety +18

      they already did that

    • @huh8b7b27
      @huh8b7b27 Před 3 lety +3

      @@akabiscuitwaffle where? Can you either send the link or title?

    • @huh8b7b27
      @huh8b7b27 Před 3 lety +2

      @@akabiscuitwaffle nvm I got it.
      but it was not, what I wanted, but oh well

    • @Unchained_Alice
      @Unchained_Alice Před 3 lety +15

      There's an online store in the UK that sells a crazy computer that is 2 PCs in one tower and costs £30,000. They can be made to work together I guess.
      Actually a good store, they just sell some crazy stuff by someone apparently famous in the overclocking scene.

  • @guillaumejoop6437
    @guillaumejoop6437 Před 3 lety +2814

    The fact that it's called a MOTHERboard makes the child fighting analogy so much better

    • @peckret3452
      @peckret3452 Před 3 lety +37

      MooooooooOoOOMMMMM!!!!!!!!!1

    • @MissesWitch
      @MissesWitch Před 3 lety +8

      I loved it!

    • @warrenpuckett4203
      @warrenpuckett4203 Před 3 lety +13

      The 1st boards were a real mother F to wire. Hence mother board. BUT they actually were called backplane boards. Linus is youngster. I bet he has only seen magnetic core RAM in museum.

    • @WarriorsPhoto
      @WarriorsPhoto Před 3 lety

      Yes it did.

    • @zxxy1
      @zxxy1 Před 3 lety +1

      @@david_4344 ßsßee

  • @TiagoMorbusSa
    @TiagoMorbusSa Před 3 lety +2412

    It WAS long ago that single-core was common.
    You're just old, Linus.
    We all are.

    • @kings2020
      @kings2020 Před 3 lety +24

      Oof is this linus i thought this is another person channel

    • @collinschofield808
      @collinschofield808 Před 3 lety +27

      Now THATS a lot of DAMAGE! SOOOOO MANY BENT PINS!!!!!

    • @dycedargselderbrother5353
      @dycedargselderbrother5353 Před 3 lety +38

      When was the last time it was realistic to see a single core CPU, outside of a phone at least? A 65 nm Sempron from 2009-10? Even that is stretching it. I mean the parts existed but I'm pretty sure I've never seen a Sempron past the Athlon XP era, maybe early on in the Athlon64 era, before the Core 2. On the Intel side I think the Core 2 Solo and Conroe-L Celerons from 2007 were their last single core parts, and I think both of these were basically netbook exclusives.

    • @brytonduropan6741
      @brytonduropan6741 Před 3 lety +2

      rad

    • @TiagoMorbusSa
      @TiagoMorbusSa Před 3 lety +11

      @@dycedargselderbrother5353 I'd say that since the introduction of Intel's Core architecture, it's not common to see single-core CPUs in computers. Give it a bit of leeway and I'd say 2006/2007 is the time where they stopped being common?

  • @bambinone
    @bambinone Před 3 lety +47

    Ahh, this takes me back to the Abit BP6 dual Celeron system I had in college. My flatmates and I used it as a server for file sharing, Quake/TF game servers, etc. Good times!

    • @buybuydandavis
      @buybuydandavis Před 2 lety

      What a computing stud I was with my Abit BP6 dual CPU Linux box. Overclocked!
      Big Iron!

    • @marisakirisame867
      @marisakirisame867 Před rokem

      Me having a Intel dual core 2 duo CPU and they have been used for Minecraft server and they still running today since 2015

  • @ja3033
    @ja3033 Před 3 lety +30

    Linus: I'm glad that you asked..
    No linus, at this point you pop up every time i scroll down youtube and grace me knowledge I don't even know i need.

  • @baggarwal
    @baggarwal Před 3 lety +1432

    Instructions unclear, thermalpasted 2 CPUs together

    • @peril8175
      @peril8175 Před 3 lety +86

      your supposed to put one half of a cpu into half the socket and the other half in the other half of the socket

    • @unity__3829
      @unity__3829 Před 3 lety +47

      @@peril8175 then you put the other halves onto the fans, for extra cooling

    • @peril8175
      @peril8175 Před 3 lety +19

      @@unity__3829 how could i forget about such an important step

    • @_CinnamonKitty
      @_CinnamonKitty Před 3 lety +8

      Mmmm s'mores

    • @unity__3829
      @unity__3829 Před 3 lety

      @@_CinnamonKitty ok good on

  • @yoyofargo
    @yoyofargo Před 3 lety +1173

    "it wasn't that long ago that just single core cpus were the norm"
    Buddy that was over a decade and a half ago.

    • @bakhvainasaridze32
      @bakhvainasaridze32 Před 3 lety +67

      Uummm.... Is.... Is it a long time? :|

    • @ronaldmullins8221
      @ronaldmullins8221 Před 3 lety +209

      @@bakhvainasaridze32 In the world of computing it's centuries at best. There has to be some "dog years" translation for computers

    • @AliS860319
      @AliS860319 Před 3 lety +63

      its bout 45 years in 'computer years'

    • @MissesWitch
      @MissesWitch Před 3 lety +23

      Still doesn't feel like long ago

    • @huh8b7b27
      @huh8b7b27 Před 3 lety +12

      Me sitting with dual core pentium

  • @FaTeWRLD
    @FaTeWRLD Před 3 lety +437

    Hey, you should collab with Linus Tech Tips!

  • @billraty14
    @billraty14 Před 3 lety +34

  • @gaeroot
    @gaeroot Před 3 lety +484

    2040: Do you need a CPU in your PC?

    • @kapilsds7
      @kapilsds7 Před 3 lety +16

      2040: 30cm*30cm processor.

    • @joshuanorman2
      @joshuanorman2 Před 3 lety +24

      Nvidia's new 4000 series just takes the position of your cpu

    • @williamhansen9456
      @williamhansen9456 Před 3 lety +8

      Does a CPU trace rays?

    • @joshuanorman2
      @joshuanorman2 Před 3 lety +13

      @@williamhansen9456 There's nothing stopping it from doing it

    • @grafando
      @grafando Před 3 lety +6

      Imagine motherboards with integrated CPUs and GPUs..

  • @mini-_
    @mini-_ Před 3 lety +176

    This feels like a "Two cooks running the kitchen" scenario.

    • @dylan__dog
      @dylan__dog Před 3 lety +23

      Two dads, one grill

    • @tylerdurden3722
      @tylerdurden3722 Před 3 lety +3

      Like a 3-some🤔? Not the way you pictured it in your head?

    • @cris4529
      @cris4529 Před 3 lety +1

      Generally in a respect 5 star restaurants there's always more than one.

    • @TheLucasEmerick
      @TheLucasEmerick Před 3 lety +1

      ​@@cris4529
      I believe this was a reference to the saying:
      "too many cooks spoil the broth"

    • @gonzalomorenocl
      @gonzalomorenocl Před 3 lety +1

      I just read cocks. I pictured them running in the kitchen. Then I pictured the birds, also running in the kitchen

  • @Prophetli
    @Prophetli Před 3 lety +44

    Back in 2001 I've bought a dual CPU system (MSI 694D Pro Dual Socket-370 Apollo Pro133A ATX, 2* Pentium III 800MHz), which was an absolute beast at the time. I was running Multiple Game Servers at a LAN-Event, listening to Winamp while gaming Counter Strike at perfect framerates. PC just didn't want to slow down a bit.

    • @zyme5998
      @zyme5998 Před rokem +3

      Wow, How did I possibly not know about this motherboard, back then I used MSI almost exclusively *Except* for my ABit BP6 (Dual 370 system using 500mhz Celerons) and slightly later an ABit VP6 using two 1ghz Pentium III's. The speed was insane, as long as you used Windows 2000 as 98/ME [BSD also, but not Linux] didn't support SMP. I'm pretty positive most the speed gain was from most software only capable of using one CPU at a time, occasional software lockups that would become transparent, and similarly not having to distribute the cpu's resources across twice as many processes/threads/whatever. The machines truly seemed 10x or faster in many cases.

  • @varixis4413
    @varixis4413 Před 3 lety +67

    POV: trying to talk to the salesperson at the computer section 0:00

  • @AspectStudio
    @AspectStudio Před 3 lety +346

    I always cram two CPU's in my motherboard whether it likes it or not... Sometimes more.

    • @muddtheboss415
      @muddtheboss415 Před 3 lety +37

      Yeah and if you need more ram just dowload it. Ofc download the rgb versions, because we all know that more rgb means more performance

    • @khalilrahme5227
      @khalilrahme5227 Před 3 lety +16

      @@muddtheboss415 don't forget to download a mouse

    • @urielc918
      @urielc918 Před 3 lety +1

      don't forget to install monitor.exe

    • @khalilrahme5227
      @khalilrahme5227 Před 3 lety +5

      don't forget to delete system32, it stops your rgb from giving your ram more fps

    • @necrobynerton7384
      @necrobynerton7384 Před 3 lety +1

      Also download a soundcard so you can enjoy 3d sound on your games
      Ofcourse dont forget the rgb version with speakers

  • @iliasiosifidis4532
    @iliasiosifidis4532 Před 3 lety +207

    "Can't make your neighbors more upset than they already are "
    :D
    Just loved it

    • @mrniceguy4277
      @mrniceguy4277 Před 3 lety

      Those beats were sick! What song was that?

    • @Nomenius1
      @Nomenius1 Před 3 lety

      Sounds like a challenge to me.

  • @jewlouds
    @jewlouds Před rokem +15

    The main benefit of two CPUs is the increased RAM that you can install, as well as potentially more PCIe lanes depending on the chipset.

  • @shadowslayer7600
    @shadowslayer7600 Před 3 lety +47

    What would be cool with 2 CPUs is to be able to choose what CPU a program uses I.e run a game that can't use many cores on your better low core CPU and have a high core count CPU for work that can use lots of cores

    • @guesswho2778
      @guesswho2778 Před rokem +9

      thats basically what intel ended up doing with their p core e core cpus, except on a single cpu die.

    • @Zack_Wester
      @Zack_Wester Před rokem +2

      I think that was one of the few benefits gamer actually had.
      Run the OS and most stuff on the multi core CPU that clocked 2 to 3 GHz (CPU slot 1).
      and on CPU slot 2 Run a singel core 4+GHz CPU for games that could only use one core example Dwarf fortress.

  • @drabberfrog
    @drabberfrog Před 3 lety +230

    Just duct tape the second CPU to the one you're actually using and use it as a heat sink.

    • @san709
      @san709 Před 3 lety +21

      sometimes my genius is... it's almost frightening

    • @suntzu1409
      @suntzu1409 Před 3 lety +3

      *thermal PASTE

    • @drabberfrog
      @drabberfrog Před 3 lety +3

      @@suntzu1409 yes, attach the heat sink CPU to the other CPU with thermal paste.

  • @funtechu
    @funtechu Před 3 lety +262

    "Why do multiple CPUs not scale well?"
    *Dragostea Din Tei plays in the background*

    • @kenzieduckmoo
      @kenzieduckmoo Před 3 lety +2

      I understood that reference! [surprised cap in the background]

    • @fastestmane7324
      @fastestmane7324 Před 3 lety +2

      I don't understand. Can you please explain it

    • @funtechu
      @funtechu Před 3 lety +43

      @@fastestmane7324 Here's the song: czcams.com/video/YnopHCL1Jk8/video.html
      It's also called the "numa numa song" because of the chorus.
      NUMA in computing stands for Non-Uniform Memory Access. Due to the nature of multiple CPU architectures, typically each CPU has its own memory bank, and there is a substantially latency hit when accessing memory locations that are physially located on the other CPU's memory bank (typically accessed via some bus or crossbar).

    • @kcnq2245
      @kcnq2245 Před 3 lety +26

      I think that might be the most obscure reference I have ever seen

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq Před 3 lety +2

      Many arcadeboards used dual cpus and that scaled really well on Segas arcade for example (no pun intended since they were the masters of 2d scaling sprites). sega genesis used 2 cpus, where one of the cpus was in charge of the music.. the ps2 used a ps1 cpu also for handling io and backwards compability.. list goes on. if you dont make software to take advantage of extra cpus, you will not see great benefit.

  • @xxxenricop
    @xxxenricop Před 3 lety +4

    ❤️🔥
    Excellently written script this one. Thanks to the team writer as well as Linus for the delivery!

  • @ordinosaurs
    @ordinosaurs Před 3 lety +4

    Back in the early 2k, I was rocking a dual Super sparc Sun workstation, and while the speed of each core was ridiculous, CPU cache and SMP combined with a much faster I/O bus made for a wonderfully smooth obsolyte machine to work on.

  • @iCharls
    @iCharls Před 3 lety +137

    Nobody:
    Linus: I am glad you asked..

    • @GWindows3.1
      @GWindows3.1 Před 3 lety +1

      Well you did click on the video

  • @Crux161
    @Crux161 Před 3 lety +32

    I remember in the days of single core cpus - a dual cpu system was my dream. SMP 🤤

  • @tezinho81
    @tezinho81 Před rokem +2

    My first dual processor machine was a pentium pro, this goes wayyyyyyy back as the man says. One of the main advantages of multi cpu systems in older servers is that each cpu has it's own memory management, so more CPUs = more memory. Some particularly big, expensive and fully optioned servers had insane amounts of memory.

  • @kriskraken9747
    @kriskraken9747 Před 3 lety +6

    This could help in laptops, a 5-10W CPU for normal processes and a high power CPU + dGPU for heavy processes. It'll help conserve power during normal usage while ensuring power when needed

  • @getyerspn
    @getyerspn Před 3 lety +80

    I have fond memories of my dual celeron pc back in the late 90's at HP research labs...Used to run Windows NT to make use of the dual CPUs ....AHH the good 'slow' old days.

    • @piked86
      @piked86 Před 3 lety +6

      The slow days that somehow were faster. Modern software is bloat.

    • @AndrewTSq
      @AndrewTSq Před 3 lety +1

      i used dual pentium pros back in the day with Windows NT. that was a great computer. could even game on it lol :)

  • @GeorgePerakis
    @GeorgePerakis Před 3 lety +320

    Simple answer: The Windows scheduler can only barely handle existing single socket Threadripper platforms as it is.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 Před 3 lety +35

      Not a good answer... there are other operating systems out there that have run on multiple CPUs for decades. Windows ran fine on multi CPU machines, but only if software was written well enough to take advantage.

    • @setcheck67
      @setcheck67 Před 3 lety +20

      The real simple answer is that programs often share memory space and memory can only be written to by one core/CPU at a time. This is why hyperthreading programs is *really* hard as the split process *cannot* write to memory used by the main loop of the program. So generally hyperthreading is programmed as single purpose tasks that perform one thing and then nothing else.

    • @rez-theruneman
      @rez-theruneman Před 3 lety +10

      And having two Threadripper sockets would require a MASSIVE motherboard, not just to fit the sockets, but also to take full advantage of the PCI-E lanes.

    • @FMHikari
      @FMHikari Před 3 lety +7

      @@rez-theruneman It's time to have PCIE x32 speed slots because why not as well

    • @rez-theruneman
      @rez-theruneman Před 3 lety +6

      @@FMHikari The day that becomes a thing will be exciting.

  • @_M_O_E_
    @_M_O_E_ Před 2 lety +4

    i've been running a dual cpu setup for a few years now (asus z8na-d6, dual xeon x5675) and it handles anything i throw at it. i was aware that it wouldnt double my performance, but the whole point of the build was to play new games at a price comparable to a new games console.

  • @Skystrike70
    @Skystrike70 Před 3 lety +22

    I was literally wondering about this yesterday when I was googling how supercomputers work. They have tons of individual cpu's so why not us?

    • @buffuniballer
      @buffuniballer Před 3 lety +3

      The diminishing returns is a much greater problem for Windows compared to other O/S such as Solaris.
      Sun had SPARC processors with 128 threads per CPU in the late 00's
      en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UltraSPARC_T1
      Today, the M8 has 256 threads per cpu and the T8-4 system has 4 SPARC M8 processors for 1024 threads.
      Solaris scaled far better than Windows when it came to multiple threads.
      Floating point performance wasn't as good. But moving large amounts of data, processing big datasets etc was short work for SPARC based machines.
      Today, Sun/Oracle do the same work with connected servers running XEON processors. Provides some cost savings as well as multiple systems running so the loss of any one system has a far smaller impact compared to one large instance going down.
      1U servers running Oracle Enterprise Linux with 1.5TB of RAM to do database "stuff."

    • @awuma
      @awuma Před rokem

      They have special very high capacity inter-processor communication channels.

  • @derrickwilliams2903
    @derrickwilliams2903 Před 3 lety +73

    You forgot about the Abit BP6, paired with two Celeron 366's overclocked to 550+? One of the best cost-to-performance deals in history.

    • @thejugrknot
      @thejugrknot Před 3 lety +5

      Or it's younger brother the Abit VP6 hothardware.com/reviews/abits-vp6-via-apollo-pro-133a-dualcpu-motherboard

    • @wince333
      @wince333 Před 3 lety +1

      dfarq.homeip.net/abit-bp6-in-memoriam/

    • @paulgray1318
      @paulgray1318 Před 3 lety +3

      I owned 2, was amazing as couldn't get a single cpu to do 1ghz back then. Alas they came out around the bad cap time, so the period of dead caps plagued.

    • @Adam12176
      @Adam12176 Před 3 lety +6

      Yes! I don't know how you could talk about dual socket platforms and NOT mention Abit's BP6.

    • @uploads416
      @uploads416 Před 3 lety +2

      Still have mine! Remember playing CS beta 6.5 while simultaneously unpacking some files with winrar, and playing music with winamp. Good times =) Had it as my main rig until the fall of 2008

  • @interlace84
    @interlace84 Před 3 lety +8

    ahhh this brings me back to a dual celeron build crushing every Quake 3-built system wayyy back in 2000 :))

  • @KangoV
    @KangoV Před 3 lety +1

    I do remember rocking an 8 cpu Opteron machine under my desk. That thing was super fast for its time. It had 8 dimm slots per CPU.... insane.

  • @nevs333
    @nevs333 Před 3 lety +1

    Don't ya love the 1 at the end of the 16 cores line at the start in green.

  • @bryce2113
    @bryce2113 Před 3 lety +187

    Two CPUs in one PC?
    Linus: "These enthusiasts still remain a tiny minority of users"
    Me : Happily in the "tiny minority of users" running dual Xeon e5-2697 v2 (24 core 48 thread) in my Unraid server that I got on the cheap.

    • @Iam_Dunn
      @Iam_Dunn Před 3 lety +2

      Darth Plaguerism .... nice! :)

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    • @circletech7745
      @circletech7745 Před 3 lety

      Or my Lenovo Thinkstation D30 I still daily drive.

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      @Quicksilver-7791 Před 3 lety +11

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  • @shmuelie
    @shmuelie Před 3 lety +88

    I've thought about getting a dual socket board to make my own "bigLITTLE" style architecture. One socket with as many cores as possible and the other with as high a clock speed as possible

    • @VitalVampyr
      @VitalVampyr Před 3 lety +51

      Dual socket motherboards generally don't support having different CPU models installed.

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong Před 3 lety +4

      Sounds like what Intel is trying to do with their next generation hybrid mobile chips

    • @jeffsims7386
      @jeffsims7386 Před 3 lety +19

      Unless you're extremely well versed in programming x86 and can modify not only the OS but the BIOS to make it functional, that won't work. They all require matched CPUs.

    • @dxalrado
      @dxalrado Před 3 lety +5

      @referral madness It wouldn't bottleneck, but as the other guy said, if he could modify the OS and BIOS, it would perfectly

    • @siminc7905
      @siminc7905 Před 3 lety +13

      a computer with a CPU and GPU pretty much is a large scale bigLITTLE

  • @sparkplug1018
    @sparkplug1018 Před 3 lety +1

    I built a system around the Asus L1N64-SLI board when that came out, having 4 CPU cores was just amazing to brag about, not that much I did ever made use of them that is.
    That board is framed on my wall now, along with a few of the more interesting boards I've had over the years.

  • @ruelburaga6902
    @ruelburaga6902 Před rokem

    yeah these videos are stacked right, honestly reviewed by the team are Great.

  • @lukas_ls
    @lukas_ls Před 3 lety +29

    There is a benefit in having dedicated sockets for your CPUs:
    Especially Threadripper suffers from its design. They put 8 dies on one package that then has to share all its memory bandwidth. In a multiple socket build each CPU gets their own dedicated memory and bandwidth. In a threadripper 3990X 16 cores share one memory channel. If you had two 32 core systems or 4 16 core systems with 4 channels each you could get way more performance in tasks that don't require shared memory like virtualisation.

    • @NextMerckx
      @NextMerckx Před 3 lety +2

      And this goes back to at least Westmere. Back in the day, one of the awesome things that the Dell Precision T5500 had in it was the second CPU riser functionally made the system parallel triple channel memory, so you could get some absolutely absurd memory bandwidth for the time (like ~60GB/s theoretical or something) to pair with the then-ludicrously-powerful X5680 and X5690.

    • @DozIT
      @DozIT Před 3 lety +1

      @@NextMerckx Yep, lol I still like to think the X5690 is ludicrously powerful even at $200 for a pair. My Mac Pro 5,1 and R610 Server does more than keep up.. even a decade later!

    • @StCreed
      @StCreed Před 3 lety +3

      This is why a database server we bought around 2015 was equipped with two 12/24 Xeons. For database servers, memory bandwidth is a real bottleneck (we saturated two fiber channel links when running queries to give an idea of the amount of data we were sorting, and we had nearly 1TB in memory)

    • @lazm3518
      @lazm3518 Před rokem +1

      This is why solutions like AMD's 3D-Cache will become more and more a "need" outside of gaming, like in Database Servers.

  • @samizo5842
    @samizo5842 Před 3 lety +19

    00:00 for a moment there I thought he was going to say 8 trigrams 64 palms 😂

  • @psychosis7325
    @psychosis7325 Před 3 lety

    Lol love the DD car analogy, we used to dominate the local SPL competitions using a single DD 12" pushing the all into it.

  • @rvborgh
    @rvborgh Před rokem

    i've been running a Quad Opteron for my home PC since 2014. Just upgraded processors, ram, and GPU on it the past week :)

  • @techmad8204
    @techmad8204 Před 3 lety +7

    4:49 dang it I thought the answer was “ *D* ”

  • @colinweingarten3273
    @colinweingarten3273 Před 3 lety +11

    I had a moment of pure nostalgia when he mentioned the AMD Quad FX. I opted into the system in a weird sense of future proofing myself into a future 8 core system. The first FX-70 CPUs were supposed to be placeholders for the eventual Phenom-style chips with 4 cores each for one of the earliest 8 core setups available...but the FX line was cancelled and I was left with an existing system with a dead end architecture, and a cooling fan setup that reminded me of a passenger jet spooling up on the runway to take off. I think I learned a lesson from that...trying for bleeding edge runs the risk of getting cut, in more then one sense of the term.

    • @Bamfhammer
      @Bamfhammer Před 3 lety +1

      I am there with 1st gen thredripper right now.

    • @scurvofpcp
      @scurvofpcp Před 3 lety

      @@Bamfhammer Same

  • @SaiAbitathaDUCIC
    @SaiAbitathaDUCIC Před 3 lety +4

    An important fact from my side :
    Computers with 1 CPU perform multiprogramming, that means, only one program can run on the processor at any instant.
    Computers with multiple CPUs perform both multiprogramming and multiprocessing (multiprocessing means multiple programs run simultaneously at any instant, on the different processors).

  • @Zeta368peep
    @Zeta368peep Před 3 lety +5

    It would be interesting to see if older dual CPU efforts could possibly be affordable and practical or just in general perform well for todays standards.
    Maybe thats an LTT video.

  • @jspafford
    @jspafford Před 3 lety +5

    I like having two bros in my room ready to get to work pumping out the cores.

  • @BrandonDoran00
    @BrandonDoran00 Před 3 lety +35

    4:48 I'm going to have to vote for Turnip...
    I still have my shirt and wear it regularly, people often confuse it for a Trump shirt.

    • @graceperez9672
      @graceperez9672 Před 3 lety

      ?

    • @BrandonDoran00
      @BrandonDoran00 Před 3 lety

      @@graceperez9672 ??

    • @antlocwe
      @antlocwe Před 2 lety

      ?

    • @sturm1379
      @sturm1379 Před 2 lety

      Turnip is "nabo" in spanish, which also can mean "idiot" where i live.
      "Sos un nabo" it's the same that saying "You are a fool"

  • @travis1240
    @travis1240 Před 3 lety +1

    Had a dual celeron 300a overclocked to 450mhz. Ran like a dream and wasn't too expensive because the celeron was a consumer grade chip that wasn't supposed to be used in SMP mode.

  • @ChuckNorrisGaming
    @ChuckNorrisGaming Před 3 lety

    I’m the guy that was in charge of building all those dual CPU Certified Data PC’s way back when. We were even filmed and on the news for doing it. I have the clip on VHS here somewhere... Thanks for the memories! Cheers.

  • @FROSTGAMINGUTUU1233
    @FROSTGAMINGUTUU1233 Před 3 lety +189

    Everyone first until they refresh😂😂😂

  • @danwhite3224
    @danwhite3224 Před 3 lety +5

    I used to have a dual socket LGA1366 motherboard with two Xeon X5675s. Actually worked really well for years and didn't cost much at all.

    • @natevelar
      @natevelar Před 2 lety

      but..the point of the video seems to be that there is no added benefit with a possible latency issue to deal with.

    • @danwhite3224
      @danwhite3224 Před 2 lety +1

      @@natevelar that may be true for some scenarios like gaming and basic use like word processing, but it's ignorant to say that it's useless to have multiple CPUs. For situations like CAD, rendering or scientific workloads (which is also something people do) then the extra cores speed those up massively. Why do you think servers and workstations typically have multiple CPUs? If it didn't have any benefits, why would motherboard manufacturers even bother?

    • @natevelar
      @natevelar Před 2 lety

      @@danwhite3224 I'm currently using an older Z400 hp server with a dedicated GPU...looking at a G4 HP server with a high scoring Xeon with two cpus. I buy them for the dependablitiy and stability...and am always unsure what advantages I will have when I move to two cpus.

  • @coolsans5097
    @coolsans5097 Před 3 lety

    You asking the right question at the right time. Since my pc plays cpu intensive games i was thinking of doing that

  • @KirbyZhang
    @KirbyZhang Před 3 lety

    I had the pleasure of a Dell dual Xeon workstation bought in 2004. No one else coded multithreaded like I was doing, because I had my machine to run the game loop at 240fps.

  • @OhHiiMarc
    @OhHiiMarc Před 3 lety +9

    $$$ aside, "Skulltrail" sounds like the most epic, metal line of CPUs ever tbh

    • @mwbgaming28
      @mwbgaming28 Před 3 lety

      Just wait until they invent bloodlake

  • @geometrikselfelsefesi
    @geometrikselfelsefesi Před 3 lety +67

    Also linus: 32 CPUs ON A PC HOLY $H!T!! | Season 2 Episode 7

    • @kings2020
      @kings2020 Před 3 lety

      Lol

    • @onGlobalproductions
      @onGlobalproductions Před 3 lety

      Ive got a 8 socket workstation, it draws 3200 Watts

    • @joefish6091
      @joefish6091 Před 3 lety

      @@onGlobalproductions so cooling is critical and very redundant :)
      I have dual E5-2690 mobo that runs at a mere 400 Watts full bore,

    • @williammolnar6570
      @williammolnar6570 Před 3 lety

      Imagine 64 Amd Threadripper 3990x on a motherboard

  • @TheRealMartin
    @TheRealMartin Před rokem +1

    Used to have a Dual Pentium 200 and a Dual Pentium III-450. (The motherboards and processors still exist somewhere at my dad's place.) Those were the days. Used to run Windows NT and Linux and FreeBSD with SMP.

  • @Macintrasher
    @Macintrasher Před 3 lety +1

    Ah, the memories of my first build ever, a dual Pentium III 1 Ghz system on an Abit VP6 motherboard... Such a rugged system, so much raw power, and I was able to make use of it then when I was doing graphic design work with Adobe or when playing Quake 3 instagib (/com_maxfps 0, /smp 1). Hell, I could play the game on one CPU and run a dedicated server on the other, and I DID one day just for fun! One huge advantage I remember was that my PC never slowed down when running tons of programs, which was especially helpful then with the sea of spyware start-up apps that would bring pedestrian systems to their knees. Windows 2000/XP Pro were so good at managing workloads between the CPUs that anything less than SETI@home would barely be a hiccup, and buffer under-run when burning CDs became a thing of the past. Though in contrast to the video I don't remember it being that expensive at all. There was the second CPU, of course, but that was only another ~$210, the mobo was only a little more expensive than other boards, I didn't try to max out the RAM, I had the usual 2 HHD, CD burner, a GeForce2 GTS/Pro I got for dirt cheap on ebay, it was perfectly reasonable and serviceable until it was replaced by a Pentium 4C. Maybe there were more boards then that used registered/ECC RAM and had SCSI controllers natively, cuz the VP6 was just a regular board with 2 CPU sockets and I don't think I paid anymore than $125 at most. Tho the mobo was a victim of the capacitor plague, it was still just within warranty by 2 months, got it all fixed up and it was retired to the role of LAN party server for whatever we wanted, usually counter-strike, UT2K4, Quake 3, etc.
    A friend of mine still has it. Maybe I'll dust it off and see if it still works. No idea what I could possibly use it for, even 2 Pentium IIIs at 1 Ghz apiece will barely run anything modern.

  • @MK-of7qw
    @MK-of7qw Před 3 lety +3

    I had a dual Pentium 2 400 back in the late 90s' the board.

  • @Xpl0jd1
    @Xpl0jd1 Před 3 lety +15

    I had 2x AMD MP 1600+ and 5 scsi drives in raid, i remember being the king at the LAN parties :D

    • @Alfamoto8
      @Alfamoto8 Před 3 lety

      Oh the nostalgia... I thing we also soldering some pins on XPs to make them work as MPs... where the first were much much cheaper...

    • @madeiraislander
      @madeiraislander Před 3 lety

      it is good to be the king.

  • @terryeffinp
    @terryeffinp Před 3 lety +1

    I remember in high school thinking that the Skulltrail platform was the coolest thing ever, and wishing I could build one.

  • @kennethvanpeteghem8123

    I actually had a zipper that failed and was planning to replace it, but now I subscribed it seems to be fine again! I don’t know how you do it. Maybe you can explain that in a future video.

  • @NeonVisual
    @NeonVisual Před 3 lety +37

    I want a 512 core CPU please, and it should be the size of a deck of playing cards.

    • @NeonVisual
      @NeonVisual Před 3 lety +2

      @Ishtiaque Walid rendering

    • @scheimong
      @scheimong Před 3 lety +6

      ... and the temperature of a thermite fire?

    • @darthidiot7563
      @darthidiot7563 Před 3 lety

      @@scheimong for me, yes

    • @chandanshakya
      @chandanshakya Před 3 lety +1

      Yah i have to play candy crush.

    • @dylan__dog
      @dylan__dog Před 3 lety +5

      @@scheimong it doubles as a home heating system

  • @subpoena.
    @subpoena. Před 3 lety +50

    "For less and less money"
    5000 Series:Let us introduce ourselves

    • @sylv512
      @sylv512 Před 3 lety

      intel user I smell?

    • @sylv512
      @sylv512 Před 3 lety

      there should be an open ISA that doesn’t require cooling unless overclocked. too bad arm did that already except it’s a closed ISA

    • @subpoena.
      @subpoena. Před 3 lety +2

      @@sylv512 Nah, I actually bought the 5600x Dude

  • @CRAZYHORSE19682003
    @CRAZYHORSE19682003 Před 3 lety

    I had a duel CPU AMD system in 2004. I remember the motherboard was from a company called Tyan. It felt snappier than any computer I had used up until that point.

  • @neuroticplays
    @neuroticplays Před 3 lety +1

    Even with diminished returns I still would love to see Flight Simulator 2020 run on a dual cpu board with maxed settings as a video on here

  • @hiattech
    @hiattech Před 3 lety +35

    Whew, I'm saved! or rather my zippers are!

  • @beepbeepimasheep237beepbee3

    Short Answer: As long as it has the same instruction sets.

  • @okaro6595
    @okaro6595 Před rokem

    While individual software did not support dual CPU it helped in the overall smoothness of the system that ran several processes. There were some licensing issues. XP Home was not licensed for two CPUs. XP Pro was.

  • @DelticEngine
    @DelticEngine Před 3 lety

    Had a dual AMD Opteron 6000 series system for over 10 years now. I like the upgrade path as previously (extremely) costly processors become affordable. Currently running dual 6380 with 64GB and Vega 64. I use it for gaming and video editing and everything else.
    When gaming I run the game server on one processor and the client (my actual game) on the other and there are no latency or lag issues like I found when trying to do the same on a regular gaming system.
    Allocating resources with custom startup files enables me to run several programs at once (such as capture and render at the same time) without them interfering with each other in terms of resources or timing.
    I've been looking at the latest gaming and systems such as threadripper and Ryzen but I think I'll be looking at building another dual processor system but based on the Epyc CPUs.

  • @thacrypt223
    @thacrypt223 Před 3 lety +55

    I literally asked myself this question yesterday, and today Google put this on my feed. Weeeiiird AF. But highly welcomed.

  • @slysheogorath3122
    @slysheogorath3122 Před 3 lety +29

    I just downloaded more cpu and ram from the internet! Silly people, I got it for free 😎

    • @ashishdeharia9137
      @ashishdeharia9137 Před 3 lety +3

      Don't forget to download PCI EXPRESS 4.0.
      And seed more so others can enjoy too.

    • @kings2020
      @kings2020 Před 3 lety

      Ik its scam but. Good Joke

    • @ashishdeharia9137
      @ashishdeharia9137 Před 3 lety

      @@Super-zk1kq the best thing, bots are not a problem there.

    • @mythtech
      @mythtech Před 3 lety

      Yes u got viruses for free ik v well

  • @albertkijkt
    @albertkijkt Před rokem

    I had a dual Pentium 166 back in the day. It wasn't just that there wasn't much in multithreaded programs. You needed at least Windows NT or Linux to even be able to use the second cpu. In W95 or W98 the second CPU was unavailable... Also in those days the CPUs had to be the same and preferably from the same batch or it would be unstable. But it did allow you to encode a CD to MP3 and still have usable system. Which mattered since encoding an entire CD to mp3 took hours that you could otherwise not use your system for something else ;-)

  • @whiteeagleforce2.040
    @whiteeagleforce2.040 Před 2 měsíci

    If you looking for short answer. Data center technician here. All of our servers have dual cpus. They are not there to combine power, but for two purposes: 1. If one fails the other kicks in 2. Each one has a purpose different from the other one ie two customers could use same host.

  • @DylanDavidVindasLopez
    @DylanDavidVindasLopez Před 3 lety +6

    3:20 the sound of a samsumg phone got caugth by the mic xD

  • @clickbait7396
    @clickbait7396 Před 3 lety +10

    If I've learned anything from your vids is Overkill is the only way to survive.

  • @isstuff
    @isstuff Před 3 lety

    I had a dual celeron, the cheaper chip x 2 was not too bad for price and I was doing 3D animation so my processing needs were enough to use both cpus.

  • @EyeOfMaat
    @EyeOfMaat Před 3 lety

    I had to look after a website on server at work that was dual socket, single core CPU. Also 6 sticks of 512mb ram (400mhz i believe). I gave it to the other support team 2 weeks ago. Its still running

  • @yesiam6758
    @yesiam6758 Před 3 lety +7

    Exactly what I wanted to know, strange that the CZcams algorithm is helping!

  • @petervansan1054
    @petervansan1054 Před 3 lety +5

    "Probably". Try running anything in virtual... then two cpus are a godsend

  • @puspamadak
    @puspamadak Před 3 lety +1

    The analogies you provided are really funny 😂

  • @wheelieblind
    @wheelieblind Před 3 lety

    Back in the day we were visiting my dad's friend and in his garage he had plenty of computer parts and so we just made a computer except 2 CPU's which kept the cost down and also we were playing with 386 parts not 486 as this was the older stuff in their garage that they had plenty of which was not so outdated at the time, and then later more of these things popped up and people were eventually trying to make 586 PC's. The problem now, which this video talks about is the software not taking advantage of the hardware. An other thing I did back when I was younger was look into solid state drive technology, that had been around sense the 1980's. An other funny thing is having a circuit board full of RAM and using it like a temporary drive which as you probably know is going to loose all the data if that computer gets turned off, and so you still wanted to work with a hard drive and then move some data over to the circuit board full of RAM. Solid state drive technology from way back when what I played with, which you might as well think of as a USB flash drive with less storage space, but this was before USB was available but really the technology was different.

  • @AntonFetzer
    @AntonFetzer Před 3 lety +12

    0:42 Damn I absolutely want to see a review of that motherboard!

    • @joefish6091
      @joefish6091 Před 3 lety +1

      DX was effectually two SX CPUs in one package, thats why the DX ones rocked at the time. 1.5 clock cycles per instruction cycle due to pipelines. along came the Pentium One and 1.5 instructions per clock cycle. the DX4-120 from Cyrix was just faster than the Pentium 75s. P90s and up left the DX 486 world behind. the modern era of 21st century computing had begun.

    • @Tyrant_Roach
      @Tyrant_Roach Před 3 lety

      Also I don't know why people are dying for an Intel i9 my $5 pc has a Intel i386.

  • @creeperdrop2099
    @creeperdrop2099 Před 3 lety +7

    CUDA explained, please! :)

  • @lmoore3rd
    @lmoore3rd Před rokem

    I ran a dual Pentium 3 733 for a few years in the early 2000's. Rocked Windows NT, 2000, and XP. Not for playing games, for game development when we had to process art assets ahead of time when making local builds. Ran multi cpu after than until eventually we got multi core machines standard off the shelf.

  • @krazyhartin
    @krazyhartin Před 3 lety

    I'm a long time subscriber, I can confirm all my zips still work.

  • @juanmj93
    @juanmj93 Před 3 lety +17

    Me watching this in my trusty old dual 6 core 2010 Mac Pro

    • @blakemalley9053
      @blakemalley9053 Před 3 lety +1

      Nice! I literally just watched this on my 2010 hp z600 with dual xeon x5650

    • @blakemalley9053
      @blakemalley9053 Před 3 lety

      @Big Fat Boi maybe in time. might be selling this current rig soon to help get a xbox series x

    • @OnionYeeter
      @OnionYeeter Před 3 lety

      6 core????????????????????????????

    • @juanmj93
      @juanmj93 Před 3 lety

      @@OnionYeeter Yups, Intel Xeon

    • @juanmj93
      @juanmj93 Před 3 lety

      @@blakemalley9053 Cool, I have dual x5675's, I even game on it

  • @skyled863
    @skyled863 Před 3 lety +4

    it's like youtube having the second ad; whilst linus segway-ing his ads.
    -this comment is made possible by glassware

  • @ionbusman2086
    @ionbusman2086 Před 3 lety

    Our Macpro 1.1 from 2005? Is still kicking ass. Has dual quad Xeon’s

  • @CannibalSodom
    @CannibalSodom Před 3 lety +2

    Imagine having two 64 core threadrippers and dual RTX 3090s running microsoft flight simulator at 8k ultra settings with both the Threadripper and the 3090s overclocked as far as they can go. I wonder how much power that would use.

  • @Infarlock
    @Infarlock Před 3 lety +3

    4:40 MOM MOM MOOOOOM
    *motherboard explodes*

  • @canchume
    @canchume Před 3 lety +6

    Well I'm still running my dual xeon 2006 mac pro so yeah

  • @15458434
    @15458434 Před 3 lety

    I used to have a Dual Pentium 133 MHz with 64Mb memory running on a HX chipset. The best part was being able to have the ability to launch a game on specific one CPU, while the rest of Windows 2000 ran on the other. Back in the days that was the best performance I could squeeze out of any computer.

  • @clicktobhushan1
    @clicktobhushan1 Před 3 lety

    basically we can increase the bus width on motherboard and divide it equally to multiple cpus by creating data dividing bridge on motherboard for processing. In this way by using two 64 bit cpus 128 bit data can be processed at a time, 256 bit data by four 64 bit cpus, 512 bit data by eight 64 bit cpus and so on for next generation ultra fast processing technique.

  • @jihadsadi1575
    @jihadsadi1575 Před 3 lety +26

    People still dont know that they can simply download more cpu and ram from the internet

    • @Tdevelops
      @Tdevelops Před 3 lety +2

      Exactly 😆

    • @insanitylol
      @insanitylol Před 3 lety +2

      I downloaded a Ryzen 1 bill for free and it so fast. Can even load through the gta screens in 1 second

    • @SwankyDirectorYT
      @SwankyDirectorYT Před 3 lety +1

      I downloaded 2 Ryzen Treadripper off the internet and 2 RTX 3090TI in SLI and 10pib of ram.

  • @LIKEcommentANDsubscribe
    @LIKEcommentANDsubscribe Před 3 lety +4

    I was wanting a video on this a few days ago. Don't believe me? I wouldn't either, and I am me.

    • @flameshana9
      @flameshana9 Před 3 lety +1

      I believe you though. Because I am you.

  • @little_fluffy_clouds
    @little_fluffy_clouds Před rokem

    I had one of the first dual CPU consumer platforms back in the day, the legendary Abit BP6 with two Celeron chips. The problem was none of the consumer operating systems of the day supported more than one CPU, so I've had to compile a Linux kernel which added SMP support and also dual-boot into Windows NT for my Windows software. On top of that, device drivers back then weren't really designed to be thread-safe, so I remember frequent lock-ups with Creative's sound drivers. It was really a lot more trouble than what it's worth.
    When Windows 2000 Pro came out, that was actually a pleasant and performant operating system which supported dual processors and ran many popular games of the day at a decent speed, such as Quake 3, which in itself was one of the few games that supported dual processors. Happy days. Compatibility wasn't 100% though, so I still had to keep a Win98SE partition around for many games.

  • @guscoronel9372
    @guscoronel9372 Před 3 lety

    The Imac pro mid 2010 (the big box) already had two xeon 5020. And customized can run catalina