The Realities of Medical Prepping for the Apocalypse
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- čas přidán 4. 05. 2024
- What can we do to prepare ourselves for the worst case scenario? Is prepping for the apocalypse even realistic? Let's find out (my opinion only).
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Been a full time Paramedic for 42 years today (5-5-82) and a Flight Paramedic for 25 years and a bunch of other certs. I would recommend the course Outdoor Emergency Care, a course offered by the National Ski Patrol.
OEC would be a great course for people who want SHTF medical knowledge. EMT is an ok course but it's heavy on information for medical emergencies that are NOT going to be fixed when things go globally or regionally bad, and are gadget and gizmo based rather than figuring out how to make do. I was NSP for 10 years and getting broken people off a ski hill took a lot more skill than calling for the local fire department to carry somebody out of an upper apartment.
I don't know a lot about NOLS but it looks just as fun and informative.
I tell all my "kids" new to EMS a Flight Paramedic is just an EMT with a lot more toys and a $4.5 million ambulance. Lots of time it's the basics that makes or breaks the call.
RE: Outdoor Emergency Care, a course offered by the National Ski Patrol. Where are those courses offered? (I"m guessing the National Ski Patrol isn't in Texas)
Agree. Paramedic 25 years. I’d add a book written by Joe Alton, MD and Amy Alton, ARNP (aka Dr Bones and nurse Amy). Alton's Antibiotics and Infectious Disease: The Layman's Guide to Available Antibacterials in Austere Settings. A bit late to work on starting to acquire a good supply of antibiotics however still able to acquire. Since most po antibiotics have a quite lengthy shelf life (when stored appropriately), a no-brainer to me.
When paramedics are talking about the apocalypse, it's time to make sure you're prepared.
No guarantees to life...
Medic here, I'm prepped... js
Haha I don’t know anything more than you do. Was just looking for a topic and this one was accessible.
It may not be a worldwide apocalypse, but a local one is not exactly unheard of in history.
@RoyOrbisonsElvisTape look at all the infrastructure failing; bridges, boats, and train derailments, etc. Those would all be local apocalypse type events.
We can look to medics in Gaza for a fairly realistic view of what medicine in the apocalypse will look like: super short on pretty much everything, having to improvise (3d printed CATs, etc) and scrounge for basic gear, and being targeted on and off by conventional forces (no guarantee of safety for medical personnel)
That's exactly what I was thinking watching this. Saw a video of a doctor placing an external fixator on a young girl's leg that had been shattered in a drone strike. No anesthetics available. Absolutely horrific. Doctor working just as fast as he could. The emotional toll of practicing medicine in such conditions will be much higher than it already is.
Sad for all those people Hamas uses as human shields getting hurt
@@soonerstatefirephotography Eliav Lieblich, "Armed groups might be responsible for harm that they occasion to civilians under their control. But to argue that this absolves the other party from responsibility is to get both law and morality wrong." But i'm not sure you truly understand who is who in that situation.
@@IvanNedostalIts really pretty simple , dont shoot rockets at people that have tanks
The Hamastinians should have known this
Isreal was supporting Gaza both financially and logistically for decades despite being hated
We will see another DMZ there in Gaza , but you cant have houses there , another Arab nation can take in the Hamastinians, plenty of desert and plenty of $$ , we'll see who steps up
Being physically healthy & capable - “in shape”- will help you counter the things that could kill you in an apocalypse…and it’s too large to get in shape DURING an apocalypse.
Well then it would only initially help. Being in shape has to be maintained. Within two weeks of any change, your body will begin adapting to it. Two weeks without enough calories or protein, you're significantly weaker already. Two weeks without cardio, you can't go as long. Etc. As someone who's started and stopped fitness more times than I can even count, I'm uniquely qualified to speak on this. If you don't use it, you lose it, so if you can't do it during the apocalypse, it will only be a thing to help you coast along until the factors begin taking their toll. Which will be quicker than you'd expect. This is partly why it's important to have food stored and/or know how to secure it off the land. And (speaking to myself mostly here) learn how to exercise safely. Lower back currently pitching a fit because I tried to up my deadlift when I shouldn't have. Don't wanna be weak when/if it hits, but can't be counted on if I got a herniated disc shooting pains down my legs huh? Lots of factors to consider with apocalyptic fitness haha
I helped out in some clinics in Nepal last year. Nowhere near the apocalypse, but also not as logistically-friendly as our better healthcare systems.
All the single-use supplies relies heavily on logistics (and also electricity!); without it we’d have to go to decades-old methods of sterilizing and autoclave things like cotton gauze and cloth bandages.
indeed and I am interested in knowledge about "decades-old methods" of sterilising and bandages.
@@DimitarTomovEUget a pressure canner that can reach 15 PSI for ~90 minutes
This will sterilize any metals, and cotton gauze thoroughly inside jars
You’ll need a propane burner (and propane fuel) for outdoors and running it in large batches to not waste precious fuel
The “all American” brand is great for this
These fancy medical kits are nice but darn expensive. Easy to find list on google on what a good family size first aid kit should have. Also note, some items in these pre packaged kits have a shelf life. Lastly, having a kit whether commercial or something you put together yourself is fine, but if you don't train/take necessary first aid courses etc., you are just throwing money away.
Money would be useless to you in the Apocalypse too :)
@@drupiROM yep
Often this stuff is not that complicated to use , tons of you tube videos on how to .
Also if you have a HRA , FSA acct. They are accepted .
Also North American Rescue is another source .
Buy coban, Maxie pads,band aids ,tourniquets, rubbing alcohol and I antibacterial cream. That right there is the cheapest first aid kit you’re gonna have.
North American Rescue. Make your own kit.
I prep my home for two weeks, a bit more worth of water, six months of my prescriptions. I prep my outdoor carry and first aid for 72 hours. Other than that, I’m far more prepared than almost anyone.
I also keep all of my books and literature on a kindle. I can charge that thing from a small solar setup and have access everywhere I go. Those books are going to get awful heavy.
Good advice. I have been a ski patroller, an EMT, and am currently the mountain biker go to guy when someone gets hurt on the trail. Basic medical skills have helped me all my life and I know I can be the person that brings some measure of order to when chaos happens. I have medical supplies, books, and training. Continuing to educate yourself is the best advice to be prepared for the unknown.
I am an ex EMT and I am still first aid/CPR certified...I live in a small town and my doctor who lives in our town is a combat medic and is from S. Africa and he has some seriously crazy stories. He has been all over the the place. He is only a block from my house!! So glad he is here so if SHTF... We were comparing trauma bags and supplies! LOL!
I have been in ems for32 years 20 years as a medic in urban and rural areas. This same conversation I have had with my un trained friends and the reality’s it brings. Very good information and these things need to be said. 911 will not be there no ems,fire,or law. There will be no functioning hospitals you must know how to help yourselves and your community without help. Praying 🙏 for us all. God bless. ❤
So wait, that “army field surgical kit” I bought at the surplus store doesn’t turn me in to a trauma surgeon? LOL. Thanks for sharing the hard truths. (Former paramedic here)
It did for me. I’m the coolest guy on the block now. Everyone wants me on their team now.
Not having hot wife helps more in postapo.
@@IvanNedostal What?
You need to binge watch all 99 seasons of M*A*S*H. The you'll be trained well enough
@@Roland14d Already done. And Hogan’s Heroes. I’m ready!
Lab tech here. Cannot thank you enough for speaking to the blood transfusion myth. Every single time we need to administer blood in the hospital we do a type and screen on both the patient and the donor blood. We would never take someone’s word for it. If a patient receives blood with antibodies that are not compatible, they are at risk for a severe allergic reaction, kidney failure, or death. It slays me when someone says, I’m a universal donor. Doesn’t matter as we each have unique antibodies in our blood. When mismatched blood is transfused, the patient's body attacks the donor red blood cells, which is called an acute immune hemolytic reaction. A hospital is equipped to manage this successfully, which is not likely out in the field.
As an RN, I can’t imagine giving or receiving blood without a type and cross!
100% True
I just got EMT certified, and I think it's a great place to start. It covers a wide area of medical information, enough to do the job.
Dunning Kruger
@@mww1363bruh u gud?
I am constantly bothered by the false dichotomy of fully functioning society vs zombie apocalypse. There is a world of situations between those poles which might warrant layman medical intervention.
The thing about the short term emergencies is that not all is lost. We can be rescued or helped by someone not in the disaster. The problem with the apocalypse is that those people will be too busy to help you.
The thing is that if we play the numbers there will most likely be some kind of resource and the road to an “apocalypse” (barring global nuclear strike) is not a straight drop to the bottom. More likely is that short term emergencies compound into a much larger issue.
@@PrepMedic right but if people are going around saying 'can't believe I lived to see the apocalypse' its probably bc of the EMP bombs that wiped out our power grids.
I learned many years ago than most 1st aid commercially sold is a boo boo kit, that tiny sample of burn cream isn't for a horrible burn. Or another issue happened when a person ran a skill saw across his thigh by accident. There isn't enough rolled gauze, 4x4's,to properly maintain wound for transport.
Gotta get more dedicated kits/equipment for any anticipated serious needs. Bleeding control kits, abdominal pads, z-fold gauze, malleable splints, thermometers, antiseptics...it's a lot. And even after $1000 on a truly well-stocked kit, it still doesn't make someone a surgeon. A grid-down scenario is horrifying.
@@hawkeye7527 I suggest everyone to get trained too. You are not the surgeon, hopefully you can keep them alive until you can get help.
Been there and done that Austin (Tx) ambulance service 1969, a year later an infantry platoon medic, then flight medic RVN, Charter EMT 1971, and US Army Physician Assistant. I am now the "Doc" for a prepper group. I keep emphasizing minor injuries/wounds, preventable disease and poor hygiene will cause the vast majority of fatalities. I heartily agree with your evaluation of IFAK's, if you actually NEED a tourniquet, you're likely to die if advanced surgical care isn't available. The main reason to learn emergency medical techniques is for "local" disasters where you keep someone alive long enough to get to the hospital. LEARN to improvise!!! Other commenters mention Maxi Pads, duct tape, and after tying the patient's hands, then feet together, ironing boards can be used for litters for smaller people. After teaching an EMT class I always ask, "What's the most important vital sign to take in an emergency?".... Your own pulse. Calm down, focus and get to work.
100% agree with you. That's one of the main reasons I started studying Emergency Medicine and became an EMT, I also have not only several paper books but a HDD filled with wilderness medicine, surgery, natural remedies and other basics, with solar energy back ups.
"I would rather have it and not need it versus needing it and not having it"- JFK
This rings more true today than the day he said it. Regardless of what it is (I.E medical, knowledge, training) Understanding what can and probably will eventually happen. People need more training you can have all the tools and equipment but if you don't have the knowledge of how it all works it doesn't matter. Thanks for sharing and have a Fantastic week
My concerns are eye wounds and oral medicine. Parasites, poisoning(bad food, tetanus from scrounging etc. Third world medicine is basic as the weak and unfit die off. Two books, 'Where there is no Dentist', and 'Where there is no Doctor', are great helps. Skin diseases, poltices, tinctures, what is poison vs 'enough' with some discomfort? Deliver a baby-no birth control and people with time on their hands. STD's from 'barter'. In children. The world we think we know goes away quickly.
Excellent video! Live just sitting back and listening. Great info.
Let's also remember there is hope that you can survive while understanding the harsh realities. Remember to pray if we are all ever in that dire of a situation.
Thank you for all you do man. Godspeed brother
Greetings from Germany! I am an ICU nurse and paramedic and a former Combat First Responder. I don't consider myself part of the prepper scene but my experiences make me want to be prepared for certain events (mainly the "normal" stuff that is also recommended by the government but that very few people have actually experienced themselves).
I like your way of thinking that many people forget to think about the obvious smaller events. I have a neighbor who started preparing for "the apocalypse" some time ago and has taken very unstructured precautions, e.g. hoarding useless things, buying overpriced equipment and doing amateurish self-sufficiency. When he asked me for advice on what type of crossbow he could buy to fend off looters, I lost my cool and asked him how he could reach his parents' house if both main roads were flooded and he only had a map to navigate...or what he would do to splint his three-year-old son's broken leg if the nearest hospital was out of reach...he never brought up prepping with me again...😅
this is one of the best videos you have done, true honest and considerate discussion to the realistic threat picture :)
The only way to keep my family safe is to build an organic chemistry laboratory in the wilderness. Got it.
Fortunately, I have prepped for exactly this 😅
Herbs!!!
This format works just fine. Keep the videos coming.
Sam, I appreciate your pragmatism. As an engineer, when risk planning we create a graph where one axis is the severity of a situation occurring and the other axis is the probability of that situation happening. Risks in the upper right quadrant are what we focus on first-severe AND probable. Zombie apocalypse may be severe but it’s not probable. Roadside collision with injuries is perhaps medium severity and probability.
I think of disaster planning the same way. I have no gear for backwoods transfusions but I have a trauma kit in every car. I don’t have a box of ammo in my car but I do have tools, tow straps, and stuff for fixing tires. At home I worry more about weather and fire rather than zombies. In terms of medical, I won’t ever try to replace a hospital, but I focus on controlling problems enough to get a person to the hospital-which is why I follow your channel.
Thanks! great format and content.
This is one reason why more successful groups prep and build out medical facilities as well as personnel. For instance, my group has multiple nurses and surgical techs, with most of the rest of the group having TCCC training as well. We also have several people with extensive herbal / natural medicine training. In addition to people and knowledge, you have to have the supplies to make it all work.
Totally agree with gaining life saving skills. That's why I went back to school and almost finished with nursing school. I love your channel and had been a fan for a long time. ❤
knowledge is better than choice gold.
thanks for sharing.
much appreciated, thanks Bro
Fantastic video thankyou
Very well said video. The true reality of no grid is frightening! Strong work prep medic:)
Excellent, rational perspective. I really appreciate your realistic take on this topic. New sub.
Look into books: The Survival Medical Handbook, When There is No Dentist, Herbal Antivirals & Herbal Antibiotics, etc. Look into Refuge Medical training & kits.
Loved this video!
I liked the more informal format. It feels like sitting in the ambulance and chatting with your partner between calls.
As a retired rn I do an occasional series on how to survive specific illnesses and injuries in a disaster. You are very correct in that morbidity and mortality will rocket upwards.
CPR, blood transfusions, brain surgery in shtf are likely a mega waste of resources. Triage has to be harsh and firm.
Whole blood needs advanced icu in large amounts. Calcium? Temperature control? None of this works in a field lol
10:55 butt puckered for a moment. That truck was so close😅
So basically EMT level minimum, but then also understand basic nursing skills (wound care, hygiene etc), understand, make and study, herbal medicine. Along with stocking up on OTC meds or possibly prescription meds (antibiotics etc). I'll say this as well physical books on medical topics of your choice like I said from EMT level up to herbal medicine, survival, farming, etc.
Great video buddy
Good video. Bringing it back to reality, thanks.
I completely agree with ALL you have said here. It is so important. And I know that if some sort of situation such as ‘grid down’ happened, I would still be overwhelmed by the deaths, even though I have read books on the subject such as ‘One Second After’, etc. and have a good college based study of A&P and some pre-nursing. I so wish that there were more relevant classes I could take to learn as much as possible. I love to learn.
Thank you for making this video, it is vital that folks try to understand that there will be waves of death in a grid down situ. And it will be very hard to take. Hope it never happens, but it’s good to try and prepare. We live in a crazy mixed up world these days…❣️🍀
Dietrich and the crew at Medical Gear Outfitters are awesome!! Any time I need something for my first aid kit I go to them
I started with TCCC, now going back to school for paramedic. The Survival Medicine Handbook is a great resource with background knowledge. The military put out a report that meds last ten years, plus, after expiration, but with deteriorating efficacy. Not counting stuff that needs refrigeration, etc. My biggest concern with current potential conflicts is cyber, and EMP attacks. Winter is over, so not concerned with winter storms at the moment.
TL;DR: trying to plan years ahead in a SHTF scenario is not a good use of your time or resources. 90%+ of people will be gone within the first month
Awesome video. 👏
Good info.. 🙏
Thanks!
This is helpful. Start simple, build from there.
Follow up video: walk thru how you’d do it.
Here's one: what are you doing with the trash? Back in Ebola there was a paper that described literal drums of infectious waste and gallons of infected fluids. Per patient, per day.
If Ican give som feedback... I think that your regular format of videos is much better. This one has poor video kvalty but the informations provided is nice. Thank you for that. Nice angle of view.
a good book resource are books on boating medical ... because when you are in the middle of the ocean.
you are on your own.
I've been begging prep channels for info on properly using animal thyroid (grid down)for YEARS. Do you have suggestions? Is there a way to guess dosing? PLEASE!?
A great reference book to get is The Survival Medicine Handbook by Joseph Alton MD and Amy Alton APRN. It has tons of information, written for non-medical people to understand.
Hi ex paramedic from OZ here, yes you are very much on the money with what you laid out. There is varying degrees of Shit and it's only the depth that varies. Some preppers without training or know how to use equipment will be of very limited value. Even as a paramedic you will probably be alone, without trained help. In Hospital you can make a phone call, or call code blue and have many trained hands around you all doing different things at once.
I guess to sum up, like dirty harry says " a man must know his limitations." in a genuine apocalypse we will be under staffed, and under resourced. And like you said, replacing specialist surgeons is extremely problematic. Even securing drugs such as adequate pain relief will be a challenge if not impossible.
At best we will be winging it with herbs and things used back in medieval days.
Great video. I wish there was more medical SHTF classes out there. Things like puncture wound treatments, minor surgeries, shock care, ect. would be great. If anybody knows of classes that can facilitate that in southern CA let me know. Thx and thx for the video
Re 8:00 or so, part of prepping is absolutely people. You can have folks trained on austere and pre-hospital medicine, absolutely, but you also absolutely need advanced practitioners in your back pocket as well. Find friendly local vascular and orthopedic surgeons and get them on your team. That's not knowledge you can just go and get: you need to find folks who are in this and help ensure they have the best possible gear available. They may not have an MRI and you don't, but a lot of folks can get ahold of things like an autoclave and surgical tools, etc.
Can't take EMT classes in Florida without taking full semesters of unrelated prerequisites. Makes no sense. Trying to hire a EMT or nursecto teach your group is nearly impossible if they are still working...their employers forbid it in fear of lawsuits.
Antibiotics, antipyretic,anti diarrheal ,tourniquets sharp knives and saws, books on plants.
“Where the is no Doctor” and “Where there is no Dentist” are great starts to that none digital bank of information in this subject
Mortality rate for 19th century amputations was about 25%.
Man I like the intro better on this one. The other one was good too.
Good video. One of the things that concerns me is tourniquets. I have them. I know how to use them, but if there's no backup facility should I even bother??
paramedic student and an emt - very good video
Thanks brother! I appreciate it.
Killing an animal and giving your wife its thyroid is so metal, and a good plot for an apocalypse story. If I ever write a book, it will be in it
😂😂the worst part is that you can’t cook it.
The fundamentals that you cover here is whats most important, I hope thats the takeaway for people
This makes me think I ougt to start teaching myself to do sutures when I can.
Get some.
I love medical gear outfiters. Fast shipping. There are no issues from me. I got deployed to Iraq last year and I had an extra ifak from them. I had peace of mind the whole time.
To be honest be prepared for a DIY building job or car accident.
This is some good humble pie! Yumyum!
A while back I did a fairly thorough calculation and figured that if you can survive for about 90 days, post Apocalyptic beginning, most people will be dead, or nearly. Starvation. (Cannibalism, assumed to not become popular).
That doesn’t mean your troubles are over. But having less worry about getting a life ending injury due to violence, increases your chances of living longer. Let’s be real: a bullet wound, without advanced medical care, is a death sentence in most cases. The Western movies aren’t good references for probabilities.
Well, today, people are arguing about not pasteurizing milk, so in postapo just tick-borne disease from sheep milk... 80% of houses will disintegrate in 10-30 years. And i'm not even counting houses destroyed because of no city/HOA provided tree trimming, brush clearing lol. Imagine your postapo child seeing tornado for first time
As always, sensible advice. I'm always amused by obese preppers who rely absolutely on 17 different medications yet delude themselves into imagining they would survive even a couple of days without power, never mind a meltdown scenario. Preppers, for the most part, merely confirm the truth of the Dunning-Kruger phenomenon.
Barber training to pull teeth; butcher training to amputate fast and clean. Arterial bleeding control by cautery or sterile micro-field stitching. Expert herbalism and midwifery. Those are real Apocalypse skills. I faint at the sight of chicken blood, lucky me.
Re the splinter - a friend of mine ignored a splinter in her foot. It got infected. First she lost the foot. That dudnt stop it. Then they amputated below the knee. Still not hood enough. She lost the whole leg eventually. This is in modern Britain with a full first world healthcare service . We can assume its worse in an apocalypse.
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Well said. Always tell people ik that in my very limited knowledge I think everyone should have medical for everyday tragedies but if stuff got apocalyptic unless it’s a minor wound that you can keep clean you almost might as well ditch the ifak and focus on ammo and or avoid/dictate the fight.
Also right on about small issues in todays time straight up killing people in a collapse. I think only smart move in a collapse is first focus on preventive medicine and then community tribe level herbal medicine. For instance keeping your teeth clean and not dying from a toothache
Also
Does your friend from Canada ( timmagin ??) have a you tube channel or website
Good stuff but please no AI thumbnails
You do know that people in the old times and even ancient times lived into their 60's and some into their 100's? I'm not saying everybody did, but we seem to have this notion that people just died when they reached their 30's.
I think its because the child mortality rate was a lot higher so it brought the "average" life expectancy way down
@@boyo1348 That's really what the denominating bar was....but people seem to think that we've lived in the dark ages for 4000 years. Which is not true. The man of yester year was quite resourceful and resilient.
@tonyhutz true, but for hundreds of years the average life expectancy was 30 years old and about 100 years ago it started to jump up dramatically with the advent of our current modern medical system and evidence based practice. 30 is average partially due to high mortality rates during childbirth but it is not the only factor.
@@boyo1348 not just children.....dying in childbirth wasn't unusual for the mother
Any thoughts on (re)sterilizing your materiel, equipment in home situation? And what equipment is available in (metallic) form which is reusable, AFAIK all plastic equipment is one time use only. Not apo friendly
Does Calcium Hypochlorite powder + water work for medical equipment cleaning ? Is pressure cooker needed for cloth / gause sterilization or is simple pot enough ?
Can you identify a reliable source for perscription antibiotics?
You should look at homestead medical he’s doing classes on long term care that are great.
there id freeze dried food that has a 25 years shelf life. What antibiotic has the longest shelf life and or is there any type of "freeze dried antibiotics? Something that can go off grid for 15 years and still be effective?
I’m taking EMT class rn I’m at the ends of it but taking all off emt in one month is crazy
Mine was 5 weeks. I was happy to push through it fast
The ICRC book on wound care is good if you are medically trained.
Prolong field care podcast is great. But only for pro's.
For non medical pros during the apocalypse:
Learn to stop bleeds, learn to use an Ifak.
Learn first aid.
That's probably about it.
Materia Medica & The Emperor's classic
Does anyone know any good places (sites) in Europe to buy medical gear from? Thanks in advance
I have bandaids. Will I survive?
Sounds like antibiotic cream, bandaids, and Encyclopedia bookshelves would be infinitely more useful than tourniquets in that scenario
Exactly. Prevention is the name of the game.
I believe I heard that in the past 1 in 5 children died before they were five.
Your completely right about the blood. On the CZcams channel China insights there is a vid called sister of blood. It explains she needed over 7000ml of blood which was from more than 20 donors, just to keep her alive long enough for surgery. The vid is about other aspects of the story but it does align with what you are talking about
We had a guy from one of our traumas receive 120 units of blood before the end of surgery (for reference each unit is about 300 ml, that’s 36,000 ml
@@PrepMedic the 300mil is what they estimated too. It seemed like in China they are different with blood donations, like it’s only from consenting family or you don’t get it, this story was a scandal because the party ordered everyone in civil service with her type to go donate. But it does show what you were talking about, that if you need blood you need a lot more real care.
@@PrepMedic isn’t that like 4x replacement, that’s a lot of units
You're not saying anything that hasn't been out there for 30+years. The stuff we all learn is only applicable with a functional system, but it's where you have to start for " normal emergencies" . beyond the normal- small stockpile of personal meds , then some common sick call meds , then diagnostics..... Think clinic not ED and certainly not trauma bay . Skills will be more common than supplies.
Time to study again
Fixing to get lit yo, better get them preps up to speed. Jase case, too yo
What you're talking about at 4:50 isn't mundane enough. I got a splinter in my hand and had to have it surgically removed because it was going septic!
OH 6:00 you just said it! lol
I'm going to be a post-apocalyptic warlord or I'm gonna die trying!
Has anyone actually seen Prepmedic & Skinymedic in the same room at the same time? Sort of like Clark Kent and Superman ?
what if you tried to do a video on medieval apothecary?