Testing My First Fountain Pen - Honest Thoughts
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2024
- After 12+ years of urban sketching, I finally own a fountain pen! In this video, I share my first impressions of the fountain pen and ink I received as a birthday gift. Enjoy! :)
Asvine Black Forest Fountain Pen Fine Nib: shorturl.at/bd359
Rohrer&Klingner Ink sketchINK: shorturl.at/lsEF4
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As a beginner, I would appreciate any tips, resources, and recommendations if you have any! I’m eager to learn more and find what works for me. 😊 thank you!
I'm a beginner too but I've seen a lot of content related to them too. And there are a lot of things to check, but I'll be simple:
1) Rollerballs are a type of pens with the same type of ink as the Fountain pens but being easier to manage in general as they work almost the same as Ballpoints. The problem obviously is that they don't have the option of "Flex Nibs" where you can vary the lines width.
I'm not the one to say if it's better or not to use one or the other but you should try both.
2) Paper, oh my... This was one of the things that almost made me lose It. You need to choose the perfect Paper for Fountain pens, they all work differently and depending on what you choose the ink can go well but bleed or almost not flow and feel scratchy. It also depends of preference.
3) Material and hold. It's not the same a heavy pen than a light pen, neither a plastic pen compared to a metal pen. And also some pens have specific ways to be hold and most of them but not all have the option for both left and right handed. So even if you feel like you can hold the pen easily you may fall into the "It slips out of my hand" when you try to do something slowly. You should try to find something that let's you move your hand as you desire but not that freely as you could need to hold tighter the pen and we don't want that.
4) I know you must know this better than me but inks even from the same branch can be completely different. Some last a lot, others are dry, others give a shiny look and orhers not so much. It depends once again on what you want. But if you ask me you should try A lot of colors in small bottles.
Oh, and Never (Even more as a beginner) Mix up inks, it's something risky thay can or not have good results. So for the effort is not worth It and It could ruin your nib and pen's insides.
5) If what you want is "Being more echological" you have to know that some people start with this and randomly start buying a lot of Fountain pens for their look and feeling. If this one doesn't feel right to you it's fine, but it's something to master, not to have for few months. You can always check the brand if they have the option of changing Nibs for this so you don't need to buy other Pen to feel the different lines.
6) Talking about Nibs, Western and Eastern Nibs work differently. I'm not going to say nothing about something I don't know, but you can search for Japanese Fountain pens too.
7) You don't need to worry about the methods you fill up your Pen hahahha I also would like to have that filler too so it's much faster. If you really like to spin that thing is fine, but just letting you know that there are a lot of brands and a lot of filling mechanisms. Such as Piston (You press and It pushes the ink through) and more.
8) The pen has to be in a place not warm, neither cold as It could ruin your ink. Also the position of the pen. If It dries, try to Push the ink downwards, if It floods, try to Push It Upwards and if it's fine let It rest horizontally.
9) And finally, try to learn how to Write with your whole arm. With Fountain pens you have the freedom of movement as It makes the lines fluid without pressing the Paper. This gives you a lot of opportunities for curvy and fancy lines, but if you keep pressing the Forearms you'll lose It. I'm not saying you Have to do It, but learning It could be beneficial.
Tell me below what you think and if you have some doubts. Maybe we could learn together too hahah
I've been on this Fountain pen journey for 2 month and 26days. (Jan 2024)
It started out as a fun , curious experimental journey....
and after watching 100's of youtube channels,
I've purchased just shy of $2,000 Canadian Dollars and still going strong..LOL
I've bought Pen cases, ink syringes, 5ml ink Sample bottles, dozens of ink , and two dozen fountain pens and a variety of calligraphy fountain pens.
Now I am experimenting with fountain pen paper, for art work and writings.
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It is endless , this journey... and still tons of fun.
My advice is , don't be like me.....and buy and buy, just cause CZcamsr influencers have something new in the fountain pen dept....
Work with what you got, enjoy it, and when "YOU" feel the need to change up the game...go for it.
@@kan-zeePen minimalism is a thing. As a kid I had one pen which only ever used Royal Blue ink. It's not suitable for this use case, but the concept is valid. I also see the term "grail pen" thrown around too lightly. A grail pen is something special, not someone's latest expensive dopamine high imo.
I highly recommend Platinum Carbon Black. It's so smooth, black, and very waterproof. I moved over to fountain pen for the same reason as you. 😊
I agree, Platinum Carbon Black is my favourite.
Expensive.
@@herrsteppenwolf I think it's still worth it cause the bottle lasts so long.
Thank you! A lot of you have recommended the Platinum Carbon Black, and I actually decided to purchase that one along with the Fude nib. I'm excited!
@@CharVillena I hope you love it as much as I do!! 🥳
Welcome to the rabbit hole of fountain pens!
Great first set, and nice drawing!
For a very good black ink that is waterproof, the goulets did an experiment with all the archival black inks they had, and one came clearly on top:
Platinum Carbon black.
I love that ink so much, I always have a pen inked with it, despite doing more journaling than drawing.
Even though, it's great for sketching as well.
Thank you! I did in fact go through the rabbit hole, haha. Also, many of you have recommended the Platinum Carbon Black so I just purchased it along with the Fude nib. I'm excited!
A fude nib is an easy way to get line variation. You may also consider investing in a pen with a flexible nib. These will give you a wide range of line thickness by varying the pressure applied. The tines of the nib open wider, allowing for a thicker line, but are a smoother experience than some of the dip pen nibs. Some of these are gold nibs, although there are some pens with steel flex nibs that have recently been produced. Not all gold nibs are flexible. Some vintage pens also have more flexible nibs. A couple of other options to get some line variation are a calligraphy nib or an architect nib. Similar to the fude nib, the shape of the nib gives a thicker line in one direction and a thinner line in the opposite direction. The advantage of the flex nibs is being able to vary the line thickness in a single stroke without having to change the angle of the pen.
Wow, this was so helpful! Thank you! I actually purchased the fude nib yesterday, so I'll most likely make a video about that. I saw demos on it and was impressed with the line variation.
Welcome to the Fountain Pen Community....Enjoy the Journey Char , it is alot of fun .
waterproof ink =
#1 = Platinum Carbon ink . it is affordable and you get lots of it.
#2 = Sketch ink
#3 = Noodlers ink . Not exactly waterproof untill it's fully dried, i find.
Thank you! It's been so much fun learning from you all! I appreciate every single one of you :) I decided to purchase the Platinum Carbon ink to go with the Fude nib. I'm excited! I'll most likely make another video about that.
@@CharVillena I subbed your channel, so I don't miss any new discoveries .
I have had several "Fude" nib pens, including the sailor fude de mannen - they are an excellent way to get line variation in your art (before you go down the flex nib rabbit hole)
Thanks for sharing! I’m actually thinking of purchasing the sailor fude de mannen real soon (it was recommended to me a while back.) I watched a video about it recently and was impressed with the line variation!
I’ve used a Lamy Safari fountain pen for drawing for a good few years now, but I recently got the same fude pen in the last few months and I absolutely loove it, so was so delighted to see this is your first pen! It’s officially a Hongdian Black Forest, but asvine seems to be the shopfront selling it on Amazon (where I also got mine). Fude nibs are so darn fun to draw with!
I also use the same ink, Sketchink, but I’ve heard countless recommendations for DeAtramentis Document ink as others have mentioned here!
If you want the finest fountain pens in size, i recommend a pilot penmanship EF. I think this is a 0.2.
Welcome to the world of fountain pens. I also enjoy using fountain pens to draw with. My favorite waterproof inks are De Atramentis document Brown, Platinum Carbon Black, and Noodlers Lexington Gray if I want to crosshatch or layer into darker lines. All of these have been completely waterproof for me once they fully dry. You can quickly brush over the Document brown before it dries and wash it a bit before it fully dries once it dries though it sets up. You also have to be careful adding ink to wet paper because it can bleed for the same reasons - just use this feature for your benefit. You can also paint in ink with brushes and push it and thin it with water. The drier the ink the less it’ll wash and wet ink behaves very much like watercolor.
Thank you! I've decided to purchase the Platinum Carbon Black to pair with the Fude nib. I'm excited! I've taken note of the De Atramentis Document ink for the future :)
@@CharVillena De Atramentis document inks have been my go to for colored permanent inks, and you can mix them if you stick to the document series to really make any color you want. The blues and purples can be a little aggressive on paper unless you use coated paper or smoother watercolor papers. I enjoy pushing De Atramentis Document Brown with a water brush before it dries fully for some shading- kind of has an old timey look especially on cream papers. I also just enjoy writing with it. Document Brown is my most used by far. Even playing with water soluble inks can be a lot of fun. Just tone back the water compared to watercolors or they can get out of hand quickly when overwet. You can even use them on more absorbent papers and take advantage of the chromatography separation of the inks colors - can get some neat effects.
I bought my first fountain pen a couple years ago and LOVE IT! I chose the twsbi eco with ef (extra fine) nib. I also bought a super inexpensive dip pen set with several different nibs and have a ton of fun with them. I do not miss micron or fine liners at all. ❤
Soild choice for a first sketching fountain pen! I've owned a few of these under the "Hongdian" brand name. I switched to fountain pens for art in 2017 and I love them, the fountain pen ink is also great as a watercolor alternative.
You just jumped down the rabbit hole. Good lock! 😂
I don't know what I got myself into! Lol. As overwhelming as it is, it's been a fun ride so far :)
Congratulations on your first fountain pen! It can be quite the rabbit hole. I appreciate the reduction of plastic waste compared to the Micron pens. R&K inks are great. Another good line is DeAtramentis Document inks -- I know several sketchers who use their black, and they also offer other ink colors. (Get the Document line, not regular DeAtramentis inks.) The DeAtramentis Document Black is slightly less intense than Platinum Carbon Black in terms of pigment and so not quite as likely to clog a pen if left too long. It's a great waterproof black too, but as another commenter said, you may want to keep it in cheap pens.
Thank you, Marilyn! I did in fact go through a rabbit hole, haha. Thank you for the recommendations, I appreciate you!
I love the Rohrer&Klingner sketchINK, but it does have a tendency to dry out in your pens because it is a pigment ink and the sediment will clog up the feed. For this reason I only use it in my Platinum Preppys or Platinum Meteor pens because they have 'slip-n-seal' tech in the caps so they stay wet for a long time. I have a video about mixing the colors if you are interested in creating your own custom colors which is also fun :) My go-to waterproof ink would have to be the Platinum Carbon Black, it is so reliable and works great in the Platinum Preppys too 💜
Thank you for sharing! 😊 I’ll have to change out the ink to one that’s actually best for the Asvine fountain pen. I’m thinking of using this one in the video for journaling and buying the Sailor fude nib for sketching. I saw that the platinum carbon black pairs well with the sailor fude! I’ve used that ink in college and loved it.
The Koh-I-Noor Rapidograph Ultradraw Waterproof ink is designed for technical pens, so it doesn’t clog. I hope this helps 🌱
Welcome to the world of fountain pens, defo have fun, I have found some white fountain pen ink by De Atramentis, it is their document range, and it works oh so well on black/purple/silver/craft paper
Thank you! I'm excited to learn more about fountain pens, and I'm grateful you all are sharing your knowledge with me :) I've been hearing great things about De Atramentis, so I'm taking note of that ink for sure!
De Atramentis inks are great. I've been able to keep them in my Lamy Safari and FPR Himalaya for long periods of time without issue. The Rohrer and Klinger sketch ink, is otherwise great, but it starts to clog within a few days.
Hello , glad you started your fountain pen journey , when you buy a waterproof ink - make sure its for fountain pen, not for dip pen . When you use Pigment based inks ..please clean your pen in every 2 - 3 weeks .❤
Thank you for the tip! I recently learned how to clean out the ink converter and I actually enjoy it, haha.
Platinum has two incredible black inks.
1) Carbon Black is used a lot by artists as it was the darkest black fountain pen ink until the next one on my list was recently released.
2) Chou Kuro which is currently considered the blackest fountain pen friendly black ink available. It is more expensive than Carbon Black.
Thank you! I recently purchased the Platinum Carbon Black because many have recommended it to me. :) I'm excited to try it out!
@@CharVillena I love it. While I'm not an artist, it's great for work being a permanent black.
I think Frank, one of the hosts of the podcast Fountain Pens an Stationery did a fade test of different black inks including Carbon Black, ballpoint ink, and Sharpie marker and Carbon Black hardly faded, beat the ballpoint ink, and either faded the same or less than the Sharpie. That was in direct sunlight in a window. He did that before Chou Kuro came out.
welcome to the fountain pen world! sketch ink is actually my favourite for sketching, they dry so fast! but there is a whole world of inks. i want to try the octopus line next, though it will still take me a while to get through the sketch ink. my favourite colour is jule its a dusty rose type colour in a sailor fude pen (mine is a $20 steel nib and is amazing) anyway would be happy to send some samples your way i received a sample of de atrementis purple that is waterproof and i know i wont use it i prefer my dusty rose haha oh! also, non permanent ink is also fun to go over with water or for washes :)
Thank you for sharing! I’ve never heard of the octopus line, I’ll have to look it up. I’m actually thinking of purchasing the sailor fude pen soon because I saw a video recently and I’m impressed with the line variation! I don’t use colored ink, otherwise I would be interested in the samples. I really only use black/gray inks for journaling and sketching. But thank you for offering! 😊💖
@CharVillena oh no worries! Yea the octopus inks are meant to be waterproof and vegan but it will be a bit before I try them, if u end up trying let me know what you think!
Hi, fellow lefty. Welcome to the world of fountain pens.
Thank you, fellow lefty!
Noodler’s black is the affordable option. Nobody else in this hobby seems to have to worry about that, but in case anybody else who is poor also loves fountain pens, I’ll mention that it only has to be wildly expensive if you have a channel or Instagram for it. Otherwise anyone can get a starter pen and some Noodler’s ink and draw or write a year for $30. $50 if you get a fountain pen friendly notebook too.
Thank you! I've heard great things about Noodler's ink :) It's definitely on my list of inks to try in the future!
Great video! I've used different fountain pen inks and often get a fat undefined line when I draw on top of the paint. Probably because the paint makes it harder for the ink to stick to the surface of tge page. DeAtramentis urban grey and black document inks and Lamy Black (not waterproof) have done this to me when working in a hahnemuhle sketchboo, which has coated paper. You may also want to try a sketchbook with uncoated pages to see if you have different results. With fountain pens and ink the paper you use matters a lot. Goulet Pens and Fountain Pen Network are helpful resources. Also try "reverse writing " for thinner lines (writing with nib feed facing the ceiling). Best of luck! 😊
Thank you! This is so helpful! I was trying to figure out how to make thinner lines and didn’t know about “reverse writing”. I will try that out 👍🏽
As far I know, waterproof inks should never be used in fountain pens as it can clog them .
@@alisonjones3057 thanks for letting me know :)
@@alisonjones3057 I read somewhere that the sketchINK brand is safe to use in fountain pens, so I’ll test it out for a bit. If you have any ink recommendations for fountain pens that are great for sketching, I would love to take note of it 👍🏽
@@alisonjones3057 There are waterproof inks made for fountain pens that are perfectly safe for fountain pens.
I've tried several fountain pens, but I will never be able to fully switch from regular micron pen. It's more handy to bring and some fountain pen has very scratchy tip which I don't like (sensory ick💀). Also fountain pen ink is not waterproof which I find it inconvenient 😅
Who am I kidding, I honestly don’t think I can completely let go of my micron pens either 😂 I’ll still use them when I’m drawing at home. I just think having a fountain pen would save me a lot of money because I tend to go through my micron pens pretty fast. I also don’t like bringing too many supplies with me when I sketch in public, so a fountain pen would solve that problem for me. There are pros and cons for everything. And I get it, I get the sensory ick as well!
There are actually plenty of waterproof fountain pen inks. You just have to filter for them when you shop.
@@marilyngardner4269whoa! I've never knew that! Thank you!