@@samuel10125 Hopefully it doesn’t get on the challengers unless you want ITAR regulations to be slapped on you by the US government for being British.
The general consensus is that the British and Soviets kept leapfrogging each other in the "best tank in the world" race until the British built the Challenger 1. After that noone's come close (yes, even the leopard 2)
Alex T the best tank which was designed and built by the british in that era was the centurion. All the others weren't as good as the germans and russians heavy tanks. But yes centurion was back then state of the art. But let's not forget what the french inventions in tank technology gave us. Smoothbore and stuff.
....and as always the Challenger 2 looks more awesome a machine than anything else out there back then, not a single loss to enemy fire, not a single tank lost in battle, unlike others I could mention.
Udah tes deh lsg di medan laga ukrania. Apa iya tank chanlenger 2 yg anda banggain itu akan berjaya. Leopard 2 aja ko....di ukrania... Dihantam ama lencet drone. Uuurraa 🇷🇺 bravo
because the army just fucking just sit back 3km away and shoot and only fight hull down because the tank is slower less armored (excpet turret front) and still using a ye olde rifled canon so it cannot actually support the same way a leopard abrams t14 or leclerc can. it does its job very well but its not deployed the same as the abrams and leopards for instance. its very good but its not invincible.
ThE coBra x sLayer 112 thats not true,there are many americans that know about tanks would agree its a great tank .it also works both ways,alot of brits are very rude about american military
Mark Smith I love both sides and hate when both sides start arguing about who is better. like you said a lot of British people are rude but then a lot of Americans are rude so that's why I said your the only American that would agree. plus I'm getting a work visa to come and work in U.S.
ThE coBra x sLayer 112 well good for you ,i grew up in cheshire but live in miami .work visa is hard to get so good luck to you,you will like it depending where you go .if you need advice i will help you
Meanest main battle tank in the world and remains so to this day. It's not the most agile but it's the toughest and most accurate. Main armament also rotates faster than most. If I were to choose a tank to protect my life with, this would he top of the list.
It's not actually the most accurate. The rifled gun is just to enable it to shoot HESH in indirect fire at very long ranges (over 10km) and doesn't add accuracy to the other rounds the tank fires (APFSDS). In fact, our sabot rounds are designed NOT to be spun by the rifling, as this would degrade their accuracy in flight. The reason a Chally 1 got the longest range tank kill was down to two factors. 1. The sights (at the time) on other tanks like M1 Abrams didn't function for targets beyond 4km, as it was assumed this was out of effective range, while Challenger had long range sights for HESH bombardment. 2. The gunner was lucky, he said so himself, and he only asked the commander if he could engage because both tanks were stationary and they had nothing better to shoot at. The real measure of accuracy of a modern tank is in the fire control and hunter-killer systems, rather "how many targets can I, as the gunner, service in a minute?" In that regard, Challenger 2 is lacking. While the rate of fire on the L30A1 gun is actually better than that of tanks like the Leopard 2 and Abrams, due to lap-loading, the Challenger 2 has shown consistently lower ability to quickly and accurately engage targets than these competitors, and the UK knows it. New fire control systems are high on the priority list for future Challenger 2 upgrades, but right now, we are behind.
He's also lucky to be alive. Round glanced off a stowage bin and exploded into another bin. if that had hit the side of the troop compartment, they'd all be dead. Warrior is fast, but not exactly that armoured.
@@hairyassJock Yes, a rupert, so many of them congregate in the British Army. He probably works in the City of London now in finance. It's a blessed existence for them.
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards going by the Jock accents at 7:07 and 7:34 - the young Rupert at 7:51 sounds as if he's from the deep south of Scotland...........possibly Berkshire !!! Notice he is wearing US Army collar badges to help the Americans identify that he was a captain from his Brit rank insignia.
It's got a roar like a lion when moving and when it fires there's no "flinch" from the after shock from the rounds it's firing off. Not to mention it's armour. Top class tank. Cool as fuck.
The only tank that can keep up with the Leopard 2 and has even better armor. The British engineers did a good job there. The E version is now to get an even better German engine from MTU.
The challenger 2e was a project ran by vickers and later, when they bought vickers out, bae systems land. Challenger 2e ran from 1998/99 until 2005 when after a failure to sell any vehicles bae cancelled the program. The “better engine” you describe was the mtu however it didn’t do challenger 2e any good and when challenger 2e competed at the Greek tank trials it broke down very regularly. The single 2e prototype still exists just as a gate guard at the former bae systems land (now rheinmetall bae systems land(RBSL) Telford site.
@Felipe Silva Yes. Uhhhh yes, just yes. Its the Dorchester armour (the correct spelling) which is an upgraded version of Chobham which was given to the Yanks for the Abrams. The Leopard armour is not as effective. And the proof? No Challenger has ever been defeated in battle and no crews have been lost in battle (other than in one blue on blue accident) while the Leopard has suffered repeated defeats. Ask the Canadians.
The British Army must take great care to maintain and upgrade this capability. Yes tank warfare is thankfully rare. But tanks are like dinner suits, you may only need them a couple of times every few decades, but when you do nothing else will do.
In my opinion the challenger 2 is the best tank in the world even to this day. my uncle was RLC. Royal Logistics corps and has had many experiences with it, protected him and his brothers while on tour. But the M1 abrams is also a good tank i dont know how many m1's have been destroyed but only 1 challenger 2 has been destroyed think about it
please compare the participation of united states in war and know this fact that all the abrams are destroyed for the fault of united states armed forces at war. actually, all abrams were destroyed by USA army fires.
and know that chalenger1,2 was a project with Iran shir1,shir2(lion1,lion2) for 1980 after shah escape from Iran this project without enough money continue its way. anyway both of them are on one side and comparing this two monster is wasting time. you should compare them with t14 and new Chinese tank and others.
A Small Acorn that means little to nothing if it has not faced the combat intensity like other tanks such as the Abrams M1A1 AIM SA and M1A2 SEP and M1A1 HC FEP , Merkava 2,3 and 4.
Firstname Lastname I hope you realize that both the Challenger 1 and 2 have taken part in the same wars as the Abrams. Also, the Merkava has suffered losses in combat while the challenger has not.
Hey,as anybody seen the prototype anti aircfaft turret they made for the chally with (I think) two side be side 25mm chainguns called the falcon turret?, i think it still exists in the Royal armoury's museum?...
All the bum hurt yanks in the comments saying the Abrams is better I'm afraid not and also you would pull more women in a chally so that counts for more too
A real pity we’re looking at what will probably turn out to be the last tank designed and built in Britain, since we no longer have any tank production facilities the British Army’s next MBT, if they ever get one, will most likely be of foreign design and manufacture.
@@pliat That may be but they closed down the U.K.’s only remaining tank production facility several years ago and, unless they’re guaranteed large contracts, they’re highly unlikely to open a new one.
With the British and Germany military our strength is twice as powerful the we have Japan and South Korea that tripls our strength I don't know every single alie we have but the few I know if we put some of British tanks on south Korea land or even Japan with a little more of Germany weapons and tanks those guys have some of the best weapons I never knew existed lol
A TV mast located to the south of the College of Literature in Basra. The footage was from a BBC camera mounted on top of the primary sight of Major Biggart's tank - call sign Zero Bravo. The raid took place on the 29th of March 2003 with the objective to destroy several of Basra's landmarks representing the Saddam Regime and the destruction of the TV mast.
Read about this in "Main battle tank" A book which I can recommend. The tank crew had fired many HE rounds at the concrete foundations of the radio mast - which was transmitting Sadams propaganda - to no effect. The tank comander running out of options and under fire, turned to his gunner and told him to load Sabot rounds (solid anti tank ammunition but more accurate than high explosive) He then told the gunner it was up to him to try and hit the legs of the mast (a 4 inch or so wide target) The gunner was renowned as being a superb marksman and as you can see did a remarkable job destroying the mast!!!
Can anyone bring to light what he's holding up at 7:19? Is it the Kevlar from the inner lining of the Challenger? If so that means the RPG penetrated it. :0
@@v4skunk739 the challenger 2 is based on the challenger 1, which is based on the chieftain. The same way that the M1A2 Abrams is based on its’ predecessors.
@@pliat the challenger 2 has virtually no part commonality with the challenger 1 and absolutely no commonality with the chieftain. it was a new design.
@@jreg2007 the challenger 1 was based on the chieftain, originally an export tank it was then cancelled, this upgraded export chieftain then became the challenger 1. The challenger 2 is indeed based on the challenger 1, developed when the British government saw the Vickers MBT outclassing the challenger 1. Originally the challenger 2 was meant to use as many challenger 1 parts as possible (i think about 20%), however they ended up using barely any.
I’m no military person and can’t really make a knowledgeable comment about the durability of this tank, though I have heard it is good. But I have to ask has it come up against a really good enemy tank crewed by an equally highly trained crew, rather than second rate or old tanks? That’s a genuine question
Got to be a yanks post !! The challenger went up against the same enemy ??? You yanks lost tanks fact !! We did not fact !! I think this answers your question what you also forget much of the yank technology came from us poor old Brits !! Oh yeah forgot to mention the longest tank kill ??
No it hasn’t, but neither have any other modern tanks, especially NATO ones. They usually fight T-54/55, T-72 (early variants), Type-69/59(similar to T-54A) and T-62. None of which are particularly modern.
Brits destroy the enemy's intelligence-gathering and disseminating capability. Americans shoot the enemy's conscripts. What do you think is the more intelligent strategic ploy?
Not nearly enough Challenger's built ?has to be one of the best battle tanks in the world second 😂 to none at the moment? Gun maybe needs to upgraded to 130 Mm +? to smoothbore main gun ammo a standard size on most allied tanks ? Otherwise the tanks useless if can't get ammo for main gun.? Standard ammo issued to most allied tanks? The challenger tanks are back in business? Just a thought I am no expert in these things just a little opinion.
All British tanks should be fitted with PA systems and go into battle bellowing out the voice of Prince Philip, hurling abuse and insults.just pick your enemy and slip in the appropriate tape. It would scare the shit out of them,or piss them off,either result is a winner.
It’s currently in the late stages of its life extension program with the mod expected to announce a winner later this year. Rheinmetall seem to be the most likely to win, their proposal aids to add a new turret armed with the 120mm l55 smoothbore gun, rear turret ammo stowage with blowout doors and new optics including thermal optics for the commander.
@@Bob10009 it could. Rheinmetall have shown that their challenger life extension program turret can utilize the 130mm l51 smoothbore main gun however they still need to design and fit an auto loader into the turret bustle. It is unlikely that the mod will choose the l51 over the l55 as the big edge rheinmetalls design (now marketed by rheinmetall bae systems land (RBSL) has over their competition is the l55 smoothbore would put Britain in commonality with the rest of nato, choosing the l51 would not. The sentiment I’ve heard from people at the mod on forums and such however is that if RBSL wins its the l55 thats chosen. My thoughts however are that I would think having a mixed fleet of l55 and l51 armed challenger 3s would be a wise move as we move into commonality with nato should any conflicts kick off whilst also training troops on the l51 and learning the benefits, downfalls and technologies of 130mm.
@@HJDore knowing the MOD, they’ll pick the 120mm for commonality and place the order the day after the rest of NATO announce they’re upgrading to 130mm.
I fought one of these after a night out at Witherspoon's it couldn't move quick enough and I took it out with a stream of beer p!ss down the hatch. Luckily the crew were not harmed just moist and so we all went out for a few more pints together after they surrendered.
@Evil Mofo To date, the only time the tank has been seriously damaged during operations was by another Challenger 2 in a 'blue on blue' (friendly fire) incident at Basra in 2003 when the damaged tank had its hatch open at the time of the incident.
@Evil Mofo No they didn't 'lose a few'. Unlike the Abrams, NO Challenger, either model 1 or model 2 has ever been lost to enemy action. 'Lucky'? The 200+ Challenger 2s of Br. 1st Armoured Div. destroyed more than 300 Iraqi AFVs. That's class, not luck.
They were keen to replace the L30 with the L55 after favourable test firings. However I am told the single piece rounds for the smooth bore weapon require totally different stowage configuration to the multi part ammo for the L30, and that to achieve this in the Chally 2 would pretty much amount to designing and building a whole new turret. That was way beyond the scope of the envisaged upgrade and is apparently why the idea was dropped.
Challenger was built by Vickers in Leeds, not BaE Systems. However it is true that the Vickers factory has been closed. The Germans use the L55 in their latest derivative of the Leopard 2 and it is true that a Challenger 2 was fitted as such for trials however with the nature of the L55's ammunition being single piece to Challenger's 3 piece (though really the vent tubes aren't a big issue, it's the main 2 pieces, Round and bag charge that are) only 6 rounds could be stowed in the tank. To rectify this would be to totally redesign the turret as well as various components in the hull as well as moving equipment round. The cost of such a redesign was also massive and as such the cons have outweighed the pros of changing the main armament. Challenger is currently undergoing it's LEP program though which, whilst leaving it looking much the same for the most part on the exterior, will see the interior changed up with new equipment. There will be some external changes as well as changes to the powerplant and the tank will have a new breath of life breathed into it. Hope this answers your question well enough. Cheers
you have no clue the British build your guns for the Americans because you can't make a powerful gun. also you have our old armour which was on the challenger 1 it's still a good tank the abram but the challenger 2 is way better and we can take tanks out from 1+ km
Jordan the beast mate your spouting shite! I was in the British army and Ill happily say The Abrams is a great tank which happens to use the German l44 gun. The chally 2 is a good tank but coming up short in the fire power department. Because of its 3 piece ammunition it cannot fire the equivalent of the l44 and l55 long rod penetrators. Maybe the MOD can find the money to up gun cr2 to the l55 but it will mean a new turret so time will tell.
+zap brannigan Bullshit, both the challenger 2 and abrams fired many many depleted uranium rounds in the gulf war. The germans dont use depleted uranium they use tungston so the challenger actually has an advantage over the germans in terms of penetration. The challengers firepower disadvantage is extremely exagerated.
The problem with rifled guns compared with smoothbore is a slightly lower velocity and a slight "wobble" that the spin puts on APFSDS rounds that can severely hamper its effectiveness against armor. And of course the wide variety of ammunition including ATGMs that can be fired from a smoothbore. Hence why everyone in the world except the british build tanks with smoothbores instead. The Challenger 2 is probably the best protected tank on the planet, but the gun really should get switched to a NATO smoothbore design. Also, Jordan what the fuck are you even talking about? The US uses the M256 which is based on the German Rheinmetall L44, albeit with some breech simplifications that the Germans later adopted into their own guns.
Simon Barabash As stated the firepower advantage smoothbore has over the british rifled gun is highly exagerated in fact its marginal the british keep or kept it for the hesh capability and updating to the smoothbore would be pointless considering most nato countrys are deciding weather to upgun to 140mm to counter new threats.
You're completely deluded, the challenger has never been lost in combat and holds the record for the longest tank on tank kill. Abrams is like a Russian T34, easy to destroy, but there's just lots of them.
With its skirts and in desert sand, it looks like a natural evolution of the Matilda.
@Arsene Who? especially with the rheinmetall 130 ml upgrade
@@Angel_423 that sadly has not been decided yet.
At least British troops don’t cry when they get hit, they just fire back and kill the enemy.
@@Angel_423 No, that will be more American job grabbing. Sorry but you can shove that weak ass cannon where it don’t shine boyo.
@@samuel10125 Hopefully it doesn’t get on the challengers unless you want ITAR regulations to be slapped on you by the US government for being British.
My father is in the Royal tank Regiment. I have many fond memories of watching our Challenger 2s test firing out on the ranges in Germany.
The British after WW2 became really good at making tanks , the challenger Is definitely top class. I'm glad they are on our side!
The British kinda invented the tank lol
The general consensus is that the British and Soviets kept leapfrogging each other in the "best tank in the world" race until the British built the Challenger 1. After that noone's come close (yes, even the leopard 2)
I wonder why the Americans are trying to buy license to the armour that the British use?
Alex T valentine wtf are you kidding?
Alex T the best tank which was designed and built by the british in that era was the centurion. All the others weren't as good as the germans and russians heavy tanks. But yes centurion was back then state of the art. But let's not forget what the french inventions in tank technology gave us. Smoothbore and stuff.
....and as always the Challenger 2 looks more awesome a machine than anything else out there back then, not a single loss to enemy fire, not a single tank lost in battle, unlike others I could mention.
To be fair to Americans there were more abrams so its bound to lose more
One challenger was destroyed because of friendly fire
The best tank is the one with the best crew, the best training, and the best infantry and logistics supporting it.
Pretty sure one was knocked out because the turret hatch was open and took an RPG. Unlucky tbh
Udah tes deh lsg di medan laga ukrania. Apa iya tank chanlenger 2 yg anda banggain itu akan berjaya.
Leopard 2 aja ko....di ukrania...
Dihantam ama lencet drone.
Uuurraa 🇷🇺 bravo
The only tank that's never been knocked out in combat by enemy fire.
because the army just fucking just sit back 3km away and shoot and only fight hull down because the tank is slower less armored (excpet turret front) and still using a ye olde rifled canon so it cannot actually support the same way a leopard abrams t14 or leclerc can. it does its job very well but its not deployed the same as the abrams and leopards for instance. its very good but its not invincible.
@@oddball1999 I'm guessing you are just stupid or a troll.
@@YoureDumbForLife I'd say he's both!
Only ever fought in one war. A war that lasted 2-3 weeks. Challenger I, even worse. Ground offensive in Iraq 1991 lasted 4-5 days.
@@limedickandrew6016 how many Abrams were lost in those wars 😂
As a American I can tell you the Challenger is a great tank.
Thank you. :)
Mike Smith thanks. your the only American that would agree
ThE coBra x sLayer 112 thats not true,there are many americans that know about tanks would agree its a great tank .it also works both ways,alot of brits are very rude about american military
Mark Smith
I love both sides and hate when both sides start arguing about who is better. like you said a lot of British people are rude but then a lot of Americans are rude so that's why I said your the only American that would agree. plus I'm getting a work visa to come and work in U.S.
ThE coBra x sLayer 112 well good for you ,i grew up in cheshire but live in miami .work visa is hard to get so good luck to you,you will like it depending where you go .if you need advice i will help you
I love the desert C2, it looks low profile. Sporty almost.
03056932R it's the European version and had to have loads of upgrades because it couldn't cope with dusty warm conditions in Canada
Typical British comment! LoL. Guy fires an RPG at him, skips off the back of his vehicle and the Englishman smiles and says "very exciting".
SuperSix Delta That English man is Scottish
Brian Warnock the one with the Scottish accent wasn’t the one who said that, it was the guy after that with an obvious British accent.
A Scottish accent is a British accent Haha
Fuck you son of dog
@@ehabalrubaie9589 oh dear... Did the big tank run over your village?
Challenger 1 gunner..best job I ever had!
Did take part in Gulf War?
I’m an American but thar tank scares the hell out of me!
Meanest main battle tank in the world and remains so to this day. It's not the most agile but it's the toughest and most accurate. Main armament also rotates faster than most. If I were to choose a tank to protect my life with, this would he top of the list.
It's not actually the most accurate. The rifled gun is just to enable it to shoot HESH in indirect fire at very long ranges (over 10km) and doesn't add accuracy to the other rounds the tank fires (APFSDS). In fact, our sabot rounds are designed NOT to be spun by the rifling, as this would degrade their accuracy in flight. The reason a Chally 1 got the longest range tank kill was down to two factors. 1. The sights (at the time) on other tanks like M1 Abrams didn't function for targets beyond 4km, as it was assumed this was out of effective range, while Challenger had long range sights for HESH bombardment. 2. The gunner was lucky, he said so himself, and he only asked the commander if he could engage because both tanks were stationary and they had nothing better to shoot at. The real measure of accuracy of a modern tank is in the fire control and hunter-killer systems, rather "how many targets can I, as the gunner, service in a minute?" In that regard, Challenger 2 is lacking. While the rate of fire on the L30A1 gun is actually better than that of tanks like the Leopard 2 and Abrams, due to lap-loading, the Challenger 2 has shown consistently lower ability to quickly and accurately engage targets than these competitors, and the UK knows it. New fire control systems are high on the priority list for future Challenger 2 upgrades, but right now, we are behind.
As seeing these monsters in action I can tell you they are beasts, no doubt.
The guy at 7:52 isn't talking about Challenger 2. I believe he's talking about the Warrior AFV. The Challenger 2 doesn't have a rear door.
He's also lucky to be alive. Round glanced off a stowage bin and exploded into another bin. if that had hit the side of the troop compartment, they'd all be dead. Warrior is fast, but not exactly that armoured.
he's a rupert... they have NO idea of anything...
Yeah it's a warrior
@@hairyassJock Yes, a rupert, so many of them congregate in the British Army. He probably works in the City of London now in finance. It's a blessed existence for them.
Royal Scots Dragoon Guards going by the Jock accents at 7:07 and 7:34 - the young Rupert at 7:51 sounds as if he's from the deep south of Scotland...........possibly Berkshire !!!
Notice he is wearing US Army collar badges to help the Americans identify that he was a captain from his Brit rank insignia.
Lol
Memories of being part of 7th armoured brigade. Good video 😁
Yes I noticed his yank rank slides too. Thought he'd gone tonto. And in typical Rupert style, "very exciting"
I seved in gulf 1, with Scots Dragoon Guards LAD, I can tell you it was awesome to be on the breach end of the barrel!
Op telic 1 with sdg. Irish guards
It's got a roar like a lion when moving and when it fires there's no "flinch" from the after shock from the rounds it's firing off.
Not to mention it's armour. Top class tank. Cool as fuck.
funny to think i was there as a gunner in a challenger2 and my vehicle is CS 41 at 2.06 how time flies
The only tank that can keep up with the Leopard 2 and has even better armor. The British engineers did a good job there. The E version is now to get an even better German engine from MTU.
The challenger 2e was a project ran by vickers and later, when they bought vickers out, bae systems land. Challenger 2e ran from 1998/99 until 2005 when after a failure to sell any vehicles bae cancelled the program. The “better engine” you describe was the mtu however it didn’t do challenger 2e any good and when challenger 2e competed at the Greek tank trials it broke down very regularly. The single 2e prototype still exists just as a gate guard at the former bae systems land (now rheinmetall bae systems land(RBSL) Telford site.
@Felipe Silva Yes. Uhhhh yes, just yes.
Its the Dorchester armour (the correct spelling) which is an upgraded version of Chobham which was given to the Yanks for the Abrams.
The Leopard armour is not as effective. And the proof? No Challenger has ever been defeated in battle and no crews have been lost in battle (other than in one blue on blue accident) while the Leopard has suffered repeated defeats. Ask the Canadians.
The British Army must take great care to maintain and upgrade this capability. Yes tank warfare is thankfully rare. But tanks are like dinner suits, you may only need them a couple of times every few decades, but when you do nothing else will do.
This is literally the best way this situation could be put.
In my opinion the challenger 2 is the best tank in the world even to this day. my uncle was RLC. Royal Logistics corps and has had many experiences with it, protected him and his brothers while on tour. But the M1 abrams is also a good tank i dont know how many m1's have been destroyed but only 1 challenger 2 has been destroyed think about it
please compare the participation of united states in war and know this fact that all the abrams are destroyed for the fault of united states armed forces at war. actually, all abrams were destroyed by USA army fires.
and know that chalenger1,2 was a project with Iran shir1,shir2(lion1,lion2) for 1980 after shah escape from Iran this project without enough money continue its way. anyway both of them are on one side and comparing this two monster is wasting time. you should compare them with t14 and new Chinese tank and others.
I'm not interested in an argument as I said that's my personal opinion
Leighton Evans look at the video: busting Abrams tanks myths
I'll even through in the leopard 2 . That's one impressive tank.
4:32 I vividly remember watching that on UK Terrestrial news at the time and I've not managed to find it since until now. Thank you
It really is a monster of a tank, beautifully menacing.
nice video love challenger 2 tanks they're the toughest tanks in the world!
how can it be the "toughest" tank in the world ?
By not suffering a single loss to enemy fire.
A Small Acorn
that means little to nothing if it has not faced the combat intensity like other tanks such as the Abrams M1A1 AIM SA and M1A2 SEP and M1A1 HC FEP , Merkava 2,3 and 4.
Firstname Lastname I hope you realize that both the Challenger 1 and 2 have taken part in the same wars as the Abrams. Also, the Merkava has suffered losses in combat while the challenger has not.
A Small Acorn
i hope you realize the Challenger has not faced the combat intensity the Abrams has. Basra is no Tikrit, Faluja ,etc..
I wouldn't mind going shopping in this would be great fun
I love the Challenger2! Thanks for sharing brother. Greets, T.
"We came through with nae casualties, so that's the main thing." Three guesses where he's from? First tae dinna count."
The amazing thing is all the civilians walking and driving around like it's normal.
The one interesting fact is that as of November 2023, only 2 Challenger 2's have been destroyed in combat
I am watching the video now from Iraq, the city of Najaf❤🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
Hey,as anybody seen the prototype anti aircfaft turret they made for the chally with (I think) two side be side 25mm chainguns called the falcon turret?, i think it still exists in the Royal armoury's museum?...
10:40. Middle of a battle zone and random guys walks around the corner with a ceiling fan....wtf.
just a normal day in middle east
I remember seen the Challenger 2's at a scottish barracks even got to sit in it. It's record says it all the best MBT in the world.
Armored skirts and extended exhausts looked cool.
15:49, All I could imagine was Michael Wittman driving past.
And Brits killing that SS scumbag again, would be amazing.
I'm sorry but is it just me or does the challenger just look so sexy with its desert package
Somehow i can see resemblance to her grandparents matilda
Its deffinetley the best LOOKING tank
The threat of the Challenger 11 is bad enough, but if you see one of them coming towards you and it has a small Saltire flag on its side, run!......
Run even faster if they're waving cans of Irn Bru out of the turret...
@@horsenuts1831 Its a deadly liquid to our enemies!......
5:00 my fellow brits doin some target practise xD
All the bum hurt yanks in the comments saying the Abrams is better I'm afraid not and also you would pull more women in a chally so that counts for more too
Chally Ho. The Abrams and the Challenger are pretty evenly matched. But owing to Britain's small size you've only got around 200 of them.
I haven't seen any stop trying to start shit.
Funny part most yanks don't know their abrams armour is made by the brits and the gun is by the germans couldn't get anymore European.
@Kaylum and the Armour on the Abrams is the old Chobham spec.The Chally has the very latest Dorchester armour.
@@johnmcdonald9304 446 that's 227 ready for immediate deployment 219 Kept in the UK.
A real pity we’re looking at what will probably turn out to be the last tank designed and built in Britain, since we no longer have any tank production facilities the British Army’s next MBT, if they ever get one, will most likely be of foreign design and manufacture.
What are you talking about? BAe Systems is one of the largest arms manufacturers on the planet.
@@pliat That may be but they closed down the U.K.’s only remaining tank production facility several years ago and, unless they’re guaranteed large contracts, they’re highly unlikely to open a new one.
@@mrjockt I wouldn’t mind if it was made somewhere else. I just dont want a foreign design.
It's a disgrace that our politicians harp on about being proud of Britain engineering and then sells it to the highest bidder.
@10:39 Dude in the background, “I’m having this ceiling fan”.
As an American I would never want the challenger 2 to burn from enemy fire.
Well that's a relief, we are allies after all
Kyle Murphy , we only worry about friendly fire
War is a Racket, what were we doing in this place?
At 0.57 that could pass for a Matilda 2 in Libya 1941. Desert warfare never changes.
So beautiful 😍😍😍
With the British and Germany military our strength is twice as powerful the we have Japan and South Korea that tripls our strength I don't know every single alie we have but the few I know if we put some of British tanks on south Korea land or even Japan with a little more of Germany weapons and tanks those guys have some of the best weapons I never knew existed lol
Albeit War doesn't determine who's right,It gave us a lot of awesome tanks.
We should make tanks from what ever that mast is made of. Four hits to bring it down!
هذاي الحرب كانت وبالً على جميع العرب حسبنا الله ونعم الوكيل فيك يابوش
the British scientist designed the armour of the challenger 2
The fuck are you even saying?
SMC GAMING British scientist's are nut jobs in the gardon shed's
@@thegreatbritishgamer7103
That is a good sentence
My very 1st SSM,served in both Gulf Wars and would often say"Its hotter then an Arabs jockstrap"....watching this i understand why🤔🤔
GOOD to see thank you.
4:30 - What are they firing at? Radio tower?
A TV mast located to the south of the College of Literature in Basra. The footage was from a BBC camera mounted on top of the primary sight of Major Biggart's tank - call sign Zero Bravo. The raid took place on the 29th of March 2003 with the objective to destroy several of Basra's landmarks representing the Saddam Regime and the destruction of the TV mast.
Owen Eldridge
Thanks for the information.
Read about this in "Main battle tank" A book which I can recommend. The tank crew had fired many HE rounds at the concrete foundations of the radio mast - which was transmitting Sadams propaganda - to no effect. The tank comander running out of options and under fire, turned to his gunner and told him to load Sabot rounds (solid anti tank ammunition but more accurate than high explosive) He then told the gunner it was up to him to try and hit the legs of the mast (a 4 inch or so wide target) The gunner was renowned as being a superb marksman and as you can see did a remarkable job destroying the mast!!!
A very good book. I can also recommend "Shot And Captured" if you're looking for photos on the Scots DG from Telic 1.
DO you really, want to fuck with this. .
Un tanque espectacular!!!!
My ex was reme and was a reckie mec in Iraq she said that they kept breaking down due to the sand and dust
Can anyone bring to light what he's holding up at 7:19? Is it the Kevlar from the inner lining of the Challenger? If so that means the RPG penetrated it. :0
It's his sleeping bag you fanny.
Not Kevlar. The rear turret bins are made of quite thin aluminium, not composite or armour plate. I'm guessing that was a sleeping bag or some such.
The best in the world
Not one challenger has been lost in combat !!!!
When the british army was an actual army
What makes you think it has changed?
We're even stronger now, my son...have you seen the Royal Navy's 2 brand new super-aircraft carriers?
Listen to the big behemoths just ticking over as they idle. 😃😃👍🏻👍🏻🇦🇺
fuc* you
Best Tank in the World by far ... superior to the Abrams by a long mile.
You'd hope so when the design is like 2 decades newer.
@@v4skunk739 the challenger 2 is based on the challenger 1, which is based on the chieftain. The same way that the M1A2 Abrams is based on its’ predecessors.
@@pliat the challenger 2 has virtually no part commonality with the challenger 1 and absolutely no commonality with the chieftain. it was a new design.
@@jreg2007 the challenger 1 was based on the chieftain, originally an export tank it was then cancelled, this upgraded export chieftain then became the challenger 1. The challenger 2 is indeed based on the challenger 1, developed when the British government saw the Vickers MBT outclassing the challenger 1. Originally the challenger 2 was meant to use as many challenger 1 parts as possible (i think about 20%), however they ended up using barely any.
first interview with blue tack heads (army air corps)?
بقداد لم ولن تصقط لأكن دخلها الصاقطون
I’m no military person and can’t really make a knowledgeable comment about the durability of this tank, though I have heard it is good. But I have to ask has it come up against a really good enemy tank crewed by an equally highly trained crew, rather than second rate or old tanks? That’s a genuine question
I don’t think so
But either has the Abrams, and everyone bangs on about the leopard, the knew version hasnt been battle tested like the British and yanks
Got to be a yanks post !! The challenger went up against the same enemy ??? You yanks lost tanks fact !! We did not fact !! I think this answers your question what you also forget much of the yank technology came from us poor old Brits !! Oh yeah forgot to mention the longest tank kill ??
No it hasn’t, but neither have any other modern tanks, especially NATO ones. They usually fight T-54/55, T-72 (early variants), Type-69/59(similar to T-54A) and T-62. None of which are particularly modern.
The biggest difference between Brits and Americans. In American videos we shoot the enemy and not radio towers.
Brits destroy the enemy's intelligence-gathering and disseminating capability. Americans shoot the enemy's conscripts. What do you think is the more intelligent strategic ploy?
An enemy can be replaced and pick up a rifle...slightly harder to replace radio communications though
At the beginning of the video, are British wings supposed be crocked like that?
nightlightabcd No
How the hell do they move the in such small amount for it to be accurate in 4-5 Kms of fire?
Better than the Abrams for sure
No, it isn't. Both are pretty much evenly matched.
@@johnmcdonald9304 Nope ...
@@johnmcdonald9304 na mate.
Fantastic tank 👍
Awsome vid.
عاااش العرب ✌🏻
Why is the army air core commenting on air filtration systems of the armoured core ?
لاحول ولاقوة الا بالله العلي العظيم
Anyone done an insurance quote on one of these yet?
Ooooooh Yessss!!...{Churchill)... ;) Theres now a nodding dog in every Chally 3....
Not nearly enough Challenger's built ?has to be one of the best battle tanks in the world second 😂 to none at the moment? Gun maybe needs to upgraded to 130 Mm +? to smoothbore main gun ammo a standard size on most allied tanks ? Otherwise the tanks useless if can't get ammo for main gun.? Standard ammo issued to most allied tanks? The challenger tanks are back in business? Just a thought I am no expert in these things just a little opinion.
All British tanks should be fitted with PA systems and go into battle bellowing out the voice of Prince Philip, hurling abuse and insults.just pick your enemy and slip in the appropriate tape. It would scare the shit out of them,or piss them off,either result is a winner.
is the Challenger 2 still up to the task or will it need to be replaced soon?
It’s currently in the late stages of its life extension program with the mod expected to announce a winner later this year. Rheinmetall seem to be the most likely to win, their proposal aids to add a new turret armed with the 120mm l55 smoothbore gun, rear turret ammo stowage with blowout doors and new optics including thermal optics for the commander.
@@HJDore interesting, thanks for the reply.
@@HJDore it could even get the new 130mm gun 😉
@@Bob10009 it could. Rheinmetall have shown that their challenger life extension program turret can utilize the 130mm l51 smoothbore main gun however they still need to design and fit an auto loader into the turret bustle. It is unlikely that the mod will choose the l51 over the l55 as the big edge rheinmetalls design (now marketed by rheinmetall bae systems land (RBSL) has over their competition is the l55 smoothbore would put Britain in commonality with the rest of nato, choosing the l51 would not. The sentiment I’ve heard from people at the mod on forums and such however is that if RBSL wins its the l55 thats chosen.
My thoughts however are that I would think having a mixed fleet of l55 and l51 armed challenger 3s would be a wise move as we move into commonality with nato should any conflicts kick off whilst also training troops on the l51 and learning the benefits, downfalls and technologies of 130mm.
@@HJDore knowing the MOD, they’ll pick the 120mm for commonality and place the order the day after the rest of NATO announce they’re upgrading to 130mm.
SIR WE GOT HIT IN THE ASS 8:13
I fought one of these after a night out at Witherspoon's it couldn't move quick enough and I took it out with a stream of beer p!ss down the hatch. Luckily the crew were not harmed just moist and so we all went out for a few more pints together after they surrendered.
The C2 is a lot sexier than the Abrams
Nah. The Abrams is far sexier. Low slung and mean looking.
Yeh it comes with a toilet and a boiling vessel to make tea and meals.
The only tank that is better than an Abrams, 0 Battle losses
@Evil Mofo To date, the only time the tank has been seriously damaged during operations was by another Challenger 2 in a 'blue on blue' (friendly fire) incident at Basra in 2003 when the damaged tank had its hatch open at the time of the incident.
@Evil Mofo No they didn't 'lose a few'. Unlike the Abrams, NO Challenger, either model 1 or model 2 has ever been lost to enemy action. 'Lucky'? The 200+ Challenger 2s of Br. 1st Armoured Div. destroyed more than 300 Iraqi AFVs. That's class, not luck.
yh I know it's a good tank. bit our armour is better by mile because my dad knows what's it's made out of and worked for the mod.
SMC GAMING it's made with magic.
I had a stroke reading that
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Обозначение роты на танках, такиеже как на меркаве. Кто у кого украл идею?))
termal observacion gunnery system
big war in iraq it stays in asia
Is it true that BAE is not making any more tanks in Britain and also the Brits are putting a German barrel on the Challenger .
This was considered for a while as it would allow for a greater variety of ammunition however I believe this has now been discounted.
They were keen to replace the L30 with the L55 after favourable test firings. However I am told the single piece rounds for the smooth bore weapon require totally different stowage configuration to the multi part ammo for the L30, and that to achieve this in the Chally 2 would pretty much amount to designing and building a whole new turret. That was way beyond the scope of the envisaged upgrade and is apparently why the idea was dropped.
Challenger was built by Vickers in Leeds, not BaE Systems. However it is true that the Vickers factory has been closed. The Germans use the L55 in their latest derivative of the Leopard 2 and it is true that a Challenger 2 was fitted as such for trials however with the nature of the L55's ammunition being single piece to Challenger's 3 piece (though really the vent tubes aren't a big issue, it's the main 2 pieces, Round and bag charge that are) only 6 rounds could be stowed in the tank. To rectify this would be to totally redesign the turret as well as various components in the hull as well as moving equipment round. The cost of such a redesign was also massive and as such the cons have outweighed the pros of changing the main armament. Challenger is currently undergoing it's LEP program though which, whilst leaving it looking much the same for the most part on the exterior, will see the interior changed up with new equipment. There will be some external changes as well as changes to the powerplant and the tank will have a new breath of life breathed into it.
Hope this answers your question well enough. Cheers
pretty sure Vickers is in Newcastle though
@@mikeyforester6221 Crossgates in Leeds ( now demolished) and Scotswood in Newcastle. (no longer a production facility).
حسبي الله ونعم الوكيل
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beautie!
الله اكبر
you have no clue the British build your guns for the Americans because you can't make a powerful gun. also you have our old armour which was on the challenger 1 it's still a good tank the abram but the challenger 2 is way better and we can take tanks out from 1+ km
Jordan the beast mate your spouting shite! I was in the British army and Ill happily say The Abrams is a great tank which happens to use the German l44 gun. The chally 2 is a good tank but coming up short in the fire power department. Because of its 3 piece ammunition it cannot fire the equivalent of the l44 and l55 long rod penetrators. Maybe the MOD can find the money to up gun cr2 to the l55 but it will mean a new turret so time will tell.
+zap brannigan Bullshit, both the challenger 2 and abrams fired many many depleted uranium rounds in the gulf war. The germans dont use depleted uranium they use tungston so the challenger actually has an advantage over the germans in terms of penetration.
The challengers firepower disadvantage is extremely exagerated.
zap you got rekt lol 😂😂
The problem with rifled guns compared with smoothbore is a slightly lower velocity and a slight "wobble" that the spin puts on APFSDS rounds that can severely hamper its effectiveness against armor. And of course the wide variety of ammunition including ATGMs that can be fired from a smoothbore.
Hence why everyone in the world except the british build tanks with smoothbores instead. The Challenger 2 is probably the best protected tank on the planet, but the gun really should get switched to a NATO smoothbore design.
Also, Jordan what the fuck are you even talking about? The US uses the M256 which is based on the German Rheinmetall L44, albeit with some breech simplifications that the Germans later adopted into their own guns.
Simon Barabash
As stated the firepower advantage smoothbore has over the british rifled gun is highly exagerated in fact its marginal the british keep or kept it for the hesh capability and updating to the smoothbore would be pointless considering most nato countrys are deciding weather to upgun to 140mm to counter new threats.
challenger 2 sits in repair the whole time....nice
maybe abrams tank must upgraded until and after war in idlib thanks united states marines shy army of usstatenter idlib
Chally ho its good to go!What if you need to go take a shit in the midlle of the fight and you cant hold it anymore??
Challenger, long range rifled bore Tank killer..They don't know it's coming... Abraham's....meh...smooth bore trash..🤔🤔🙄🙄
لحظات الدخول لتنتهي سلطه الجلاد صدام وأعوانه الذين حكموا شعب بالحديد والنار في ظل قوانين مجحفه
I'm sure Challenger is a very good tank. Abrams though is really top of the food chain. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
You're completely deluded, the challenger has never been lost in combat and holds the record for the longest tank on tank kill. Abrams is like a Russian T34, easy to destroy, but there's just lots of them.