No One Understands the Fate Franchise
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"You can't abridge fate"
Rin: Stupid Priest thinks Satan plays by his rules
For the last time! I am NOT Satan!
Carlos Cordova yeah sure, you’re Actually Satan
@@Saya-ng1sl The Actually is important I believe
"Mista Shi-whoa, big tuff muscle myan, would it be OK if wittle ole' me mosey'd on over dere for a byit?"
Maybe he's actually Jesus?!
Veteran Fate Fans seeing Newcomers trying to get into Fate: “That’s Hell You’re Walking Into.”
Yknow that's bad cause it's from actually Satan
Hell? We're not even talking about FGO here.
@@arahaitham123 don't Forget Fate/Type Redline, Fate/Extra CCC, Fate/Strange Fake and Fate/Prototype 😂😂😂
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@@arahaitham123 I'm in evil bone hell.
Fate is just an excuse to have 3 different girlfriends in the same story...
So fate is basically persona?
that would be called a dating sims and no, Fate does more than just getting the girls, the MC is still the centerpiece
But you date none of them so...
Uh that's like every freaking visual novel that exist LMAO.
Uh damn.. I hate to admit it but.. that's actually pretty accurate
The hardest part in Fate is not actually figuring out where to start, but figuring out where it ends. The more Fate I watch, the more I realized that there’s more.
No, that’s the easiest part. Grand Order is the perfect ending point; it is literally the Avengers Endgame of the Fate franchise, time travel and all.
@@Gemnist98 even after grand order ends nasuverse will continue 😂
Just finish heaven's feel and you're done no need to watch the others because there are just spin off
@@emiyavalentine5969 But some of the spin offs are actually good tho (I can't actually think of anything except like, Kaleid season 3 and the movie lol)
and then you realise Tsukihime, Kara no kyoukai and Mahoutsukai no Yoru are set in the same universe and now you have to cover everything related to those as well
Should’ve just said this:
Fate stay night: saber route
Unlimited blade works: rin route
Heavens feel: Sakura route
Fate was a dating game all along!
Dont understand why everyone complicates it so much.
Wait a minute what about hollow ataraxia (not a new Fate fan btw)
@@inuhigh4339 Hollow ataraxia is some unholy mix of all 3 routes and its own thing.
@@narutohinataashgaara oh okay.
@@inuhigh4339 Hollow ataraxia comes after Stay Night so its not even part of that, more of a sequel-ish thing.
Them: there's how many sabers?
DW: let's add another one.
Proceeds to release caster Artoria.
I just got her first multi, horhei~
@@ZeroAoAnimations well good for you mate i'm happy for you truly. Take it as a compliment from someone who pulled 3 BB summer from a single 10x roll.
@@Mr.Foxstone man, i wanted heroine XX, ive already pulled close to 4 BBs, but that 4 star kept avoiding me like a plague
@@ZeroAoAnimations hahaha well one more to go and i'll have her at NP5 but i'm getting tired of rolling in gacha so I think i'll leave her at that. And to be honest she's not as good as she seems to be in my opinion.
@@Mr.Foxstone Grats then, take it as a compliment from someone who pulled 2 skadi n 1 holmes from a single 10x roll + 1 nero caster n jeanne ruler from single 10x roll. Btw this month i got 1 jarcher n 1 BB.
N for JP acc, I got castoria, da vinci rider n Kiara (today) but not as lucky as I got my Skadi, Sherlock, Nero Caster n Jeanne in NA (I mean the SQ I spent)
"I don't want this many sabers"
Said no real man ever.
Saber bad ne no like
saber faces are specifically manufactured as easily digestible content for plebs with white bread taste
I don't want this many sabers, I WANT MORE SAKURAS !
I wish there were as many Ushiwakamarus as there were Artorias
XD
Carnival Phantasm is the main universe of fate. Everything else are just spin offs
true
Tru
@@juan_mex6207 Carnival Phantasm isn't a Fate work. It's a Type Moon work.
No I don't think so, Carnival Phantasm is a crossover work of famous Type-Moon series which is "Tsukihime" and "Fate" also other characters like Sion from Melty Blood a visual novel fighting game btw (also by Type-Moon) Fate/Zero characters and even Ryougi Shiki of Kara no Kyoukai (another series by Type-Moon) had cameo apperance in one of the episodes so it is not just Fate it's the whole Nasuverse dressed as a comedy variety show haha
Spitting straight fact
I think I found my senior quote:
"Women are like Pokemon."
-Conner (CdawgVA)
Gotta catch'em all! Yeaaah! 😉
Now that right there is something you'll learn once you start playing FGO
@@inuhigh4339 or any Gacha game for that matter.
@@opgroundzero2.0 true mate.
Hahahahahha
*head tilt*
“Huh,that looks like you got an abridged Fate Series in your hands”
Best Abridged version I've ever seen. I have to binge watch the rest some time, I've only seen like 0 and 1. It's so good! Nice job Project Mouthwash!
Reines El-Melloi Archisorte You should see SAO abridged by Something Witty Entrainment the va for Kirito is the same one for Shirou and Sakuras is the one for Asuna
@@Ish_the_drift_boi I probably would if I had actually watched SAO lol. I'll give SAO a shot then.
Throw Actually Satan at them
Uninitiated anime fans: "The Fate franchise is confusing."
Gundam franchise: "Allow me to introduce myself."
Can this man be one of my peapol?
The gundam franchise is nowhere as confusing as the type moon verse dude. You just split into UC or non UC.
As someone who has watched a fair amount of fate and who fervently finishes 0079 and zeta gundam, gundam is much easier to get into assuming you can find a way to watch it
bruh, I've been following Gundam since I was a kid and I STILL can't tell you fuck all about how shit works
@saber 1616 Uuuuuhh.....I think I should just stay away from fate and it's Gacha hell. But I will watch those 3 or 4 adaptations that Gigguk and Joey just recommended to know about it's universal lore. And the first adaptation as well.
Connor's inability to understand how a visual novel works with multiple routes and endings, and how adapting that just becomes a clusterfuck due to essentially adapting the same game 3 times without it being clear to people who have never played the source material, never ceases to astound me. I get that he just thinks it's bullshit and to be fair it is, but what Garnt is explaining is really not difficult to grasp lol
"It has lesbian lolis kissing, I think I should be watching that" Gigguk
I still remember you for that xD
The best Fate Timeline :D
The part about Sabre being futa Artoria killed me.
Also Astofolo is best girl.
@@staticnexus893 knowing that Illya life in Fate/stay night was a living hell, she suffered probably more than Sakura
its nice to see her having normal happy childhood. Well beside kissing part...
@@jacek107ify At least Illya had a loving family for some time; Sakura never even had that.
How many times have I fallen into the Type Moon wiki and waken up hours later in a cold sweat with new foreign knowledge implanted into my cerebellum.
Nice
Oh, you're here too!
Oh, well shit, ain't this relatable.
facts
Too close to home. And there is the theory about who Beast VII is.
8:20 It took Garnt 11 MONTHS to release that video nearly a year thats just how big the nasuverse is and it not even a complete nasuverse.
Holy Shit, it is true
If this video is 1 year old and garnt video came out 1 month ago then you can say it took him 11 months. *But* in this video, he said he is preparing for a month so that means it took him 12 months (one whole freaking years).
(Why am I even analysing this?)
He literally took a year to do that video explaining Fate.
The only way to save Fate: Ufotable making a Fate route remake!
@@bocaj7748 SPOOOOOOOOOILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
They just need to remake every route, but then theyd have no money
The only way would be that fate apocrypha was the first step for generating gotcha servants. For me the story was not particulary good. After this point we are in the fate pokemon universum. Servants don‘t need a master so they can go crazy with the ammount of servants.
@@ren96706 you serious? TypeMoon makes billions on FGO.
@@ren96706 the current issue is not they have no money but they have too much money and don’t where should they continue with...
To all the weebs starting fate: Don't search what fgo is
gotta upvote this cmt
True lol
That's hell you're walking into
unless its followed by the word doujinshi
Man of culture right there!
"Just watch Zero and UBW"
Yeah I can agree with that.
"You'll understand all the lore"
* Heaven's Feel, Apocrypha, Extra approaching rapidly. Grand Order looming in the distance. *
If you need to understand the lore, you start with VN.
And Im over here trying to get into the franchise because I think Rin is hot.
Godspeed, my man.
I'm trying to get into it because i thought saber was cute.
@@onett2190 I got into it because I thought Rider was hot, but after I started the VN, I stayed for Rin.
Lmao same thoughts
Get a 3D girl ;)
Fate/Zero: Prequel
Fate/stay night: Saber route (more known as the Fate route)
UBW: Rin route
Heaven’s feel: Sakura route
And that’s it really, that’s how you understand the lore (and yes, it used to be an eroge)
Actually the truth
Watched UBW about 2yrs ago and liked it a lot. The other ones really didn't click for me and thats cool. UBW is all I needed.
and the eroge is the best(with the patch that removes the H aspects)
@@destinyblade1167 people bitch about erotic parts, but sex one is actually cannon, The one where sex was removed is a "sellout" version.
@@Zeon081 personally speaking I'm like CDawgVA. If I want to jack off I'll look for something to Jack off to but if I want a story I only want a story. I prefer having a sense of separation between the two.
Besides to me the H Scenes in FSN are just comedies because Nasu can't write smut(Tsukhime on the other hand was traumatizing)
We all love love Fate but only know a small portion of the whole franchise.
Nasuverse Fate is worth picking up but the main universe which consists of Fate stay night, UBW, HF, HA, Zero and Lord El Mellio case files. The other Fate like Extra and the others have decent writing just not as good as the Main Universe but if you want read other Fate that are on the same level of writing of the Main Universe that would be fate/Prototype, Fate/Strange Fake, Fate Requiem, and FGO.
I though fate GO was part of the main fate universe. Just set in the future and with time travel involved.
you forgot about fate hollow ataraxia
@@lelolelo5441 wdym, Fate hollow ataraxia is part of Fate Nasuverse.
@@Bluespaceboat it's more into gacha and story diven unlike the other Fate.
"The fandom used to get pissy when you recommended zero before the VN"
Me: "Wtf do you mean USED to???? They're STILL like that"
Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right!
God, I just want to nuke the Fate fandom pretty much anytime I interact with them.
WHY DO THEY HAVE TO MAKE IT SO COMPLICATED? This argument over where to start is so off putting for beginners.
@@chinguunerdenebadrakh7022 there is a pinned comment in FSN fate sub-reddit for a viewing order.
Many ppl still hate Zero until today bcoz of how Saber's character changed and its inconsistencies from the original source. I was like did Fate series even had a perfect anime adaptation? Smh
*JUST BECAUSE YOUR RIGHT DOESNT MEAN YOUR CORRECT*
Still waiting for that Fate episode that's going to be Garnt monologuing for twelve hours and Connor facepalming each minute
Don't be silly. We All Know Garnt Isn't An Actual Name XD
YOU START WITH DOUJINSHIS
WHY IS IT SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND?!
Dam i gotta step up my game. I've been on that stage for the past 3 years and still only know padoru, someone dressing up as a bear, pink hair gotta dick, and three names saber, lance, astolfo.
@@schwi7021 type moon fans in a nutshell
Roman Noodles there’s doujinshi of padoru?
I started with the Mash and Jeanne Alter doujins and still know little.
@@Zack-fu4lo depending on the season, and the ones you look at, theres padoru in the endpages. Its not actually the doujinshi its just there
If ufotable adapted the Fate route, this would simplify the watch order so much more.
And if they adapted it after fate zero instead of ubw it would've been even more simpler
Chipo Bh yeah but it’s still my favorite route. I’ve watched the DEEN version several times just cause I fucking love it.
Chipo Bh it’s the first visual novel I’ve read and it holds a special place in my heart, so to me even though she’s a brick, I still think seiba is best girl
@Chipo Bh Yeah, here's a little extract from an interview from Nasu and Takeuchi during HF release:
"Q (Dyumi): Can Sakura in the other routes (FATE and UBW) live just like ordinary girls? Even if
she doesn’t run out of control like in HF route, I’m worried about how the insects affect her.
N: ……….
T: Why are you silent?
N: ……....
T: Say something!
N: Believe in your dreams.
"
@Chipo Bh tsunderes are overrated
It’s been nearly a year and we’re still waiting on Garnt to release his new Fate video
EDIT: it’s been out for a bit now, this comment is from before the video released
I legit was talking to my friend about that video that never came out and came to this video just to double check, glad I'm not the only one who is waiting
He better release it :)
@@joelneedham4548 agreed
Your wish has been granted
LET'S GOOO
Truth. I've fallen in-love with the story and lore all by myself. Learning it all by yourself makes it all the more magical.
First time getting into Fate: WHY IS THERE SO MANY SABERS
Now after catching up and playing FGO: YES, THERE IS ANOTHER!
@Super Aventail you're quite far back, we're on Caster Artoria already
@@naganata2994 we have artorias in all different classes
I'm your 69th like. You're welcome...
@@stok8758 this truly is giving medea a good ol' heaven's feel
@Mr Grimm Do you have an android phone or a working pc? I can help you w/ that m8.
"You cant abridge fate". Aron headbutt and actully satan: observe
Don't forget mah boi YaroShien
AMEN to your words of truth!
We all know Murder Death Kill makes so much sense
#stopwakameabuse
"this is too many Sabers!"
as a Saber stan: no it isn't
up to this day, I'm still awaiting gigguk's fate abridged vid
Conner thinks that Fate is complicated
Type-Moon fans: But we haven’t even talk about Tsukihime, Kara no Kyoukai, Mahoutsukai no Yoru, and the rest of the Nasuverse!
Poor Tsukihime fans getting cucked by a remake of Fate/Extra
Exactly LMAO. Nasuverse is a rabbit hole.
@@Levigumba that nasu interview for 5th anniversary better have something about tsukihime
Levi Van Dyne Nah, F/E R is made by the new sub company, Tsukihime Remake is still being worked on by the main company, allegedly...
JJStormcat Does TM even remember that this year is the 20th anniversary of Tsukihime?
Petition for Ufotable to adapt the original Fate/Stay Night series.
Yeah, bring back the hentai scenes!
They said they won't
I don't even know how they're going to adapt Hollow Ataraxia...
@@BygoneT Since when? The only thing that has been said is that they 'respect' the original 2006 series so they won't touch it for now. (Respect my ass... It was barely acknowledge...) Also, Nasu said that he would rewrite the route if it ever to be remade.
There's also the Japanese VAs of Ritsuka/Gudao and Saber herself just said on an Aniplex stream that they want to see the Fate route remade.
There might be a slight chance. I remember not to long ago there was a Chaldea broadcast with kadoc zemlupus va saying something about the original route needs a remake and the other directors agreed. So there might be a slight chance?
Them: shitting on Fate/Stay Night
Me: That was the first one I watched and I had a decent opinion of it.
Yea really I thought it was a decent show from the early 2000's. Honestly I liked some aspects of it more then UBW.
Story wise I found it quite good.
Plus they showed the fighting more than throwing swords
Considering that it was out in the year 2006 it was quite good and although it's not the best from the series, it certainly have a special place in my hearth because that's the first one that I decided to watch and it was Saber's route
@@mustsnip537 Definitely the soundtrack, especially La Sola during the final episode. That part really got me choked up.
People: *Arguing on how to watch fate*
Me who watch fate/stay night 2006: WEAKNESS DISGUST ME
"The fate franchise is complicated. "
Tsukihime, Mahoyo and KnK: 'Most people don't even know we exist huh?'
One day
What’s that
The Nasuverse is a beautiful, terrible mess
@@ericchoi1515 Tsukihime is Type-Moon's first VN, about a vampire, a boy, and his ability to see 'the death of things'. Mahoyo is a story that details the backstory of one of the Nasuverse's big side characters, Aozaki Aoko. Lastly, Kara no Kyoukai/KnK - The Garden of Sinners in English - is the tale of a young woman struggling with her murderous impulses while working for a detective agency that investigates paranormal activity. Of the three, only KnK has a good adaptation (Ufotable's first Type-Moon work).
You can thank KnK for why we have so many Fate things these days. Takeuchi's love of the original KnK novel caused him to reach out to Nasu and offer to support Nasu writing full time. That eventually grew into the establishment of Type-Moon and the publication of Tsukihime as a doujin work. Fate/Stay Night came off of Tsukihime's success, and while DEEN might have butchered the Fate adaptation, Ufotable did a great job on the KnK adaptation films a year later.
That's probably why they managed to snag the contract for Fate/Zero, which they did a phenomenal job on, getting a better adaptation of the UBW route. After that... well, the series had a LOT of momentum behind it.
(This doesn't get into the Extraverse adding momentum, either. Which it did. While Fate/Extra was considered 'Not bad, but a bit clunky gameplay wise', Fate/Extra CCC was considered to be one of the better games released for the PSP)
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“You want to talk high concept? Let’s talk about the moon.”
“You be quiet about the moon!”
And I still dont fucking know if it was tsukihime or /extra reference lmao, would make more sense for it be extra reference since both archer n baeber appeared there I quess but humanity will never know since they said "oh yea you are all correct ab moon reference" >
Yuki Exactly lol that’s the joke
The Supercomputer-god moon or the vampire alien moon?
@@DragonInstallEnjoyer isn't that the diffrent Baeber or were you referring to the Extella one ?
It was either a tsukihime reference, an Extra reference, or a reference to Type/MOON. Either way we don't talk about the fucking moon.
i'm currently reading the FSN visual novel, i'm at the end of ubw. The more i read, the more i regret watching fate zero first. Also, i always thought "no, i won't read this monster of a visual novel", but now i think everyone should start with the visual novel and take the time.
I do plan on reading FSN visual novel first but wouldn't it spoil the anime for me? I mean UBW look pretty darn good so I kinda want to have a first hand experience but then they're people saying read VN first...what I've decided is - FSN VN > Fate zero anime > UBW anime > HF anime
But the only problem is that...I mean, I just want to know that is VN good enough that I can afford getting spoiled for anime
@@BrainDeadSpider the visual novel is more detailed and hit me really hard even after watching the animes (except for HF which i watched after finishing the VN). I would still recommend reading the VN first. It is also easier to understand than the animes which are cut down in many points. Also, I'd recommend watching Zero after finishing HF anime.
@@mrln.bllmnn So basically I should follow FSN VN > UBW > HF > Fate Zero anime.
Just a little concerned about animation quality with time...I mean, HF would be really good when compared to Zero (2011).
That's the only thing, if it's not that big of a deal, then I'll go with this order.
@@BrainDeadSpider HF is god tier animation but zero is also amazing.
@@mrln.bllmnn alright then, I'm going with FSN VN > UBW > HF > Zero...
Now just may be, may be I'll consider the route in my 1st comment due to animation but other then than that, above one it is.
Thanks a lot btw.
Peasents: what is fgo?
Emiya: that's hell you're walking into
Seriously what is it? A new porn genre?
"I don't want that many Sabers"
Someone from Type-Moon straight up said "How dare You?"
Takeuchi wants to know your address
(Me looking at my full Artoria support list on FGO)
I feel attacked...
More like Just Takeuchi...
And Kawasumi she still wants that Caster Seiba to complete the collection in FGO
@@water_color Looks like her collection is going to be complete after the last teaser
can we get an Ufotable remake of the fate route? that would just solve everything.
Yeah it would fix the watch order. If they remade the fate route people can now start at fate, ubw, and than hf. After that they can watch zero.
Won't happen. Ufo said they respected the Deen adaption.
@@destinyblade1167 at least they can reboot the fate route with nasu current writing skill.
Nah, enough fate, we need tsukihime.
@@sebastianswan7975 tsukihime never got an anime adaptation which is sad
For people wanting to get into the Fate series as I fairly recently did, here is the no meme easy to understand explanation. The original visual novel had 3 different routes that you could play through. All three of the routes started relatively similarly, but then depending on the players choices, the midpoint to the endings changed dramatically depending on which route your choices made you end up going in. (On a side note, you had to play through the routes chronologically in the first place, but that is neither here nor there). Those three routes were called the Fate route, the Unlimited Blade Works Route and the Heaven's Feel route. So for people wanting to get into the Fate anime's right now, here is my personal recommendation of how you should go about it:
Fate Route (Studio Deen) - Not a great adaptation, but the story is essential and it will also make you appreciate the animation in the other routes 100x more. Not awful mind you, and still worth watching, if only to prepare you for the later routes.
Unlimited Blade Works (ufotable) - Second route, and my personal favorite. It's what made me become a hardcore fan.
Fate Zero (ufotable) - This is a prequel to all three Fate Stay Night routes and isn't part of the original visual novel. However watching it after UBW is the perfect place in my opinion. It expects you to have at least seen the Fate route, so if you watch it at any other point, it spoils some later reveals from the other routes. So in my opinion this is the best place for it because the things it would have spoiled, you will have already seen the reveals for. It also sets up some backstory that very smoothly leads you into the Heaven's Feel route.
Heaven's Feel (ufotable) - The third and final route, what has been adapted into three movies.
I agree this is the best order to watch to get into Fate.
And for those who want to go deeper into fate, all other stories are pretty much standalone. They take the general concept of fate but twist the rules and as to not break the OG Canon they are disconnected alternate stories. Case it point apocrypha. It wants to have historicaly and mythological figueres fight each other but doesn´t want a 7 player battle royale but rather a 7 a side team deathmatch. Other stories take the concept of heroes fighting each other and gives its own spin on it.
FGO is one Giant hub where all alternate Stories interconnect, because FGO prints money and wants to bounce of of these stories and take the servants from them into the Gacha so people pay ungodly amounts of money for them.... It also due to it´s nature as being a story driven game that went on for 8 years now heavily expanded the lore and the rules of the universe, but if you play through it you can follow it along fairly easily since it spreads its information across it´s now I think 22 or 23 Story chapters and many more events.
How to get into the Fate Franchise.
Step 1: Play the VN or at least the first route
If that's not possible or enjoyable from your perspective, watch Blade Works, Heaven's Feel, and Zero.
You have now learned 99.99% of the lore
Do not watch Heaven's Feel first. I feel that needs to be specified
You don't know shit about fate if you think it's true
I think people make this way more complicated than it actually is.
Is not that hard to understand when you get inside the fandom. The problem is that is just really difficult to explain for someone outside of it.
Not that hard to understand but difficult to explain
Its not hard to explain to people outside of the fandom. People just focus on ALL the wrong stuff and overcomplicate shit for no reason.
Most of these series are *completely* independent of each other.
You can watch ANYTHING and understand the lore. The common link is just the world.
You don't need to understand saber to enjoy fate. You don't need to understand any of the main cast to enjoy the other series. You don't need to understand Tsukihime. You don't need to know all three routes.
Everything is perfectly enjoyable by itself. Stop making it seem hard.
Is not that complicated for God fucking sake all you had to tell is to watch the main universe of Fate and then watch the entire summarization of each route.
Comic book universes are way more convoluted then fate and people easily understand those.
The real problem is that whenever someone tries to explain that it's not complicated, they also try to explain how people made it so complicated, which always ends up making things seem complicated lol.
I think you appreciate the mysteries of the series if you understand they're different route showing what happens if X happens instead of Y, which means starting with Deen, then going to 0 figure out all the kiritsugu, saber being previously summoned and the rest of the stuff, then going UBW and HF. The rest of fate is pretty much hit or miss.
Getting to see a series get better with time is pretty satisfying.
Gigguk 2019: *Do you want the short version or the long version*
Gigguk 2020:
5:18
Lmao so many times
A whale has arrived in the comment section
And it was u
Same
Who is rem?
🐳🐳🐳
I’m only a dolphin
"i've been working on that for over a month...."....... *11 months later*
Lmao yeah right
@@davidyodo24 no really he finally posted the fate "long version" vid the other week XD
Eyyyyyy, we finally have the video Gigguk was talking about!
You missed out on Connor asking how many Rins' there are.
There’s 4 rins, there’s 8 sakuras, and there’s over 20 artorias. Yea not enough
Not enough.
There's not enough Rins
@@Leo40214 Space ishtar actually is three diferent rins. Soo i would say Normal rin(inclunding all multiverses),Ishtar,Eresh,Space Ishitar evil,Space Ishtar good, Astarte.
How many Astofolo are there. Thats the only question anyone should be asking.
@@Leo40214 And 4 Shirous
"Women are like Pokemon."
Gacha games
Lol
The hardest part about fate is having people telling you its complicated when in reality its not because if you experience it in a normal ass way things flow naturally
Funnily enough I watched the first Fate/Stay Night series, the studio deen version, because I mistook it for a different anime which I was trying to find on youtube, I dived headfirst in and explored the fate franchise on my own and now I am a quite avid fan of this series, I was also lucky enough to have never had to experience the toxicity of the fandom as I didn't even know it existed, so I definitely side stepped a huge bullet there.
I also became a huge massive fan of the expanded lore because around two to three years ago, I tore my achillies tendon, which made it practically impossible to walk and travel, so when the holidays came around for my school, I stayed home and watched Fate/Extra gameplay for like a full month, thought it was sick and by coincidence found F/GO, and now I absolutely love this series, with it being my favourite anime series.
So maybe because I decided to walk that trek alone, I found it much easier to understand the fate series, and as a result, I have never understood why it was so difficult to understand it, maybe it was because I watched everything and organised it in my head so its and ever present force on my thinking, but I really found it weird when several of my friends just gave up because they couldn't understand fate, but to be fair I have written nearly a thousand words of text trying to explain it to them so I guess it is quite complicated... so now I go back to just enjoying the series alone, like the good ol days
Me before understanding the fate franchise: WTF is that, it is so messed up
After understanding fate: ohh its is just simple af
Yeah once you get in, everything will actually make sense.
I eventually just came to the conclusion that only thing that cannot be changed in Nasuverse is Akasha. If you have Akasha - it is Nasuverse.
yup, i feel the same way too
Pretty much. Shit seems daunting until you just jump right in, get into it, and boom! It all makes sense.
I know
I just love how they're trying to explain to connor and hes still confused
"You see the rest of the world on fire, and you're like....no"
Connor is basically the people at this point.
He's making it more confusing than it should be
The thing about Connor is that he very clearly *doesn't want to understand*
Yeah when you're that deep into the fate franchise then you can understand what they're saying, and they're not even talking about the spinoffs and connor is already confused lol
Author: "I have no idea how to keep this series straight!"
And then Gigguk never released that Fate video
I was about to write that😂
He’s still working on it 10 months later
yeah about that
@@kurokun07 I never doubted him 😤
"I saw a spider, so I threw a table at it. It survived, so I threw a cabinet. This continued. The spider escaped, but I assure you, I mean to track it down"
Ah yes, the abridged episodes
"The original Fate Stay Night is... shit"
*Me who just watched it this year and LOVED it:* "...oh."
Same dude. I watched it when I was starting to watch anime since I see UBW in tons of best anime fight scenes. I remember really loving it at the time and them saying its shit wants me to rewatch it again. But I don't really wanna ruin my first memory as a Fate fan from 3 years ago so...
I also liked it. The ending was bittersweet. It was a good way to start. Tolerate the animation for a very old anime and you're good
Some people actually like Stay Night better than UBW. It's simple and have good ending. It's not shit actually, Studio Deen just doesn't have the animation tech we have now
@@reginaldrasyid2456 Here I am, due to a very personal taste and experience, FSN is my favourite anime of all time, and I'm fucking serious... I still remember when I watched the ending, and then I discovered the True End... as good as UBW may be, here is 100% a matter of heart, and no anime moved me like Fate 2006 did... it was all, OST, charachter design, like a dream...
your opinion is now invalidated
I have watched everything from fate and i'd say the best order is. Start from whatever you like it does not matter you will understand it either ways and as for spoilers, you won't understand the spoilers and when the time comes you'll forget it
In teh image at 0:28 starting at top left: lion Artoria, Artoria (casual side), Artoria (formal side) , Artoria (Formal front), Mysterious Heroine X, Artoria (loose hair side), Artoria (loose hair front),
Artoria Alter (formal front), Artoria (Caster casual?), Artoria (casual front), Artoria Alter (formal front2), Artoria Alter (armor).
Quote by me: "When in doubt, alternate universe"
This is so accurate, it's not even funny
It's like FMA and Brotherhood, but they're both canon!
-Everyone: Just watch Fate Zero and Unlimited Blade Works. Now have nice day choosing what fate anime to watch next.
-Me, whom for some reason decided to watch the Fate grand order movie and the babylonia anime first:
_Huh, now i see why i didn't understand a shit about it_
@Not Actually Satan nah, I'll stick with Crossing void.
@Not Actually Satan fair enough, but I'm enjoying the fact that I can get multiple characters from a bunch of my favorite animes and LN's instead of just a bunch of characters from one series. Also the drop rates are a lot better. Even though the story and gameplay isn't that good or engaging I still enjoy it.
Also main reason I don't have FGO is the fact that it isn't available in my country, and before you ask no I don't have a VPN because I'm still in highschool and my parents don't think one is necessary.
@Not Actually Satan that not hell, smt is where the hell is
I think you wouldn't need to watch the original series to understand the story of FGO.
Fgo isnt connected god why so many peopla are confused
Ohh garnt, you've been working hard innit
The nice thing about the three routes in terms of anime adaption is that you still get a full explanation of how shit works in the story in UBW because it’s the introduction as far as Ufotable working on it. So you don’t have to watch Studio Deen’s adaptation at all.
If you watch Heaven’s Feel, they skip all the shit you should have seen already. Cause they assumed you watched UBW.
"You cant abridge fate"
Rin: 100% MAXIMUN NO CHIL!!!
Sakura: sorry (not sorry)
Makoto yuki: I don't care
Yu narukami:.......
Ren amamiya: Thats the best part
I can't believe they haven't yet seen the heaven's feel movies
Agreed
@@PorungaSan true
@@PorungaSan TBH the way some of the twists are delivered in Heaven's Feel it almost feels like they expected you to watch Zero first.
Gigguk i think played the VN
@@TheNobleFive it is like star wars 4-6(original) &1-3 (prequel). Heaven feel is star war 4-6 where Luke learn he has a twin, how he was separated and who is his father. Zero is star war 1-3 where we saw Luke father perspective. Watching zero first is like watching star war prequel none of star wars fans will ever told you to start with it first.
So garnt's been working on that fate lore video he mentions for close to a year now?
Damn
It's been 6 months (as of me posting this comment) since Garnt said he was doing that Fate Lore parody video, so that tells me he underestimated how long it will actually take him.
well
@@kurokun07 yeah I know
Fate is just a big bag of marbles
Some marbles are blue some are red
And some marbles shoot other marbles in wheel chairs
Did the marbles hurt you?
No kid, I hurt marbles
Reality Marbles
Fate/stay Night in a nutshell (with only anime and visual novels/eroge):
The original visual novel is three routes: Fate (the Saber ending, or boy's ideal ending), Unlimited Blade Works (the Rin ending, coming to terms as a young man who has to face the challenge of your ideals versus reality), and Heavens Feel (the Sakura ending, accepting reality and bringing about the most ideal ending as man or something). Fate/stay Night is about the events of the 5th Holy Grail War of Fuyuki City, it occurring 10 years after the previous war, which the main character, Shirou Emiya, happened to be a survivor of the fallout.
Fate/hollow ataraxia - a spinoff/sequel to the original Fate/stay Night that does what Kagetsu Tohya did to Tsukihime and is a giant visual novel clusterfuck of routes and such. Also, it focuses on the original Servant of Lancer and the Servant class Avenger. Required for Carnival Phantasm jokes (so not to understand the Fate franchise... but kinda)
Fate/stay Night (2006) anime - adaptation of the Fate route with a little touch of UBW + HF. Considered pretty bad by today's standards due to age and the slightly half-assed-ness of the first anime adaptation.
Fate/stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works (film) (2010) trash. Don't watch it. Literally is a waste pf 105 minutes. Made Fate fans around the world angry both old and young (when they realized how shit it was)
Fate/Zero (2011) - prequel of Fate/stay Night, which focuses on the 4th Holy Grail War. Focuses on the Servants and Masters of that time, including Shirou's adoptive father, Emiya Kiritsugu, and his Servant, Saber. Like... actual Saber from FSN. Also, this would herald in ufotable making all official Fate-related media, which is to all of our benefits.
Fate/Prototype (2011) - a retelling of the Fate/stay Night story based on the original prototype ideas of if Emiya Shirou were an emo girl and Arturia Pendragon instead of being a girl, was a bishi-as-fuck bishounen. This is a totes accurate summary of it. Also, this is the equivalent of a 12-minute trailer.
Fate/kaleid liner Prisma Illya (2013) - spinoff magical girl anime series animated by Silver Link. Fate/kaleid is the story of "normal" 10-year-old Illyasviel and her chance encouter with Ruby to become a magical girl. Second season is very loli police-inducing, but overall the show has some very solid elements and helps expand the lore of Fate. But... if you don't like lolis then just skip.
Fate/stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) (2014) - an amazing anime adaptation of the Unlimited Blade Works route of the original Fate/stay Night adaptation. Has many references to Fate/Zero and the original Fate/stay Night visual novel (some of which are lost in the Fate/stay Night anime from 2006, so can't say those references carry over).
Fate/stay Night" Heaven's Feel (2017) - a series of three films that focuses on the Heavens Feel route of FSN. Actually, pretty amazing and another highly recommended on my part if you've found yourself in this Fate rabbit hole.
Today's Menu for the Emiya Family (2018) - spinoff that can best be described as taking place in the Fate/hollow ataraxia timeline? Essentially, just Shirou cooking good food for the entire cast of Fate/stay Night, friends and former-enemies included. Cute and short.
The Case Files of Lord El Melloi II (2019) - a Fate-related spinoff focuses on Waver Velvet, now holding the rank of Lord in the Clock Tower as El Melloi the Second. This is the story of Waver/El Melloi's struggles on his road to catch up to his King, Iskandr. Recommended watch post Fate/Zero.
Future series are not listed at this time. And as discussed before, this is a focus on the Fate/stay Night portion of the Fate franchise. If you'd like to fall deeper into the rabbit hole, there are a slew of other games, light novels, manga, anime, etc. Fate/Extra, Fate/Apocrypha, Fate/Strange Fake, and Fate Grand Order share lore elements with FSN, but are ultimately all separate from the Fate/stay Night story and universe. Also Carnival Phantasm while made mention of, is a 2011 OVA series that takes the characters from the Fate franchise and the characters from other Type Moon franchises, especially Tsukihime, and combines them for a hilarious gag series.
The order to watch is pretty simple. Just go down the list. If you don't want to start from the crappy stuff, just start at Fate/Zero. You can ignore spinoffs if you'd like.
Even shorter:
Watch fate zero then unlimited blade works. You can then watch heaven feels (other way fifth war happens).
If you want more watch stay night (other way fifth war happened, outdated), fate extra last encore (parallel future universe), fate apocrypha (parallel universe). The rest is trash/for the hardcore fans.
@@cloudwalker9572 Naw, the answer will always be "pLaY tHe ViSuAl NoVeL". XD
@@animefanrk2k True the visual novel is the best if you want to play and not watch anime though
@@cloudwalker9572 at this point I'd rather just play an rpg/jrpg than spend hundreds of hours trying to read a visual novel. Hell just finding a reliable download link and a fan English translation is enough of a pain in the ass.
T H I S.
The problem of FSN adaptation is the nature of FSN as a visual novel.
Nasu created a phantasy world and the purpose of FSN was to describe this world. As a visual novel, each route of FSN reveals a fraction of this phantom world, so there are many plots in one route which are not explained properly at that moment, but will be echoed in another route in this game. This brings a special experience for the players.
The best way of watching fate is fate (06) -> fate ubw -> fate HF. You will see the change of emiya shirou and how he deal with the problem of idealism.
Yup - it's like with Tsukihime all over again: gotta start with original route first and then immerse slowly. Seriously, I know there's some weird Fate Zero thing where they watch that but, for me, it's unnecessary. The fact that people want some kind of express version or "How-to" defeats the purpose of the original media - it's meant to be an exploration of a universe not a complete story in itself. It's like saying describing everything in the Old and New Testament but skip out all the boring bits. On another note, I have immensely enjoyed revisiting Fate-Stay/Night by following your exact route: Fate (06) -> UBW: Movie -> UBW: Tv series -> Fate: HF. In fact, it made me revise that I am more of a Rin fan than a Saber fan but, deep down, the Fate route has always been my preferred route.
I started fate zero because I found the poster looked cool, and I love it. I am just now realising what I got into and I am scared that I won't be able to stop
One way to explain this series: Kaleidoscope.
Meaning: there’s an infinite number of timelines, leading to Nasu to do whatever he wants. Basically in a sense Zelretch is Nasu
That makes a lot of sense.
I do want to know Zelretch’s origin story though. At his peak he took out the Moon avatar but then ended up as a vampire after doing so right? Then he just stuck around d*cking around the kaleidoscope.
i like my kscopes mlb
but in none of those timelines i have a kaleidoscope
seriously i've been playing for 2 years or so
@@-freeze-8603 I got lucky with the Ereshkigal banner, first ever Ereshkigal then first ever Kaleidoscope. Life is so good sometimes.
@@thebakalord could you be one of my people? Minus the kscope
To make things more complicated: Nasuverse
that's the outer circle, the last frontier for any fate fans
lets be honest, you can't 100% understand Fate if you have no basic understanding of the Nasuverse
the nasuverse is confusing and it doesnt help that idk much about tsukihime so im stuck waiting for the remake LOL
Kara no kyoukai first story of that universe is not chronological to begin with xD
Anything nasu related that is not fate it's trash
@@mohamedelhediissa289 dude you should try Kara no kyoukai.
You have never had more complex metaphysics lesson than this.
"How do you even do an abridged version?"
Project mouthwash: Hold my beer
He finally uploaded it after a year...
Connor: Things kinda got high concept on me pretty quickly
Garnt: You think this is high concept. Let’s talk about the Moon
Type-Moon fans: You be quiet about the Moon
Persona: When the moon reaches for the star
HAHAHAHAHAH
Despite what scientist say the Moon is indeed made of cheese not rock and dust, this confusion is in fact due to the type of cheese it is made of that cheese being Parmesan.
Me explaining to a friend how the earth and the moon are both living things and the World is just Gaia’s mental landscape projected over the physical universe, so it makes perfect sense that Ea is an Anti-World Noble Phantasm when it can’t actually destroy the planet: *THIS IS THE SHORT VERSION.*
@@z.schroeder5765 That’s not even getting into how humanity changes that projected landscape through the power of collective belief.
The simple explanation:
Source Material: Visual Novel "Fate Stay Night". Decision based game leads to 3 outcomes. Thus 3 anime created based on the 3 outcomes. + Prequel anime Fate Zero.
Line end. Close loop. STORY OVER.
OTHER: A bunch of spinoff series that loosely tie to the original story. BASICALLY, food for the fans who want more!
DONE!
Not hard at all!
so starting with the prequel is basically the best choice?
@@aggretsy starting with the VN is the best choice, and there is not only a prequel, but also a sequel.
@@aggretsy Either way. But I would recommend you should start with the prequel.
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And Carnival Phantasm is for the fans that can't afford therapies.
This is the short version killed me
Now that the video's out, I do not envy the time it had to take Garnt to make it. Good shit
Of course I understand the Fate Franchise! I read the doujins!
Astolfo Serie is the best so far :D
The doujins is the real content lul
Ah yes, quality content
Yanagi is the greatest author in the world
Best way to start the franchise is on nHentai
I'm proud of this community
So the fate franchise is like euphoria, it’s just showing different routes without saying that it’s different routes.
It says in the visual novel
But not in the anime
If you don't know the origin you will go to a route after another saying things like "why is this character back alive? Why is the same war happening again?"
Euphoria the show or euphoria the hentai?
@@raidenthenctzenwithinsomni4961 The hentai
One Year later the fate lore video came out.
I once got someone into fate by saying "Slice of life by day, Famous figures summoned for Battle Royale with dungeons and dragons esque mechanics at night.."
"How do you abridged the Fate series?"
Fate abridged: am I a joke to you? Gettem Actually Satan
That comment was 100% maximum no chill!
@@phantom1100 I want that!
@@Alexandru-T. Who's there? Who just complimented us?
@@Moredistress "I'm sorry!"
"How can you abridge something that complicated?"
Well first off, let's talk about the Moon
You better be quiet about the Moon!
I hope one day we will get that fate parody video
It took Garnt 10 months to realese that Fate video.
The thing that confused me most about the Fate series is the in-universe magic system
Seriously, you could write a college thesis analyzing the ins and outs of the mage craft system
The very fact THERE IS college system of each of entire magecraft is amusing.
Seriously. So much stuff like origins and elemental affinities, and even the elemental affinity part isn't intuitive. You'd think someone who has wind and water affinity can cast wind and water based magecraft not unlike jutsu in naruto but nope, that just gives them power over flow and lets them manipulate mercury.
(Tho please correct me if im wrong, i just paraphrased that from what i understood after reading kayneth el-melloi's wiki page)
Well there's a completely different series about that.
And then you realize that not everything is Magecraft. Pain.
And despite that there's still "technicality" loophole bs everywhere
Like they make up so much rules and limitations only for the main characters/villains to break it via some unexpected backdoor. It always starts with "hey you can't do X" but later change to "well if you have ABC condition fulfilled then you technically can do X but may or may not be permanently crippled and/or dead" or something along the line.
"I'm just here for the memes and porn."
-- A true fate fan
I mean the original fate stay night was a hentai so
That's a 100 percent true fan
@@ImmaLittlePip it wasn't even a good hentai imo.
tohsaka's anus
Dee Cee defenseless
“Tohsaka Rin pleases old me for money, do ho ho ho ho!”
-Luvia, probably
@Saiyara Salauddin
Yeah just look it up and you'll see it was
I like that there's a Tanya figure in the background.
"so you have 3 differe- I'M DOING THE MEME NOW"
"THIS IS THE SHORT VERSION"
Fate isnt as complicated as people make it out to be
Edit: I wanna share my opinion on this bc the reply section is a warzone. this will be brief bc i dont wanna spoil anything for newcomers. My take is that choose:
fate/zero or fate/stay night ubw. I prefer to choose fate/Zero bc it gives an understanding of the character of saber and why certain characters are in ubw. (AFTER ubw watch heavens feels no matter what. NOT before)
ubw is also really good but in my opinion it can be a better experience by the help of zero. (dont watch the movie. watch the show by ufotable)
fate stay night deen 2006 is how i started and it really is mediocre. It explains the lore the best but mostly is bland throughout. if u can push through it, go for it but i wouldnt recommend.
The ones i mention above are main timeline and it should be one of them as for how you get into fate. the spinoffs dont explain a lot like Fate/Grand Order or Fate/Extra last encore.
Note: the visual novel is a good answer but the unavailability of it plays a key factor and the commitment of being on it for a 100 hours will bother people since you can finish the main shows in less than 30 hours. (including deen it would be 42hours)
Thats it . I commend u for reading all this
I think their getting the fate lore and the nastuverse as a whole mixed up
I guess I’ll just watch fate zero first
@@lildripity5313
Let me know if you understand anything towards the end. The show looked so cool, but the story is all over the place.
@@scrim9283 yup definitely
@@t.d.2016 Isn't it the point to make it jumbled up so you as the viewer need to piece by piece arrange it
Fate fans arguing the chronology of watching Fate anime
Me: *What about starting with Kaleid Liner?*
thats actually the fourth fate route originally written by kinoko nasu and then was made into a manga and was adaptated
@@blackchase6732 uh no
@@MrThecrazyzombie it is the fourth route but was later giving to someone else
@@blackchase6732 it's not. It is said that Nasu originally worked on Illya's route but then it was scrapped. Kaleid is a completely different spin off.
@@MrThecrazyzombie kaleid is the ilya route but with changes
i just wish people would read the visual novel instead of overcomplicating things with watch orders, its 60-90 hours and worth every second, you can read it at your own pace and it really is the best way to get into the franchise.
W
noo but what about the time I could be spending on consuming the latest vapid isekai schlock/fotm!!!
But the problem is I don’t have access to free visual novels like O do for anime.
@@kpopnimation its free for everyone to download, fully fan translated, officially voice acted and even has a toggle for the H scenes, hell if you want i could drop a link right here.
I just wanted see my favourite historical and mythological figures fight each other and now I gotta learn all this multiversal lore
My recommendation: Don’t start with Carnival Phantasm
Instructions unclear. Started with Prisma Illya Season 2
As someone who started with Carnival Phantasm, I still thought that show was funny even if I never knew about any of the characters. And then as I slowly immersed myself in everything fate/nasuverse, all the jokes slowly clicked, until finally, I got every single one of them. Now I just want my Herc Summer Lancer Class that uses Cu as his Weapon with Boomalancer as his NP.
My recommendation: Only watch Carnival Phantasm
@@V3AM_ I did the same
Its just a massive shit post