An Israeli and a Palestinian Talk Peace, Dignity and Safety | Ali Abu Awwad and Ami Dar | TED
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- Israel and Palestine have grappled with enduring territorial disputes and complex geopolitical tensions across generations. In this profound TED Membership conversation, Palestinian peace activist Ali Abu Awwad and Israeli founder of Idealist.org Ami Dar envision a future built on mutual respect, recognition and nonviolent activism, where both identities coexist harmoniously. Listen for a testament to the resilience of the human spirit and the belief that, despite entrenched conflict, a shared commitment to dignity and justice is possible.
This conversation, hosted by TED curator Cloe Shasha Brooks, was part of a TED Membership event recorded on February 8, 2024. Visit ted.com/membership to access exclusive benefits by becoming a TED Member today.
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I am so moved by the both of you. Ali, when you said “I will not accept a peace that will be built on other Jewish graves,” I started to cry. I would never want a peace built on Palestinian graves, either. Thank you both for doing this work and believing that our peoples do not have to perpetuate this cycle of violence forever. Thank you for believing in our collective humanity. Shalom & salaam, may God bless and keep you both.
Thank you!
This made me cry, too. 😢
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I’ve been searching for this type of dialogue. It calms the soul and releases bad faith assumptions of alternative POVs. Thank you.
Empathy alert! If only people like this could be in power ❤
Thank you!
I’ve always hoped Ali would be next PM of Palestinian authority. Inspired leadership. 💚🙏🏼
The most honest, pragmatic, and hopeful conversation I’ve heard in years. I hope the majority of Israelis and Palestinians believe this too.
It is the best essay on the topic I have ever heard, it touched me and moved me deeply. Thank you all🙏
Thank you!
Excellent conversation...very need in these times. I wish the Palestinians and the Jews can find an harmony and peace last long formula to live together. Regards from Cabo Verde Islands.
I love this discussion! Both of them are amazing people! you can see them and you feel them and your heart warms and your eyes tear up when they talk and show their feeling. They both should be in power and in charge of their nations! Why we don't vote and support them to run their nations? Why we don't give them more platforms? Why we only hear from them on TED? Thank God! we at least we have TED. share this with everyone, if you love peace and both nations. share it.
So grateful for this conversation-peace is possible. It will take effort and dedication. Ami and Ali give me hope for the future.
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I learned SO MUCH from this interview - and I wish that these perspectives and commitment to peace were articulated and enacted by everyone who has power to bring peace to the region. My prayers and gratitude are with you and the people you work with in your respective organizations.
This is the most nuanced, intelligent and humane conversation on this heartbreaking situation that I’ve, so far, heard. It’s been particularly heartwarming for me to listen to this, coming on the heels of being told in a Facebook Jewish Community Group to which I belong (being Jewish myself), that I am an idiot and should be placed on an antisemitism watchlist, for expressing similar views to the men in this video.
I’ve now posted this video to that group
At this time of turmoil and divisions, we must work together to find solutions to global challenges and to build a better future for all…
I'm with you on that.
This is the kind of talk that will save children. Children belong to all of us. Yes, these two should negotiate the entire process of standing down the aggression. But TED won't make that happen, exactly. But wow I thank TED for hearing this.
This is the best conversation I've heard yet this year. Thank you both, gentlemen, and God bless you. 👍💖
THANK YOU! Amazing, wonderful, inspiring - And how refreshing that the focus isn't on "two states, one state, three states, confederation" etc ... but about the foundation for creating solutions that will give both peoples self-determination and peace.
- A few highlights for me:
What a beautiful observation by Ali: "The world doesn't like Jews; the Arabs don't like Palestinians - so all we have is each other!" Wow! This reminds me of former Pres. Rivlin's observation that Arabs and Jews in this area are destined - not doomed - to live together. Ami was also very clear about this.
One little "criticism" of Ali's understanding of what Jews fear: The world of Jew hatred is/was not limited to the European/Western hatred of Jews - including the Holocaust. Jews have also been persecuted and thrown out of many countries in the Middle East...
I love how Ali talked of the importance of Palestinians learning to LOVE themselves - and how he does not assume that religious beliefs about the land require wanting to kick The Others out. And how he refuses to let anyone take away his humanity by pushing him into hatred and violence - no matter what.
Finally: If third parties can contribute to solutions and incentives - great. But it is absolute not ok for third parties to pick sides, spread the conflict to their own countries, and expect that pressure is going to help the Israelis and Palestinians to find their peace and self-determination.
This should be taught at schools and universities. Worldwide.
I am so thankful for the conversation! I am Armenian, and it takes huge internal work for me not to demonize and hate the Azerbaijani side. I'll use this video in difficult moments to support my beliefs in non-violence when I'm getting too overwhelmed.
We need more power like this and we *need these people in power* on both sides.
crying my heart out watching this - 🙏🕊 please deliver on this
Thank you both, peace-makers. You guys are proving that peace is possible to be find.
Thank you dear men❤ Peace is possible
Ted is actually doing something to spread awareness about the Israeli-Palestinian crises and the reality of it. I am sure that this video will do something to at least change minds of those who oppose (or eradicate) the Israelites and the Palestinians. I actually have tons of respect for Ted because they are spreading awareness and being one of those channels who are actually responding to this issue.
Thank you so much for making this video. Your guests’ visions and compassion give me HOPE and PEACE of mind after watching the past months of chaos and violences. Thank you!
It’s so beautiful to hear you Ali & Ami speak life and love over your people and land! May God Almighty empower you both and bring peace to your land! Shalom Palestine! Shalom Israel!
Zionism is a colonial ideology
Thank you so much for having this extremely important conversation
Ali and Amir, thank you both so much. This was the only optimistic thing I have heard in 4 months. Ali, If they ever try to kick you from your home, they will have to go through me as well, and I’m so sorry for your brother and what your mother went through.
לא נראה לי קשה לעבור דרכך :)
Thank you!!! I am brought to tears.
Such a powerful video - one of the best podcasts I have heard ever. SO many powerful thoughts, thanks so much for sharing them Ali, Ami and TED!
they are the people that should be sitting at the negotiating table... ❤❤❤
All of us share this world for but a brief moment in time. The question is whether we spend that time focused on what pushes us apart, or whether we commit ourselves to an effort -- a sustained effort -- to find common ground, to focus on the future we seek for our CHILDREN, and to RESPECT the dignity of all human beings?
Thank you for giving us hope in a sea of darkness and despair 😢❤
Truly heroic work from the two of you
thank you!
Nice to see a logical discussion.
If only everyone could see the sense both these men have just shared. After all, what is happening is not solving anything only causing more pain and hatred.
What a great talk, thanks for the interesting point of view and proposal solutions
Woooow, thank you so much for this powerful talk!!!!
An eye for an eye leaves the World blind
shukran , toda & big thanks for this very insightful conversation ! 💟
Beautiful with the right people in leadership it can happen
Shukraan
just when I thought the peace would never be there I come accross this two brave thinkers, Vow!
30:41 You make so much sense. So many fingers in the pie!!! It would be so good to see both sides lay down their bias, their fears, anger and justifications, this is not a quick fix but without each side owning their part in the problem no long term viable future will be possible.
Great talk. Much respect to both of these men.
This was a breath of fresh air compared to the toxic and radioactive discussions and debates circulating on the net.
Kudos to the team and both speakers.
*"The Jew of Malta"* is a play written by Christopher Marlowe, believed to have been composed around 1589. The plot revolves around Barabas, a wealthy Jewish merchant living in Malta during the sixteenth century. Here's a brief summary:
Barabas begins as a prosperous and influential figure, but due to political intrigue and manipulation, he loses his wealth. The governor of Malta confiscates his assets to finance the defense of the island against the Turks. Barabas, seeking revenge, involves himself in various schemes.
The political climate intensifies, involving conflicts between Malta and the Ottoman Empire. Barabas, ultimately consumed by his own greed and revenge, orchestrates a complex web of betrayal. However, his plans unravel, leading to a tragic and violent conclusion.
"The Jew of Malta" is known for its depiction of a cunning and Machiavellian protagonist and explores themes of greed, religious conflict, and the consequences of unchecked ambition.
Merchant of Malta depicts Jews as positively as 'The Merchant of Venice' 😂😂😂
these guys should start a podcast
Thanks for this.
Vivo numa ilha no meio do Atlântico, onde a guerra nunca chegou, mas sou sensível ao que se passa no mundo, especialmente na faixa de Gaza. Antes de assistir a esta entrevista pensava que a paz seria impossível nesse território, pois há muito ressentimento em ambas as partes. Porém, ao ouvir o Ali e Ami senti alguma esperança num futuro, longínquo, sem os "ditadores" de ambos os lados, em que palestinianos e israelitas compreendam que a não violência é o modo de seguir em frente e enfrentar os dolorosos desafios que os esperam.
Enlightening conversation 👏🏼
No matter what side of the proverbial fence you sit on, this is the exact conversation that needs to happen and be shared❤
Very nice talk
I wish there was a love button for this video.
Thank you!
"the world doesn't love Jewish and Arabas doesn't love palestines, we only have each other" I just want peace for them and specially por palestines justice but looks so difficult at this point.
These two chaps both describe a process that can provide a lasting solution. 1st stop the violence on both sides. Next, accept reconciliation will take a long time. Stop external meddling. Allow them to find solution that works for them.
Yeeessss! So much of the issue, going back to the beginning, has been external people. There were tensions, but those would have eventually been worked out.
But the British made this promise, that promise. Then Syria had this interest, Jordan had that interest, and Saudi has another. The US has this interest, Iran has that interest, Russia has another.
And it just keeps stirring the pot.
And so much coverage in the media ..... NEEEVER helps.
Wow, this was really interesting, insightful and powerful to watch. Thank you Ali Abu Awwad and Ami Dar.
Thank you!
31:45 this reminds me of the original series Star Trek episode Let That Be Your Last Battlefield where there are two people who hate each other because one is black and white, the other is white and black.
I really wonder why this video does not yet have 3 million views. Where are the people interested in peace?
Like this, thank you
When we steal, we will lose things too. When we fight, wound, maim and kill-we will be maimed, wounded or killed in body and or in spirit. When we start a war, it will be a long and bitter struggle. Everything evil we have endured, we have been the original cause of it.
We have the ability to choose the way we wish to think and live. And we choose the way we will think and live by changing our consciousness from antagonism to unconditional love and acceptance of everyone equally.
If you imagine the damage and hurt you will like to inflict on another, your thoughts will reach your enemy and will erode their strength according to the intensity of your intention.
Do not think that your thoughts has dissolved and is no more. It rests in electromagnetic strength, taking on form until it rebounds to harm you too.
You can do much damage with your thinking and feelings. Damage to others and damage to yourself. Therefore, guard them-the tools of creativity-well, and at all times turn to God, and ask for relief from any thoughts which is contrary to unconditional love. According to the power of your prayer and the sincere faith in which you raise your mind to God, your thoughts will be imbued with new life and unconditional love.
Having dignity for oneself means extending the branch of peace to the other, rather than oppressing others by aiming one's gun barrel at them, which is an untenable solution because all human being naturally will rebel against oppression, and sooner or later, the tables will turn, so it's best to learn to live in harmony where everyone sits at the same table. 😘
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Each group needs to deal with their own extremists. Well said.
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Shalom Salam Peace Paix Pax Pace
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I find it conferting that ali look like Marco Pierre
Makes is easier to me to trust what he saying
"Look in the mirror and see where each of us has failed our kids" - are we (humans who are secure - food, shelter, clothing) willing to ask ourselves this question? Thank you, shukriya, vielen Dank!
This is so good. May peace come to to you all.
Foreign governments should get out.. and instead use non-violent ways to support peace. War is evil.
Much wisdom - but more complex than this
It's easier to start wars than to end them.
It's easier to blame others than to look inward.
It's easier to see what is different about someone than to find the things we share.
But we should choose the right path, not just the easy path.
There's one rule that lies at the heart of every religion -- that we do unto others as we would have them do unto us.
This truth transcends nations and peoples -- a belief that isn't new; that isn't black or white or brown; that isn't Christian or Muslim or Jew.
It's a belief that pulsed in the cradle of civilization, and that still beats in the hearts of billions around the world.
It's a faith in other people, and it's what brought me here today.
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🇺🇳 *United Nations* الأمـــــمُ المتّـحــــدَة ✓
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Why didn't the UN post this content at the beginning of the war?
I think there's a lot of truth that's said here. Both sides need to deal with their extremists.
However, there's a big difference to a country which has an organized military system, backed by the United States, and a country that, out of desperation, literally committed an act of horrible terror in some crazy circumstances.
I mean these people literally flew into a party in Israel with self-made crappy helicopters and machine guns... which ironically were probably also supplied by the US.
It's a shame that decades of extremism gets rewarded with even-handed solutions. So much deception and bad faith acting by the Arabs overall....
Nu, what can we do? Gotta make the best of a bad situation.
Enlightened parties within the conflict will see harmony as an esteemed outcome and view hostility and conflict as a cowardly/ lowly solution, just like addicts are drawn to drugs for the immediate ecstasy, but with early death, violence and indignity as the ultimate outcome that such addiction (to violence/ drugs) leads to.
This is proof of propaganda to me. I had to search for this and i am subscribed to Ted. Yet, i see so much stuff that pushes anger
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Historic borders for all sharing a capital city. Blue and green municipalities, one restored to Holy Holyland.
This conflict all boils down to My guy in the sky is better than your guy in the sky.
When mankind can leave religion behind will be the day when peace will blossom
I don't think so. The beginning of all this was the mass immigration of European Jews to that land. "Guy in the sky" was put to the picture of now Israel state in order to claim "validity" to that land. To emphasize that, they invite all Jews to live there, promoting "the land of Jews". The fact that Palestinians were shoved aside is merely because they are Arabs, viewed as inferior to western white supremacist. But since that apartheid state use "Jews" as core to their "validity" of that land, naturally "Islam" was viewed as the opposing side, moreover most Arabs are muslims. You notice that Christian Palestinians were not regarded as such "opposing power". They are also victims there, they must want to be free too. But since they are minority, and Jews are somehow seen align with Christianity, all we see for the last 8 decades are Islam vs Jews in this Palestine vs Israel narrative. Only now that Israel attacks on Palestine are on unimaginable level we all search for the truth. Now that information are available for free, no bullsh8t narrative works anymore. So, No, this is not about the guy in the sky.
Lmao it has to do with land not religion
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It's a pity they have absolutely no policy influence. Both sides want total destruction and are just as bad as each other. They've both completely lost sight of all humanity.
I can see some sign of Israeli people to hope ending the war against Hamas in Gaza happening now, demonstrating the majority of them wish resignation of Netanyahu and early election. it can be hope even if it doesn’t mean permanent peace between Israel and Gaza,but we still have hope… and to implement permanent peace we have to figure out why Hamas was born and what the West have done to Gaza, Palestinian. We have to fix things right to Gaza, what Britain, US, etc. have done to them. That’s the only way
Who has pressured Israel? I don’t mean verbally. I mean actionable pressure.
Almost All what you said is good on theoretical level, only if we aren't talking about a state that uses an occupied land as weapons labs, who doesn't offer birth right to people who are completely disconnected from that land. We are talking about state that went far and beyond in children rights. The whole foundation of this what so called state is not acceptable.
Saying so of course it's not acceptable to build a Palestinian nation on the bodies of innocent people. Nor deny anyone's right to have a dignified life. But it's hard really to imagine that the state of Israel will be held back by non violence resistance.
In all history, people tried to raise their voice but they couldn't bare a chance against a loby that worked for decades.
So when the Palestinians march out for unarmed resistance, and get mowed down by snipers, what then? It's like leading sheep to the slaughter. It's cruel.
The fact that top comment bellow this beautiful 43 minute discussion is as short and shortsighted as "free Palestine" makes me very sad.
We need to have a win-win attitude instead of win-lose
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31:04 to be fair Israel won't show some of the 7th of October video and photos and even when they did they put a worming and a request to not seeing it cause it could cause a sasiologcal problems .
So I did see atrocity from gaza of course not the worst of them and I did saw atrocity from Oct 7th but not the worst of them
Free Palestine🇧🇩
AS PEACE IS THE ULTIMATE SOLUTION THEN WHY DOES NOT IT HAPPEN TODAY?
Because conflict is always easier, while being more destructive than peace
In the video Palestine and Israel form one County
Such a great discussion. I will say that Ami's phrasing of "percieved threats" by Israelis is just so false. Its not an intepretation: its what Palestinians and their leader have been saying and doing for decades.
I just want peace.
get the americans to stop funding israel first
Ok, Tony Stark 😏
Miko Peled an Israeli, former Zionist Jew has all the answers, but the Israeli occupiers probably won't like it.
SO TRUE!!! Dont talk online and demonstrate and protest jisy for the sake of it and the latest trends. === "Dont he part of the problem" what ali said.
Free Palestine
Lovely convo. A little idealistic, but maybe we need some of that now. Neither Hamas nor a Bibi gov is a willing negotiating partner for peace. Some of the ideas floated are also out of touch - Israel wouldn't want to join the EU. All that said, I do pray for a long and abiding peace.
Israel would *die* to join the EU.
Peace?! Who are the Palestinians?There are Arabs in Israel living alongside Jews, Christians, Muslims, Bedouins, Druze, All are different Arabs.
Peace 🇵🇸 ✌🏽 🇮🇱
Just talk
no Action
ceasefire
I don't know I feel like you aré expecting both sides yo act as if they were on equal living situations, how do you expect ANY human being to take a moment to look in a mirror, stop AND meditate when you aré dodging bombs AND facing famine AND danger in all forma at all times decade after decade. This seems very biased and unfair to me.
So would you rather for this dodging bombs, facing famines, and danger in all forms to continue for either sides?
The vast majority of Palestinians believes in equality rights under one nation, Jews Christians and Muslims can live together and contribute to humanity, we have some much to offer and gain ❤
Talk about freedom in Iran. They are your brothers also. or in Lebanon. Or Syria. etc...
Muslims free in Palestine
“Rule over the occupied territories would have social repercussions. After a few years there would be no Jewish workers or Jewish farmers. The Arabs would be the working people and the Jews the administrators, inspectors, officials, and police-mainly secret police. A state ruling a hostile population of 1.5 to 2 million foreigners would necessarily become a secret-police state, with all that this implies for education, free speech, and democratic institutions. The corruption characteristic of every colonial regime would also prevail in the state of Israel. The administration would have to suppress Arab insurgency on the one hand and acquire Arab Quislings on the other. There is also good reason to fear that the Israel Defense Force, which has been until now a people's army, would, as a result of being transformed into an army of occupation, degenerate, and its commanders, who will have become military governors, resemble their colleagues in other nations.Out of concern for the Jewish people and its state we have no choice but to withdraw from the territories and their population of one and a half million Arabs.” - Yeshayahu Leibowitz "The Territories" (1968)
Israel has never made one good faith move for 75 years
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