Let's put an End to this...Who REALLY Won? (Georges St. Pierre vs Johny Hendricks)
VloĆŸit
- Äas pĆidĂĄn 17. 10. 2021
- Let's revisit and put to rest, who really won in Georges St Pierre vs Johny Hendricks.
___________________________________________________________________________
MERCH: teespring.com/stores/theweasle-store-2
Feel free to help out the channel with more content: / theweasle
đ±Follow međ±
/ thaweasle
/ weaslemma
đ§Business Inquiriesđ§
theweaslemma@gmail.com - Sport
Which fight next?
DJ vs Joe Benavidez next
usman x Covington
askren vs masvidal
Gustaffson vs Jones đđŒđđŒ
DJ vs Cejudo
That man Johny was geeked off the super soldier serumđ
đ€Łđ€Łđ€Ł
Based tbh
GSP has roidgut
And still couldnât finish him
So was gsp đ€·ââïž
I would feel bad if Hendricks wasnt a steroid cheat.
Has he ever even denied the allegations đđđ
@@calvincalvin3132 nope
So that's your admission that hendricks won this fight, regardless of what u believe
@@allistergraham6704 What point are you trying to make?
Fellow Canadian here, and man let me tell you I love GSP. No matter what he will always be a legend and arguably the greatest to ever do it. A true champion inside and outside the cage. However, mma fans are so selective with who they accuse of steroids and peds based off of who they like. If Usman is on steroids and or peds during Usada even though heâs never failed a drug test (nobody has any concrete proof only speculation) but GSP wasnât on steroids pre Usada when there was much more leeway in terms of now banned substances, it just shows the bias a lot of fans have. Both guys never popped but the one fighting under way more intense drug testing is the one thatâs juicing? This exact delusion just goes to show how a large portion of mma fans cannot be unbiased when speaking about these great fighters. The truth of the matter is everyone was on sauce pre Usada and why wouldnât they be? A lot of banned substances today were LEGAL back then. Athletes are going to use any advantage they can to one up their opponent in any sport, and like I said back then a wide variety of steroids and peds were allowed due to their being no Usada. So to act as if GSP wasnât on steroids here is utter ridiculousness. You canât use steroids to tear fighters legacies down like Usman and then use it to boost up guys like GSP even though he literally fought in an era when a lot of now banned substances were legal. Same thing with Jon Jones and Fedor. People shit on Jones (understandably so, the guy is an asshole outside the cage, but we have to do our best to separate the person from the fighter to keep it real here). As I was saying, people shit on Jones (the fighter) and act like all of his opponents pre Usada were not also all on juice (machida, vitor, shogun, Chael, ) etc. Meanwhile he never even popped pre Usada. In fact he didnât even pop for a serious ped until ufc 200 during Usada. However fedor popped pre Usada but nobody even bats an eye. Instead people use the even playing field excuse, which is fair, but then why not keep the same energy when talking about Jones?
The point Iâm trying to make here is we all need to do better as fans. Stop hating. You donât have to like every fighter, none of us do. However we need to appreciate greatness and the good times these guys provide us because we will miss all of these amazing athletes when they retire. Try your best to call it even for all fighters whether you like them, or not, without bias. If you praise GSP for ânever testing positiveâ but then shit on Usman for literally the same thing you just praised GSP for, based off of the exact same criteria you had for GSP: no facts and only speculation, then youâre a biased hypocrite. If it was ok for fedor to use peds pre Usada (which doesnât seem to affect his legacy according to most people) because everyone was using back then, why is it not ok for Jon Jones, Hendricks, etc to do so without their legacies having heavy asterisks?
This is the *Most* *Anticipated* "Who Really Won?" In *MMA* *CZcams* *HISTORY*
I beg to differ. I say, Bisping/Henderson 1 is.
@@jaysw4gga well if you forgot how the *2nd* one ended just look at *Danny* *Booiiis* *LOGO* and you'll notice the *lifeless* *Corpse* he is *H* *BOMBING* is *Bisping* from *204* in the Manchester arena, in *Manchester* *England* *too* *boot*
@@jaysw4gga This is a joke right?
@@jaysw4gga đ€Łđ€Ł
Itâs crazy some how sal damato still judges fights today
It's crazy how almost every scorecard I see, almost all of them is judged by Sal
Itâs because of his dad correct?
He has deep ties and probably a lot of dirt on other people. But yeah someone just needs to euthanize the poor thing. Heâs going blind!
@@pstratos7 his dad is cus damato?
@@seanmma5771 I thought so
Hendricks was on juice. GSP offered Hendricks to pay for his drug test and obviously Hendricks didnt want to be tested.
GSP taken more HGH then Joe Rogan. Johnny never failed a test
@@charles-ll2ne lol look at hendricks physique and record post usada
@@charles-ll2ne dude he dropped off after usada, he literally went from title contender to journeyman
â @@charles-ll2neLiterally no evidence. Same physique and performance pre and post usada.
â@@charles-ll2nehe has a medical condition
I would like to see a break down of every round. Just because judges agree on the other rounds doesnât mean they were right.
Pointless
@@king.indigo3692 not pointless all 2/3 judges failed to judge this fight correctly the other rounds should have been mentioned especially if it was a clear round victory instead of taking the judges account of it as fact
He definitly should of done every round atleast not just one lol boooooo!
GSP lost everyone knows it as well.. besides casuals
Why, he is breaking it down strike for strike, takedown for take down. It doesn't take a genius to see GSP lost, so weasel is doing really good showing the strikes the takedowns and all.
Gsp 3 to 2. Gsp just wears damage bad and the shock of someone actually doing well against George was so shocking every1 automatically gave Johnny all the rounds
People giving it to Hendricks don't know how to score a fight (especially in 2013 with ring control was more of a factor); 3 v 2 GSP
Hendricks was never in trouble , GSP almost got finished lol
@@dogwater290 what are you smoking. GSP had him in a guillotine and cheatdrix almost tapped until GSP changed position. And cheatrix was on all the steroids and still couldn't win
@@smhgaming3259 You're blind or naĂŻve if you don't think GSP was also on something. His story of being a clean athlete beating juiceheads is too good to be true, I'll never believe it because it has the word bullshit written all over it.
This. Reminds me of Reyes vs Jones. Jones won but Reyes shocked people.
I am happy with the decision because I'm a GSP fanboy and I always thought Hendrics was juicing at this time. After USADA, Hendrick rapidly declined and had hard time making weigjt
@Yyoung Trees No. GSP is the one who pushed for testing. Hendricks agreed then when he saw it was going to happen, he backed out.
Once testing became official, Hendricks â career declined immediately.
I wouldâve liked to see this fight with both being tested. Just as St Pierre wanted.
@Yyoung Trees You're talking out of your behind. GSP was pro-testing and is the reason UFC finally pushed for Usada. You're the one who is delusional
He still lost
Hendricks smashed him
@@Allexstrasza who tf caree
He still went away when it came around
Gsp looked more Juice than anyone else
@@MichaelForde521 so you're just gay
Coincidentally, his last fight was on the same card as GSP's (UFC 217). Where GSP made a comeback after years of inactivity, won a championship and now is a Hall of Famer, Johnny Hendricks vanished from the MMA scene with a tainted record.
Running away and Cherry picking like a true coward
@@swisscheese8628 wow.
he also was *Emasculated* by *Paulo* *Costa* that night and *UFC* *FIGHT* *NIGHT* *112* *Lee* vs *Chiesa's* *MOM* he was *TKOed* by *Tim* *Boetsch*
@@devinburkett9036 hendricks would emasculate u, think bout that b4 u start disrespecting fighters
@@silosis cheaters are not afforded respect and liars lack the true character of a man. So yeah, Bigg Rigg turned out to be a juiced up tonka truck...and he got beat like the little be-otch he was.
Hendricks deserved that beatdown by Paulo
đ
All natty fight
Look at mike dolces videos on hendricks, he never used steroids and had true reasons for why he was missing weight.
@@berternie6181 bull shit his performance went down with USDA coming in
Lmao
The video we've all been waiting for. Fantastic insight from Weasle once again. The result was a split decision not unanimous, with Sal D'Amato and Tony Weeks for GSP, and Glenn Trowbridge for Hendricks.
Thanks so much man, yeah you're right
I think georges retired from the ufc for quite sometime after the beating he took from johnny
It depends on how you analyze damage. You gave Hendricks 2 heavy that I don't think we're heavy by watching the fight. Also, the brusing started after round 3 so in round 1, visible damage wasn't there. On the ground, the first guillotine by GSP was tight, some people even say that Hendricks tapped or was about to but then GSO changed position to top control. Still very hard fight to score and let's not forget, Hendricks was on all sort of Tropicana concentrates those days.
Man all that comes second. You do not beat the champ and get the belt if it's so close there is serious doubt. Serious doubt goes to the champ
@@dingusfuzzklonnkt2755 no, that's a bullshit excuse. If you can't tell who won the round it should be a draw.
@@peoples2296 The age old saying is "You have to beat the champ to be the champ". The logic being, if the fight is so close that it could go either way, being the champ should be the determining factor.
@@robertharvey3702 it's a stupid saying. If the fight was too close to call that means draw.
@@peoples2296 I mean scream at the sky if it makes you feel better, but that stupid saying just describes the way fights are officiated and always have been. Some solice might be found from the tendancy to grant rematches when the fight is so close.
The mistake here is judging the fight by what's on 'paper' regarding the scoring rules and not by how fights were actually judged back then. Yes, by those rules you can certainly make an argument for Hendricks, but those rules were seldom, if ever followed.
In reality the way the fights were judged were nothing at all like the rules stated.
First, Take downs were judged far more important than just normal strikes or even 'significant' strikes ... you needed to far out strike someone in order to have a clear advantage in striking ... a takedown could negate a big advantage in jabs, and unless you actually 'obviously rocked' someone then a minor take-down could still overcome a large 'jabbing' disadvantage.
Second, cuts were almost meaningless, as a matter of fact some fighters were given credit or even awarded for their 'blood mask' fighting style. The judges were aware that some people bled and bruised more easily or visibly and for the most part ignored the blood unless it was from a significant blow that 'rocked' the fighter ... and IMO this is a reasonable way to judge, no matter what the rules say.
Third, submission attempts were (and still are) not as insignificant as you make them out to be ... the very fact you get yourself into a position to apply the submission attempt was worth a lot
In my opinion, judging by how the fights were actually judged back then (as a fan who has watched EVERY PPV, nearly every UFC event, and started watching and was hooked since TUF #1) GSP legitimately won that fight ... if we are to go through the fight, move by move reviewing the 'rule book' then while you might be able to make an argument for Hendricks, you'd also be making an argument for over turning a lot of other UFC fights that were judged the same way, and which you could make an argument that they were judged incorrectly if you go strictly by what's written in the rules, but in the end the better fighter won despite having more of his blood on the ring canvas!
The judges do not have the luxury of pausing video and categorizing every single strike. Not a robbery. A takedown and submission attempt are not insignificant.
Also the contender needs to actually win and dominate to beat the champ, that is true in all the decisions championship fights in all organizations, split decisions usually go to the champ, benefit of the doubt. You want to avoid controversy as a fighter, donât go 5 rounds with GSP, he wins all decisions, submit or knock him out.
@@ferociousfil5747 That's less of a factor in MMA va boxing, but yes. I agree, if you leave it in the hands of the judges then part of the game includes 'robberies'.
If that fight were being judged by today's rules, it wouldn't have even taken place since Hendricks would have been on at least a years suspension, if not a lifetime ban, for PEDs ;-)
What do you think about Jones vs Reyes?
@@Anonymous-jf2gy I probably would have have it to Reyes 48/47, but if it went anywhere from 49/46 Reyes to 48/47 Jones I would have not called it a robbery.
The one judge giving joined 49/46 was bogus IMO, but it didn't change the outcome, so ....
But a robbery, but not a secure I would have given, for sure.
Fun fact 16/16 media members scored it for pigrig. Not saying I agree but probably the only time I've seen all agree.
Iâm pretty sure that the reason the media was so unanimous over the 1st round was because they showed the striking stats that you can see at 7:09 that only gave George half the strikes that he actually landed
Yup, that was the exactly it. The strikes on the screen were way off, and you had Rogan over selling the impact of Hendricks strikes despite the fact none of them caused any physical problems for Georges. He simply adjusted and fired back
Please do Gustafson vs DC!!! One of my favorite fights of all time and I would love to get your opinion because everytime I watch it I change my mind on who won
Wouldnt make sense the who really won is about robberies and not domination
Thereâs no point because DC clearly won that fight
@Tech apps no ur right I'm a big idiot u can have the win đ
Gustafsson vs Jones would be a better one. Much more controversy over the result and that was also when DC was still hated by the fans. Gus vs DC is an underrated fight though.
@@madgavin7568 dc fight Was closer
You're ignoring the submission attempt that basically resulted in Hendrix tapping out! And to the judges saw that
It was an extremely close fight, the only reason there was so much drama around it was because Goerges was such a dominant champion for so long and his pretty sensitive skin (he's fairly prone to showing damage, unlike someone like BJ Penn) making it look like he took a more one sided beating than he really did.
I do think it's really funny and perhaps a bit telling that many of the people that defend Hendricks over this fight have a the "you gotta beat the champ to be the champ" attitude about Jon Jones' close fights and many of the people that defend GSP winning this fight think Jon lost to Reyes
Jones definitely lost to Reyes, and a good argument can be made that GSP lost this fight as well. But the fact Hendricks won the belt anyway afterwards and began to decline after USADA came along makes it less controversial in hindsight. Meanwhile poor Dominick Reyes is on a two fight skid with two brutal KO losses while never officially winning the belt or getting a chance to run it back with Jones, who like the insecure narcissist he is still maintains he won it fair and square.
@@madgavin7568 I don't disagree, I actually think Jon lost his last 2
@@nicholascole9673 I mean I think he beat Santos, but it was such a poor showing from Jones to win a close split decision against a guy who blew out his knee mid-fight. A younger, juicy Jones would have beaten Santos without too much trouble.
Doesn't help that the win for Jones aged like milk.
I think he could of beat Santos but he coasted assuming he'd win, which I guess he was right but I don't think he actually did enough to win
How would you know what other people are thinking? Sounds like you're projecting and of course Con Jones lost the Reyes fight. It don't make any sense to start comparing other fights if we are talking about one fight here
Yes! This is the one I have been wanting.
In real time, the judges can't easily count the heavy attack and medium attack accurately as you did through slow motion. So going by what I see in the first round from this video - I think the first round could have gone either way. GSP landed more strikes 29-28. In real time judges could have missed a few of those knee strikes to the legs during grappling exchange. Also in grappling exchange they both had 1 takedown each with GSP trying to utilize his position with a couple of submission attempts that could have caught the eye of the judges.
So when there is nothing much to separate the two fighters, the Champions get the benefit of doubt. This is in no way a robbery my friend.
Perfectly said
yeah if hendricks won, i wouldnt have said it was a robbery, and its not really a robbery that gsp won
A quarter of Jonnyâs strikes were knees to the thigh and downward elbows. These kind of strikes shouldnât be weighed the same as strikes to the head. Those knees has no impact on George as he was the one pushing in the fifth round still.
I just watched this fight yesterday for the first time and was surprised you never did one of these on it
I love how you don't count the round 1 take down and guillotine for anything and yet there's literally video of Hendricks tapping to it..
Clearly the most decisive part of the round was when the fight should've been stopped.. đ
Shut up GSP Stan
Regardless of who actually won, I think we can all agree this fight was a classic and also a clear indication that GSP's dominance as champion was coming to an end. The competition was catching up to GSP and he arguably left at the right time. Hendricks did manage to win the UFC belt afterwards anyway in another all-time classic with a resurgent Robbie Lawler.
? A clear indication that Hendricks was juiced to the gills. He was singing in the corner between rounds he had more epo in his veins than blood
@@WhatAMagician I don't care about your drivelling nonsense.
@@WhatAMagician u act like GSP wasnât on something too
@@hollowpoint9865 he wasn't on anything
@@hollowpoint9865 yeah wasnât he pushing for USADA? Totally
this is the one we were all waiting for
Was bout to sleep but Weasle put out what Iâve been waiting for! Letâs see this
We're just lucky they both survived with Mario "if he dies he dies" Yamasaki reffing the fight. Lol đđđđđ
Thatâs the first thing that came to mind in the thumbnail lol
I would love to see Usman vs Colby going to 5th round.
Imagine how much it must suck to get robbed in the biggest fight of your life.
Its was razor close tho
I actually had GSP winning
You're so terrible, you can't even win after cheating đ€Łđ€Ł
I've checked the official cards. They're razor close, but GSP won three rounds. Combining that with the fact that Hendricks was juiced to the moon, this was the right call.
@@TheStraightestWhitest Damn Right! Lol GSP is so good that a juiced up Hendricks couldn't even put him out or even down like he did everyone before. GOAT!
Hendricks was pissing jet fuel I'm glad they gave it to GSP
Lmao never heard that before
You can say the same about GSP in pre usada ufc. He couldâve been natural, but with how piss poor testing was back then, you canât just say GSP was clean or not.
@@2kmichaeljordan438 He won a belt in a higher division after USADA. And he was the first fighter to push for strict drug testing. He was natty 100%.
@@TheStraightestWhitest no offense to bisping, he is a legend, but he is one of the weakest champions ever, not to mention he only has one eye
@@2kmichaeljordan438 He also did that beating someone people thought would reign for the next decade after what he did to the division. And GSP beat him coming off a massive layoff and a jump up in weight. Weak champs would be Aljo. Bisping wasn't the best Champ but he was fine.
Weasle Helwani finally bestowing his opinion on this fight
Weasle Helwani is when we get news, this is a breakdown so Weasle Thomas or Just Weasle
itâs not an opinion, he was only laying out the facts
@@jaysnk408 Soooo ....... Joe Weasle?
Great concept for a segment
Major respect to GSP for beating a roided up Hendricks at his best
Truth
Beating???
Major respect to Mario Yamasaki for not drifting into open eyed deepsleep
@@calvincalvin3132 Yes beating. GSP took over that 5th round as well which looked big in the judges eyes. Plus Johhny being roided to the gills he didnt deserve to win so im happy how it turned out.
@@Arco961 Winning the 5th round is not more important than winning any other round.
No matter how many breakdowns I see and how many times I rewatch this fight I always score it the same 3-2 Gsp
USADA won.
This. It was highly speculated that Hendricks was on the juice in this fight.
Everybody was on steroids, but post USADA Johnny Hendricks was a distaster and pre USADA, he was sending people flying across the ring with one punch.
@@Alex617x it was unreal the change he made once USADA stepped in. He was a complete different person. He was one of the more obvious ones.
@@matrix31003 him and vĂtor, but he beat GSP and Dominick Reyes beat Jon, so, goat talk is all bs, IMO.
@@Alex617x Yes but Hendricks win is tainted. You said so yourself. It doesn't count if you cheated.
Man if Hendrix would have landed that knee FLUSH in the beginning of round 1, we would never be here today đ
Can we get a who really won for Dillishaw vs Cruz and also Dj vs Cejudo 2. Keep up the great work man.
5th round GSP had two take downs ,two head kicks ,more kicks and jabs ...he won.
You *MUST* take into the *account* of even "light" *blows* if *GSP* HAD *7* *unanswered* and his *question* *mark* *Kick* *should* be a *heavy* *attack* amd you *Must* *beat* the *champ* to *become* the *Champion* so *GSP* *wins* a *tight* *split* *decision*
We want more podcasts please! They're the BEST
Iâm gonna like before I watch cause I know the videos are fire every time
I was so damn unsure of who won while watching in a bar, my fellow Canadians were so quiet as the decision was read. I felt like he lost, but either way Hendricks would've lost a rematch
GSP ran away for 6 years. He wasnât winning a rematch. Only came back to fight a old fluke champion like Mike Bisping
I can't lie Weasle is my favorite CZcams channel, period. The GOAT!
Weasle is my favorite mma channel for sure
But of all time I think ima have to give it seththeprogrammer
@@supasik1 Seth is a king
@@TheWeasleMMA Have to disagree Weasle, Weasle = king
@@jimhendericks different genre
Weasle is a mma powerscaler
Seth is a dragon ball z and Naruto powerscaler
@@TheWeasleMMA weasle did you watch his Mike tyson vs Bruce Lee video?
Great job Weasel
Weasle is the best in the game period. Itâs obvious who is truly inside the sport, and those who merely spectate. Another great Monday night breakdown!
Would love to see the first Gus vs Jones fight
Jones 2,4,5
@@kang6914 had gus first 3. Just cause the punches seems to do more damage then jones kicks. But it was super close. Could've gone either way
@@kubobetterrelax7435 absolutely, great fight. I have it my top 5 of all time along with Usman vs Covington which I watched live.
@@kubobetterrelax7435 I never saw Jones get hurt or rocked. Gus did. Jones did more damage
@@seahawk_nation1275 Gus did more work in the first 3 rounds imo. Winning 3 rounds and it goes to a decision means you won.
At the end of the fight GSP looked like he got mauled. Jonny looked unblemished.
Hendricks must have had some serious power for the fight to be so close, but for the damage on their faces after to be so different
@@jarnold1789 it was so drastic.
All yeah! This was one of my suggestions.
Letâs gooo my most anticipated youtube vid of all time lmao
i had GSP winning 3 rounds live.
i havent watched yet.
just got my popcorn.
cheers
GSP the master of looking like heâs winning rounds decision play it safe man. Great athlete, not close to GOAT Fighter.
@@charles-ll2ne not even close?
GSP won, because he wins +3 points fighting a juiced fighter. End of discussion !
No matter how you put it wanna be expert can talk the 2 real expert said 3-2 GSP
The goat. TheWeasle
Great breakdown Weasle but I do have a question. Shouldn't heavy strikes count for more points? I feel like just tallying the strikes up per round and counting heavy and light strikes is harder to gauge how the round went.
If this was a real fight then GSP would finish Hendricks with a grounded knee in round 5.
Yea well unified rules are applied to all sports but I agree if this was a legitimate fight (with Hendricks without the juice he clearly needed) then GSP would have won more clearly*
If Hendricks had wings he would fly
If my grandma had wheels she would be a bike.
Hell yes, I love these videos!
Have you ever considered a series similar to this but something like "was it early/was it late" looking at controversial stoppages?
I was waiting for this video!!, lovinâ the vids!!
Thanks man!
Thanks; great content as always. I'm a huge fan of St Pierre, but, at the time, I thought Hendricks won. I was amazed that St Pierre survived the damage he took, and very impressed that he was able to continue to fight effectively (even more impressive if Hendricks was using PEDs). I thought Hendricks was robbed, and it was yet another example of judges favouring a popular Champion over the challenger. That said, still a huge fan of St Pierre; he's a class act.
Hey hey, the first ufc even i watched that got me into fighting
this man needs to be a judge
I totally agree with you on this one! Hendricks was throwing beautiful combinations that really hurt George.
In George's post fight interview he said, when asked a question,
"I just came out of a freaking war, that guy hit like a truck, my brain got bashed left + right inside my skull."
It's almost never that you hear a fighter that won give such praise to their opponent in such an honest + complete manner.
GSP, I believe, is one of the most humble, respected, + great fighters in UFC history.
Johnny Hendricks is a cop in Texas.
Johnny Hendricks is the most underrated fighter who fought in the UFC
Who was really winning before the finish, Usman or Covington??
Who cares? Usman won definitively?
I had it 38 - 38 going into the 5th
Everyone should rewatch R2 as that was closer than I think people realize. Hendricks only had a minute and a half of big strikes and the rest was Georges landing power jabs, Head kicks and Really good Overhand's. That round could have honestly went either way too. Hendricks only wobbled georges but he never dropped him.
Hendricks won clearly won rounds 1, 2, and 4. Damage trumps volume.
You are the best MMA breakdown guy on planet.
Weasle you missed a kick in the first second of the fight.
The way you score fights inaccurately is hilarious.
Hey Weasle, thanks for your videos once again ! Could you tell us how you think O'malley would do against the current bantamweight's top 15?
One question though, you showed that the old rules stated that if a round was affected more by striking, the striking would weight more heavily, and the same for grappling, but if that is the case, then why the hell so many times back in the day a fighter stole a round by getting a takedown despite getting outstruck for the majority of the round? That would be contradictory to the rules
Hendricks never deserved to win when heâs on the roids and using an IV to rehydrate making him fight with a massive weight advantage.
Sure guy. Tell yourself w/e you have to.
Conor McGregor used IVs to rehydrate in order to reach featherweight so should his accomplishments also be null?
Gsp was a steroid user lol tf?
@@intellectic9155 Hendricks admitted that the IV "bought me back to life" after his weight cuts. After those went away, he could never recover from his tough weight cuts.
Yes and GSP is the all time clean athlete. Lets just forget the HGH injection marks that would appear on his stomach.
Lawler vs Condit next or Masvidal vs Iaquinta
Interesting picks
Johnson vs Cejudo 2 please!!
Masvidal vs Iaquinta would be another fun one
Love your analysis, Weasle! Thanks so much for all the amazing MMA content! đđđ»
About time he did this one.
For those saying debtating who was on steroids, remember UFC 217. Both of them fought their last fight that night in the Post USADA era. The result speaks for themselves
Gsp came back and got the 185 strap
@@fmraene3010 so what GSP has fought 1 time since usada came a thing and it was a against a very small 185er in michael bisping
Decided to take my own advice and rewatch the first round, use slo mo where needed, and have the COMMENTARY MUTED. My unemotional take (full disclosure, was never a big fan of Hendricks and respect what GSP did in his career.) of what i sawâŠ
Strikes while grappling (95% of Hendricks total strikes,60% of GSPs) were fairly even and more annoying than hurtful, with exception of the good elbows by Hendricks against the fence while GSP was bent over trying to lift him).
Strikes at distance (5% of Hendricks, 40% of GSPs) were mostly touches, with one hook by Hendricks the only significant one, while GSP landed a couple of good kicks and with 1:30 to go stunned Hendricks with a check left hook. Never noticed before, but in slo mo you can see Hendricks stumble forward awkwardly for a brief moment and his trailing left foot and ankle bend "wobbly" as he regained his bearings.
Takedown by Hendricks was a gentle leg lift sit down type on the fence. GSPs takedown was a quick and forceful one, then a sub attempt, then as Hendricks was getting up GSP quickly flipped him back down and attacked the neck again.
Summary,
Hendricks had three positive moments (one hook/good succession of elbows, and a minor take or sit down).
GSP had three positive moments (explosive takedown, sub attempt, adjust to put Hendricks back down and another sub attempt/dangerous head kick partially blocked/check hook that stunned Hendricks momentarily.)
Really close round, and i would give it to GSP as his takedown and sub attempts were much better and more dangerous than Hendrick's sit/take down, the elbows by Hendricks and his hook sort of evened out with GSPs dominance in distance fighting with head/body kicks and the solid left check hook, number of strikes period were basically even, and GSP had both more octagon control and aggression overall.
I see it as GSP 10-9. (I do understand my synopsis and 25 cents still won't get a cup of coffee, but i did this more for myself to put facts into my head instead of long ago memories of emotional reactions.)
Here's my 24 cents towards your coffee, gsp lost this fight clearly. What do we need from this fight for the future fans of the ufc to be able to appeal towards the sport? If you come up with a answer then you understand why they gave it to gsp. Stay safe đ
The series were weasel subjectively decides how hard people where hitting each other haha
Nice I always wanted to hear what another fan thinks
I know this is kind of a random fight but I'd like to see a who really won on Robbie Lawler vs Donald Cerrone. That fight was razor close
Also Carlos condit vs lawler
Nice pfp fellow Nightmare player.
When watching live, I gave it to Cerrone.
Before it startsâŠJohnny Hendricks won this fight 100%
If he proves GSP won ima laugh
@@nathanchristman6660 same before i even watch
Yo Jesse, I agree with your take on Colby Usman 1. Top 5 fight all time candidate.
hey love your channel also jesse
I personally believe that Kevin Lee won this fight
I feel like when reviewing fights this way we aren't taking into account that these exchanges look very different in real time, so I don't fault judges not seeing certain things.
This is one of the first fights I ever saw and made me a fan of the ufc
Even GSP with his fighting IQ has to know deep down in his heart that he lost
He probably would if johnny wasn't roided to the gills.
@@nathanchristman6660 GSP was juicy aswell. Everyone pre Usada was on juice.
@@nathanchristman6660 implying GSP, the guy who refused USADA testing is not on roids lmao
IM NOT KIDDING WEASLE I NEED DOMINIC CRUZ VS TJ DILLASHAW I HAVE TO KNOW.. I HAVE TO!!đđđđđđđđ
I wish you would breakdown every round in these types of videos, love your channel though
Aye I suggested this a couple days ago. Cool to see.
Clearly did more damage? Yeah hard to tell, especially in real time. The judges then looked to grappling, which showed GSP almost submitting Hendricks. A submission that was tight enough to the point that people thought Hendricks tapped. Yeah sorry, GSP had the most strikes and the better grappling. He won the round. Definitely not a robbery.
Look at his face!
@@alec1115 lol, in the context of the first round, his face looks fine. His face became swollen in rounds 2 and 4, which are the rounds he lost.
Insane. I legit watched this fight earlier today and thought, huh, I wonder what Weasel thinks about the fight? Searched your vids and saw you never made the analysis. Legit blew my mind seeing this in my recommended just now.
Edit: now the real question, if this counted as a loss on GSPs record, Jones loss to Reyes and possibly Gustafgspn, not sure how you scored that one. Regardless, if we look at every fighters record, not how it appears historically, but we fans truly view Records, (ie. Hendricks beats gsp) who is the Goat? Do GSP and Jones go lower in the discussion? Do khabib, DJ, Anderson, etc. get held in a higher regard now? Would be an awesome podcast question
@@arnoldb4526 unfortunately for fedor, his strength of schedule was not there. The other guys on the prior comment all beat much higher level competition in more competitive promotion. Thats not to say Fedor isn't great, I just don't see how he can compete with the top three from ufc
Any loss effects a fighters standing in the GOAT conversation unless its avenged. If GSP lost this fight to Hendricks then avenged it in a rematch, nothing would change. Jones has pretty much ruined his standing in the GOAT conversation with his failed drug tests, shit performances after popping and controversial decision wins which have aged like milk that he still acts like he won them fair and square.
@@arnoldb4526 meh...Fedor has a pretty identical record to Aldo, who also went on an amazing streak but you never hear anyone sing his praises these days. Fedor stayed around far too long to be considered goat.
@@arnoldb4526 but everyone was juiced to the gills in pride. Weren't you just dogging Jones for the same thing? If fedors the goat for his streak. Jones, DJ, Anderson, and Aldo, Tony ferg, Holloway are right there with him. It's not like I don't think what Fedor did is amazing, but there's plenty of people who went on equally amazing runs.
THANK YOU
Now this was the craziest 1 ive ever seen
GSP has thin skin so even light attacks appear almost heavy damage on his face. Has one hell of a chin too, GSP still outworked Hendricks but barely
Tbh these âlight, medium, heavyâ strikes were a bit sus. Not as bad as the Sandhagen vs Dillashaw vid tho
They were very close on striking, GSP beat him in grappling, so *clearly* Hendricks won?
Yea cuz he inflicted more damage with his striking then GSP with his grappeling. How is that difficult ti understand?
@@MegaZack61 that logic completely disregards almost any grappling exchanges. Submission attempts are much more significant than a heavy shot
@@creedbratton4064 did you skip the first part explaining the judging criteria. Whichever effect the round more striking or grappling will be weighed higher. This was clearly a striking round dominant round and therefore striking is weighed higher than grappling in this round.
It wasn't all that close in this round, regarding striking. Hendricks clearly won.
@@gismo3564 That line doesn't mean you disregard grapplingđ€Šđ»ââïž they were practically tied in strikes, GSP landing slightly more strikes, odd those kicks weren't counted as heavier. GSP had the grappling advantage that round. It's a very close 10-9 for GSP. These videos are cool for fights like Jones vs Reyes but once there's a bit of grappling involved these don't work as well
U fanboys twist the narrative lmaoo its so funny gsp face says it all
LETS GOOOOOO!! I was asking for this for like 16 years straight.đ€Ł Itâs been hard for me to find a full version of this fight thatâs not trash quality, so I never got to watch it. Honestly, this fight was pretty close. Everytime I heard people talk about it they made it seem like GSP got 10-8âd in every round. I wouldnât call this a robbery. (Especially bc Hendricks was almost certainly on them picogramsđ€Ł)
Have you done Lawler vs Condit? I was shocked watching it live that they gave it to Lawler
2yrs later I know but after rewatching round 1 because of your video, I disagree on some of your interpretation, GSP didnt barely win the grappling. He clearly won it ( a take down that landed hendricks flat on his back AND effectively leading to a submission attempt vs a take down on the fence where GSP fell on his butt ( due to the fence) and it didnt lead to any other grappling or submission attempt ) we have half a point for hendricks vs at the very least one and a half for gsp. As per the striking, thank to this video I payed extra attention to them inside knees (if you discard those GSP would have won the striking as well) the point is they can be hard to notice especially from where the judges are sitting. GSP won the grappling, while the striking was barely won by Hendricks, because of those knees. bottom line round could have gone either way (this is a change from my previous assessments). One thing to mention, especially in the early rounds of a championship fight, in order to win the rounds vs the champ you have to decisevely win it. As it was mentionned in other comments the fact Hendrix was the first in a long time who made GSP look bad, a lot of ppl think it was robbery. Hendricks didnt decisevely win that round, and interpretation will still split the results down the middle but in no shape or form was this a robbery, it was a close fight and the champion kept his belt nothing wrong with that.
After hearing the rules I know JH is gonna win
i disagree with how you count light v heavy strikes, leg knees on not equal body knees
who really won khabib vs gleison tibau pleassssse. that was controvesial
Legit the fight that turned me from casual to a mma junkie. I've kept taps on the sport since 2000 but this was a robbery
So by robbery u mean u think the steroid cheat should of won? đget outta here, Hendricks was juiced to the gills
@@undisputedalan4774 ye the roids is cheating but GSP lost that fight , its UFC/USADA fault that hendricks still could fight
How are we to know how Hendricks would of perform if he hadnât been on peds. GSP gave him a close fight and he wasnât on roids. Imagine if they had been on an even playing field. My money is on GSP all day. Therefore, this is not a robbery.
@@undisputedalan4774 absolutely. This dude is either living in the past or canât accept that things arenât always how they look
If you think itâs a robbery you still a casual.
idk why people are ragging on hendricks, imo everyone is on the sauce, mostly even today, hendricks was just more obvious
How was he more obvious? He was always undisciplined but made up for it with the IV hydration. If anything GSP looked more on the sauce than Hendricks. Did you see GSP kneeling down begging for a title fight against Hughes back in the day? Look at the boulder delts that he had as well as his HGH gut
When GSP locked the guillotine on initially, Johnny Hendricks tapped. The referee did not see it and GSP let go prematurely, that is the closest the flight was to being stopped. That's why I think the judges gave it to GSP
Yeah i remember that, alot of people were screaming at the bar that night over this
Looked like he was about to tap but didn't commit to it. GSP pulled his arm out right as he was about to tap. Bad move by GSP.
wait, but given the slight edge in GSP's grappling and how close was the striking (1 strike apart, even tho Hendricks landed couple more damaging blows), shouldnt it be a 10-10 and therefore a draw?