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Spyderco Smock - FINE! You were right!!!
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- čas přidán 25. 02. 2020
- Spyderco's Smock is back in stock! And it rhymes! And it's better than I thought.
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Great video. The Smock has grown on me too. One point to make is that the double detent serves a purpose and is NOT for legality reasons, and I don’t think they meant for it to be removed. The second detent is meant to keep the blade from bouncing out when dropping shut, like the PM2 is prone to. I think it is an excellent design consideration. None of these knives, including Axis Lock BM knives, were meant to be flicked out while holding the button. People may think it’s fun if they are more about fidget than use, but that deployment is the main reason people are breaking the omega springs on their axis locks. Obviously that’s not an issue for this knife, but for me, the secure close without bounce-out is much more functionally important than pretending I have an auto and swinging the blade out from closed. It shoots out very well using the intended deployment methods with the hole or flipper. Sometimes incorrect info gets promulgated from reviewer to reviewer, so hopefully this is viewed as helpful. Keep up the great work!
very annoying when lanyard holes take priority over reasonable carry
The fidget factor of this knife after you remove the 2nd detent ball and spring is legendary. Outside of that, the knife is just pretty good. I had to do quite a few minor mods (deep carry clip being the most important) to get it where I wanted it, but now it is hard to replace in my pocket.
I love my Smock blade shape, and grip are a little wierd but its just so much fun. And this is actually my first peel ply carbon from Spyderco and I really like it. Its alot more textured/grippy than I thought it would be.
This is my favorite knife I like how it feels in my hand at first I didn't like it then when I got it it became my go to knife
Nice to see you finally came to your senses about the Smock lol I love mine so much that I put aftermarket Ti hardware on it as well as Ti scales. The Ti scales came without the holes but I liked the holes in the stock scales so I machined them on the Ti scales myself to make it more like the SK23
Hey bud where'd you get Ti scales without the holes I'm actually not a huge fan of the whole "Speed Hole" trend that's been going on lately.
@@frankiejdwm_edc1037 www.reylight.net/product/titanium-scale-for-spyderco-smock/
Here ya go my dude! They come from China so it'll be a bit of a wait but it's well worth it in my opinion.
@@reddog1410 DID NOT know about these! Thanks! 👍⚔️
@@AtheistLuvXmas anytime my dude! I don't mind the peel ply CF but I don't love it either so I upgraded and I'm happy to help others upgrade too.
@@reddog1410 Yeah, I don't really mind the peel-ply either. Actually, I kind of *like* it, honestly. But I can't seem to stop myself from tinkering and upgrading my knives if the possibility exist. 😂
Thanks for the review. Added a deep carry Ti clip and love mine. I got the M390 and I know there is an S30V and M4 now shipping. It is a great fidget knife, maybe Spyderco's best in that regard and it is a slicer.
The Smock still gets some flack. Fair enough. Do like mine. Love the diversity of choices Spyderco offers.
Love the choil. I can't see why anyone would hate it.
One of the knives that makes the impression like ... 'Oh, we forgot about the clip again. Let's quickly find a place where it still fits ... there you go!. Surely nobody will notice that we put it on after the the MRR'
You nailed it. Great review. The deep carry clip is a must. Also the front finger choil needs to be rounded just a bit more. Maybe just a little deeper and rounded to protect you finger. It sure is a fun, fidget friendly blade and I love for button compression lock.
Just ordered one too when i saw they came back in stock, looks pretty cool, excited to get my hands on it.
I bought one and have no regrets
Wish Spyderco would use the wire clip alot more l totally agree first thing l did was put a black MXG deep Carry on my Black Yo2
DAVID YOHO people are literally making a living off of their mistakes- lynch clips are more prevalent than a real Spyderco clip .., and scales are so basic and they know we swap them out for an upgrade so we should get a lower price if they know we have to cash out to make it better every time
Congrats on reaching 12.5K. I’m really enjoying the channel. We seem to have similar taste in knives so I’m digging the variety you’re reviewing. Keep up the hard work.
I couldn't get past the big blade cut-out for the button lock, sold it.
hondasaki900 I altered mine and made it usable. I made it semi circle shaped with a dremel like it should have been in the first place. It’s an actual finger choil now. Love it.
@@jagpilotohio Do you have pics? Would love to see it! Might do it to mine too
Joel Esposito here you go. I made a mini video. It obviously doesn’t show me actually doing the work, but it shows the result. I modified it a day after I received it. It’s one of my favorite carry knives. Awesome fidget factor and carries very slim.
czcams.com/video/UfUkNkRdi2o/video.html
@@jagpilotohio So much better! Thanks for passing that on
Joel Esposito you’re welcome. Just go slow with a steady hand. I do professional home renovation and am super comfortable with tools, but just be deliberate and it’s not too hard. They really should alter them at the factory. It’s so much better.
Man I wanted to love the smock, had one on preorder for over a year. Got it and meh, it was quick to go. Don't miss it honestly, so many other options I personally like better
I wouldn't mind that flipper tab on other blades, that or the lighter wheel
Preproto ...I just really like the button lock. There aren’t a whole bunch of knives out there that feature that...
You're right about why there's a second detent, it's the button so it kinda functions as a gravity knife which is illegal where I'm from (Canada) so I'm pretty glad there's that second ball in there
I'm currently waiting for my 20CV version to show up. I handled this knife at the Spyderco FOS
the last time I was in Golden, CO and liked it enough. Have a deep carry clip waiting already too!
Ps I picked one up this week and its in my top 3 favorites, if it was lighter it would be #1
Until recently repealed, NYC city law prohibit knives that can be deployed by gravity with a push of a button. I think there might be other states that have this same law. Weirdly enough, axis and compression locks do not fit into this category because they are not actuated by a button. But this is all moot now as stated earlier, knives that can be deployed by gravity or centripetal force can be concealed carry legally in public areas except in buses or trains.
Just got one and can deploy it 11 different ways. Great knife and super sharp out the box
Just ordered one last night. been waiting for them to be back in stock.
4 years on and they’ve finally CQIed the Smock. It has a nice big fancy pivot screw now…
I got one and found out the hard way cause my aftermarket scales didn't work with new pivot hardware smh
@@andrewshin4688You can either wait for aftermarket scales to accommodate the new pivot. Shouldn’t be long I don’t think or alternatively you can buy the old pivot screws and use them with existing scales. They are interchangeable.
Such an entertaining knife to play with. The lanyard hole is terrible.
When I first saw this knife I thought it looked super weird. It has really grown on me though. Thanks for the discount code.
it's amazing to see the overall reviewing community sort of diss this knife, while the spydie chef usually gets
unfailing fawning. what really counts in ANY knife is DOES IT FIT THE OWNER. by the way, i have both and absolutely love them. a great review as always, however!
Love the smock. Too many holes of different sizes with that sideways open mouthed face on the lanyard... look at the butt, there’s a face there as Spyderco always does and if you see it, you can’t unsee it. Also, it needs a clip out of the box, scales out of the box , and tiiiiiiny little pivot and t6 screws. The screws are the same screws on a rat 1. Those are budget screws and a budget clip on the higher end models now ???? And they made the prices higher... such a good knife but sooooo many “misses,” in my personal opinion. After you’re done with the upgrades, you’re knocking on midtech prices is all I’m saying. I love Spyderco but had to pump the brakes the FIRST time they increased the prices on the paramilitary ... then they kept going and going and I had to stop ✋. For the same price, there are other things it there for the same price. I love the smock, spydiechef and the nirvana but they’re all overpriced in my personal opinion. Hard to swallow the price when there’s more value being offered in so many other places. Please Spyderco , either increase QC and then increase prices, or give us more for the money or they will be left in the dust in a few years. Don’t block me Brian!! I promise I’m not trying to be negative !!!! I just have to express the opinion - love them, but hate the price for the value🤷🏻♂️.
I prefer the standard pocket clip because it doesn't hurt to see it get all scuffed up and bent plus I could always buy a lynch/deep carry after I thrash the standard one
Cool looking knife, but not for me! I’m not just sayin that because I can’t afford it either! Always appreciate the reviews Bryan, and Thank you for the package, received it today! The Tighe is my first ever CRKT, and I have to say, for a budget knife it’s pretty cool! Very sharp for 8Cr as well! I will be carrying it as a backup for a while so I can really put it to the test! 👍🏻
The built in can opener is a nice feature
It looks a lot more fidgety by taking that extra detent ball out. I’m happy for you ...now you can experience the Smock. I really miss mine after giving it away. Need to buy it again...lol.
Thank you! it's good to have some validation from time to time
I love my Spyderco Reinhold-Rhino
Nice review sir
It's a great knife with a top 10 fidget factor. My only issue is that it sucks at cutting boxes due to everything sliding into that finger choil or whatever area
Did you consider modifying the shape and depth of the finger Choil to make it more useful? It seems as though it would make more sense as a fully committed choil rather than just a necessary cutout for the button.
Great knife. Not the most beautiful but it’s very functional. I don’t like the pocket clip either. My hands are pretty kalliste so the peel ply stuff tends to be slick in my hands. It is a great slicer though. Thanks Brian and congrats on the 12,5 subs. Glad to have been here to see your channel grow
Why doesn't someone make a pocket clip with a pin that fits in the lanyard hole. No need to use both lanyard and pocket clip at the same time, or make the pin hollow and then best of both worlds. You end up with a deep carry clip and lanyard hole.
I believe the stock Spyderco clip allows for a strong and more confidence inspiring grip and carry while opening and closing the knife. Although it’s easy (and fun as hell) to manipulate, a wire clip tends to flex a lot more and would in my opinion make this knife unsafe or at the very least awkward to fidget with.
Plus you can switch it out for Lynch clips now which the wire clip would have made impossible
Nice that it has so many deployment options, but it's still not for me. Not a fan of the whole holes in the handle thing. I like that it has a straight back, but the flat slabs of g10 look like they wouldn't be comfortable for extended or hard use (I haven't handled one though).
Great video. Really enjoying your stuff. What's your thoughts on the Amalgam. I love mine but it seemed to fly under the radar.
Held one at the Spyderco Factory store a couple days after they came out. Didn't like it. I bought a PM2 instead and don't regret my decision.
Do you not find that the button should be a little further recessed? In other words, It probably wouldn't accidentally get pushed while wrestling alligators and things of the sort. I haven't handled one, but I heard Nick (or Cleary) say something about wishing that it protruded less. It's also come to my attention that the button lock is quite lefty friendly. So I'm debating on getting either this, or the Super Freek!
Taichung for the win
So glad you enjoy it Bryan ... Once again another stellar review 💪👊
I like my but I think it could use some texturing on the flipper.
As someone who owns multiple $200 to $300 knives what do you think about not buying say two or three knives and using that money to buy one high end knife? is it worth it or will the high-end knife not scratch that itch just like every other knife lol?
I waited a long time to get this knife due to availability. I finally got one recently. I really wanted to love this knife. I think I love the theory of it, but I find it physically revolting. There is no natural way to hold this for cutting. The forward choil is too small and sharp. The rear choil is too far back. The place where the optimal choil should be is so blocky that its uncomfortable. The Spydie hole is 1/4 obscured by the scales making it hard to access with man-sized fingers. This is nothing my than a high price fidget piece.
The Taiwanese Spydercos have the coolest designs I've ever seen.
You need to catch a carribean and rit dye it purple. You'll love it. Sheepsfoot
Hey I’m thinking about buying this knife do you recommend this knife and what is different clips that I can buy
I’ve seen more modded models of this knife lately than any other spyderco
Why does everything look bigger on youtube?..This is the seventh time ive bought a knife and its way smaller than i thought itd be...Great vid
maybe you have way bigger hands than knives reviewers?
I want one of these so bad, but justify the price. I'd be afraid to ruin it.
it's an interesting knife, but i've always wanted a spydiechef. I think i should...
Safety reason for the detent ball
That looks about as comfortable to hold as a sock full of tacks.
I think the 2nd detent is to make it legal in states that are lame aka caifornia
Yes finally!
The Smock looks like an after though in every aspect. It is like mod work on a based knives and it it hideously put together. Don't judge me, it is just my opinion, for those that enjoy it, more power to you. Anyway, opinion are like armpits, everyone have a couple of them.
It's weird looking 🤔. I get the hype because it looks superbly built, like most Spyderco products. Just not my style 🤷🏾♂️. Maybe it'll grow on me because, for some reason I really dig the Spydiechef.
I want to like the Smock but I can't. The handle is weird and pointy, way too long just because Spyderco *needs* lanyard tubes for whatever reason, weird reverse tanto blade instead of the more wharncliffe-y style of the SK23, kinda weird blade grind, and the spoon clip.
I might still get it for fidget reasons, but the Drop Mordax also exists, so...
I really really like everything about Smock's SK-23. The Spyderco Smock is a total miss for me.
Dang, video posted 8 minutes ago and Southern Edge has none left. Unless I’m doing something wrong (with my search?). Oh, well.
I think they actually sold out in the hours between me recording and posting, but more are coming.
25 otw those bad boys sold out quick as all get out 💥🔥👍
MichaelJanichchangedmymind aboutalwaysneeding a deepcarry clip. It sureis nice to grab my knife without reaching in mypocket sometimes and most myshirts touchthe tops of my pocket except on crop shirt days!
Kevin Smock is dead set against deep carry pocket clips and by inference wire clips as well. If you talk to him about it he is not ashamed to voice his opinions, inspite of the many requests for a deep carry on this Spyderco.. His answer is to ADD to the price of an already expensive knife by the purchaser buying an aftermarket clip.
I don't understand. Do people really grip the end of the handle to pull the knife?? If you do you end up pinching the back of the handle and have to change grip before opening and using the knife. B t w which the same reason I don't understand wave features, but that's another topic. Great review! That choils kills it for me though. You are more or less forced to use it. That's why I don't like forward choils.
Do you prefer the smock or the ikuchi?
Different horses for different courses.
Do you still have it? Want to know if it’s a keeper.
Yep. Has custom scales on it now.
Thanks for the review. I’m torn between the Smock, Shaman, or an auto such as the Benchmade Casbah or Spyderco Autonomy. Suggestions?
Autonomy 2 is a great auto and no worries about corrosion
Poet Fisherman oh snap I forgot about that. What other Spyderco does it compare to in size? This has gone to the top of my list.
@@captainskippy6622 it's between the Manix 2 and Manix 2 XL with thicker scales and slightly more weight than either. It's a very good knife as knives go and a very good auto as autos go. Love that the spring mechanism is removable / replaceable without disassembling the rest of the piece.
I wanted to love this knife because it was such a good action, but the blade shape is just.. No. I wish it would have been Full height grind, deep carry and NO CHOIL.
That choil could have been changed to improve it. BWL has a button compression lock PM2 without "choil clearance", why couldn't they have did the same thing?
Soyderco Sebenza?
cant find it on sekw
It sold out but more are coming.
@@SliceyDicey gotcha so i assume it sales out they dont have like link to it anymore cause i couldnt find anything on the site, trust me i wanna spend some moneyz
The smock or the ikuchi?
Ikuchi for me.
Slicey Dicey definitely value your opinion was leaning towards the ikuchi, you sealed the deal for me!
Smock, much like o'doyle ..... Rules.
The rare Spyderco ergonomic fail (for me). That’s because they stayed faithful to Smock's designs.
I was really looking forward to it when it was announced, then it took way too long. Once it finally came out, I was disappointed and passed. They need to use the wire clip more or try something new.
Plenty pricey . I will pass
Told u so.
Lit
My god the southern edge knife works web site is atrocious. The search function is terrible, there are no descriptions on the knives. Wow. Crap. I bailed out after 2 minutes of aggravation.
It would be illegal in Canada without that serving detent. Illogical knife laws ftw
I think you crashed their site by sending people there lol
Knock, knock.
Who's there?
Obligatory "Spyderco's prices have gone the plaid" comment.
:|
totally disgree about the ergos. How a knife fits the hand is entirely personal. The Smock fits my hand petfectly. So sad for you.😢
Looks like an awesome knife I’ll have to pick one up ... ugh I gotta get off CZcams I can’t take any more damn political adverts for “universal healthcare could raise your taxes “
Casey Tyler what device are you usually watching CZcams videos on? You shouldn’t have to deal with that garbage. I’d be happy to share my adblocker options with you so that you won’t have to be subjected to crap ads (especially those that completely don’t understand who you really are).
attic42 iPhone normally ads are fine but since it’s voting season ads suck lol
Weird. I removed political ads, but they may be back with the new Studio update. I'll look into it.
Casey Tyler try the Luna app (Luna: Best VPN for iPhone). I’ve had amazing results with it. Just start it up and you should be good to go. As someone who switched back to iOS from Android (after many years), I was impressed to learn that there were Android-level blockers available on iOS. And if you use Chrome on your computer, get uBlock Origin as a Chrome ad on in the Chrome Web Store.
I just pay $9.99 a month no ads google music plus much more. I forgot CZcams has adds
Sorry, but I don't like it & cancelled my order.
Reasons:- ugly blade cut out for button
Pocket clip ...obvious reasons
Overall not a stand-out design
Expensive
Not really in love with blade shape and edge to handle ratio
I'm waiting for the Watu.
For that price I want real carbon fiber. Those scales looks cheap.
Button is stupid, hard grip during hard use it unlocks.
It's ugly.. and over priced like usual
All Spydercos are overpriced. Change my mind