Juiced Retrospective | The 2005 Cult Classic Lost in the Shadow of the Black Box Era

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  • čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
  • Let's head back to 2005, the golden era of Need for Speed...to look at one of its biggest competitors. Juiced may have not made the splash that UG2 and Most Wanted did, but is it still good enough to play in 2023?
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  • @ami_87
    @ami_87 Před 11 měsíci +439

    I love that it has the balls to present you with tough choices and take away your car if you muck up.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 Před 11 měsíci +74

      I miss that hardcore aspect in racing games in general. Instead, every modern racing game is afraid of adding that risk vs. reward factor, which is weird considering how popular souls games are.

    • @Pepe2708
      @Pepe2708 Před 11 měsíci +6

      @@shawklan27 That's the main thing I really loved about NFS Heat.

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 Před 10 měsíci +14

      @@Pepe2708 true but I found that even most wanted is more harsh considering your car can compounded if you get caught too much. In heat you just lose the rep and money you earnt that night which feels more annoying than anything.

    • @Pepe2708
      @Pepe2708 Před 10 měsíci +8

      @@shawklan27 You had to get caught quite a lot for that to happen (3 times + markers), but I see your point.

    • @Ciqaeda
      @Ciqaeda Před 10 měsíci +1

      Emulation Save States ;)

  • @Wanabers
    @Wanabers Před 10 měsíci +51

    I was one of the QA Leads for this game when we took this over at THQ. It was one of my shortest projects, but i just remember having so much fun with it. I couldn't believe how bad it was when we first got it. The dev team did an amazing job at fixing it up in such a short period of time. It's also a shame it didn't release with it's original soundtrack.

    • @TheDangerZone86
      @TheDangerZone86 Před 8 měsíci

      Is there any way to play it on PC without a 🏴‍☠️ version?

    • @Gryzlek
      @Gryzlek Před 5 měsíci

      just pirate it pussc

    • @AlvoGTR
      @AlvoGTR Před 2 měsíci +1

      what did the OG soundtrack have in store for us?

    • @Tiamatria1
      @Tiamatria1 Před měsícem

      I’m playing it now, there are a few cars that are completely unable to receive prototype parts because the only sponsored races are class 7.

  • @SCREAMILLUSION
    @SCREAMILLUSION Před 11 měsíci +52

    I love the horn mechanic of how it can make them crash out etc lol.

  • @Varinius
    @Varinius Před 11 měsíci +231

    Juiced was my favourite alongside NFS U2 and MW, so underrated. Though the sequel lost a lot of the appeal imo.

    • @ileutur6863
      @ileutur6863 Před 11 měsíci +17

      Lost appeal? It looked and played better, with much more options for customization

    • @Varinius
      @Varinius Před 11 měsíci +49

      @@ileutur6863 it was less realistic more arcadey with more cringe characters and themes
      Dumbed down from the original identity to appeal to a wider audience, losing its character

    • @xXVibrantSnowXx
      @xXVibrantSnowXx Před 11 měsíci +8

      Yes but also no, i prefer Juiced 2 as well, more cars & customization, and it had Cockpit View, Better graphics, Better drift mode & online mode, , only downside for me is that the women that are thrown everywhere + speed feel was less appealing compared to first one @@Varinius

    • @iDriveDaily
      @iDriveDaily Před 10 měsíci +12

      I agree. While Juiced 2 had a great car list, good customization and I liked the story premise, even if it became a dull grind, the wonky "super-arcade" physics became a huge detriment once you got into League 3 cars. NFS, MC and SRS all had better arcade physics. Sure the graphics were better in 2 and even hold up pretty well today, but it was also a PS3 v PS2 release. Juiced 1 looks on par with its contemporary counterparts. In addition, many of the tracks in Juiced 2 were down right stupid, giving a "Monday, Monday, Monday" monster trucks vibe the entire time, not something I think was even popular in 2007. The DNA thing was cool, but no matter how I drove, it always looked the same. For all it's faults, Juiced 1 still had a better car list and variety than any NFS offering at the time and had many features that other games just weren't offering.

    • @JDMHMONGBOY96
      @JDMHMONGBOY96 Před 10 měsíci

      @@ileutur6863HUH? Played better and looked better? I was 11 years old when juiced 2 came out, I even knew the game was trash back then 😂 the only hype for it was that it was on Hot Import Night’s nuts lol HIN was big back then

  • @GRIMEYtheFATMAN
    @GRIMEYtheFATMAN Před 11 měsíci +106

    Ride height actually did affect handling, specifically travel/compliance. While it's not very noticeable on FWD and AWD cars, it can make a world of difference on RWD cars, especially on bumpy sweepers. While how low you could get away with and still be driveable varied by car, it's generally a good idea to keep the slider out of the lowest 4th or 5th of its range...

    • @mattizie91
      @mattizie91 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Not just ride height, but the bodykit and specifically spoilers make a HUGE difference. It's even possible to set up cars that you can actually CONTROL and counter steer to recover from slides/drifts by purposefully removing the rear wing altogether. Do that and all of a sudden if you enter the corner right, you can sail through it with little to no steering input in a constant slide. Getting it right is the most rewarding feeling from any racing game I've ever played.

    • @TheSilverShadow17
      @TheSilverShadow17 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@mattizie91That's not how downforce physics work, you can't expect to enter corners at fast speed without a form of load on the rear wheels on RWD cars especially aerodynamic load

  • @LwL_
    @LwL_ Před 11 měsíci +97

    Man I loved this as a kid. Never actually managed to complete it either, just spent probably over a hundred hours in the campaign gaining and losing rep without real progress, but the racing was fun.
    I even managed to lose so many vipers in pink slip races (thanks to them spinning out so easily) that apparently I maxed out some sort of internal counter and the car dealer no longer had any vipers to sell. Which is basically when I stopped playing because everything was a class 1 race and other cars weren't really viable.
    I should really get around to replaying this at some point.

    • @99worldz
      @99worldz Před 2 měsíci

      hahaa same as me, I really had no idea back then especially my english is not there when I was kid, but I manage to reach impreza class, after that I ran out money of repairing and cant win any race then I threw the game hahaha, now I replay it again and man the control still hard for me

  • @takashimatta
    @takashimatta Před 11 měsíci +90

    Back then playing on PS2, this, Street Racing Syndicate, and Fast & Furious Tokyo Drift, literally shaped my childhood. Ofc the old NFS titles like Underground 2 and Most Wanted too, but Juiced is on another level. Bets, Pink Slips, Opponents that we can see and interact with. This game is seriously underrated. Physics could’ve been a little bit better though.

    • @FriendlyHomie
      @FriendlyHomie Před 10 měsíci +4

      It was all about Juiced and Midnight Club LA for me

  • @shawklan27
    @shawklan27 Před 11 měsíci +46

    This game's soundtrack is definitely goated that without it I wouldn't have enjoyed it has much. So many vibes with that one despite me first playing it this year.

    • @adlibbed2138
      @adlibbed2138 Před 10 měsíci +5

      I haven't played the game myself but to having Paul Oakenfold's Ready Steady Go in your obscure import tuner racing game sure made it punches above it's weight to the competition in terms of soundtrack, and being the only game of it's kind to having it is a huge bonus as well

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 Před 10 měsíci

      @@adlibbed2138 the soundtrack has that ps2 vibes of the likes of midnight club and persona that enhances the gameplay experience

    • @0uttaS1TE
      @0uttaS1TE Před 10 měsíci +3

      ​@shawklan27 Honestly, this game is above Most Wanted for me in terms of the OST

    • @shawklan27
      @shawklan27 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@0uttaS1TE word more variety than mw plus it has club foot in it enough said. Any racing game that includes that song is goated in my eyes.

    • @MidnightApex-ml6jc
      @MidnightApex-ml6jc Před 2 měsíci

      @@0uttaS1TE MC2 and 3 as well

  • @_N1GHTMAR3_
    @_N1GHTMAR3_ Před 10 měsíci +41

    This is one of the best videos I've seen covering Juiced. I wanted to add a few notes to some topics you covered:
    3:27 Juiced is still playable online today with an edit to the game's .exe. I made a tool called Juiced Editor that can patch online play in with a few clicks. You can do crew races, showoffs, and even pink slips against other players. Admittedly the game's community is dormant at the moment, but occasionally we get together and host some events.
    4:38 An additional fun fact on top of that: some of the race routes on the world map don't actually match the in-game routes, most notably with West Anderson.
    27:24 You can skip these pink slips by accepting their offer, and backing out at the screen right before the Mustang loading screen (the one with the six grid spots). You won't lose your car or any respect - all that happens is that the race is recorded as a loss in your stats, which most people will overlook anyways.
    I've also experimented with an .exe patch that disables the pink slip calls entirely, which I'll implement into a future version of Juiced Editor if things work out.
    28:21 This sounds like you rejected a host challenge from Carlos, and not a pink slip. Rejecting a host challenge will always cut your respect down to below the host privilege threshold (around 8-900), so I'm assuming you had about 1,2-1,300 respect at the time. Carlos does not penalize you for rejecting pink slips more than any other rival.
    28:41 You can skip days in the calendar if you want to cycle to a certain event. The button for it is shown at the bottom.
    29:06 Showoffs actually have more complexity than you might have realized. There's an assortment of combo moves in the game that encourage you to string certain combinations of tricks with huge point bonuses. (You can perform a Ding Dong with a bootleg turn + 180 + J-turn + bootleg turn, for example.) Good showoff scores incorporating these can go well beyond 1,000,000 points.
    ...but I can't blame you for not catching on to these, because the game never tells you what combinations there are - not even in the tutorial. The only way you can find them besides rigorous trial and error is in the instruction manual in re-releases of the game. Showoffs can be a ton of fun, but Juice Games did a terrible job communicating one of the core facets of them.
    I'm glad you enjoyed going through Juiced, and thankful for making such a good retrospective on your experience with it. It's inspired me to get back into the game and resume some old modding projects. Keep up the great work!

    • @trentdd15
      @trentdd15 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Thank you for this comment man. I've seen videos pop up here and there of people having r34 drift battles from like 3 or 4 years ago then the videos vanished. Was wondering how people were still accessing the online mode of this game but that makes a lot of sense to me now. It's sad how little information is provided in a video format for this game period. But it's an aged racing game at this point. Just happy there's still people enjoying this game even if it's a small crowd. I'll come back to the game every year or two and still have a blast with the driving mechanics. I loved the punishing nature of this game cause it made you feel unstoppable when you go on a pink slip streak only to take one corner bad and lose your most loved car. Such a slept on game.

    • @jackkoffman5742
      @jackkoffman5742 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Hey Bud. Does the community have a discord server?

    • @_N1GHTMAR3_
      @_N1GHTMAR3_ Před 10 měsíci

      @@jackkoffman5742 Hope Hoki doesn't mind me posting it. Server code is pu2jdxR since the full link got filtered

    • @comdrive3865
      @comdrive3865 Před 10 měsíci +2

      ahhhh that's why i considered showoff the hardest mode in the game, the combos i never could do lmaoo

    • @VaporwaveVisual
      @VaporwaveVisual Před 6 měsíci

      ​@@comdrive3865What how, i can do every combo move easily like its nothing. Even as a kid (if i remember correctly now) the only move i couldnt pull off was the Boomerang lol. But on the other hand i suck at sprints i geniuly cant shift well in racing games.

  • @brandyberry14
    @brandyberry14 Před 11 měsíci +12

    2:13 "Featured a more serious and sometimes more realistic look at the street racing scene."
    *Cuts to a supra doing donuts without running over pedestians* 😅😅

  • @BoKush
    @BoKush Před 10 měsíci +5

    so happy i grew up with games like this. nothing was like the early 2000s

  • @yaya_delta530
    @yaya_delta530 Před 10 měsíci +26

    It’s so great to see bigger CZcamsrs shed some light to this game. I feel like not enough people talk about this game

  • @hsimpson1152
    @hsimpson1152 Před 10 měsíci +3

    This game was waaay ahead of it's time. It had more depth than most modern racing games and somehow the characters were less cringy that today's games. The career campaign was well thought out and executed. I wish they would make a modern version. Great review.

  • @Valntain
    @Valntain Před 10 měsíci +7

    The fact you could bet money on races and even pink slips ( 1000 hp Viper on sprint races anyone ? ) was so exciting
    Also, maybe try Racing Lagoon on ps1 ?

  • @ATomatoIsAFruit
    @ATomatoIsAFruit Před 10 měsíci +26

    Every so often I replay Juiced, and my newest finished playthrough aligns with your thoughts pretty well. I honestly think that a reimagining of Juiced's core concepts, brought with modern sensibilities and features, could leave a mark in the arcade-ish racing scene.
    My recurring complaints stem from the car handling dynamics, limited tuning and upgrading, and lack of variety in race events. Most every car requires max length gear ratios from the garage, because there's basically no other way to increase speed. Muscle cars on longer drag races get absolutely smoked by 6-speed, or even 5-speed shoeboxes. Auto transmission feels pretty awful to manage, what with massive torque losses according to the dyno, but remapping on PC is... troublesome. Then, you have a very limited variety of race layouts, only bolstered by car classes, reverse routes and maybe going in team races vs. solo.
    But I always come back to the game. It offers a more challenging, more punishing experience that has you interact with basically every system in the game, from class-specific rides to even side-bets and pink slips. Cross-crew respect gains and losses are a terrific idea, and I feel quite silly for only appreciating it after nearly 18 years instead.
    Understandably this wasn't possible at the time, from hardware limitations to budget restrictions. But if, pray tell, Juiced had a second chance at life... I'd love to see rival crews be expanded upon. Each of them have distinct liveries, interests and respect ranges. These can be bolstered by more on-screen presence of not just the crew leaders, but also of the regular members and racers. Race intros can have special cinematics depending on the team hosting the events, through a combination of flares, flags, various party accessories, people gathering around cars and performing tricks, and just the attitudes of the "main crews" and how they present themselves to the players. I recently imagine Public Chaos and Vixens as partygoers, while Wild Cats are no-nonsense racers who always stick together.
    Pushing the concept even further, how about cross-region races? It's odd how, in practice, Omega Tau and Legion share a fair chunk of races and territory in practice with no gameplay consequences. Maybe some higher-stakes races can cover two or more regions, with the participating crews being at the forefront of the race in terms of battling each other, or even in the cinematics. Maybe even have it such that the "influence" of each crew grows or diminishes based on inter-crew relationships, which get strained based on actions in a race, and especially by the results or simple existence of cross-region races. These also tackle the storyline aspect, creating a semi-randomized story where you might get a bigger focus from several crews, which always differ per playthrough, if not are influenced by the player themselves.
    Then there's the natural inclusion of traffic in higher-stakes races, a freeroam mode with roaming racers... In fact, I sometimes think how nice cruising through an opened up Angel City could be like. The game already links some regions together with modelled streets and layouts between certain races; filling in more of the space with roads and simply interesting places can do wonders.
    Juiced, I feel, deserves to be remembered and even applauded for daring to push the envelope. Modern racing games still can't quite match the stakes provided in a 2005 title. The potential for organic "storytelling" in a grounded, accessible yet challenging street racing game is through the roof. Heck, NFS can learn some lessons from Juiced - even if, 18 years ago, Juiced played second fiddle to NFS in the eyes of the public.

  • @zzzevey
    @zzzevey Před 10 měsíci +19

    im so so so happy to see juiced getting attention from someone like you, its such a good game

  • @ZeroB4NG
    @ZeroB4NG Před 11 měsíci +8

    Yo, Turn 10! Look at that CRX, it has SIDESKIRTS!!!

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      @mattvang3439 Před 3 měsíci

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  • @isellcrack3537
    @isellcrack3537 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Imo Juiced hands down has the best career mode out of all the "tuner" racing games from that era. The way events are spread throughout the calendar, the respect and betting mechanics make up for a much more immersive and exciting feel than any other game. The lack of a "restart" option contrary to most ppls expectations is also an amazing quirk is yet another thing that skyrockets the fun factor of this title.

  • @jarrodcruickshank8742
    @jarrodcruickshank8742 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Juiced WAS my Need For Speed as a kid. Also what a killer soundtrack, really sets the vibe. I love the atmosphere of this game.

  • @Fenseone
    @Fenseone Před 10 měsíci +5

    In these days where people compete online, it's crazy when I think about how my uncle was playing Juiced when I was a child. And then i started and the battle was me keeping up with him in career mode. So some days he would come to our home and see me on the PC destroying the opponents and say: " I see you grinding! Well see eachother soon." I always tought there would be an end battle or I will see him in my game when I finally catch him, how wrong I was...

  • @Balc0ra
    @Balc0ra Před 10 měsíci +4

    I could just hear the menu music at the back of my head when you showed the different modes. But I actually loved this more than the current NFS titles at the time.

  • @Kevink4240
    @Kevink4240 Před 11 měsíci +7

    OMFG!! JUICEED!! I've loved this game soo much! Dodge Viper and Corvete Z06 was a Beast! Adding team was funny , a headache or Luck! And them soundtracks! 🥲🥲❤️🤗 Highschool memories!
    Thank you!

  • @TheBlademan-
    @TheBlademan- Před 10 měsíci +4

    This is one of the few games back then that put into perspective the cost of racing cause after every event if you drove bad and you wrecked a lot the damage repair bill was higher. Made me think twice before hitting another driver

  • @Thomas-yz7lv
    @Thomas-yz7lv Před 10 měsíci +2

    i really looked for the advertisement, and when i unpaued " and now that you are back of your google search" XD
    Fantastic! i like your humor, you have my sub

  • @joshuagodin6177
    @joshuagodin6177 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Would love to see a video like this for Juiced 2: Hot Import Nights. One of my favorite racers from the late 2000's. Another one that might be interesting would be Import Tuner Challenge. Definitely worth a look in my opinion.

    • @DarrenHoussein
      @DarrenHoussein Před 10 měsíci

      Damn thats a throw back bro. Amazing game for the time.

  • @razorsz195
    @razorsz195 Před 10 měsíci +2

    A Geforce 6600GT, Athlon 64 3400+, 2005 around the corner, what a time to be alive, Of course i had a Sempron, FX 5200 and optimism, but something that new games miss and Juiced is a prime example of, is how good music choice can turn 20 minutes into 2 hours, even if the game is mediocre, good music carried the cash in titles from this era, its amazing that we almost never saw this game but i'm glad we did as it was one of the few games to focus on the UK car scene whereas the rest were clearly western driven titles. I think if it were to come back, rather than try to claw at the past, focusing on the Cash days scene, betting, slips, raw street touge and grudge racing would go straight in line with the phone calls and unique little bits of this game and if it had extensive customisation to allow for flexibility in tastes like Juiced and UG2, people could still live the old game through a successor done right, the outrageous kits, wraps, silly tints, vents and neons of the import craze.

  • @sethmoyer
    @sethmoyer Před 10 měsíci +3

    I remember playing this game and being super hyped when "Ready, Steady, Go" came on. Definitely time for a revisit

  • @ihaveacoolhat1
    @ihaveacoolhat1 Před 6 měsíci

    I was 11 when this came out. I remember reading about this mysterious street racing game in Xbox magazine with cel-shaded graphics. (It did at the time of the preview screenshots). I played the demo on that month's disk and I remember being impressed, then it completely disappeared for at least two years and we heard nothing. Juice Games was in a building about a mile away from where my house was, so it felt great to finally get my hands on it even with THQ on the cover as it was a game developed in my hometown. I feel lucky to have grown up around all of this culture. TF&TF in 2001 with that bright green Eclipse, the brown R34 GTR on the cover of NFS: Underground. Watching bootlegs of Video Option, that Signal Auto R34 video from Japan, that video where two guys showed up to a dealer on a weeknight and filmed themselves "testing" a then-new Mustang SVT "Terminator" convertible which introduced my 12 year old British brain to the sounds of supercharged 4.6 modulars. I used to be constantly scrolling our local Japanese import dealer because they had R33 GTS-Ts for £3k, which I *could definitely afford once I turned 16*. Excellent era.

  • @car-nivores
    @car-nivores Před 10 měsíci +2

    The pink slip races caused me so much stress as a kid!

  • @Crash2240
    @Crash2240 Před 9 měsíci +1

    "If I had a hat, I'd take it off!"
    Glad to see this game getting some attention and glad you've done a good breakdown of everything. A great watch!
    Also to mention, multiplayer still works for this, all you have to do is hex edit a line in the executable and you're good to go. Managed to send my copy of the game to my mates and we had an absolute blast online, was a fantastic nostalgia trip and I highly recommend it if anyone has fond memories of this classic. Cheers!

  • @saikousocial
    @saikousocial Před 11 měsíci +7

    One of my favorite games on the PS2

  • @racdude01
    @racdude01 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Juiced remains as one of the few ps2 games I own that I haven’t completed (alongside Tokyo extreme racer drift) it’s sort of the dark souls of racing games with its completely unforgiving nature and lack of any sort of do overs or retries. Loses are permanent and as a kid that drove me nuts. But now that I’m much older I should really try my hand at it again

  • @youngz1co581
    @youngz1co581 Před 10 měsíci

    I’m blessed I still have it till today this game was so underrated this game is goated I will make sure my kids in the future learn about this game and tell them this is a goated game

  • @miriciousvespyre
    @miriciousvespyre Před 10 měsíci +1

    One of my favorite racing games of all time. Had it on the OG Xbox. It also influenced me to get a 4th gen Prelude and a RX8

  • @CADcytus
    @CADcytus Před 10 měsíci +1

    I have SUPER fond memories of playing this game when I was 8 or 9, and I'm glad to see it getting some love! Awesome work on this one.

  • @realganbada
    @realganbada Před 11 měsíci +8

    i loved this Game. Late-Game was pretty difficult and i loved the Soundtrack. Sadly Juiced 2 was nice on paper, but in person it was a big mess. Sad Sad... Thanks for the Content.

  • @P_D-px6iv
    @P_D-px6iv Před 10 měsíci +1

    Definitely one of my all time favorite games and one of the first Simcades on the market. That sound track was goated I have like half the songs in my gaming playlist, Down by Law, Passion, Hurt you So, Club Foot, what you deserve, Right Now, etc

  • @roruarorua586
    @roruarorua586 Před 10 měsíci

    I was playing Juiced 2 my whole childhood, it missed some features but i still do comeback to this title every one year!

  • @tankgayle
    @tankgayle Před 10 měsíci +1

    32:50 I actually had no idea there was a way to do that or that there was any end game screen. I was late to this game and started playing it on PS2 back in 2019 out of curiosity. I loved the soundtrack, cars, and structure of the game. But once I bought my favorite cars (mostly muscle and RWD cars) , upgrades and raced most of regions in the city I thought I was done lol. Now I gotta go back just to earn the ability to Not lose respect in races 😤

  • @AkagiRedSun
    @AkagiRedSun Před 9 měsíci +1

    I remember buying this and loving till the end, good ol day where we didn’t care about game reviews for internet

  • @LoaThunder
    @LoaThunder Před 3 měsíci +1

    Really loved your review, especially when it comes to explaning all the details correctly. Something that every big reviewer usually screws up in once or twice per video. Good job dude! Subbed

  • @blackkimchi5111
    @blackkimchi5111 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Amazing soundtrack is one of the reasons this game is a core memory of my childhood, Back to Basics is such a vibe song and this game is the only reason I know of it or heard it at all in my life.

  • @arlindblaze4148
    @arlindblaze4148 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Juiced 2 was and still is one of the best racing games imo. Pink slips, drifting, circuit racing, huge car list and incredible customisation. Wish they made a comeback. Sadly, that ain’t happening.

  • @mikehyer13
    @mikehyer13 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I still have this gem in my ps2 collection and play it every now and then.

  • @Timeudeus
    @Timeudeus Před 10 měsíci

    i loved this game so much, played it the whole summer. I even made it to number 2 on the world ranking list by defeating a dev once :D

  • @StarryniteTrist
    @StarryniteTrist Před 11 měsíci +6

    Wow this was really incredible watch. Never heard of it at all but the career aspect is so deep with it's many faucets (kinda my complaint with like Horizon is the career is just basically not there, the playlist keeps me coming)

  • @swonardian342
    @swonardian342 Před 11 měsíci

    man i loved this game. thanks hoki for bringing the memories back

  • @brandonlehman7440
    @brandonlehman7440 Před 28 dny

    spent a good amount of time on this one, got up to class 5, sent back to 8 and clawed back lol. lots of depth for a racing game here, and like you said they were very aware of car culture at the time and the game is really in tune with the vibe of the car scene back then

  • @carbrand7527
    @carbrand7527 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Absolute icon and gem of an era wrapped up in a neat risk taking package.

  • @blooire
    @blooire Před 11 měsíci +2

    I still play it to this day

  • @Livnos
    @Livnos Před 10 měsíci +1

    I never played the original juiced but I did play juiced 2 and the psp version of juiced and I absolutely loved the game

  • @rick459xp2
    @rick459xp2 Před 10 měsíci

    This game was awesome , especially the pink slip races . AMAZING

  • @Simarino54
    @Simarino54 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Well, Juiced was one of the first racing games I ever bought, so nostalgia from this video hits me really hard (even though I still play it from time to time).
    As for the topics you cover, there's stuff I'd like to address, so get ready for a long ride:
    0:30 I can agree that the delay caused by the THQ takeover ruined the timing of the game's release, but honestly, had Acclaim managed to release it before going bust, it wouldn't have been nearly half as good as it turned out to be in the end (I still can't forget the cringy intro from the Acclaim version 🤮).
    3:05 Oh, you bet I did watch that ad on YT years ago, it was hilarious 😂
    3:37 The online multiplayer holds on to this day (with some workarounds regarding GameSpy, but still) and being able to bring your singleplayer career cars to online races was a great concept 🤩
    3:58 In my early years spent with this game, I didn't care much about the Arcade mode, I always chose to use the Unlock All cheat code to access all cars and tracks in the Custom Race mode. It wasn't until recently that I learned there were features that required you to complete 100% of both Arcade and Career, regardless of whether the code was used or not.
    7:29 I wouldn't classify Juiced as an arcade, it's definitely more of an early simcade. Juiced 2 on the other hand, is way more arcade (kinda like the situation with Project Cars, but the jump towards arcade doesn't hurt as much).
    8:00 As I've played Juiced on a keyboard most of the time, I found stuff like throttle management pretty much impossible to do. The only way to somehow control the RWD cars was to turn down the steering sensitivity. However, once I got used to manual shifting, I could have better control of the car in the corners.
    8:20 I can get behind that. Basically, any attempt to countersteer results in upsetting the car's balance and eventually spinning out.
    8:52 The CR-X is definitely the best starter car in this game. It has some decent power and is dirt cheap compared to the other two (206 would leave you grinding a lot for parts to become competitive, while the Beetle is just overpriced).
    10:01 This is one thing (probably of a few) which Juiced did better than Forza - it has the side skirts for the CR-X! Also, the diversity of spoilers is definitely something Forza should learn from Juiced (Okay, Gran Turismo might give much more freedom of customization, but still).
    11:05 The livery system was pretty simplistic at the time (just like Most Wanted allowed only a single layer at a time), but the manufacturer decals was something Juiced nailed. Too bad the placement was locked only to a single layout, but it still looked decent.
    11:41 I can't agree with you on this one. The ride height plays a huge role in how the car handles bumps and pavements. Slam the car too low and you'll be stopped by any curb and spin out after hitting the slightest bump in the road.
    11:57 It's worth mentioning that not all parts affect the hp (obviously, it would be awkward to see a car gain 10 bhp from new suspension or brakes), which makes building stock class prototypes easy and fun 😊
    12:24 That's another cool feature in the career mode as the crew livery is fitted automatically to the car without the need to browse the same stuff all over or make manual adjustments just to give a consistent look.
    13:07 I absolutely agree, the soundtrack in Juiced is filled to the brim with bangers, rivalling the AAA titles of its time. I even listen to some of these tracks when I drive around in The Crew 2.
    14:38 I think the calendar was a clever compensation for the lack of free roam.
    17:07 The betting system was awesome, but it's a shame a single bet was capped at 500k. Obviously, people found an exploit which would make one millions in a few minutes using this system (I won't get into detail here, google it yourselves). As for losing bets or pinks, a workaround also has been found (just gotta know where the saves are located, the rest is pretty straightforward).
    19:48 Completing the Career mode due to its non-linearity can surely take from 2-3 hours if you're speedrunning to maybe even a few years if you're not in a hurry 😂
    22:47 There is a simple and rather stress-free method to improve your crew members - just send them to do sprints (drag races). Despite going mainly in a straight line, the overall experience ends up more rewarding than letting them do circuit races, messing up big time and damaging some of the rivals' cars. One frustrating thing about racing with crewmates is that you can't control their aggression once you cross the finish line, which forces you to let them past to make sure they make it safely to the end.
    23:39 I'm so glad Juice Games chose not to implement rubberbanding. This gives a more authentic feeling to the races.
    25:29 Sure, there are challenges that can be done with stock cars (sometimes it's even better if it's stock or close to stock) but The Wild Cats' Speed Challenge definitely isn't one of them. I remember to this day the struggle of keeping my class 6 Supra above 140 mph on the oval while dealing with the constant reminder to drive faster 😫
    28:01 There's a way to avoid losing the car in a pink slip race without any penalties to the respect. You just need to know at which menu to quit.
    28:11 I totally agree, especially when the race on the next day in the calendar is something you don't want to miss out on (like a sponsored event) but a rival offers a pink slip race. This is a lose-lose situation where you lose either reputation for turning down the pink slip race or the chance to win a prototype part should you accept the offer.
    28:57 I think showoff events are more common in the early stages of Career and it's really worth doing them. Obviously, since every time you enter the minimum score increases, it's for the best if you bank a lot of points early on to get massive amounts of respect from Vixens
    29:54 I can't say I agree with you on this one. Sticking to one trick the whole time would eventually punish you as the spectators grow more and more bored. Therefore, it's worth learning all those skills and pulling off Bonus Moves to boost the multiplier even faster and avoid losing points instead of gaining them. The best choice for Showoff events would be a powerful FWD car as they can do pretty much everything (try pulling off a J-turn or a boomerang in a RWD, or a donut in a 4WD).
    32:40 You know, stories have a thing that kind of limits player's freedom - linearity. In case of Juiced, the lack of a well-developed plot allows you to progress at your own pace and gives sense and purpose to the calendar.
    34:11 The endgame certainly is something AAA titles even from recent years should've learned from Juiced. Going full sandbox is a huge YES from me. As for the Extreme Nitrous Arcade series, as the name suggests, there is an added challenge of the stuck NOS valve, activating whenever you step on the throttle. Also, completing all Arcade series unlocks prototype mods for all cars in Custom Race, which is awesome (meanwhile, unlocking Junkman parts for My Cars in NFSMW is so easy it's boring).
    I don't know if you didn't mind or simply forgot to mention it, but the default controls are pretty awkward (like, who in the right mind shifts with square bracket keys or, when playing with automatic gearbox, reverses using End, or pulls the handbrake with B while looking back with Space? And what's with a separate control mapping window where you assign an action to a key rather than vice versa? Not gonna lie, Juice Games had some crazy ideas 🥴)
    All in all, Juiced had an impressive potential but at the time of release it was heavily underappreciated. Nowadays though, it certainly has become a cult classic (at least to those who played it) which deserves just as much love as the Black Box NFS games, Midnight Club 3, SRS and the like.
    Of course, I'd love to see you cover Juiced 2 as well.

  • @bubba_b0ss
    @bubba_b0ss Před 9 měsíci

    This game has always been my favorite, and it always will be. Thank you for this game sent from heaven THQ.

  • @lukasaustria9529
    @lukasaustria9529 Před 10 měsíci

    I loved this game so much! it was so great to drive , modify and enjoy the tracks

  • @DijaVlogsGames
    @DijaVlogsGames Před 10 měsíci

    I just watched a 36 minute video about a game I have never heard of for a genre I don't even like. Well done, great video!

  • @LARODEO15
    @LARODEO15 Před 10 měsíci

    I remember when I was 5, booting up the game on the PS2. The loading screen, the introduction, main menu screen and soundtrack I NEVER forgot 🙏🏾

  • @car-nivores
    @car-nivores Před 10 měsíci +1

    Maaaan, this is such an underrated game and soundtrack. Great vid

  • @DJONDEX
    @DJONDEX Před 10 měsíci

    😲I still have this game. Played it on the ps2 few days ago😁 i play it once year to bring back memories, so its a bit strsnge to see a video randomly pop up on my youtube.
    Best things about it for me was the handling, sense of speed and betting. Especially how the cars actually feel... to this date, no other game has been able to replicate the feeling of rubber chewing up the tarmac as u drive around a bend and floor it out of that corner, obviously its still arcadey but feelw good.... its hard to explain just have to experience it.
    This game is one of my time greats💯

  • @godsmacking99
    @godsmacking99 Před 9 měsíci

    The PS2 was the golden age of arcade racers and just racing games in general. So much variety and goodness all around.
    Now all's we have is Need For Speed, The Crew, Forza and Gran Turismo and that's pretty much it. I'd love for the PS2 era to come back.

  • @Pepe2708
    @Pepe2708 Před 11 měsíci

    You perfectly described why this is my favorite racing game of all time! The risk and reward aspects are super dynamic, which gives the game excellent replayability, in my opinion. There is really nothing else like it.

  • @jackkoffman5742
    @jackkoffman5742 Před 10 měsíci

    I’m glad you made a video on this game. I got it for the ps2 back in middle school, but I originally dropped it due to the handling frustrating me. I recently went back and played the OG Xbox version, which I recently finished and I had a ball. The handling grew on me and I had a lot of fun with the RWD cars once I got in the groove of how they drove.

  • @nivracer
    @nivracer Před 11 měsíci +1

    I never played any NFS game when I was a kid, all I had was Juiced. Put many hours on that game. I still listen to the Juiced soundtrack every once in a while, brings back the memories. I still remember asking my parents if I could get a Teen rated game when I was 6, they had this game at my Elementary school book fair.

  • @dgeo8939
    @dgeo8939 Před 8 měsíci

    Juiced is, to this day, my favorite racing game ive ever played

  • @BILLGREYNPL
    @BILLGREYNPL Před 10 měsíci

    Shoutout to Juiced for including the Aussie cars. Many weekends rented from VideoEazy as a kid.

  • @thartiustheslayerofthots7088
    @thartiustheslayerofthots7088 Před 10 měsíci +2

    I remember once I unlocked the 22b I sold everything else and got it all the way up to Proto parts and I don’t think anything in its class could keep up

  • @bodivanbodivan3668
    @bodivanbodivan3668 Před 8 měsíci +1

    i believe that this was The most realistic and second best street racing game ive ver played. I have stories about this game bro. I loved it.

  • @Filmore1991
    @Filmore1991 Před 10 měsíci

    What made the game felt so hard was it's field of view. It made you look like you look like your going very fast even though your not. Made my brake timing hard to calculate. xD

  • @drifter233
    @drifter233 Před 9 měsíci

    Love this game, im actually replaying it on PCSX2 currently. However, i do remember being able to save scum by removing the memory card before entering an event, then saving if i won, or resetting if i lost. So save scumming was definitely helpful to me

  • @Jon-mo9ks
    @Jon-mo9ks Před 11 měsíci +2

    3:16 had me crack up, literally right after my google search

  • @deltacharlieecho4732
    @deltacharlieecho4732 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Juiced was the second best racing game of my childhood; second only to NFS Most Wanted 2005.
    The gameplay was perfect.

  • @kevinW826
    @kevinW826 Před 10 měsíci

    I had this game and played the hell out of it. The twitchy rwd car mechanics and lack of transmission upgrades were serious drawbacks. I did find a way of getting past losing money in the betting system. If I remember it correctly, you saved the game, pulled out the memory card and if you won the bet you popped the card back in and saved. If you lost you just reload from before the loss.

  • @flyingsierra180
    @flyingsierra180 Před 3 měsíci

    Besides GT4, this is the second racing game I remember playing as a kid ! I loved the visuals and the customization

  • @PVT.Parts1
    @PVT.Parts1 Před 10 měsíci

    I adored this game... played it non stop

  • @pablodelgado7919
    @pablodelgado7919 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I remember playing Juiced 2 Hot Import Nights back in highschool, albeit the PSP version of the game and for what it was it was pretty fun tbh. The betting and Pinkslip modes were a cool addition yet when playing you have to be quite careful of your opponents, especially in Pinkslips one mistake and you lose your car although you could always have the chance to get it back by doing those same type of races.
    It's a shame that we don't have those type of game modes in today's racing games.

  • @jordantaylor3705
    @jordantaylor3705 Před 10 měsíci

    I loved the difficulty of rear wheel vehicles in this game. My go to was the corvette. I had a ton of fun with this game as a kid along with nfsu1-2. Carbon aswell.

  • @Andreasy2
    @Andreasy2 Před 10 měsíci

    I loved juiced with its unique gameplay. Played it first in 2005 on PS2, what a childhood memory. Still playing it today on PC every now and then

  • @dylanshultz3560
    @dylanshultz3560 Před 10 měsíci

    Juiced has been one of my favorites for years and i still play it today

  • @fsega3669
    @fsega3669 Před 10 měsíci +1

    I remember when juiced 2 was released. The first batch of games included a free ticket to hot import nights. I bought the game the same day that HIN was happening. Sadly I never went but I still have the ticket .

  • @Killjoy888
    @Killjoy888 Před 10 měsíci

    I loved loved loved juiced and juiced 2 really hope there is a remaster coming

  • @MichaelPhillips-np8mw
    @MichaelPhillips-np8mw Před 10 měsíci

    Loved this game.
    I remember training my crew on the oval track

  • @SlyBlu7
    @SlyBlu7 Před 10 měsíci

    What a blast from the past!! This game got a lot of hours from me, because it's SimCade driving combined with sort of a "Race Team" sim. It felt like a very grown-up NFS.
    I would love for the team mechanics to come into NFS or Horizon.

  • @iminurface728
    @iminurface728 Před 11 měsíci +1

    I remember i took a beetle as my starter car one playthrough, and i kept for so long and won so many events with it, i was shocked to find it was worth 150k+ when i checked once. It was worth more than my viper!!!🤯

  • @user-jm7kc4bm8m
    @user-jm7kc4bm8m Před 10 měsíci

    Pink slips racing is the most exhilarating experience one can have

  • @Caffeinated-DaVinci
    @Caffeinated-DaVinci Před 10 měsíci +1

    I loved the first game so much. Such a shame that Juiced 2 removed so many of these features, especially since the car list was so much better

  • @nismonolo
    @nismonolo Před 10 měsíci

    i played juiced 2 as a kid but never the first one. i actually just picked up a copy of this a few weeks ago but now i’m definitely gonna check it out ASAP

  • @WTBMrGrey
    @WTBMrGrey Před 10 měsíci

    I love this game, I still play it now via emulation on my phone and PC.

  • @brandongotsole
    @brandongotsole Před 10 měsíci +1

    The decal preset w brands u use is fire

  • @kevinmarbella7068
    @kevinmarbella7068 Před 10 měsíci +1

    The first juiced is overall I think my favorite street racing game ever. Straight facts your own crew. They can race for you. You can bet and bet your car. Game=unrivaled

  • @PragmaticOptimist_N7
    @PragmaticOptimist_N7 Před 10 měsíci

    If I recall correctly, Juiced *also* had replay to allow you to view your wins... or watch what needs improving. Fond memories of the game iether way

  • @7MBoosted
    @7MBoosted Před 10 měsíci +2

    I really wanted to like this each time I tried to pick it up. Several times since it came out, I just couldn't get past the unrecoverable oversteer. It made driving the cars I wanted to drive not fun and made the actual racing very frustrating.

  • @jamietzonalonzo8139
    @jamietzonalonzo8139 Před měsícem

    I played the game on those good times. I love the sim-arcade phyisics.

  • @UniversalSoljrr
    @UniversalSoljrr Před 10 měsíci

    This was my fave race game back in the day omg

  • @EmperorDank
    @EmperorDank Před 11 měsíci +1

    That commercial is wild lmao

  • @bielkrieger5917
    @bielkrieger5917 Před 10 měsíci +1

    That feeling when you win your $500,000 bet (T.K. vs Biggi) on repeat
    16:28 Nope, you can actually save scum by releasing memory card before making a bet or doing pink slip race if you play it on Playstation 2

  • @Zentoven99
    @Zentoven99 Před 10 měsíci

    This game had the best sounding viper in my opinion. I hop on it just to hear it sometimes. Glad I kept my OG xbox so I can keep playing it.

  • @East_77
    @East_77 Před 10 měsíci

    The ride height and aero, especially the rear wing, did in fact effect the handling mostly on rwd cars which were the best cars in the game and hardest to drive, also lowering the hp of the car made the car more controllable in the corners reducing wheel spin on acceleration. I've sunk in way too much time into this game in it's hay day winning pink slips online out of unsuspecting noobs.

  • @ryancooper4059
    @ryancooper4059 Před 10 měsíci

    I still play this game like it came out yesterday!

  • @FasterFlyer23
    @FasterFlyer23 Před 10 měsíci +2

    Did anyone else sit and bet on drag races just constantly betting on the viper. It was effectively unlimited money hahah

  • @sircsolerom764
    @sircsolerom764 Před 10 měsíci

    I remember when this game came out. The CRX was always my go to