Improve YOUR Experience with Music: These are the BEST Hearing Aid Music Settings for Music Lovers
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Struggling to enjoy your favorite tunes because of how they sound through your hearing aids? You're not alone. In this video, I'm sharing my expertise to help you optimize your hearing aids for a much better music experience. Whether you're a musician, or just someone who loves listening to music, you'll find this guide invaluable.
We're diving deep into how hearing aids can be adjusted for music, what to discuss with your audiologist, and some crucial settings that you need to check to ensure your music sounds as it ought to. By the end of this video, you'll be equipped with several tips to take to your audiologist and will understand why these adjustments can make all the difference to your music experience.
Topics Covered:
⭐ The Basics of Fundamental Frequencies
⭐ Understanding where Music falls in the Range of Human Hearing
⭐ How to Create a Separate Manual Music Setting
⭐ In-person Adjustments and the Importance of Good Speakers
⭐ Essential Adjustments for a Natural Music Setting
This video is part of a series focused on getting the most out of your hearing aids for music. So, if you find this video helpful, don't forget to subscribe to the Hearing Tracker CZcams channel. There's a lot more coming your way, including videos on the best hearing aids for music and how each hearing aid manufacturer optimizes their devices for music.
Leave any questions or comments you might have down below and I'll be sure to get back to you as soon as I can. If you enjoyed the video, be sure to hit that Like button. Thank you for watching, and I look forward to seeing you in the next video!
Importance of Optimizing Hearing Aids for Music 00:29
Hearing Aids Setting Recommendations for Music Listening 00:48
Miscommunication between Audiologists and Musicians 00:55
Importance of Manual Music Settings in Hearing Aids 02:07
In-person Hearing Aid Adjustments with Music Instruments 03:02
Essential Adjustments for a Natural Music Setting in Hearing Aids 03:32
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Matthew Allsop is the Video Content Manager at Hearingtracker.com. He practices from his London-based practice, Harley Street Hearing. You can get in touch on matthew@hearingtracker.com regarding new content ideas or to become a patient.
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Which hearing aids are you wearing?
Widex Moment440
Widex Moment 440 sRIC, using the Music program, with or without My Sound 2.0 "AI" customization. I created a custom Music program with My Sound in the Widex Moment iOS app using my VIZIO V21-H8 sound bar (arguably lower-end and not room-calibrated) the first day I got the HAs. The resulting EQ curve in the app resembled something like "More clarity" (0/3/3), but with slightly less bass and a lot more mid/treble, with -1/6/6 for the low/mid/high graphic equalizer bands. That could be particular to my living room TV setup.
Since then, I've tried the Music on my JBL 305p MkII monitors and Sennheiser/Massdrop HD 6XX headphones (PC workstation). The treble boost is a bit excessive for monitor-listening, so that probably indicates an EQ issue on my sound bar. I'm not sure what else (besides basic EQ) My Sound affects, but I might try it again with those sources. I get that the acoustic environment for RIC microphones inside headphones could differ noticeably from speakers, but I'll need to make the time to figure out what I like for all of them - I hope it's a single Music program.
The Music program on the Moments is set up pretty well out of the box. I have configured Compass GPS 4.5 with a Noahlink Wireless to access my HA configuration, so I could, like some DIYers, try to adjust a Music program's fine tuning there. I still need to get a better understanding of how to properly configure amplitude compression in concert with insertion gain (and perhaps other factors I'm not thinking of), so I'm going to wait until that's more clear to me.
Widex!!!
@@MikeHoopes i can’t trust any changes being made in any setting,.. once a single change is made, everything else gets fucked up, or doesn’t help. When it sounds tinny after being programmed correctly, it because of something else that is causing it, a different component,.. my hearing loss is flat, but yet i have constant issues with tinniness no matter what. My next resort is probably just to go back to the lyric, regardless of if I’m not a candidate.. i can’t stand even the slightest bit of tinniness.. I’m a musician and need every single bit of slight tones to be perfect
@Craft&Crochet i feel you. I'm in the same position. Did a trial of the oticon real and they were amazing, but unaffordable so back to the nhs junk.
Finally someone who understands. I’ve had three audiologist and three different brands. Phonak, wides and Starkey. Can’t get anyone to make these adjustments for me so compression is the enemy to a pianist/keyboardist on stage. This is awesome info and proof of what I need. Wish me luck. Thanks
Thanks again for your video Matthew. Can’t wait for the other series videos🙏🏻
Thanks for watching, Matthew
Incredibly useful, thank you :)
Thanks Matthew, valuable information given to viewers in a normal voice without precipitation and tralala!
Hey Sabine, what a lovely message thank you! Matthew
What marvellous good sense and insight - at last! To me, as a trained sound recordist and still a bit active, I felt the hearing aid industry and training schools were somewhat behind when it comes to music, and that matters were deteriorating with such a focus on algorithm-driven speech-in-noise. My wonderful NHS audiologist said she had no training in fitting for music, but she invited me to bring in my keyboard. Half an hour of magic on her EQ, directionality and compression settings and I was hearing through my Phonaks better than ever - live music and speech. Probably it helped being able to articulate accurately what I could hear or not, but Matthew's advice will help all round in that regard.
Hi Howard, what a lovely message thank you. I’m delighted that you’ve got an audiologist willing to put in the time and energy and you know the right questions to ask! Thanks for taking the time to comment, Matthew
Thanks for this clear explanation and your recommendations for musicians.
Hey DWestPhalen! Thank YOU for reaching out and taking the time to comment, Matthew
Thanks Matthew. Really interested to hear what hearing aids are best for music quality. I’m due for new subsidised hearing aids, I’ve trialed Phonak and now a pair of Resound hearing aids, although I found that I prefer the tonality of Signia, even though I think I’m using Signia Motion which are outdated. Was keen to try an AX model, although as of recently their no longer subsidised in Australia. Looking forward to the next video.
Super useful, thank you!
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching, Matthew
Thank you very much for this video! At last an audiologist who presents and addresses the very real issues encountered when using hearing aids in a classical music environment. I am trialling Oticon Real RITE's at the moment. I qualify my comments by saying they have not yet been adjusted in any way by my audiologist. As an organist I find the 'My Music' programme supplied by Oticon simply cannot cope with long sustained organ notes, and the result is a rather unpleasant, fast oscillation attached to each note. Chords are accompanied by a buzz similar to a slightly out of tune radio. These affects not only occur when listening to recorded music but are particularly accentuated with live music. As a violinist, I find the 'A' played by the oboe for orchestral tuning actually becomes rather difficult to use for tuning string instruments, when heard through the hearing aids.
Hey Trevor, I am delighted that it was useful. Ask your audiologists to make the adjustments and see if it helps with the oscillation. Thank you for watching and taking the time to feedback! Matthew
Very Informative, thank you Mathew. I’m an audio mixing engineer. I have moderate to severe unilateral cookie bite hearing loss, I’m stuck in a hard place in choosing between the Widex Moment Sheer 440 or the Oticon Real 1. Im very excited for part 2 of this video to be released, to help make a more informed decision.
Hey Pinger! I’m still working on it as it’s a pretty big video and there’s new tech coming out too that I want to cover. Watch this space, Matthew
Which did you end up choosing?
I was fitted with Oticon REAL miniRITE 2 aids a week ago. Speech clarity is much improved, and I can hear bird songs again, but my banjo and guitar sound like the strings are buzzing against the fret when I play them (but they are not). Streaming recorded music works fine however. I am hoping that the buzzing issue can be corrected at the next adjustment session with my audiologist (next week). If not, I may need to consider different aids
Thank you very much for this great video Matthew! I am a 73 year old composer/producer/musician currently on Oticon Own S platform. My high freq loss is a steady decline starting around 2k and down to -75 by 8k. I currently have most of your suggestions enabled through trial and error the feedback suppression being the worst effect (vibrato like distortion). For music my Own S sound good and very "natural". I am about to upgrade to Oticon Real and am hoping I will hear an improvement with speech in noise and everyday speech whilst not losing the musicality of the Open S aids. Cheers Jim
Have you tried Widex?
Hey Jim, I'm delighted that you found the video helpful. I would love to hear your feedback on the improvements with music. I've another music related video coming out in a few weeks which may be up your street too so watching this space. Thanks for watching, Matthew
@@HearingTracker What devices do you normally use for musicians?
Syllabic? Fast? Slow? Dual? Adaptative compression?
Thanks a lot for your very instructive video
Thank you! I have been having a buzz when playing my acoustic guitar. I even carried my guitar to my guitar luthier to get it set up. He promised me that my guitar wasn’t the issue. I then carried my guitar to my audiologist and he did make a program that reduced the buzzing sound. I’m not totally satisfied with it and also it momentarily kicks out of the program and I get a volume increase when I get a notification. I will take your recommendations and my guitar with me on my next visit. I have Phonak Lumity Life hearing aids.
Hey Mike I would love a progress update on this. How did you get along? Matthew
Thanks so much, Matthew! I'm searching for my first HA's. The ENT folks wanted to put me in ReSounds, I'd heard that Widex was best for instrumental and vocal music, so I have an appointment in two days with an AuD who has many brands available- and specializes in Widex! Looking forward to the next installment. Will let you know how the Widex appointment works out.
Hey Tom, thanks for the feedback! Keep me posted! Thanks, 😀 Matthew
Hey Matthew, ended up with Widex Moment Sheer 440's set up with REM, and they really helped me with my first concert with hearing aids. WOW! I took my list of these settings to my audiologist, and she has made a first pass in the Widex Music app. If there are any tips you can share about how to approach these adjustments, I'd be eternally grateful.
All the best,
Tom
@@HearingTracker
Hi, thank you for these great videos. What is the frequency range of the hearing aids? Do the in ear provide better audio range for music steaming? I have a friend who has Signia 7X and he says that there no bass at all and that music seems to be coming from a small tunnel. Can you help please?
I'm a musician and music producer - I have widex moment sheer 440s, and there doesn't seem to be a way to turn off or adjust compression settings to do as you suggest. You can display compression settings, but not change them. I'm wondering if it's best to use the puresound setting as a starting point (low delay and combines with natural hearing), and create a music program from that. OR, I can use the widex music program as a starting point. Hoping you're familiar with this model - they seem to be the widest frequency range out there, and are touted as "the best" by many musicians. I hope I made the right choice.
They are amazing. They are the best for musicians by far.. I have tried so many others and widex is the one... If you don't like the manual music setting that it comes with, you can do the my sound and play your instrument or sing, and it will give you other options of programs... The music program also is amazing as well.. I can't speak for the puresound because my hearing loss is a little beyond that point, and I am apparently not a candidate for the pure sound apparently otherwise it can cause insufficient gain for me because its only for people with a bit less of a hearing loss but even in the universal program, there's still less delay than other manufacturers either way, but there's no artifacts in the device at all whatsoever on my end. I have had so many issues with other devices.. Although many people seem to like ReSound or Oticon,..thats really if they never tried widex lmao.. I've had ReSound and had no luck with them , but widex is certainly best either way
I just jumped off the cliff and bought Widex 440. The cliff was the money. I still earn a little as a professional singer, and I needed the best for music so I could really gauge my volume, pitch, and other parameters as a soloist and as a member of an ensemble. Man, they cost way too much, but I did it.
I'm using the audiologist's demo pair while they order mine. The charger with the demo is frustrating me because there's no lid and dust or cat hair or other debris could fall into the charging slot. Does Widex have a better charge now? I want to be able to close it up safely and travel with it. Thanks.
Thanks Ive watched a lot of your videos which are all really helpful being at the start of my journey
Speech has been fine but my guitar shocking the main thing being double notes/horrible vibrato effect depit having separate music and playing programs. I understand the guitar issue is common
Hey Phil, I’m pleased to hear that they’re helpful. Thank you for taking the time to comment, have you had them adjusted for music at all? Matthew
Thanks for replying
I have music programs and went back 5 times. I took the aids back and went to a different audiologist. So far with phonak lumity 90s they are pretty good even without a special separate program. I have your checklist to take in at my first review but so far I am a lot happier
Me too....same problems....
@@philwebster-harrison6594I had Phonak and it sucks for musicians! I used Widex because those are known to be number one for musicians
Thanks this is useful. For the Audeo P50s, is there a way to add an additional streaming program for music (instead of a regular program)? Then I can switch between the regular bluetooth streaming and music streaming when listening to that specifically.
Hey Shri, it’s possible for your audiologist to adjust them separately on the hearing aid software. I hope this help, Matthew
I am very lucky that my audiologist understands music as he plays musical instruments and reads music. I love music, I have a music channel on my aid
What’s name brand of your hearing aids?
@@kaleemarcel1390 phonak Paradise
@@nikkirix4659 Phonak sucks. Im a musician and I use widex
Hey Nikki, I’m delighted that you have found a decent audiologist that understands. Thanks for taking the time to comment. Matthew
Is there any device that could be used in a single program that can actually accommodate both speech and music?
Also the right domes can make a difference. With closed domes, you might hear more bass.
YES! 100%. Thanks EmJazzle, it does all depend on the hearing loss though. Thanks for watching and taking the time to comment, Matthew
I concur. For classical (primarily symphonic) music streaming, I switch my double vented bass domes with power domes in which I punctured a tiny hole. The hole lessens the boomy "swimming pool" sound of the low frequency instruments. Since HAs don't reproduce sound below 250 hz, at least there is an impression of a low end when using the power domes. I use Oticon More 2s and the MyMusic program for streaming. For playing bassoon, or listening with room speakers, I have a second MyMusic setting with feedback control disabled. No warbling at all...a sustained tone free of flutter.
Any thoughts on the Oticon More Music Program? Does is do all the things you listed, turning off the correct functions?
Hey Russell, it’s a great starting point in my opinion, but as with all hearing aid manufacturer defaults needs to be adjusted based on the capacity in which you listen to music and your individual requirements. Thanks for taking your time out to comment, Matthew
@@HearingTrackersome built in manual music settings, such as with widex are able to accommodate both recorded and live music
Is there a hearing aid which provide tuning all these parameters by yourself or is only the audiologist which has the software to do so? I saw on your reviews that Resound seems to be the best in term of application? What would be your recommendation? I a practicing musician and I listen to music many hours a day. I fear I would make a mistake if I spend a lot of money and be disappointed. I have a small loss in the high frequency. Thanks for your insight.
Some people, (mainly those that never tried widex) seem to like ReSound, but Widex is number one
Is the 330 tech level in the Widex hearing aids still good for musicians? Or should i change to a 440?
I would suggest the best you can afford. Matthew
Any particular recommendations on manufacturer/model that's working well?
Hey Conor, stay tuned for part 2! Thanks for watching, Matthew
Widex is the best. I have tried alot of other hearing aids including ReSound which many people like, but widex is the best sound quality I ever had
Hi Matthew, I don’t enjoy listening to music since I’ve had muffled/tinny hearing. I have a deviated septum that may be causing this.
Muffled and Tinny are two completely different things.. Tiny is a sharp distortion, muffled just means its unclear, which many people with hearing loss obviously have issues with hearing sound clearly
Hey Phoenix, are you a hearing aid user? Thanks for watching and taking the tie to comment, Matthew
Have you/will you provide similar insight for optimising TV sound?
Hey Steve, check out this video and let m know in the comments if it works for you... czcams.com/video/JACHOGbvAEQ/video.html
Only recently by watching a video on Rexton’s available Hearing Aids preset programs did I learn that since the Kirkland Signature 8.0 hearing aids manufactured by Rexton that a preset program called “Enhance Music” was available yet my Costco audio technician never brought it up to my attention. All she was focused on was speech conversations and understanding and not Bluetooth music streaming. When I meet her again on the 18th of this month, I will ask her why she didn’t tell me Enhance Music is available.
Amazing how the hearing professional did not consider these aspects for better music experiences.
I agree! I think/hope that’s changing, Matthew
Thanks Matthew. Really interested to hear what hearing aids are best for music quality. I’m due for new subsidised hearing aids, I’ve trialed Phonak and now a pair of Resound hearing aids, although I found that I prefer the tonality of Signia, even though I think I’m using Signia Motion which are outdated. Was keen to try an AX model, although as of recently their no longer subsidised in Australia. Looking forward to the next video.
Hey Hugh, it's work in progress so watching this space. Thanks for watching, Matthew
Signia is like Widex basically