Will $600 Boots Last Forever? Whites MP Boot Review
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- čas přidán 13. 09. 2024
- The Whites MP just might be the last boot you buy. With its timeless good looks, its Pacific Northwest build quality, and timeless style, this may be the ultimate gentlemans boot. At $600 your options are many, and perhaps this isn't the perfect boot for you but I can definitely see this being the only boot some men need in their collection.
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Reviews of clothing, boots, and accessories for men, along with style advice and life philosophy. I've been working with my hands for my entire life as a mechanic, tow truck driver, and eventually a licensed electrician. Being a blue collar guy, I look for certain elements in a product: is it durable? Is it high-quality? Will it perform well over its service life? Whether boots, pants, jackets, or tools I believe it's best to buy once and cry once by getting the best you can afford. With so many options these days, choosing the best product can become a difficult decision, but that's where I come in. Helping you stay stylish, rugged, and handsome.
I don't care where it's made as long as it's made well, and allows you to buy less and buy better.
I have had my whites for 6 or 7 years now. About 4 years in they started to squeek. I avoided wearing them because I felt like a clown. I tried all the at home remedies for this, but to no avail. I wrote to whites about it and they said send them in and we will fix them. I paid for one way shipping and they rebuilt my boots and sent them back at no charge. I love these boots. Great looking, super tough and great for being on your feet all day. Mine were somewhat custom they look more dressy than work boot but I used them as work and wear boots. They are not MP's, I dont think they had all these choices when I ordered mine. It can take a little while to get use to the "arch ease" arch support but it really makes it possible to work all day in them. I woodworked and did wearhouse jobs with them on. Recomend this brand whole heartedly.
I managed to grab a pair of Whites MP boots on clearance for $350 from Huckberry. Absolute tanks!
Nothing better than a Carl Murawski boot review🙌🏻
This is top 3 CZcams channels
I appreciate that!!!
I agree! Always look forward to carl's videos!
I agree
IYO 😆
I’ve always struggled with ready to wear work boots because of my unusually wide feet. About 6 years ago I had White’s, custom build me a pair of Smoke Jumpers. After a solid 3 week break in, (the boots broke me in not the other way around) they are by far the most comfortable boots I’ve ever owned. At $600 a pair and 6 years old and still going, they are much cheaper than destroying cheaper ready to wear boots every year. I have had to replace the soles once but the boots are still in excellent condition.
One correction is that the MP does not have their famous Arch Ease support, which is found in their BH, SJ, and SD. However, the MPs feel like slippers and Barrie last is super comfortable and easier to break in. Also, their new Stevens boot blends the best of both worlds with an MP boot built with their Arch Ease. Just ordered a pair and can’t wait!
Great job showing off the boots. That color is absolutely gorgeous. Your last couple of vids of nicks and whites have been helpful in my search for some high end boots. Thanks Carl!
I own a pair of these in brown cxl and they're probably my favorite boots in my closet, next to my Alden Indys
Two classics!!!
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My favorite question, between Indys and White's, if you have to pick one, which one will be your choice?
@@chicagoan6342 Honestly? I'd say Whites. Being able to customize your boot to your specification is so worth it. I honestly got the Alden Indys because I'm a giant fan of Indiana Jones. If it didn't have the Indy name in the boot, I probably would of not got them.
@@sneaky.vampire Thank you, I agree with you, both White's and Aldens are in the same price tier and the arch support and the customization (like you mentioned) in White's are top notch.
@@chicagoan6342 I'm thinking of grabbing me a pair of black bounty hunters soon.
I got my Whites MP a few months ago in waxed black. I absolutely love them.
How do they run size wise?
@@hectordeleon330 1 size smaller than standard Nike sneakers
How is the waxed black different from black chromeexcell?
Good vid man and I appreciate you saying you probably won't be cutting up any more nice boots, that hurt my soul, lol. I love that color red, it's the same color as my Red Poll cattle!
I own a pair and think they are fantastic. I use them as my dress boots since I own multiple pairs of steel toe work boots. Whites MP is my favorite pair of boots; highly recommended.
As always- Great vid, Carl. I’ve been wearing these a little over a year now, in Cinnamon waxed flesh as well. Have broken in quite nicely, and I think versatility is their greatest trait, by far.
I own a pair...you don't know until you know. These are the absolute best of the best.
It looks like it's time to take a step above my Iron Rangers! Thanks for the video, Carl!
You bet!
If you’re going to step up and pay more, you might as well pay less, get a better boot, support your neighbor and get the Americana.
I bought a pair of 350 cutters on sale for $450 because after a year of working in a pair of iron rangers, I realized I needed way more arch support. The stitching isn’t perfect...but for $450 they are a massive upgrade from red wings and the break in was an absolute breeze by comparison.
I’ve got the mp-m1 brown chromexel. I won’t wear anything less than whites. Nicks are next!!
the coracan 1510 jump boots are worth doing a review on. There's a crappy factory finish on them, but after you remove that its the best pair of sub $200 boots out there.
I always enjoy your videos, my kind of stuff. I have two pairs of Whites, both work boots. One dates back to 2004 an has been rebuilt or resoled every two years since. The other dates to 2010. They are tough indeed, although admittedly I'm not as hard on boots as some other people are. I also own a pair of Nick's Urban Loggers that wear very well. But my hands down best out of the box,made to measure boots are my JK Boots. A model they call "The North". They look great and fit even better. Thank you for asking others opinion. 👍
thanks, that helps. I also heard JKs have a shorter break in.
I basically bought my Nicks Urban Loggers for the reason you discussed in this video. They will fill the gap between my dress boots (Allen edmonds) and sneakers (I like hiking shoes). I'm not particularly a boot guy and don't plan on getting lost in that world. I will get the occasional resole and hope they will last me a long time. Whites MPs seem like a solid choice though.
I mean we were all crying when you cut those boots up lol
So was I!!!
I own the Nicks Robertson Built on a 55 Last very Comfortable and well built boot that I wear to the office/ manufacturing floor daily. I did find that a 6” Boot doesn’t look as good as a 8”, 10”, and 12”. Purchased a Pair of Whites ( Hathorn ) line 12” Packer boot and those are now my go to boot. I find my Iron Rangers and My Wolverine 1000 mile Addisons don’t even come out of there boxes any longer.
How are White's hathorns compared to Nick's Robertson? I have read White's hathorns are not as sturdy, do you feel like they are not as solid as Nick's Robertsons?
@@chicagoan6342 honestly I prefer the he Hathorne because there a bit taller but Robertson definitely looks cleaner and better built there my Dress boots
I'm glad you're not cutting up boots anymore. I always thought it was so wasteful.
Man, agreed!
I love that color red. Exactly the boot I would buy. I'm glad you didn't cut those. I still have PTSD from that last pair you butcherd. Love the video's.
I have a pair of the half lug MP WB 1853 burgundy plain toe. Excellent boots. I got mine directly from Whites closeout for $ 400. No regrets
I my self have 3 pair of whites smoke jumpers, packers for work and casual packers I have been wearing them for 25 years and have never had any issues awsome boots
I thought that the MP was at a loss to other White’s products because it was missing the arch-ease found in the 55 last.
I also saw evidence on styleforum of development of a 5050 last which would be MP’s last with added arch support which is exciting for those needing more arch support
I have the Rw beckmans in burgundy. But I'm liking these subtleties in this boot, thanks for introducing me to em! 🤘🏼 ima check out their other stuff.
Did your soles disintegrate?
Stellar review. As someone who’s sick of fast fashion sneakers and doesn’t need a pair of work boots, the mp service boots is definitely one of the best out there. The brown oiled smooth leather is super thick, and i had a nightmare of a time breaking the boots in. Now that they’re broken in, the whites are definitely my most reaches for pair of boots. When compared to my recently acquired viberg service boots, these are definitely slightly more rugged and robust. They feel indestructible. Definitely gonna pick up another pair of mp service boots in the near future.
Very cool! I always wondered how these would fare against a Viberg service boot
The Viberg Service boots is over price
@@bonifaciomagdiwang1697 yes, i wholeheartedly agree now that I got a pair myself. I only pulled the trigger on mine because they were on sale. What I can say is this. you won't be disappointed in a pair of Vibergs after seeing and trying on a pair of them (given the right last). IMO they have the best silhouette out of all service boots - simple and timeless.
Thank you for pointing out whites inconsistencies...... Everyone looks at me like I have two heads.
I have a pair of Nick's Urban Loggers being made, now I need a pair of these!!!
Can you include more shots of you wearing the boots you review? I love your videos but find this is one thing I find myself really longing for in boot reviews. On feet to see proportions better, sunlight effect, combo with outfits maybe, etc
If you go for White's you HAVE to get their arch ease construction!!
I just bought a pair of MP M1 boots in cinnamon waxed flesh last weekend. It looks like it'll be at least 20 weeks until I get them, but I'm still excited.
my list for "i have decent money and want a pair of boots"
-nicks robert/falcon
-whites main street
-grant stone diesel boot
-viberg service boot
those are my styles of boots i like, but most stuff from any of those companies is going to do you well.
on a side note i feel like viberg is overpriced when the whites main street is very similar and about 300 dollars less. plus, getting nit-picky, they're stitchdown while the main street is goodyear welted.
I just purchased a pair of Roberts this morning. 👍🏽
@@davidlandrum mine are coming in soon and i'm super excited
Purchase a pair of Grant Stone Diesel boots. $700.00 plus quality for half that price. You can't go wrong. And no they don't pay me, I just saved a lot of money on very high end footwear purchasing their product...
The whites on your thumbnail are beautiful....very desirable, but mine would never look like that bcuz I'd use them for their intended purpose.
I bought JK Boots. I'm very impressed with the quality and customer service. I also bought a pair of Wescos. Buying quality is the way to go.
I’ve been anxious to try JK and Wesco both!
@@CarlMurawski you won't be disappointed either way. JK did an amazing job on my boots.
@@CarlMurawski my wesco collaborations with iron heart is the way to go !
I like the options Wesco offers. I have 2 pairs of Nicks and I am so pleased with them that I am afraid to go see elsewhere.
Definitely looking at these for my next pair of boots.
Thanks for the very thorough review. Wondering your thoughts about Frank's Boots. Yet another Spokane boot maker that is making the Pacific NW proud.
I'd love to check out Franks someday! So many boots, so little time...
Agree that the Whites BH / Cutter is a more apples to apples comparison to Nicks Roberts. Very similar build. The MPs are ridiculously comfortable and a more every day dressier boot but built much more robustly than even RW Beckham’s. Thicker leather and better arch support for sure. Love my RWs but these PNC boot builders are in another league and obviously another price point. The new White Steven model looks awesome. Basically the MP boot on their famous arch ease last. Need me some of those!
Just my opinion, but I don't think any boot with the visibly lugged sole would pass as an office-capable crossover. Office-ready boots would need that V-bar/mini-lug silhouette from the sides, like White's Semi Dress or the Robert from Nick's.
These are beautiful….I wanted some whites but when I went to the site I got overwhelmed and quit hah
Yet another company that doesn’t do large sizes. As a 15/16 guy I’ll never know but I’d love a chance to get a pair of mp’s if they expanded their size range.
Thanks for the review and all the others you do. This is getting me through while I wait for my pair of MPs to arrive.........sigh
They’re great, you’ll love them!
Didn’t like how the boots 🥾 toe cap was not double stitched on the upper. That will affect overall durability and longevity. That needs to be upgraded!
I know someone who's had a pair of Peter Limmer & Sons boots since 1975 and has had them resoled ( still the complete original upper ) about 5 times in all those years.
Eventually part of the boot is going to wear out and need replacing, and it has me wondering
If they get to 70 years on them, how much of the original boot will really be left on them at that time ?
Even if none of the original boot is left but some of the replacement leather had been there 40 years at this point can you say you've still got Peter Limmer boots on your feet.
I would sure love to have a lifelong companion on my feet, but I'm not sure I can actually afford a pair that will last that long or what it it would cost to keep them going that long but the idea of it sure is nice.
Here is my opinion :), I own Allen Edmonds boots but I need some serious arch support so for me, White's are a better option, although almost double or triple the price of AE (sale prices).
Can you afford not having a good pair of boots? How much will you pay for all the bad ones you will wear over the years?
@@bobhabsolute4995
There Is a middle ground between high end boots and junk boots you know.
Tyler Snyder I know. Still, Nicks boots are not expensive for the quality they offer. Will they last twice as long as Red Wings or Truman? I believe so.
Man, I remember my dad taking me there on our way to Acadia one time to get me fitted for a pair of Peter Limmer's boots. That pair of boots are still pretty much new 15 years later. In my experience once you pass the $250 any boot would last you 10+ years easily depending on what you are using them for. My boots, I pretty much just use them for walking/hiking and I don't see a way in which my Alden's or RW won't last 15 years. Heck if I use a pair of Timberlands for the activities I use my Indy's, I am pretty sure they would last the same amount. I don't see my Fracap lasting less than ten years while I only use them to take walks in the woods over the weekends. What I'm trying to tell you is that after a certain price point we are paying for craftmanship. We pay for the feeling of someone building something that feels only for us. You can buy a dinner table at a big box store that would last you the rest of your life, but somehow having someone build you a dinner table feels more personal. You feel more connected to that table, to grain in the wood etc. So that's what we pay for, not for longevity itself. Kicking shovels and pouring concrete a pair of Timberland's Pro would last you more than a pair Viberg Service Boots or even a pair of John Lofgren.
Hartt's Ammo boot is a good comparison to check out if you're in the market for a service boot, but don't want to wait for Nick's or White's. And want something a little lighter. The pricing at the moment is also a bit of a plus.
Love these brands but they are way above my payrate. I got a pair of The No 8 chromexcel from an Indian based shoemaker which looks awesome
Personally I’m looking at nicks , I’ve never owned a 600 hundred dollar pair of boots , but after much research , nicks seems the way to go 6’ with the heel
I have Nicks Urban Loggers and I love them. One of the best all around boots I got if not the best.
Been following you for quite some time and have made many purchases based on your videos. As far as White’s vs Nicks. I could not decide so i have a pair from each on order and should be built and delivered within the next month. Another boot i am quite fond of are Russell Moccassin boot company in Wisconsin. So thank you for the in depth reviews. Am not one to put forth requests but have my eye on the Schaeffer Outfitter blacktail quilted rangewax jacket. Made in the USA. Looks high quality and looks right up your alley for a review..... could use you input.
I’m going to have a pair of custom boots made and I have narrowed it down to whites or nicks and I’m really undecided
Great video as always! I’ve actually been looking at these and Nick’s Falcon boots. I feel both have very similar styling (flatter profile/moderate arch) and benefits of being very versatile in office/field. I’m curious if anyone has experience with the MP and the Falcons?
I have the Falcons they are super nice get better every time you where them
I’ve come to the conclusion that I’m going to have to get both. It’s too agonizing for me to decide. NOW I’m at the point of trying to figure out which do I want FIRST. Still can’t decide hahaha
Hey Carl. I'm on 16 weeks waiting for my own pair of WhiteS MP and I noticed your boots don't look like any pair over every seen like it's a different last. Yours seem more bulbous. Do you still have this pair and is your shoe size responsible for the different look or do you have no idea what I'm talking about and I'm a crazy person
If you’re going to cut apart another boot, do it like an autopsy do you can examine how the boot “died”.
Haha that’s a good idea!
Got a pair of these earlier this year and was really surprised with how comfortable they were out not the box. Snug but not at all painful. Can't say the same about the dragon 2.0 from Taft. Love the things, but damn were they painful the first few days despite the leather being nowhere near as heavy.
Jeeze! I love this thumbnail
Well I knew you would!!!
I had debated between White's Bounty Hunter and Nick's Urban Logger and chose the latter, mainly because I wanted a pair of rugged casual boots w wickett and craig veg tan leather. However, during my research, I seriously considered the MPs but felt the Bounty Hunter was a tad more rugged for a casual boot than the MP, thus more suitable for what I was seeking. Would you agree with this assessment?
Great video but I am legitimately at a loss for anyone stating that the MP is an elegant office boot. These are far too bulky to be formal wear imo.
i have a pair of semi dress boots in the same color and damn they are amazing
Chris Daughtry gone “boots”!
I really enjoy seeing the cut boots. Since yyou feel it is wasteful, I can agree even though for education. Maybe ask the manufacturer if they have a cut boot you could borrow for a vid?
I want to get a pair of White's MP. I have three redwings and a pair of wolverines. And I can't justify the price or another pair. yet. But. Those whites look real good.
The thing that bothers me with these "tough" dress boots are that they usually have a 430 mini lug and the only step up from that is V100 which is insanely chunky with the lugs. I wish these PNW boot makers would offer something with more tooth, but not the chonk.
The mps do have an option for daynite soles, which are a lot dressier
Also White's have some sort of combination soles on their Limited series boots. That sole does look like a middle ground between the two extremes.
Great review Carl. I love my Whites SD and have been considering some MPs for awhile. On a separate request, please Carl, do not cut up any more boots. It is wasteful and there are so many hard working folks that would absolutely die for a pair of boots of this caliber. Cutting them up seems a touch disrespectful to the hard working men and women that these boots were originally designed for. If someone is considering boots on this level, you already know what you are buying. Love your videos and I get why you did one cut up video. But for the love of god man two boots is enough! Cheers!!
what are the differences between the Semi-Dress and the MPs?
I love your CZcams channel. What do you think of Freebird boots?
I'm split between the MP amd Stevens. I love the cap toe, but I'm not entirely sure about the Stevens dressier cap even though I want to be able to wear a rural dressy outfit. Also something that can easily go from church to the office or around town without screaming dressy.
MP Barrie Last, is that the same as Alden Barrie Last? Do they size the same as well? Thanks great video. Looking to see how these compare against Grant Stone Diesel.
When I think of a boot that fills the gap between dress boots and working boots, one name come to my mind: Viberg.
One word comes to mind: overpriced
@@charlesbronson240 I agree. I was strictly refering to style.
What was the build of your burgundy MP boot? All the ones I’ve seen have the low profile soft toe and look like a service boot, but these look much bulkier and BETTER. What kind of toe did you get, did you go with a higher heel? Honestly curious bc they look a lot like White’s Semi-Dress but somehow better!!! ❤️❤️❤️
These are the boots I've been eyeing for a while, in the mean time I got 1000 miles with cap toe and combo sole in chromexcel #8.....so similar look, just at a lesser quality...for now...
I lost my mind when you cut the Americana's in half.
That one stung across the globe I think!
Yeah that was traumatizing...
@@CarlMurawski I mean.........
@@adamberkebile4871 It was like he dropped an infant.
I would be curious to know what other boots would be on the list of “if I would have to have only one pair of boots”
Question. On the care. Does it matter what kind of conditioner and polish? I am beginner bootblack. I have seen high end boots in my chair. It would be nice to use the right products for these boots.
I have the semi dress and comfort is key 👌
How thick is the leather on the uppers? Seems to be thinner than Nick’s. Is that the case?
Thanks for the review! How would you compare the sizing to the Red Wing IR?
I wear a 13D in IR also 13D in MP Sherman on a Brannock device I'm a 13.5 D
Looking at these boots in either black chromexcell or black waxed flesh.
Any thoughts on the specific use for each? Thanks
How do you compare these to a pair of Viberg, in terms of comfort and durability (would be worn as a dress boot). Thank you
Comfort is subjective but they are durable. Just overpriced. I mean cmon, stitch down construction and Chromexcel isn’t worth $700.
I want to buy my son a pair of work boots he owns his own landscaping company and does a lot of yardwork and mowing as well as basic landscaping. I know that I should get a rough out type boot but what would you recommend?
Ty
New to channel could you make a vid on top 5 pair of casual boots to wear that are highend?
I love the idea man!
Hi
Great video thank you . Are these a 55 last?
I had a pair of MP boots that I eventually returned (after several warranty exchanges). For me, the quality didn't really match the asking price, and I was constantly astounded at some of the QC mishaps that made it past final inspection.
I'd be more interested in White's actual work boots in the future; some of the sloppy workmanship that marred my MP boots would be far less problematic on a pair of boots intended to be thrashed hard. As it was, I felt the MP boots fell between two stools; neither rugged enough to be a true 'work boot', nor well enough finished to be a good 'casual boot'.
As far as solidly made casual boots go, I'm a big fan of my Viberg's.
Agreed.
Vibergs own 3 cant go wrong for sure
Thinking of picking up this color with the Dainite sole because I've always wanted a red boot for the Fall. Think it can be pulled off business casual?
Dainite sole definitely makes the boots less chunky. I should’ve gone with dainite instead of commando. I work in an office/lab, wear these to work all the time and don’t feel out of place. Definitely less sleek than viberg’s service boots, also not terribly rugged.
Yes absolutely, especially with a Danite sole these would look like cap toed shoes to most people.
Between the MP or the nicks urban logger which would you qualify as more of a daily driver?
The Nicks Urban Logger
From Carl's videos it appears that MP is not a good competitor to Nick's Urban Logger, I think White's Bounty Hunters will compare better.
What’s the difference between them and bounty hunter
The way I wear boots, they’re not going to last forever its just going to happen. My good quality boots they might last me a year. Usually they only last through the winter. I’m hard on my shoes and I’m working a lot that’s a very funny claim though.
How do you size these? I'm 10.5 in Iron rangers and 11 in Alden indy's...been hearing all kinds of things, like go down 1.5 sizes from nikes or just .5 from iron rangers. I'm an 11 in the Barrie last and these are based on the Barrie correct?
What last are these built on? What size are they?
I have a pair of doc martens from 1997 that I still wear.
I'm somewhat surprised that an upper level boot like White's MP Service boot has stitchdown construction. I kinda thought stitchdown was generally considered inferior to a goodyear welt? Am I wrong?
Goodyear welting has benefitted from some deceptive marketing. Different welts are really best for different applications, in this case stitchdown is actually preferable.
I am from India, I just have a question,
Do The blue collar workers really earn that much money, to buy a pair of 600 usd boots?
Yes.
Not too often with living costs and everything.
I've never owned any. But I will now. A Sherman tank
I have a regular office job (Software Engineer), I am looking to buy Red Wing Iron Rangers but after listening to all these videos that It is work boot and doesn't look good in an office (semi-casual) environment as it has Bulbous cap toe. So as an alternative I looked at Thursday’s Captain boot, it looks like the one which can be dress up in a semi-casual office but I don't like its quality as compared to IR.
Any Suggestions?
Look at Allen Edmonds, buy them on sale or what they call Factory seconds (check their website), Sale or Factory second prices will be around $200 and you will get much better American made boots. BTW I am a Software Engineer too. I am moving to White's because I need some serious arch support.
I have an idea, why not buy a pair of $350 Grant Stone Diesel boots. Tough, versatile and can be dressed up and down. And you can keep that remaining $250.00 in your pocket.
Why support China?
@@swankybubbles77 The owners of Grant Stone are Americans. They primarily use American made products to make their footwear.
@@jamesmosley8675 Yet they can’t find some Americans to stitch together their boots? And they still charge upwards of $300/pair. My question to them is why go to China if it’s not for pure profiteering?
@@swankybubbles77I'm only familiar with their story. One of the owner's father had a relationship with the factory in China. And many of workers were adept in making high quality footwear. I cannot tell you that their motivation was pure profit. I can tell you that they make very high end footwear at a reasonable price. So I would assume that they pass on some of what they save on to the consumer. BTW many the top American footwear manufacturers produce many of their shoes/boots in foreign countries.
@@jamesmosley8675 which is why I don’t buy boots from them. People like us who can afford $300+ boots should make an effort to support American workers and not those companies who profit by having their items manufactured internationally. Especially given we do have the option to buy American on things like boots, which are of the highest quality in the world being manufactured here. China has an unfair trade advantage because of their totalitarian government which btw violates human rights of their own citizens and constantly intimidates their neighbors politically and militarily, rapes the ocean of resources, is the worlds biggest polluter, and constantly steals intellectual property from us and we sit here buying shit from them? Eff China. Eff Grant Stone
Have u used iron rangers as work boots?
CUT IN HALF THOSE THURSDAY LOGGER BOOTS THEY SELL, TREAT THEM LIKE THE DESERVE HEHE
So torn between these and the nicks Americana for my captains upgrade one I wear through them
Well the best thing to consider is how you'll wear them and what you need from a boot. the Nicks is more like a work boot, these are more casual.
That’s what’s so tough- like in the review I made on the captains I have a video production firm. So I go from meeting with the CEO in their office, etc to shooting and lugging gear on top of a mountain or all over a city on the same day. I need a boot that can do it all. So a boot I can really dress up but is tough like a work boot.
do you buy all the products you review ?
Most but not all, and I will mention in the video whether the product was provided to me or not. These I got this summer when Whites had a sale and scored them for under $500.
@@CarlMurawski yea they def aren’t cheap! I remember you said you did rail work, lol I remember hearing someone from mbta making $300k not too long ago!!
Should I get these or the veg tan Falcons?
Veg falcons
I have found that a pair of indestructable boots like Whites is deserving of indistructable laces. For me nylon and leather laces don't cut it.
Try the laces from PisgahRangeLtd yet? 10 bux each. I found out about them from Instagram boot lovers. "With 7 inner cores, and an outer sheath adding up to 500lbs breaking strength, our paracord is the strongest on the market. We back this claim with a LIFETIME warranty." www.pisgahrangeltd.com/
I think stitchdown would be a bit of a misnomer for Whites construction. Technically it’s more of a rolled/Norwegian welt.
Edit: After looking at my MP’s, I feel like that second row of stitching on the cap toe may not be completely sewn down to help give the toe a more gradual taper. Keeping it less bulbous, and avoiding an unnatural looking decline in height. Just a theory though 🤔