Gay men are so mean!
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- čas přidán 31. 05. 2024
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I've noticed that gay men can either be the nicest people you will ever meet or are mean and exclusionary. In this video I will discuss mean drag culture, gay female icons who are mean and loneliness about being around mean people in gay clubs.
0:00 Introduction
0:08 Gay men are mean
0:43 First time clubbing at 18
1:49 Drag race reads
2:31 Mean female characters
3:54 Gay Misogyny
4:30 Mean if you’re unattractive
5:25 Mean as a defence mechanism
7:00 I worked in a gay bar
7:56 Exclusionary gay community
8:49 Please like and subscribe 🙂
please like and subscribe ! ;)
Not only 50% of them are mean but they are shallow, selfish, and a hypocrite.
Gays being mean for no reason is so real. In my school every gay thats out is so damn mean and judgy that im scared to even approach them. Which sucks cuz i want to have friends that know where im coming from. 😥
It really sucks doesn’t it ! Was the same for me at school, just wanted some gay friends to relate to but the two other gays in my year would just constantly put people down and judge them :/. I really hope you find some cool gay friends soon and thankyou for your comment !
Gay men go into our spaces and talk trash to the women and then cry and attack the and talk trash to the women and then cry homophobia while they're attacking the women at the same time
It's because of bullying in childhood/adolescence. That's not an excuse, just an explanation.
It’s like a defense mechanism…….but you’re right. Still no excuse.
"Reading" (i.e. insult comedy) is only socially acceptable when the library is open. What I dislike about drag race is it makes it seem like its cute or normal all the time. It isn't, and there are only very select circumstances in life where you won't be viewed like you stepped on a kitten if you're 'mean to be funny'.
Reading and shade is regular part of life even beyond the gays. Straight bros call it busting each others' balls. Some cultures like Filipino culture require roasting each other as part of accepting each other beyond our egos. The INTENTION of the roasting, reading is what is important. Is it to divide or to shatter differences that divide us? Gay men, reading should not be bullying!
@@zivaztianI disagree.
Reading is part of drag culture, but that's a very specific subset of gay culture (not all gay guys are drag queens, actually, only a small percentage are.) Reading between friends as drag queens is cool (sometimes), a very select few of those relationships are like that when it's acknowledged as healthy knocking between friends.
Even your reference "straight bros call it busting each others' balls" is off: You see it between straight men sometimes, but it does NOT mean all straight men appreciate it. My best friend - who's straight - was ripped on his (straight) friend Zane constantly (which Zane thinks is out of affection). If you asked my best friend (and I have), in his heart of hearts? He'd say he didn't like it: It was annoying.
But by and large - and this is the crux of my point - you shouldn't go around "reading" because you think it's cute, or expect people will think its amusing, or be something other than hurt when you read them and you aren't a drag queen.
You're so on point about misogyny amongst gay men. I'm gay with two sisters and no brothers, and I can never call anyone or especially women a "b****" or a "c***"- honestly sounds so much worse than a woman calling someone a dick.
Yeah honestly it’s so strange. I’ve seen gay guys be nasty or like pull girls hair and it be “okay” because they’re gay and I’m like whattttttt
That means you have decent sisters. I understand where the misogynistic gay-ness comes from (I don't agree with it though). It is because some gays have had really really REALLY SH!TTY female figures in their lives!
I have 3 sisters. The younger one has narcissistic personality disorder, the other 2 that are 1 year and 5 years older than me, they aren't narcissistic on an NPD level, but they are emotionally quite unavailable, both of them have a son each. Now, the younger sister is a whole different deadly beast of your worst damn nightmare: she made it her life's mission to "punish" me for ruining her life (that she did to herself): lying, gaslighting, defamation within family, blame shifting, always playing victim in bad situations that SHE herself created and nobody can be right except her.
The older sisters are much less problematic, but their behavior has really harsh consequences. They are the enablers, meaning they don't even bat an eye on the things that our younger sister does. They keep saying she and I are no better than eachother, both are the same, both need to this and that. They should stand up against her vile activities instead of letting her keep going full speed into the abyss, knocking people down on the way.
The reason they become and stay misogynistic is that they don't take the time to check facts and see things from different perspectives. It's easier to just say "every woman is a btch" than working on the deep traumas that vile females gave you all throughout your childhood.
tbh i don't even use the words bitch and cunt as insults. to me bitch is like the same thing as "dude" or "girl" and cunt to me is also literally a compliment. but that's just how i view it and use those words, i dont use them with people that i feel like wouldn't understand what i mean tho
Gay man like mean people because they feel like they weren’t able to lash out when they were younger so now they look to that level of confidence and invincibility
I would label myself a reformed mean gay. I agree, I think a lot of it stems back to being bullied for being gay at a young age. The gay sharp tongue is learned for protection and is hard to unlearn.
The 50% thing reminds me of the typical response to abuse and trauma. Usually there are two roads people will go. Either they become narcissists, egotistical and attack others before they get hurt themselves, or they turn to total empaths who are altruistic, people pleaser and can’t stand up for themselves because they have no/low self worth
As gay girl I don't think meanness is (or) should be considered a 'feminine' trade...I think that's toxic femininity, that's hurting everyone...It's literally tolerated bullying! I find it shocking that it is so accepted in gay culture ! But like you mentioned, unfortunately the worst ideas of womanhood get celebrated by gay men as the ideal "feminine' character trades...sad really and very unhealthy and divisive for ALL of us😥
Yes I think you’re very correct here! Fully agree with everything you’ve put and you’ve written it so eloquently. Thankyou for your comment :)
@@SilverDan10 Thankyou for this lovely response
Gay cis men still benefit from the patriarchy which is why I think some of them feel they can get away with shallow and hateful behaviours such as only deeming “attractive” people as valuable and everyone else who doesn’t happen to fit into their standards as below them.
how they benefit from patriarchy in this situation lmao, it only applies to straight men, when a gay guy discriminates someone it becomes an excuse for homophobia, the pass that straight men have does not apply to gay men
2:55 I often asked myself this question when "The Devil Wears Prada" movie was around. All these gay guys were living for that Amanda Priestly (Meryl Streep) character and that annoyed the F outta me.
That's such another great example of the mean gay role model archetype! Thank you for your comment :)
Omg yes I went out a few years ago with a cousin, and a gay couple she was friends with gave us a ride. A said hi to them literally just to be polite, and one of them was like “hi? 🙄” and the other didn’t acknowledge me. Like chill. I don’t even live in this city, I’m not trying to steal your man. I’m just being polite!
It’s so frustrating. I don’t have gay friends lmao.
Preach sis preach we need more gay men like you honestly... Why are people like you so rare😢
I know, right!?
Im a gay guy, 27, in the US and I Just found your channel while searching for gay dating advice.
You seem like such a sweetheart. You're precious. And you're so wise!
Subscribed. Keep being yourself and speaking youre truth! ❤️🦋
Awww what a lovely comment ! Thankyou so much for the subbie :)
My problem with 99% of gay advise videos is that they all talk and behave like woman in a stereotypical way.
I like guys and i dont want to feel like im listening to Trisha Paytas while they are talking.
@@GanjalfderGruene Thankyou for your opinion. I don’t think they’re purposefully behaving like anything. If a gay guy is feminine, than that’s just their natural personality. If they were to be masculine when they’re naturally not, they’d be pretending and putting an act on which just leads to unhappiness and is exhausting . You’re allowed to not be attracted to feminine gay guys, but there’s no point being rude towards a type of person just because you aren’t attracted to them.
@@GanjalfderGruene If you really want to watch a masculine gay man, there is this one guy I found a few years back and he talks about struggles and things as a masculine gay man. He's black, if that helps the search, but I'm not sure if he's still active. Can't think of his name right now. However, you can't blame feminine people for being feminine. That's not cool.
@@elianblossom im into feminine guys.
I just cant stand when they talk like trisha paytas.
I also cant stand it when women talk like that.
So true, I remember being at G-A-Y and the nastiness between strangers reading each other looks and outfits was intense, I didn’t feel welcome or comfortable
Aw bless you, I’m sorry you had to go through that. It’s honestly just so unnecessary and it annoys me even more when gay people put women down 😭
It's cruel and mean to treat anyone poorly. Like you point out in your video, my gay brothers who do so are just hitting back at the pain they have experienced from others. They become the same as their tormentors because it seems to be the only way to defend their own fragile egos against the constant attacks we suffer from society. I can understand that tactic. But I've never been friends with people like that. My dearest friends are kind, because they see themselves in the plight of others who have been ridiculed for who they are. They are kind because they have a measure of empathy. And there are many gay men like that. Wonderful, empathetic men really do exist.
Not only that but they can be so shallow and vapid. I came out late and it was honestly a very big disappointment. Up till this point i had been told how accepting my new community would be. It also me want to run screaming back into the closet.
Same, I came out relatively late at 26, real sense of anti climax. Luckily I'd made some good gay friends because I can honestly say some of the worst people I've ever met have been gay men.
I love your additude. Kindness is the key! Never stop being kind ❤
Thankyou ! 🥰
I've subscribed, thank you for growing enough emotional maturity to not be another bitchy queen, it helps to see a gay man like me that refuses to speak to people like trash, it's a natural strength x
It's one of the biggest reasons I've always been afraid to put myself out there. With how shallow and superficial gays can be, I already know what the outcome will be as a non skinny not conventionally attractive man, so already know what the outcome is gonna be. My confidence is not at a level capable of dealing with a read lol.
Same😢
100% me
There are so many bullies and mean people in the world and it makes me so sad. I was always bullied as a kid, especially by my family but also at school too. I have never been mean or nasty to anyone intentionally and I have never felt the urge to be mean to others. I'm just a shy and sweet girl who really just wants to get along with everyone.
jokes aside, some gay men are very misogynistic...
I feel like its lowkey a defensive mechanism (edit: oh dang didn't even get to that part of the vid lol)... just the already existing social pressure builds a stereotypical vision of a "socially acceptable or normal" gay person.😭
Like they cant get hurt by other people if they themselves become unapproachable and demean others
You’ve honestly hit the nail on the head !
I dont know any gay men at all and
I am a gay 55 year old . Im a workaholic and have 0 social life. It's not easy when you get older.
The thing is, most gay men think they can do insult comedy but really they can only do the insult part. A well executed read will always be funny and socially acceptable, because the point is to be able to get a truth across to someone without making them feel bad about it. It takes a lot of skill to do that well. And most can’t so they end up just saying something mean or bitchy.
Omg I agree! As a gay male, some gay men can be stuck up and just overall mean.
Sometimes I am intimidated by some gay men.
I was bullied in sixth grade for being gay and it damaged me, so the summer before seventh grade I decided that I did not want to be a victim anymore or be seen as week, so I thought that being mean was the only way to fight back, but it did me a disservice. I am glad that I no longer have this mindset. I don’t like being a mean person, I changed in the eighth grade and I am proud of it.
i love your vids so much. u having the vulnerability to say what needs to be said especially since all of these issues just arent being talked about enough in the gay community makes me and likely other gay men to actually make and hope for change. thank u xx
Dan thanks for posting. Been there.
Maybe improves with age. Most of the men at the Social this afternoon are gay: we're mostly 60-80 years old. Everyone was nice.
Trans gay guy here, the amount of mean gay men I’ve met in my high schools is ridiculous. Most are so rude for no reason you could say hi to them and they’ll just side eye you. I’m friends with a lot of queer people at my school, but not a lot of cis gay men, because they tend to be ruder and harder to get to know. I remember specifically this one time when I was talking to my queer friends during art class, a table right next to us were mocking us and a gay guy was with that table, laughing along with them. I couldn’t really believe it, those girls usually make fun of us for being unabashedly queer. I tried to talk to that guy after the whole incident, and he was just very quiet and would talk. I often feel ostracized as a trans gay guy, I’m Latino on top of that and I feel like there’s such a giant barrier between the whole community. It sucks. I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels like this thank you!
aw no problem, I'm really glad you related to some things in the video. It was exactly the same kinda story when I was in school, the gay guys who were openly out were always super mean so I just didn't have any other gay male friends 😭
@@SilverDan10 awkward gays stick together yehhh
I actually do not like the reading challenge on Drag Race. Total fast forward moment for me.
Your so right. I've said that several times
So much of what you said is relatable, i agree that many gay men should find it in their hearts to chill a little bit lol, and maybe try being nice, at least to other gay people. I guess some of that mean streak is a survival mechanism, for many gay men it's their version of strength and empowerment, and it could be so useful to show support to gay people that might be struggling in their lives, but instead they use that power for evil, and it's not new either. It's kinda sad because it doesn't do any favors to the community or helps to be seen in a more positive light.
Thank you SOO much for this
No problem ❤️🖤
Im glad you spoke about this, thought i was one of the few getting mad about it. Im not a gay guy but a bi girl, bad girls get glamourised and then the b* behaviour kind of ends up getting romanticised. I realised why because i do know a drag queen who use to work in pantomimes, mostly always ended up having to play the ugly step sisters till finally getting a better role, so i now associate it as guys trying to play the ugly step sister role.
I also knew as i watched Trixie, as i absolutely loved Trixie who was bullied first time on rupauls drag race because they were so mean about makeup, thankfully Trixie eventually won.
Matthew and Paul are very sweet though with mr maple, i was shocked to see no b* behaviour there.
Then i cant remember what channel it was where people speak to their exs but it was greatly sumerised there. This guy who was really sweet got cheated on by his wife, left with 3 kids single father, as he was bi he decided to try dating men but his ex on the show... cheated on him and said how hard dating while gay is because many men arent there looking for genuine relationships just to get f* then move on.
With this i found it especially sad because his ex had trouble or something so despite him being heart broken by this guy he helped him and in the end decided he couldnt be with this guy (it was people trying to take exs back i think).
Man, I love your content! You are speaking the truth! 😊
Thanks for speaking up about this ❤
No problems x
@@SilverDan10 those demons literally try to eat our hearts and sometimes love is not enough to protect it. BUT i will never give into the hate :)
I have met some mean gays and let me just say I am on the polar opposite of that personality spectrum I am so shy and I like to form meaningful connections so that is why I changed the way I live to avoid people like this I don't drink or club or do anything just to avoid these people lol
For me looking up to the mean girl archetype is more about just the fantasy of saying “fuck you whatever” whenever any type of adversity comes up. I would wager that for most of us, adversity is so much more of a roadblock, and most of us can’t just say “I’m skinny and hot so whatever”
I don’t really “look up” to them so much as I just wish I could have the absolute gall.
I love this perspective !
in my opinion reading is only cool when you do it with people that you're already close with and in a way that isn't actually offensive instead of just straight up mean. there's definitely a time, place and a right way to do it
I don't know, I would say that people are mean only because they can be. No one has ever stood up to them and put them in their right position. I mean if someone wants to get back home with a black eye, they should comment about the clothes or body of a stranger (I hate bullies more than anything). Call me bullophobic, all I care...
This is so true!!!! I have trouble understanding social cues sometimes. Basically I’m really really overly excited a lot and just really “whoopee everything’s fun lala” and my other gay friend is always making me so sad. He’s always telling me “stop being so happy” like girlll 😢
My advice: Let your friend know that it’s just who you are and that you’re not trying to annoy or offend anyone intentionally. *_So long as you’re not hurting anyone, keep being yourself…_*
And if that friend _~still~_ makes you feel bad after all is said and done, I’d start to try and distance yourself from them. Because as the saying goes when referring to yourself and who you are, *_“Those who mind don’t matter, and those who matter don’t mind.”_* You’ll find your community of people, just gotta keep looking! 😊🙌🏾☀️🫂✨
Drop that "friend". Telling others to "not be happy" is such a red flag and you're way better off without them.
Its interesting you mentioned regina george "the baddies" on the scene only watch coming of age movies like its addiction vecause theyre reliving their coming of age but they way they would like to. They were treated badly in highscool or were nerds and were wounded some way or another for being who they were so they associate who they are as being feminine and who they wish to be is a strong untouchable female in school. The cycle of abuse and trauma goes round and round, it happens to them and they do it to others. They dont even realise that theyre in a cycle of abuse because they think thats how the world is. Abuse paints your world and you dont know otherwise.
There’s definitely privilege as a woman if you fit beauty standards amongst gay men. I’ve never really encountered mean gays but I know it’s because of how I look. I’ve seen gay men be quite abrupt with more butch women but then revert back to being more chivalrous with me. It does feel very shallow at times, and I have questioned whether people in the community are actually happy or is everyone just pretending? I say this as someone who is part of it.
When you talked about fictional characters like Regina George, it made me think about a character named Bayonetta, who is very famous among queer people in gaming circles due to her witt and unapologetic femininity.
But unlike the other characters mentioned in the video, Bayonetta isn't malicious. Bayonetta is a genuinely kind woman who protects the innocent, loyal to her friends, and motherly to children who have no one else to go to.
The only characters that Bayonetta will be snarky towards are either life-long friends, or enemies who ruined the lives of her and others.
I literally love Bayonetta! She’s such a great example of a positive unapologetically feminine role model. Thankyou so much for your comment :)
@@SilverDan10 your video is amazing! Its bringing light to a very big issue in the gay community that needs to be addressed more.
@@Val17282 thabkyou so much!!! ❤️
Years of being torn down by everyone around you can negatively make you a villain literally 🤷🏻♂️ the disapproval/rejection makes you jaded to society in general. It’s like why would I be kind to people I know whisper behind my back!
Edit: it’s just reflecting back onto society whats being internalized.
I agree with you 100%
They are also very judgmental as well as mean.
It's trauma and the cycle of trauma. 50% of gays are healing from trauma or don't require healing and the other 50% don't realise they are wounded and require healing. I'm a drag queen and I've lived with many drag queens but there is one in particular that has NPD and can instinctually pick out people's biggest insecurities and use it, she's made me cry plenty of times lol. The gay scene is where gay men go to find themselves and process their abandonment trauma etc. reading is gay culture it's actually really funny when someone can read you precisely because it's the A the truth and B it's funny. There's creativity involved and humour is a mirror that allows us to see ourselves.
We are all on a journey of self discovery and there's going to be ups and downs but the whole process is beautiful so go along and feel your feelings, if it's wrong then tell them otherwise. The scene is toxic but on a metaphysical level we are capable of transmuting the poison into the cure.
Tons of dysfunction.
Your hair is gorgeous man
Stoppp it I’ll actually cry 🥺❤️
Thankyou so much :)
Haha that’s because they are insecure and you have a quality which they are jealous or envious about and will try to pull you down.
I agree, that’s definitely a big part of it :/
You forgot immensely immature and very insecure so attack all cos they haven’t got anything and the person who has worked hard has
ur so funny 🤣 also i agree w u so much
HAHAHAH thankyou 😂😂
This. Whole. Video!!
So mean 😢 because of men’s egos
A queen at the door?! wtf never have I heard of a door guy being a queen
I feel like one of the reasons why many Gay Men like characters like Regina George is because growing up Gay in a homophobic society is not easy. Even more so when you grow up in a very secluded, conservative town like I did. It comes from a need to stand up for yourself and be strong against people who treat you badly because of homophobia. People give you a hard time and you tend to feel alone because it's hard to find people who understand you. You might get bullied and as a result you get scared. People all around you make it clear that to them, being Gay is disgusting, unnatural and shameful, so in the midst of all that toxicity, you find solace in the Queen Bee archetype, because they're fierce, unapologetically feminine, glamorous and everybody respects them or fears them and you wish you were as strong and confident as them because you're drawn to the idea of having enough power to make sure that NOBODY could mess you and that if they did, they would end up regretting it. At least, that was the case for me. That's why I love Regina George and Alison DiLaurentis. Sure, they're mean, they're terrible people, but they're unapologetic about who they are and everybody either admires them or hates them but AT LEAST nobody would even dare to LOOK at them in a bad way.
It just because THEY got a problem. Don’t make it your problem…just ignore them. In the end its just bad behavior and a lack of bad self worth from there part. They feel better when someone else is feeling bad….what a sad person. So smile and just be happy that you are the good one❤️❤️
I always feel more comfortable in straight bars. Gay bars are so judgy and nasty. I feel like my guard is up the second I walk through the door. it’s ironic to me that I feel safer in a straight bar. I don’t know maybe that’s progress in society in some weird way.
depends on which bar youre going, never felt this
I'm trans women from Serbia, I find your channel so interesting 😍 where do you live? UK?
Hello and thankyou so much that means a lot to me x. Yes, I live in England :)
Sounds humans not just gay men.
This is so crazy because most gay men just instantly hate me 😂 I've had only two gay friends in my entire life.
I was wearing my favorite white and blue stripy shirt.
I went to a gay bar and was waiting for a freiend when a man started staring at me from the other side of the bar.
He toasted with his drink when I noticed him. He came to me after a few minutes and said:
You are the most attractive person in the bar. (Which was very easy at that time and point). I said thank you.
He continued by saying: But never wear that shirt again. It makes you look like toothpaste.
I laughed my ass off and gave him a hug. That was the funniest thing ever. I ordered a drink for him.
As long as what you say is funny, I don't care!
I love gay humor!
Damn, you said a mouthful.
My sweet little gayby ass thought the ‘mos would be happy, fun, warm, and welcoming when I first came out. Instead, I found myself surrounded by damaged dudes who’d built up an armed defense of bitchiness by default.
Now, however, I just kind of find the act trite and unbecoming
I disagree 100%.... literally, I could be having the worst day of my life and randomly some gay dude will cross my path and compliment me out of nowhere. Y'all treat me like a god, eyeballing me, smiling at me, approaching me, hitting on me, etc., straight up, I think you are all really nice.
hey cutie. watching this and just thinking about a diff angle-is it possible to not completely cast the definite meanness that comes from the community as all bad or irrational? your experience is one me and a lot of other queer men have shared (as both performing and receiving this energy) and i can’t help but wonder if a shared trend is based in something meaningful?
bitchy gays have a lot of energy and i think if we think about it a lot of where that comes from may be experiences only other gay and queer ppl can even understand. bitchy in a not good way gays should work harder to be more kind and inclusive of others. id love to see us evolve past our divisions however we end up after growing up in a shared repressive space. 💙
I completely agree with this. It’s definitely come from a place of survival but I don’t think it’s beneficial to keep it up for too long. thank you so much for your comment :)
I don't even finish watching it, I'll give it like and hopefully the video will get 4 views, just kidding, let it be 4 million, just so I wrote that you find a service that will allow you to promote your channel.
People are so scared hurt and lonely hurt people hurt people just keep that space in your brain clear and alert DO YOU
I think people in general are mean tbh. I avoid people & I avoid TV programs & dramas. The only thing I can enjoy is something like Heartstopper. I prefer playing videogames. I socialised more when I lived in Japan because people have very good manners. They may be mean, but they won’t verbalise it. If I don’t hear it, I’m happy. I’m so naive & simple.
There are alott like like where are the discribing adjectives , sorry i know it's so mean but all the like like like i too often hear makes me nervous .
Have you read Straight Jacket?
Yes ! It’s amazing! Thinking of doing a video on the velvet rage too if you’ve read that also. Both them books really helped me with my confusion over gay male behaviour
I feel like its a human problem, gays fight with their words where straights fight with their fists on reality tv
Don't hate on all white guys. We struggle too.
Of course not all white gays. But there's a section of those who believes they're superior to anyone that's not white. The cream of the crop mentality. And it makes the community look hypocritical for not checking that
Dude, what u vent here, vent to a person to does that. If someone is mean to you, call them out on it in the moment. Don’t let it be normal for you. You are 24. In 10 years, you will fully realize how what we think is “normal” in our youth isn’t. We were just surrounded by shitty people.
The problem is the company you keep - not the gay community.
I Work at the airport for an airline (full of gay guys) I was so excited to make potentially gay friends, they look at you like you’re invisible 🫥🫥🫥
Or you're like Hi 👋
And they're like 😐
Honestly just the average experience of tryna make gay friends sometimes 😭😭. It really shocked my system when that happened to me first time going to gay bars 😔
5:40
So mean because they were treated like crap.
You're sooo cute wow 🥺
Thankyou so much!!!
Sad that gay people are mean especially if you say hello. There was not much like that while I was in my 20s.
now....sour
They are also very homophobic.
oh dan drag qweens are mean always have been always will be
I mean u are not fat...at all... so I think u got the joke wrong.,,,your channel is very sweet but pls take no offence its slightly naive.... I can see that I'm too old to be following u , so good luck with the future ❤❤
What does it mean😂
Yes, it's a mixed bag. However, I've met some incredibly bitchy guys whom I find repulsive. Don't worry too much about them. They are obviously not happy.
What kinds of gays are you around? Gay men have been amongst the most loving, kind and supporting people i have known. I dont accept toxic people into my life
As a majorly gay man, I’ve never understood the appeal towards hyperfemininity in the gay community. I’m not the most masculine gay man (I have a masculine appearance, but mostly feminine behavior), but I tend to find hyperfeminine gay men to be insufferable. Also, I don’t understand why gay men like pop music so much. I’m a gay metalhead, and I wear that badge with honor.
I think everyone just finds you annoying, you should try to meet different people altogether
Clean that house pumpkin - maybe you’ll find a mirror - which could fix most of your problems…..
Thankyou for proving the whole point of this video
@@SilverDan10 Actually- it’s encouragement…..