Want to learn to draw? Don't start with a pencil. How to Draw #10
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5:24 "Don't strive for perfection, reach for knowledge." Golden words. Thank you, Danny.
Great quoo to remember no matter where you are on your artistic journey ❤
For some reason i compared this to relationships. Living together is drawing with pencil, but marriage is drawing with pen. Too many people treat marriage like it's drawing with pencil, instead of finding ways to solve the issues together and working with what they have already marked on the paper of their lives
Love that analogy!
I would say it's the opposite. Marriage is drawing with a pencil. You lock yourself because you are scared of mistakes. You need vows to reassure yourself. Not being married is like drawing with a pen. It's raw. It's there, there no safety net. There's no vows, a ring or a lock. It's all about trust because you are not attached.
Great analogy ❤
That’s so true!
So interesting! For me, the pencil allowing me to erase and try again- it’s all about forgiveness. We see the old lines we know where the error was and we know we can stick with it and try the other way.
This is so true. I started sketching with pens but when I switched to pencil, I was erasing wayyyyyyy way way more than I drew and I felt like I never got anywhere.
I’d never given this much thought before. Don’t erase your past. Profound on so many levels. I’ve been drawing with a pencil in one hand and an eraser in the other - just as you described, probably in more areas of my life than just paper. That changes tomorrow.
This inspired me to do a 30-day pen only challenge. I always draw a lot of unnecessary lines, and I've always wanted to change that.
How did you do?
@yvonneoy3124 alright, I got like 3 small drawings done so far. It definitely makes me careful putting down lines. Got a long way to go.
@@ypdd91 I love pen and ink. Keep going
I'm 62, and I only started drawing/sketching 1½ years ago. I heard this advice of using ink about a year ago while watching Karen Rice. It completely changed me, for the same reasons you state in your great video. My confidence has gone through the roof! I was so scared to draw people; now I purposely draw them quite often, sometimes in a restaurant or coffee shop, or doctor's waiting room. Wherever, really.
I love your videos, Danny. You deliver great advice in a very personal, interesting, sincere manner. It's as if you are talking directly to me.
Thank you.
*_You are a great instructor and I appreciate your ability to encourage students to apply a positive mindset to their mistakes._* I Appreciate the time and effort you take to make art more accessible to everyone and you do so with a well thought out and patient manner.
Exactly!
As an intimidated, sketchy-line maker with pencils, I needed to hear this.
I never used pen until after the pandemic when it was difficult to get pencils... any pencils. My pencils rarely ever had any erasers. I never used them anyway. I often made my own pencils by charring the end of sticks. Yep, my childhood seldom provided such a luxury as a #2 pencil. And, it I did have one, I left in the teachers desk to keep the other kids from stealing it from me. So, at home, I made my own stick pencils and did my homework with them. I'm still getting used to pens, and am experimenting with the newer Sharpie gel pens and a fountain pen I got for Christmas.
I love these lessons and as I think about them as I was drawing with pencil I was doing all those things you described. When I started the LTD series, the pen scared the fool out of me. Now it is my friend and it does make me slow down to commit to my next line or shape. Thanks so much for these thoughts behind the actions it makes the learning stick for me. I have always needed the why behind things.
Hello Theresa, I'm absolutely with you on this! I woke up today, only just realising that for the past two weeks I have been sketching directly in pen. I hadn't realised how much my confidence as a 'newbie' has grown since LTD. Your comments resonate so much :)
I found your channel yesterday & the saying “when the student is ready the teacher will come” or something like that lol, I’ve always been creative, was a pianist growing up, family were all art orientated, & although I was very creative I couldn’t paint or draw for the life of me. Then 18yrs ago I suffered a terrible crisis & an art friend sat me down in front of a canvas & paints as therapy. I did it for ages suddenly realising I could if I just practiced, but sketching was always something I simply thought I couldn’t grasp. That’s until now, finding this channel has opened my eyes to all possibilities & I am racing out to buy a sketchbook & pen not pencil, today. I look forward to following the channel.
Thank you for this. I am in my 50’s and a beginner. The problem I seem to have with advice from artists is that they teach you to draw like them, not just to draw. This is not a criticism - they can’t help it - what else can anyone do really? There does not seem to be a lot of advice to help people find their own style and level. Your advice here is one of those pieces of gold - not teaching someone to draw like you, but teaching us to find our own way. I hope this makes sense. Your type of help is why I subbed to your channel. I am very grateful to you. 🙏💝
My pen attempts are currently awful! 🤷🏼♀️🤓 But I can absolutely see the value and am continuing. 🙂
I forget which French artist gave this advice to whom, but "Have no fear of being banal. Your originality will come through just fine."
@@denisewenke8323I hear you. ☺️
An inspiring video. My 7 year old daughter draws with confidence and is completely fearless with regards to the outcome of her work. It's amazing how as adults we tend to lose this ability. A pen is a great idea! 👏
Danny! I have been learning from you since your earliest books & videos & THIS IS YOUR BEST LESSON yet for me. Thank you so very much!
Wow, thank you!
“Don’t strive for perfection; reach for knowledge”. Succinct words of wisdom. Thank you for this reminder! 😊
I used to use pencil to do those square doodles, wanting each square to look polished (erase and redraw). This year I bought an extra fine fountain pen for it.
I don’t get rid off anything except scrap paper for color testing. Every piece is my effort and journey.
I took that leap because i wanted freedom from perfection. Started using pens, crayons, oil pastels, sharpies, anything i couldnt erase.
It doesnt take long to stop being scared of mistakes. In fact, i quite like the odd glaring mistake line...reminds me that im human.
The main thing, if you are after accuracy is learning to vary your pressure. Lightest pressure to rough in initial shapes. Light for contours. Heavy for corrections and final drawing. The lighter lines give it cool history when the drawing is complete.
Using non-erasables gave me a surprising confidence that i could pick up any media and be ok.
I’m so happy I can finally disagree with something you’ve said😂 what a relief. Using a pencil allows you to sculpt. It gives you easy range of darkness/light. Pencils are totally genius and have done more to help me fall in love with drawing than any pen. And I have a lot of kinds of pens, I love pens. Pentel pg1003 and pg 1009 these are my favorite, mechanical pencils.
You might want to check out Jono Dry's channel. He claims he does pencil drawings, but in actuality they are graphite paintings. For him, erasers are important drawing tools, rather than simply mistake removers. In his hands, erasing the graphite creates texture and three-dimensional volume (ie, tonal value changes).
All true. People make gorgeous art with pencils. My advice is specifically for people who are just starting out.It's based on my own experience. Yours may differ.
This is such empowering advice. I started with pen, then switched to pencil+eraser for all the reasons you have articulated. Switching back today. I'm only a couple of months into my journey so this was well timed.
Thank you Danny! I realised today that I took my 'stabilisers' off two weeks ago and switched to pen without even realising it!
Fantastic!
By hook or by crook I am going to draw!!🥹🙌🏾
Drawing in pen is the best advice I ever saw. I believe it may have even been one of your videos. I used to waste all of my time trying to make things perfect. Now if I make a mistake I just get on with it, or (very rarely) start again.
Glad it was helpful!
Oh Danny i love your videos. Makes so much sense. Love yo❤️
Excellent video! Loved this! Thanks!
Thank you for your encouraging words! I appreciated your comparison of a child learning to walk. 😊
New way of looking at this. Encouraging, too. Thanks.
Sage advice.
Thanx muchly!
I love this!
Excellent video. Thank you.
Wonderful advice and encouragement-thank you.
Good lesson. Thank you!
I've been learning to draw and paint over the last couple of years.
I did what you suggested and switched to drawing with a pen instead of my beloved pencil. You know what?
Doing so got me more reliably in the flow state
It took less time with a pen
I'm not wearing out my eraser
It gives me more joy
And, surprisingly my pencil-erase drawings are not better than drawing with a pen.
Who knew?
Thank you.
Awesome!
Done this for a while, when you go back to pencil after using pen for so long you gain a better understanding of how to use a pencil as well
Thankyou Danny for breaking down the boundaries to being creative, I have always drawn with a pencil, afraid to be bold and just draw. Afraid to be wrong and learning from my mistakes. I will continue to be bold and remap my mind for creativity and not perfection.
Brilliant!
Yes!
Ok, this video did not go how I thought it would. As a new, (2.5 months) 68 year old artist and aspiring to watercolor, line and wash particularly ... to work on my drawing skills, I have been using a pen, but on/in a Rocketbook. Rocketbook is a "notebook" with pages that are whiteboard-like and thus erasable. BUT, what I have been doing is practicing, practicing ... and preserving my dated efforts by taking photos and adding to an album on my phone. BUT, I can then erase and ultimately use less paper while still preserving my progress. I find a pen allows a more fluid and faster line without the hesitation you describe with pencil.
When I looked at the video title, I thought you might be going down the path of faster, smoother drawing via pen which has been my experience. I did not anticipate the "no mistake" take ...
I am navigating both: smoother drawing and preserving mistakes AND using less paper. To each their own, but for any who want a less paper approach ... take a look at Rocketbook. There are likely other brands. I am not affiliated at all but I have seen great value in pen erasable not only for art.
thank you so much! you dont know how much i looked for you and your smurt and kinde lessons! thank you thank you thank you! Tamar from Israel
Thank you, you're the best.
Yes, yes, yes, Danny Gregory!
Thanks for that video! I started to learn to draw as a medium to cure my quest to perfection by learning to accept imperfection as the only path to perfection. And it’s not by denying it I’ll ever get there
Great lesson!
Thanks! 😃
This is EXCELLENT advice! I always draw better with a pen!
Switching over to using a pen was a total game-changer for me. It didn't happen immediately after I switched instruments, but I got there pretty fast after that initial switch. I sure as heck still make a weird straggly line but it doesn't happen as often as you'd think it would.
5:51 thought you were going to say : draw that f »(&@ line !
‘Channel that big swinging pen energy” 😂 thats the mantra for today. Love your videos Danny!
❤loved this program DANNY! Just what I needed to hear. KATIE ❣️ KENTUCKY😊!
I'm pumped now, letsss goooo!!
Thank you! I did just that, drew a piece in my sketchbook with a fude pen and carbon black ink. BEFORE this video aired, how cool is that? But your encouragement is something I needed. I used a photo I took of a gorgeous canna in my backyard (reddish orange bloom with burgundy leaves). I sketched it out and I would say it’s a pretty good sketch. Then I liked it enough to take it to my desk and water colored it in. I can’t wait to try again tomorrow. My pencil looked sad. Lol
Love ya man
Thank you Danny! I do not own or use a pencil, only pens. Liberating. Agree with everything you have pointed out.
Seems to me it comes down to this: If you set out to make a nice picture (a product), you need absolute control, so that nothing _not_ nice 'spoils' your product. So you need an eraser to protect your goal and your time invested. But if you set out to put your materials, your body, your curiosity, and your esthetic sense into a present-tense _relationship,_ then you won't be judging any of your marks as 'errors'.
I am that shaggy type xD
But also with a pen, not only pencil.
It also tricks me into thinking the drawing is more detailed than it actually is
In the first video of yours that I watched, you advised us to use a pen. I'm glad you did. Thank you!
Seriously …what a timing … always loved and admired drawers/painters. Loved to draw also… got old, wife kids…the whole shabang. Was not bad in science …so I stopped. But I missed .
Started not long time ago.
You said it all. Thank you 🙏
Would love to know where to start the real journey but …I suppose whatever … just take paper and a pen…!?
Nicely worded, bro. I have a lot of nice pencils… that I don’t use. I use pens, be bold, embrace mistakes, and love it.
Pen made my art progress because I could see my mistakes. Ever since I started using it I don't do useless lines
Thanks for this video. I'm looking forward to using my kakuno fountain pen and my deleter pen holder. My personal problem is paper waste which makes me hesitant to work. Maybe I'll do paper mache. Thanks for the great videos
You can always draw with a digital drawing tablet. No paper involved.
Wow, I finally actually switched from pencil to pen for my first drawing and the vividness of it surprised me. I accept the lines are not straight, the curves are slightly skewed... but gradually I feel more confident and free
Ah ha. Lithbulb moment as I asked you this question in an earlier video. Now I have my answer, thanks.
I like this advice: look, wait, until you are ready to place your line confidently, & use a pen to help encourage that mindset.
Wow. I spoke too soon, giving a comment before watching to the end. This is one of the best art videos ever, that I know will make a difference for me. I've done so much research, & had other life tasks to do, that I've been preparing to do hands on art again, after life blows knocked me out of it. And I wanted a clear plan, which I now have. I want to start with your lessons & drawing the way you are teaching. I've been watching while doing life tasks, & now I'm glad I watched this before getting started. I needed this encouragement to draw the way described in the video- taking time to look & draw a confident line. I was pretty good at drawing, but I've had a long break, & i think this will really help me. I'm so thankful.
This is a quote from Jono Dry's video posted 1/18/24 regarding dealing with making mistakes: "...really try and reframe the mistake-making process as an opportunity to learn a lesson." (I guess I ought to listen, considering the universe has served me up the same message twice in short order.)
Totally agree, I learned this at school, as I was not very interested in my school lessons 😉, but I don’t really regret it, as I learned to draw with pen instead 😊
Thanks for sharing!
I like this guy... Ive always been attracted to pen and ink as a go-to art medium, but I was too timid to trust the process... Why?? because I AM concerned about wasting paper - especially those pages in bound drawing journals. Im just too damn old now to worry any more about precision or accuracy... Im going to draw with ink from now on and screw pencil... Maybe ill just keep my drawings small to save on paper. 🎯
Thank you for your videos. Do you also do digital drawings?
Yes I do! I love using Procreate
Thank you for your response. Perhaps you can intermix digital tutorials with hand drawing tutorials 🙏
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I will use a pencil and a pen
6:04 Thanks to Barbie, I've learned of Ken-ergy. And now, from you, I've discovered Pen-ergy. 😂
LOL!
Bold confident slowing down tread carefully but make a mistake. Big deal. It's fun.
Schön, endlich mir deutschen Untertitel ❤
I use a marker. I always have.
I also love using a pen for the simple reason that i can see the lines, pencils make very subtle lines so its hard see the lines and therefore the mistakes. With a pen i see the mistakes right away, and it also look nicer. Pen wins ! 😄
Thanks for sharing!
Can I use ballpoint? Or has to be a more thick ink?
Ballpoint works fine. If you are resting your hand on an area you've already drawn, you may want to lay a piece of paper over that so it doesn't smudge or smear.
Ballpoint. Gel pen. Roller ball. Dip pen. Fountain pen. All that matters is that you don't have the temptation to erase.
I buy my pencils without erasers because I use an extra bigger one and the ones attached to pencil usually are quite crappy 😅
Me just starting out exploring graphite and charcoal - and now you are telling me it`s a big mistake?
But yes, our teacher at school once did the same. We - days long gone I know - switched from mechanical typewriters to electrical powered ones for the test. I would have been happy about the eraser feature but they removed the correction tape of it
So I was totally doomed. Not only the typing was way more sensitive than I was used too no chance to delete mistakes either. It was just awful.
Никого не слушайте. Это просто контент учителя. Учителям все равно что наговаривать в своих видео или книгах. Это их собственные тараканы и проблемы. Живите своим умом и своим опытом - это и есть креативность. Учитель только консервирует и потом продает консервы.
Can I have a pen in bubble wrap ! ??
Nope . No training wheels. My dad jus held bike while I got on. Then he pushed bike as fast as he could. Was a bit scary . Then I ended up in a bush.. bike caught on branches never fell over. So We did it again again. Till I balanced . On my own. Only took an hour.
Please don't say this sentence of being "just paper". I hear this from so many artists and it bothers me. There once was a tree who died for this "just paper", there once was a cottonfield in monoculture with pesticides. I know exactly, what you want to say. But the paper is worth and has a value. You choose it for its tooth, color, smoothness, brightness, touch. It is definitely not "just paper" to throw away with disrespect.
Nevertheless, I like your channel and all those informations.
Yeah i thought the same.
Thats why i Love junk Journaling. Value what you would otherwise throw away.
You can do this with drawing as well. Just youse scrap paper for your sketches. Don't throw it away just because there are two lines on it
@@heikesiegl2640 Exactly, Heike. I like to paint on tanned paper from old Manila Folders. The result is very special. I rescue all sorts of paper, which is not always a good idea, because there is so much of it. But you can draw, craft, paint, wrap gifts, make patterns for sewing, cut out pictures, make envelopes, cards (no need for buying any paper). Lately I rescued some boxes of paper labels for a printer. Any suggestions what to do with them besides painting/printing my own washi?
Funny, I had the same reaction. It's a great vid and great advice - practicing with pen instead of pencil all the time - but his remark on this point misses an opportunity (unintentionally, I am sure, judging from the rest of the vid). Rather than devalue the paper, I would like to value both the paper and my mistake. If I make a mistake drawing, it means I'm drawing, and everyone is doing their job - me, my pen, my paper.
I came the same view a few years ago - pens are much better. And ... I just like the look of ink on paper, even bad drawings!
It's a completely different medium. Just don't use the rubber.
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Erasing the past is no way to make progress. You're still talking about art aren't you? Sounds like some life lessons as well. Great advice. Thank you.😂
Crying...😭🥹
No more erasing.
Thank you. I'm definitely Subscribing.