Top 10 Things The Dropout Got Factually Right & Wrong
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- What did "The Dropout" right right and wrong? For this list, we’ll be looking at what’s fiction and what’s stranger than fiction in this Hulu miniseries about the rise and fall of Elizabeth Holmes. Our countdown includes Brendan Morris, Holmes' voice, Theranos partnering with Walgreens, and more! What do YOU think of "The Dropout?" Let us know in the comments!
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@Trami Nguyen yuppie ii
Was it not CVS and not Walgreens? I am so confused! In real lie it was CVS!
@@amandadosanjos3994, no, it was Walgreens. The video has the real photo of the ribbon cutting.
The fact that you only had to label two items “Right AND Wrong” because the characters were based on two different actual people is frightening. The more I watched, the more I hate that woman and what she did. If her boy toy husband/partner is smart, he’ll dump her, take his son away and make sure he never is under her influence again. She is a narcissist and a possibly a psychopath.
@@amandadosanjos3994 WALGREENS MY FRIEND 🫡✌️🙏☺️
I really liked this show, there seems to be a trend of "Based on a true story" dramas recently. I love how Amanda gradually deepened her voice as the episodes progressed.
yes! noticed that too!
wecrashed
the girl from plainville
inventing anna
the dropout
all about narcissism and sociopaths.
Yeah, I love it at various points people spotted her voice changed and she switched back to her normal voice.
It’s because with so many streaming services there’s a need for a lot of content
I agree. Me and you watch the same stuff. I’m not interested in it if it’s not true.
Yes real story maybe look her up before watching something
Oh damn. I'm even more disgusted with Elizabeth Holmes now I know that Ian Gibbeon's story and suicide are accurate. So sad 💔😭
Me too
I cried like a baby for him. What she did to him was the worst, and all he wanted to do was the right thing. 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Ian deserved so much better. He seemed like such a nice guy and was one of few people at Theranos who was actually trying to do the right thing. I hope Elizabeth rots in prison for a long time.
Omg me too 😭 I had no idea this happened.
@@12harrypotterfan34 she was sentenced to 15years only and probably could have the years lessen by parole or good behavior
The part about Ian Gibbons broke my heart. When he said, "I thought she was my friend." I started balling. I also have a weakness for sweet old men because they remind me of my Grandpa. My favorite scene was when he and Brendan were throwing shade and he won it by saying, "I'm having more fun being so fucking British." and drops the tea filter into his mug. They started as rivals then became good friends and they respected one another. I know they weren't that close in real life but I admire Tony Nugent taking it upon himself to send out the email to his close colleagues.
Yeah, I had to skip the scene where he commits suicide because I couldn’t even handle that that was his end. As someone who both lost and uncle to cancer in the past year and as someone who has gone through the trials of cancer, it is tragic that he had won that battle but still ended in suffering. In fact, uncle I lost reminded a great deal of gibbons and I think that’s what made it so gut reaching for me. They were nearly the same age too. It’s just tragic and, in my opinion, made holmes’ demise so much more vengeful personally.
@@alexandriaconstandinoglu147 I wanted to jump through screen and slap her after she got over the shock and said “we won” because he couldn’t testify. If she actually goes to jail, she’ll miss out on her kid growing up. That plus saying goodbye to her billions.
It was very hard to watch knowing what was going to happen. I feel it’s very important though to tell his story for the world and to see how hard his wife fought for him afterwards. Otherwise we wouldn’t have known about him. RIP Ian. ✌🏾❤️
@@Lunasent you’re in good luck she’s been sentenced for 10 years. But not enough imo
@@kittenritty7959 Where did you hear that? And only 10? 10? After all of that! What happened to the other 10?
All these idols who "dropped out" were monied kids of wealthy parents. They had a lot less in the way of obstacles than the average person. THEY ALSO HAD THE CASH TO INVEST. The average joe doesn't get into Stanford, whether they drop out or not. There is a terrible idea that dropping out was a sign of success...
Elizabeth Holmes was also a monied kid of wealthy parents though.
A big difference between all those tech dudes and Holmes is that they stayed strictly inside the tech field, something that can be learnt by yourself provides you have the time. Holmes, on the other hand, tried to mesh tech and a whole bunch of other sciences like chemistry, medicine, biology, etc. Those are fields that require many years to learn, let alone master them. And, of course, their results are directly tied to people's lifes. Messing a blood result is very serious.
@@FernandoMartinez-om2nj
Holmes was a classic example of the "star fu@#&!" Syndrome": someone a "blue ribbon" looking person who is great on TV and video, who seems to know what they are doing, and flirty with everyone who could bank her...she "personally" went to see everyone she thought would have influence and twist it in her favor. It's not that she was a narcissist, a liar and a swindler, she also ably manipulated a bunch of intelligent professors to do everything she wanted, ruining their reputations and showing the world that blondes still occasionally have more fun. I think about what Madame CJ Walker did for women, all by herself, and it makes me even madder that Holmes pulled women back by being a dangerous jerk screwing with desperate, dying people hoping for a miracle. The snake oil salesman of the old west has turned into a impersonation of steve jobs...and is responsible for a lot of damage to people who can't afford it....
@@FernandoMartinez-om2nj
Agree! I grew up in Palo Alto, right next to Stanford, and the pressure is unbelievable to succeed, people feel that they have to produce miracles, and it's expected. I hate what happened in Palo Alto. It was so peaceful and beautiful. Now I can't even go visit...its just a giant, expensive pressure cooker...full of really over entitled kids with a terrible sense of values. It made me move as far away as I could get. I was proposed to several times by millionaires who had money, but nothing else. I decided to pick someone with no money who wanted me to be the artist I wanted to be. Being an artist to me, meant being around exciting, open minded people who DIDN'T talk about money. Anything else would be art, just not rich people. I did meet a cool guy who dropped out of UT AUSTIN so go to see great bands. He was perfect, didn't even have a phone and lived in a run down, haunted old mansion in a sketchy part of town. San Antonio was perfect. 35 years later, we are still living our dream lives and I haven't produced anything astounding, but mural furniture and sell it, sometimes. I get inspiration from the gulf of Mexico, we plan to move to the beach for our old age. What a blast, a dream come true!!!
The problem with Holmes is that she wanted to be like the others. Unlike the others who wanted to create something and set their own path. You don't dropout just because others did that. You dropout if that makes sense TO YOU.
I worked in a large medical lab for 13 years. She deserves all the prison time and should've been found guilty of patient harm too. Gross negligence on her part probably because she didn't understand the lab 🙃 a college degree would've helped.
A college degree in the life sciences would've qualified her for an entry-level lab tech job in her company.
I think what we have to remember here is that she never had a job in her life. Never. She never had a boss in her life. She went right from being a high school student to one year in college to founding her company. She always made the rules and never had to obey anyone. As such, she never bothered to listen to any of her subordinates who told her that something wasn't working. If she had worked for others before she might have been able to listen to others. That never happened so, she is what she is.
Yes, she is going to prison for 20 years. She probably hasn't a clue as to why she will be going to prison for 20 years. Sociopaths never understand that they have to be accountable for the harm they do to others. I'm quite sure when her sentence is handed down, and the bailiff lays his hands on her to put her in cuffs, she will probably start screaming at the top of her lungs. I can't see her submitting.
@@camillecormier1825 at least she would know what she was doing
@@camillecormier1825 she dropped out after trying to get a chemical engineering degree, it would have made literally all the difference if she followed through. All of her problems stemmed from not knowing wtf she was doing and not having the education to back her science (if that’s what u can even call it) which could’ve been solved if she had just stayed in school
in fact it would’ve probably taught her exactly why the idea didn’t work
It’s ironic that her dad was scammed in the Enron scandal and Holmes became a scammer herself.
Was he scammed or was he a scammer? He was a VP, per Wikipedia. (I haven't watched The Dropout)
@@thejoyofsoxmovie7211 He was scammed. The company he worked for was apart of a scam and all employees lost their job
@@Yikkoofficial Thanks. I thought that maybe since he was at the level of a VP, he was part of the scam, as one of "the smartest people in the room".
@@Yikkoofficial he was vice president so I believe he was the scammer
@@ariamontgomery8475 exactly, these people are raised with CON ARTS as culture
Medical Lab professional here- they did a great job telling the story. You can't disrupt the lab industry if you don't know anything about it
Can’t believe there was no mention of one of the top heroes of this entire mess, Erika Cheung
@AJ 100% agreed
From what I've seen from articles online, they almost always only mention Tyler Schultz and rarely do they mention Erika Cheung.
She was such an innate player in taking down a problematic, destructive medical force.
@@CamberRockerCamber also when it came to the actual court case Erika testified and the government didn’t use Tyler. I guess the articles mainly like to refer to Tyler due to his family connections.
Also her father is john Holmes a former executive of enron. I don't know why more is not made of this. Perhaps his political ties
Not just Amanda Seyfried, the whole cast of "the Dropout" is great, even the minor characters.
By far this is my favorite based on true story series because i’m a nurse and this is close to my heart. I hate how she put the patients life at risk and not even apologetic
The most grotesque moment of the series: The lawyer, who was covering for Theranos the whole time, lectures Elizabeth in the last episode from a moral high horse.
But that's the job of a lawyer, defend.
(I haven't watched the show yet)
@@tagaway6173 It's crazy enough that lawyers don't care if their client is guilty or not. More often than not they are just trying to help someone get away with a crime which is irresponsible and wrong in every conceivable way. But that's the way the world works. At least, don't be a hypocrite after.
Agreed, she was awful. I think that’s why she was the only one that seemed to actually truly rattle Elizabeth though. Like if even your lowest moral friend thinks you’re low, it really says something
@@Vimora-1626 but most defense lawyers job is to reduce the sentence to what they believe is the best defense possible. That's not bad per say but the implication like in this case can be devastating.
@@Vimora-1626 are you talking about me being a hypocrite? Or the world in general?
Anyways I just finished the show. Very good.
The story of Elizabeth Holmes and Theranos has always fascinated me. I honestly believe at first she had truly noble intentions. But her ambitions turned her into a monster. She knew damn well the technology was years away from matching her vision, but she didn’t care. At the end of the day she was playing with people’s lives and she deserves her punishment.
She knew it would never work. Her intentions were to be rich. She said "I just want to be a billionaire." A person who had good intentions in the medical field would say "I just want go make a change".
No, she never ever had truly noble intentions. Ever.
We all wish we had a time machine... Let's wait long enough....
Poor Ian Gibbons, how he was treated and how his widow was treated was disgraceful. Plus Tylenol overdoses cause a lingering ,horrible death of liver failure.
The heroes episode, featuring Tyler and Erika was accurate, and arguably, the most important turning point of the series.
I liked the scene where Sunny calls Elizabeth not a real person
Are you sure? IIRC the HBO doc showed that Tyler and Erika reported separately, they never met up and planned to do it together. Erika was scared and filed for whistleblower status before reporting the company.
@@FLdancer00 but their contributions helped take down the company regardless. Things are exaggerated in dramatic reenactments but I felt that it was necessary for the story.
@@syntheticteapot I'm not saying what they did isn't important, it very much is.
But this person is saying the portrayal of Tyler & Erika is "accurate", when it's not. I just rewatched the documentary last night and they didn't work in concert at all. There were no meetings between them or teaming up to take down the company together.
They both took their own separate paths.
Amanda is a great actress, severely underrated. She used to date my ex-cousin in law for a short time back in the late 2000's. He's a LA realtor. I've heard she's a sweetheart
Thanks for sharing!
I wouldn’t call one of the top 4 cast members of Mean Girls “underrated”. But ok
@@dino91001 you know what I mean when I say that. She needs more attention
@@dino91001 yea you know damn well when ppl think of mean girls she’s not the instant thought. I loved mamma Mia, Jennifer’s body and most of the movies she in but yea she did kind of fall off in the last years I think a lot of people were surprised to see this performance
Yes - she is one of my favorites
I thought Seyfried was phenomenal in this series and this role. In reality, I do hope Holmes is served hot justice for the pain she caused patients and making it harder for women entrepreneurs to find funding. However, not totally sorry she duped DeVos and the other millionaire dipshits out of their money.
I thought Amanda was amazing and hulu is KILLING IT lately with these true crime shows. I live for these shows
@AJ I CHEERED when she left lol.
@AJ amen amen amen! But I guess it stands to reason that a college dropout with zero formal training manage to dupe the "Secretary of Education" ... Who *also* had zero formal training. They deserved each other.
And she did 🥳 I wish it was more but 11+ prison!!!!!!
1. Ian Gibbons' tragic death: Right 14:12
2. Holmes' voice: Right 10:37
3. Theranos' famous endorsements & investors: Right 9:07
4. Theranos partnering with Wahlgreens: Right 7:32
5. Holmes' relationship with Sunny Balwani: Right 6:22
6. Trying to fix device in Switzerland: Right 5:04
7. Brendan Morris: Right & Wrong (character based on Tony Nugent) 4:02
8. Theranos' clinical trial on terminal patients: Right 2:42
9. Holmes met Rakesh Madhava at college: Right & wrong (character based on Shaunak Roy) 1:39
10. Elizabeth Holmes dropped out of Stanford: Right 0:32
Honorable mentions:
- Holme's father worked Enron: Right (he was a VP) 12:02
- Lucas asked Avie Tevanian to resign: Right 12:19
- Lucas tried removing Holmes as CEO: Right 12:37
- Ku didn't have his car the day he was fired: Right 12:54
- Richard Fuisz lawsuit: Right 13:07
- Phyllis Gardner suspected Elizabeth: Right 13:31
Doing God’s work
@boots weather so basically everything was right
@@awesomesauce2000, frighteningly, yes.
The race swapping of multiple characters: wrong.
It's so cringe to see her in these interviews now and how stupid these politicians fall for her lies.
I bet Bill Clinton wanted to do more than fall for her lies. He probably put the moves on her, knowing that old horndog.
No the cringe is seeing 80 million voters fall for fraud Biden.
That’s a simple concept. When you see yourself in the person that lies, you’re more likely to show empathy.
I suspect they were in on her grift (they all can’t be that dumb, & at least twice they tried to silence an insider’s warning) & were jockeying to take it over when they had their opportunity (like what happened to Steve Jobs).
This show was incredibly done. Amanda was phenomenal.
She did, but no way as pretty as Holmes,
@@455rockett😂
I wish they’d waited to make this until she was sentenced, so that it could’ve included the trial etc. It was kind of jarring and unsatisfying that the show ended where it did.
Season 2 maybe ?
Yes there’s talk of a second season
The Dropout blew me away. 10/10.
I liked The Dropout. Why they kept saying Elizabeth Holmes was an “attractive blonde” is a BIG STRETCH. The real Holmes wasn’t at all attractive but Amanda Seyfried certainly is!
Agree 100%
😂😂
It's on a curve. Compare her to other women in stem fields.
Lol I was saying the same thing. Like, she’s not ugly but her eyes are so creepy. Paired with her creepy deep voice, I don’t get why people were throwing money at her for something they didn’t see work.
I think it’s the dry looking hair. It just always looked frizzy and messy. She has all this money but doesn’t know how to deep condition?
The whole story is completely gross but when we find out Ian killed himself over this? My heart broke & made me sick at the same time. I don't know that many details, but I certainly hope his widow sees some kind of compensation!!
How ironic that her father worked at Enron.. almost like it was meant to be.
So basically everything was right
I know right?
They changed a couple names 🤷🏼♀️
@@lieke3043 probably to protect some of the actual people's respective reputation and stuff yk
Did not expect British actor (and legend), Stephen Fry, to star in this series.
He was great in that role.
Expertly cast
Before I saw this Hulu series I had read the Carreyrou article series, a few dozen other articles, and watched a few other dramatizations. What this series did is show how very bright Holmes was -- not that there are a lot of dumb Stanford students -- but how her pathology, being a manipulative sociopath, was mixed with her ambition being way ahead of her actual talent, and especially education, as was pointed out so well by the female professor who tried to tell her how much she didn't know.
I thought the best scene in the series was Sunny Balwani telling her off in the last episode as she tries to get in her car and drive off.
One of the enduring mysteries to me is how after the scam of Theranos was revealed to the world by the WSJ articles, Holmes could meet and marry the very good looking young heir to a hotel tycoon's fortune, have his baby and live in their $135M house. I thought such families of immense wealth would hire investigators to fully explore her history and character.
Me neither. That dude needs a documentary of his own. If she does end up in prison, I wonder if he'll stick around.
I agree with you about the best scene. "You have no idea what's coming for us."
I know. Love is blind. IMO another one of her scams.
I know I'm like damn this chick actually did all this and still made out on top white chick's man
When her modern-day scam failed, she fell back on the oldest scam of all.
I can't imagine the movie with Jennifer Lawrence being better than this
What movie?
@@Dima-px6prthe title is ”Bad Blood”
Yeah I don’t imagine it being good tbh I feel like Amanda dud a great job and I feel like the tv platform is best. A movie will rush all this
@@Dima-px6pr There is a movie coming out starring Jennifer Lawrence as Elizabeth Holmes
I think the same, but I think I will still watching because I can’t help but be so obsessed with this whole story and scandal
Her eyes genuinely frighten me.
She looks psychotic. Very scary.
Her whole face and voice disgusts me .
I’m going to watch the whole series again. So many spectacular scenes I haven’t felt like this about a show in a long time. Just finished last ep and Amanda’s screaming mental breakdown on the gutter and then instant recovery for the Uber driver 👌What a complex woman!!
Actually my only wish would have been a stronger ending for Erika Cheung and Tyler. And what happened to the others that left the company
I agree this could have Hallmark-Nightmare production but the casting, acting and writing were top-notch. I am currently listening to the Bad Blood audiobook by John Carreyrou and whilst the book is brilliant and provides a lot more detail it confirms that The Dropout (In the limitations of a drama) got a lot right.
It's such a great show. They really get the overall feeling right. I worked at tech startups and boy, so many parallels. It's crazy how we just accept that. We would call all of it fraud in other industries.
As a 26 year old entrepreneur, i was looking for inspiring business movies or series to watch. It is now 3 AM, i could not stop binging The Dropout series. I stumbled onto this without diving too deep in the trailers. During episode 1,2 and 3 i was rooting for Elizabeth because the entrepreneurial spirit it takes to overcome obstacles. About 4 episodes in i started hating this woman with every fiber in me. By the time she changed her voice to be more "deep" i was about to pull my hair out. Can you imagine the bone chilling shock i got at the end of episode 8 when they started listing the real-life case updates, it was literally just then that i realized this was a real life event. I am young and not from the US, so i never heard of Theranos or the real Elizabeth. This is insane on a level unimaginable. Elizabeth, you are a disgrace to all Women, Humanity and the entire Entrepreneur Society. The fact that even after all this, you can remain cool about your crimes proves you are a psychopathic monster with alien eyes, a demons hart and an insufferable pretentious voice. I hope justice prevails in honor of all lives lost, families ruined financially or in health. F YOU!
lol did you post this exact comment on Fmovies??
@@tari8134 I’ve seen same comment on a different channel so yes I guess so
William H. Macy was perfection in this. I could've watched more of him.
I remember when Walgreens was suppose to put a Wellness Center and it’s fall out. Thanks to her, hour cuts happen. Just like after a Rite Aid buyout. I would blame her but it’s a common practice to undercut hourly employees.
Was this why so many Walgreen locations closed in I want to say 2018-2019?
This video ends on a scene of suicide, then Ms Mojo’s happy voice chirps “if you like this video subscribe for more!!!” and it’s really off putting. Have some respect for Ian Gibbons.
For real 😒🥀
Well said.
girl what it’s literally an outro. yeah it’s sad but sometimes that’s how it be
I emailed Phillis Gardner to say thanks and she emailed me back- she was very gracious -
The real Dr Phyllis Gardner, or Andy’s mom? 😂
@@dino91001 Andy who?
@@kateskeys the actress that plays Dr Phyllis Gardner is the voice actress for Andy’s mom in toy story lol
@@dino91001 I’ve got cool ranch & barbecue!!
Sheldons Mum TBBT
2 very important people to the story are Tim Draper and Channing Robertson. Without Drapers first investment Theranos would have most likely never gotten off the ground. And Robertson was the one person that could have really stopped this fiasco or talked some sense into Elizabeth from the beginning, but he chose to keep quiet and just collect his paycheck.
And Robertson was friend of Ian Gibbson.
Amanda's getting a lot of praise, initially I liked her a lot too but, I dunno the way she crooks her mouth to the left is pretty comical when you notice it
I cannot believe that everyone fell for her nonsense especially when you cannot conduct all of those lab tests off a few drops of blood. I am ashamed of walgreens and other investors for putting their profit over integrity... I am so thankful for those who came forward with the truth to shut this down. The worst part of it all is she does not see how horribly she destroyed innocent patients lives by her desire to be rich. Its so sick! & to all the women in tech that now have to struggle on their integrity from her pathetic lies!!!
Technology advances my dear
It scares me how she says, "👁👄👁"
The fact the the only two points labeled “Right and Wrong” were characters who based on two other actual people involved while everything else is absolutely correct is frightening. Except for some things that were done for dramatic effect (like Brendan leaving the day he sent the tribute email about Ian as opposed to being fired by Sunny in real life), this could almost have been considered a documentary series.
Yes, I watched every episode and the more I watched, the more I hate Elizabeth. I remember he making the rounds of the morning news programs and thinking “This is incredible medical technology.” I hope she rots in prison for 20 years. Not only is she a horrible person for what she has done already, she’s even more horrible for the damage she’s done to legitimate female entrepreneurs going forward. Many have literally been told to do whatever it takes to *NOT* resemble Elizabeth, including dyeing their natural blonde hair, so they’re not tainted with her stink just for being blonde or attractive. She managed to change the world alright, unfortunately for the worse for many people as well as setting back women in the business world by years.
Loved seeing Amanda again 🤣
J LAw will have a tough time matching or exceeding amandas performance
Why she needs to?
Small note - they should have added prosthetics or make-up or whatever to make the bottom half of Seyfried's face rounder than the top half. It's a unique aesthetic to Elizabeth's look.
Amanda is stunning,y beautiful , Holmes is not imo
@trinidiana THANK YOU!!! I keep seeing comments about how she swindled everyone because she was charming and a beautiful blue eyed blonde woman. But like.... beautiful!?!?!?! In what world?
@@TheDarkSideAchives I know beauty is not everything, but it truly is surprising to hear someone say she's objectively beautiful. But fuck, have you seen her husband? I guess he either saw something in her that we don't see or he just wanted a heir. Eitherway, it's annoying how Elizabeth snagged a heir to a hotel empire as a baby-daddy and gets to live comfortably while the pregnancy delays her trial.
@@biglawturbo6703 I’ve been thinking the same thing….how can she get out of this one….get knocked up by the rich heir of a hotel….”Cha-Ching!” 😏
You know that in films, especially limited series such as this, it’s more important to get the feeling of the real person than to have someone look like a dead on match. It’s called suspending your disbelief and if you were distracted that Amanda looked better than her real life counterpart, instead of focusing on her phenomenal acting, then that’s on you.
Excellent! Thanks so much!
That's why government officials should not be allowed to invest into private sectors unless it's their own company can you imagine how far they will go to protect their investment including giving approvals to graduate that don't actually work....
The soundtrack is great. By that I mean not only the song choice, but the music. Thrilling.
I loved this show and thought Amanda was brilliant in this role!
The deepened voice of Elizabeth Holmes always sounds like she was about to throw up. Ugh 🤢
I think you guys used the wrong clip of Shaunak Roy. The Roy in this video is a completely different guy, a musician. The real Roy is older.
The show is part of 3 other shows with the same Con theme.. "we crashed", Tinder Con, Reinventing Anne.. all were professional con artists with a smile, a good story, and getting millions from naive investors.. I hope this will send a message to ANYONE approached for investments.. if its $10, or $10,000,000.. Do research before letting your money go. My anger with Elizabeth is not the con she managed, but the lives of people who were at risk because of false pretense.
I think Mira Sorvino with blue contacts woulda been PERFECT for this role.
Mira is in her mid 50’s and looks nothing like her- she has a small face with delicate features and normal sized brown eyes. At least Amanda Seyfried has the large blue eyes going for her.
In The Dropout, there was a scene where the song "Firework" was being played in March 2010, but the fast is the entire Teenage Dream album where Firework was a track was released in August of that year.
That phony voice is hilarious.
I have an English class that I’m taking which is fully based on Holmes and the Theranos situation. Before the class, I had heard about Theranos and was very interested in the mindset of Holmes and how she could put so many patients in danger. I love that the class made me take a deeper dive into the situation and watching this show made it much more entertaining than watching some documentary about it. I hope she truly learned her lesson, even though it seems like she has no remorse at all. She has to know that what she did was wrong at some point.
#1 - Ian, was the saddest of them all, the Voice was probably the creepest.
Three things about this list, or rather, its narration. Words matter. It sounds a lot like y'all were giving her a pass on some parts. 1) She seems like she grew up wanting to change the world. No, she doesn't. She said she wanted to be a billionaire. That's it. She didn't claim to want to help people until after she was already known. 2) She began to compromise her morals with the cancer patient drug trials. No, she didn't. She didn't have morals and had been lying for a while. This is deceit out of desperation for notoriety. 3) She fudged the results in Switzerland. No, she committed full fraud and deception. She deliberately and pointedly sent totally fake results to get money. She was never a decent person. Ever. Not at any point.
Lizzie had plastic surgery prior to trial. Likely cheek implants and possible chin implant- Check out the shape of her face now and 2016
Baby William: “where’s Mama.”
Billy Evans: “Mama is completing her college degree.”
Baby William: “When will Mama finish.”
Billy Evans: “In 20 years, a bit sooner if she studies harder.”
Baby William: “LIAR! She’s a stone cold felon!”
So basically the show was acurate
Elon Musk *finished* college! He dropped out of a graduate program.
Poor Ian Gibbons. So horrible.
The Dropout was very good, as was the ABC miniseries of the same name. Bad Blood by John Carreyrou is better. What she got away with, the lies she told, how she could lie and have no conscience, the people who enabled her - it disgusts me. Is she a sociopath? With her talking herself up as a woman in engineering, business, and healthcare, she had a couple of semesters; the other tech dropouts were entrepreneurs and coders, things that don't necessarily need college training. That anyone thought Holmes should run a company - without proper financial auditing BTW. What she got away with and how she has ruined things for a future generation of women... Oh, and don't get me started about what she did to the legacy of a truly great statesman, George Schultz.
If she'd finished college, she'd know her idea was impossible. Maybe that (also) was why she dropped out...
0:18 - She sure nailed that creepy look.
this show was incredible and amanda deserves all the accolades for her performance. everything in her portrayal from the clothes and the makeup down to the spot on voice were amazing.
I think she played her so well.
Award winning series🏆
fun fact: the origin of Theranos was "TheirAnus" which is what the duo (Holmes and Balwani) were aiming for... investor buttholes.
(yeah, that was false)
LMAO, literally.
I’ve watched the episodes available. I cannot stand Elizabeth Holmes. She’s a psychopath.
Elizabeth's voice creeps me out !!
The series is so well made!
I haven’t watched dropout yet but I did see the documentary and I absolutely cannot stand the sound of her voice.
I think she wore turtlenecks to hide her neck muscles from showing when she forced her voice...
What I was curious about is about Holmes' rape. Was she really raped in college?? If not I wonder what was the point of adding that in the show but I haven't heard anyone talk about it irl
I love the series, I feel like they got alot of things correct.
I loved Seyfrieds performance; spot on imo. However, I despised what this phoney and her partner did to innocent people! The people who produced this series did a very good job sticking close to the truth and not extending this story over many seasons, thank you very much.
All I saw was Garret Walker and Heather Dunbar at the dinner table...
Betsy DeVos? Really. Does she know how to do anything?
Absolutely NOTHINGGG 🙄🤬
That woman is a whole entire clown.
She's been scammed hella 😂😂
@@jharp08 Yeah, not shedding any tears over that one...hehehe
The cancer patients part disgusts me. I’m a cancer survivor I know what they are going through. I been cancer free since November of 2020 and I had last chemo treatment in March of 2021. Yea it was right in the middle of the pandemic
I was hoping Sunny’s attitude was false 🙄
I haven't watched the show but am listening to John Carreyrou's book about it all, "Bad Blood." He just sounds like the absolute worst person in the world to work for.
This pathological liar and sociopath is now married and has a child - in my mind a premeditated attempt to circumvent the worst of the possible 20 year jail sentence for financial fraud to be decided by the court in late 2022 - another manipulation. Great show, very compelling acting by the entire cast.
I think Elon graduated with a BS in Physics. He did drop out of graduate studies at Stanford.
It was fantastic.. Amanda was wonderful as Liz 👊 👍😉
Nice one
E Musk actually finished 2 bachelor degrees (physics and business) according to Britanica, so he is not a college dropout. PhD dropout yes
I thought it was fascinating to watch. Seeing her desire to please and her parents quirkiness made a lot of sense as to her oddness.
Amanda Seyfried is perfect casting. I didn’t think she’d be up to it. I was wrong - so wrong.
I haven’t really watched this show but I’m going to. The more times I hear Elizabeth’s deep voice, the more I get annoyed. It’s so annoying. From what I’ve heard from Amanda, she nailed the voice.
I never realised how far apart Amanda's eyes are...
I am always amused when she gives these people as example, since one of them is the child of an owner of emerald mines, one got a contract through their parent ensuring permanent employment and use of his skill since he was more or less the first to do this, one used the work of others and frankly none of them were utterly uneducated in the areas they were going to work in with one exception but at least he EMPLOYED experts in the field. On her side, she did not have any knowledge on the matter of chemistry or biology enough to be genuinely able to understand the matter.
Did someone else noticed on Carlos Slim's name, in Lizzy's investors paper list, after WSJ article is published? I would expect that the fact he invested in Theranos would become an scandal in 🇲🇽 once all the fraud was exposed. Unfortunately, nobody talks about it here 😕
The 60 minutes episode did her and Sunny "IN". Using humans in trials in which you know the machines are not functional is morally wrong on so many levels ! People's health and lives are in danger. If it were widgets, that may be a different story, but "health" is on a different level.
The voice she created was so scary
It’s a great series !
Why did I still believe that this will be possible one day, doing a complete check-up without blood sample.
What a crazy story. I started watching it on her sentence day
The WSJ journalist and bam bam bam lady is missing from this countdown 😣
For driving Ian Gibbons' to his death and endangering millions of patients, she deserves way more than just 11 years of prison time.
Agreed
I like it 👍👍👍