Madden NFL 25 Retrospective
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- čas přidán 7. 10. 2020
- I called the PS2, Xbox, and GameCube version of Madden 08 the “last great madden”, meaning it was the last Madden title released that I would label “great”. I called Madden 12 the “last good madden”, meaning it was the last Madden title released that I would label “good”. Now I’ve finally gotten to Madden 25, the... I don't know. I don’t think 25 was great, or even good. But many people remember the game fondly due to how far madden has fallen off in recent years.
#retrospective #SOFTDRINKTV #game #review #sdtv - Hry
Frostbite ruined Madden, they should have stuck with Ignite. Ignite had much better AI and gameplay.
WAAAAAYYY better. Ignite was actually based on physics. Frostbite is completely animation based. Ruined it for sure
That was the infinity engine. Ignite wad a technology that was supposed to make it easier to share features between their games.
Ignite is still used for NHL so it is still there for them to go back on really
Frostbite is better I like Graphics the most and the graphics are way better now
@@max32324 Graphics don't really matter to me, just if the gameplay is fine, I'm fine. Is just that Frostbite is way too unrealistic. Graphics aren't everything.
EA should’ve never started using the Frostbite engine for Madden.
Frostbite should DEFINITELY not have been used for ANY sports game.
Frostbite was made for shooters and it wasn’t really even good at that
Captain America_NY Battlefield 1 is the exception.
@@captainamerica_ny9642 So the Bad Company weren't good with Frostbite? Or even Battlefront (and before you bring up the lootboxes, those had nothing to do with the Frostbite engine, and have been patched out for years now)?
I very much enjoyed Battlefront it’s one of my favorite games it’s one of the games that did well with frostbite
Madden 25 was the best franchise experience I’ve had. It all went downhill from here. I just bought it and NCAA 14 again to relive that feeling.
NCAA 14 Dynasty is soo fun.
Boutta cope ncaa 14 as well
I'm getting a copy of M25 and ncaa14 so I can import draft classes
Just got 14 getting madden 25 next gotta relive the good days of gaming sad to see where it’s at compared to what we all thought it’d be man we don’t even got the same games or features smh
Where do you guys buy copies of the games that aren’t overly priced? I seen a physical ncaa 14 going for $100+
The custom draft class stories is still one of the best additions to franchise
Those were legendary
Yes I loved those
Hated those drafted classed they ruined the game . Especially if you started multiple franchise you would get the same draft classes
justin mckissic well then you just import your draft class from ncaa14 problem solved
J George i do but the player overall are low for example a player can be a 99 in ncaa 14 but he’s be a 60 in madden 25
Knowing EA they’ll call Madden 25 “Madden 25 2”
Madden 14
They would just remaster Madden 25 and only update the ultimate team mode.
Madden 25 2.0
Madden 36
They’ll call it Madden 35, for the 35th anniversary of Madden
I got involved just like Paul. After Madden 25, I had become so wrapped up in football that I created a Twitter page to help out high school football players in my state. It was a hobby, something I could do at night, and in some weird way it felt sort of like I was simulating NCAA 14, but in real life. Real college football coaches started to follow my page, head coaches for major P5 programs even. I was still not yet ready to do much scouting, but after a few years, and a lot of learning about the game, I started scouting more in-depth. Then I started to network with the college coaches, going to major conventions and meeting them in person. They started taking a deeper interest in what I was doing, even paying me as a certified NCAA scout. Over the last 5 years I've helped thousands of high school players get into college, and it all really started with what Madden 25 and NCAA 14 brought. I had played many games before that, but after those games it just felt like I needed to take my passion for football further. I really have not had the urge to play any football game over the last few years, because what I do in the real football world. It's amazing, and anyone can do it. It just takes a real passion for the sport and time.
😕
@@ssbashalot7324 I don't get it
That's mad 👏👏. Good for you bro 😊.
I am so happy for you sir. Taking your passion for the sport and applying it to real life has no better feeling. It isn't a video game where you can turn it off when you fail. You learn, improve and grind.
@@ssbashalot7324 hi SSB ashalot.
One of the most underrated features of all time was draft champions. Everyone would get to play with a team they drafted. It was completely free and super fun. But now it is pay to win and you have to grind on ultamite team just to play it. A small feature from madden 16 they ruined
I used to love draft champions it was super fun. EA ruined when they started to charge coins for the mode. I'm not going to waste my time playing ultimate team so I can play a different mode.
Absolutely loved draft champions
It's like ultimate team with no mtx and actually good
yes i loved doing this. then i got the new madden and saw it was removed. or so i thought. i had to get to like level 5 in mut to unlock it. i said no way because i tried and it just wasn't fun to play with a 60 overall team over and over again doing challenges to unlock a game mode that was essentially hidden. you had to go into mut and scroll all the way over to the side to find it.
"Probably the closest a Madden game has ever gotten to being realistic" ... That's kind of the most important part and probably why I liked it.
... and it was just glossed over in this video. He didn't even touch the draft and off season.
@@paulgaither didn't need 2
@@Himmyjewett - It is the most important part.
There is NOTHING to scout on Gen6/PS2 Madden. It is literally just a bunch of combine numbers and "Interview:Poor/Bad/average/good/great/amazing" + meaningless fluff text.
Gen7 Madden has player traits, position specific ratings, scheme, player roles and types, etc.
You can build based on different styles and schemes on both sides of the ball, not just "I guess I will take the fastest guy on the board by 40 time by position".
Gen6 Madden will literally trade away the first round to you and itself. The AI will offer the user a top 8 draft pick for their 1&2, a top 10-20 pick for your 3&4, and a 20-30 pick in the first round for your 5&6 in every draft, and will do the same to other teams.
Gen6 Madden is massively over hyped and people like SoftDrinkTV gloss over and ignore the HUGE problems which make Gen6 franchise a garbage fire while praising it for the ability to play "Barbie dress up dolls" with players, their hair and tattoos and equipment and "Doll House simulator" with custom stadiums which have nothing to do with team building or actual football on the field.
SDTV couldn't even finish one season of his meme team "cupcake rebuild" because of how boring and stupid Gen6 Madden actually is.
@@paulgaither you must be fun at parties
@@FireballFlareblitz734 - Seen. Ignored. Muted and blocked.
“Go play real football” lol I’ll just keep playin 2k5
That too lol
Have fun with that garbage
@@JourneyWoodworks ?
@@SOFTDRINKTV When are you going to do videos on the NFL and NCAA games created by Sony and Microsoft?
@DKingT 1 😂
One of the few good features that don’t exist anymore is the fact you can import draft classes from NCAA 14 to Madden 25.
Hale yeah
This is underrated. Used to do this all the time or the old NCAAs and Maddens....
It can't exist without a ncaa game alongside it. I'll agree that it's a good feature but without a ncaa game, thus cannot be expected.
Except it was borked in the NCAA to Madden 25 offering. Some guys that you know turned out ot be all out studs are mid 60's with terrible stats. I was excited to do this as I own both NCAA 14 and Madden 25 and was really disappointed with how the imported class turned out. There was really nobody worth taking in the first round.
@@eduardopena5893it was based on their ratings before they enter the draft. Think about it. Madden hardly rates rookies above maybe an 80. That player could’ve been a 99 in college, he’ll come out at least 74-79 in madden 25. Now imagine a senior who is only rated at an 80. They’re not gonna be rated higher than a 70. There’s a lot of classes still there today that have college players with real names rated appropriately for imports and that’s why I’m 10 years in to my franchise with all imported draft classes. Has to finesse a lil after every 4 years and some generated players pop in from ncaa scouting but it’s fun. There’s a page on OS that has draft class update for download in the systems for every year to current. Just use the same roster for 4 years, sim, import, then create a new dynasty with the rosters from 4 years later and repeat. Just check for duplicates (players who don’t leave or do leave) but that’s easy. And it’s very sustainable and better than madden on the 9 gen easily
EA Sport's needs to go back to using a physics based engine for Madden and with the current crop of consoles there should be no excuse.
Physics based engines look terrible and doesn’t even resemble football
@@JourneyWoodworks Are you telling me what they've been doing doesn't look terrible? You don't get tired of seeing the same animations that have been around since Madden 16? Maybe if they actually committed to a physics based engine it would get better. This game needs to go in a new direction.
Dez Brown I don’t think it looks at all the same this year. Tackles actually look much better and much more realistic. Pass rushing is improved. There are many other things that need fixed. If they went to another engine we would be back to square one with a whole new set of problems. It’s not the engine that is the problem, it’s that ea is lazy and greedy and they do the least amount amount of work as possible and will only touch the modes with micro transactions. They haven’t touch franchise in 7 years! That’s the laziest shit I ever seen from a game developer!
@@JourneyWoodworks Bruhhhh the tackle animations are some of the shittiest I've ever seen. Most of them are unrealistic as hell. Game is broken asf 🤣. Animations will determine if you win or lose. I throw a quick pass to the WR and the DB is right there making the tackle as the WR catches the ball literally warped around the WR legs 😂😂 but it's realistic.
It would take the best physics engine ever developed to make a football game have good physics. There's just so many variables in physics when comes to American full contact football. There still aren't any great physics engines since gaming has gone all spicy visuals and still use rag doll physics. Even with today's next gen systems. It would still maybe be beyond their limits to produce a great physics and graphic engine that still matting 60fps at 4k. While EA still deserves most of the blame for using the Frostbite engine for a football game. You can also blame corporations and consumers for expecting over 60fps 4k visuals consistently on a $400 or $500 system. If they fully utilize supersqmpling like Fidelity FX to take loads of the GPU. Then it might be possible.
This just shows how EA has went so downhill, it's embarassing
yeah but this was an extreme upgrade from god awful madden 13
@@jos6884 agreed
revisionist history is funny. people complained about madden 25 just as much as if not more than theyre complaining about madden 21. the game wasnt good.
@Harry Engel overwatch 2 is coming soon
@@jos6884 yes. Even also major upgrade from MADDEN NFL 2022.
This was the first Madden I ever played and I still love it. To this day, I still import draft classes from NCAA 14 into the game. I’ve had a Saints franchise going for like 5 years now, and once did an entire career mode with my quarterback character.
Seeing the presentations before a game of madden 25 almost makes me cry now. It is just so sad that the presentation now are lifeless. Unbelievable
I was waiting for this because Madden 25 is so underated.
Yeah I agree it's the last good Madden gameplay wise imo.
Madden 25 is garbage. Its only slightly better than Madden 20.
If you want a good and fun Madden game, try 04-08.
It’s not underrated it’s just not as shit as the new ones.
No. The only reason someone may like Madden 25 is because the following games that came out afterwards were so poorly made. On its own, it did absolutely nothing to raise the bar of quality, didn’t take any risks anywhere, and was a significant “fuck you!” to the single player mode players, especially for the 7th generation console port.
i liked madden 25 because the team intros were unique and the hall of fame players and coaches were unique other then that it was the same
This was the best and most realistic tackling/player interactions madden ever had, cause damn near ever tackle was different you wouldn’t see the same tackling 20 time like the animation driven game play they are using now
Facts bro. Had this on the 360 and had more fun than all these shitty next gen ones.
This is easily the best gameplay, I recently tried to play 05, 12, 2k5( all of which I love) and I'm sorry 25 was the the best gameplay. It also had legends playable in Franchise roster share had full seasons like NBA 2k. 25 doesn't have the best Franchise or presentation but the gameplay and legends factor is unmatched. It even had game face where I created Bo Jackson with his actual portrait. Also the player models rival Gen 4 with facial detail. It's easily top 3 for me.
1D4ever me and you are alike lol!
@@forreps5038 I which I could say the same. I had bad experience with it... I felt as the DB were pretty much impossible to beat even if you were on pro or all pro difficulty. Also I felt that ratings didn’t matter as much. Please tell me why you think 15 was better??? I would like to know your opinion on it. Rather than cleaner and better?
@@forreps5038 I agree on graphics. It looks better and more realistic and not as cartoon like. I may need to pick it up again to get a feel. I just remember doing the ratings for the players setting a whole new overall because I have a system I do for it. I have been doing ratings and roster edits a long time ever sense Madden 08 for the PS2. I watch film on players and keep up with stats to more justify the ratings than EA does. I played a game against the Seahawks one time after the ratings were done and I couldn’t do shit on all pro. I like a challenge but it was insane bro. I also played the Colts once going against there back QB who was like 62 overall. Curtis Painter. He was torching my defense.... every throw was accurate and he made the perfect decisions. I thought at times that I was playing Peyton Manning still....
@@forreps5038 oh and I think M25 has a little better Franchise I may be wrong but I think M15 took some things out. M25 Franchise isn’t great but it is playable. I think Ratings matter the most out of any Madden I have played that or PS2 Madden 09.
@@forreps5038 you made me wonder I give you that. I might even get the game back and see what’s up because I did have fun with Franchise until I played the freaking Colts lol... I’m all about Realism in a game. I know it’s a game but I want the best possible realistic gameplay and franchise. Also did they take out the helmet moving with someone gets hit??? I think they did in 15
I clicked immediately when I saw the noti
You a real one
SOFTDRINKTV I love your videos man, keep producing bangers and you’ll be at 100k subs in no time
Pretty much lol
Same
Shout out to Paul.
One thing I forgot about this game was that legends would come out of retirement. I remember the first time seeing Randy Moss and Ray Lewis in the news tab and I freaked!
In the dynasty mode?
@@iBMcFly In franchise mode. Ray Lewis was usually one of the first ones back. Sometimes they would come back for more than a year as well.
I loved the intro screens when you played a game like the pregame intros that showed the history of the teams it was so cool and would get chills just from that
I feel like 2014 was the second 2005.
We got Fifa 14(Arguably the best ever), NCAA 14, Madden 25(The last descent Madden), NBA 2K14. It was a pretty awesome year.
NHL 14 was so good as well. The final year of good sports games.
I fully agree, FIFA 14, Madden 25 and 2k14 are my favs for all these series. But more accurately, these games are not from 2014 but 2013.
This was the last Madden game I genuinely had fun playing and could commit to playing a franchise on, which I did for 15 seasons with my brother. It wasn’t a great game, but it was one I still go back to now because of just how much better it is than Maddens of the present times.
Shoutout to Paul. It’s always heartwarming to see people so passionate about interests.
Great video!
4:19, oh my God it's a fade/corner route that has a proper catch animation.
Every time you make one of these I immediately boot up the game and actually have fun playing madden.
Lol I did the same. I had a blast playing franchise again. Granted... the franchise mode from this game isn’t much better then the new age trash but the gameplay is sooooo much better.
The ignite engine was weird at first but when it got polished on NCAA and transferred to Madden 25...it was gorgeous
Madden 25 was legit. I remember I was doing a franchise with the titans and I think I was in the 3rd season and kurt Warner and Ray Lewis both came out of retirement and I went and won a SB with the titans
I started playing this game again after I saw that you were going to do a retrospective on it. I’ve really enjoyed playing it, it’s glitchy but the gameplay isn’t completely animated based, it’s way more physic based which feels so much more fun. I even did updated rosters on it and it completely trumps newer madden games today. Great video, love the channel
Madden 2002 retrospective, the one that started the golden era needs a chance
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I need one of these videos a week. Your retrospectives are very insightful and well put together. Not to mention they give me a blast of nostalgia that caused me to go out and dust off my old consoles.
Thanks brother
been going back and playing 25, it’s pretty fun. The presentation is dope and the menus and news stories and scouting system in franchise is cool. Also the practice scenarios are dope, would love to have those back
Busting out the SNACKOS for this video.
Get some Blisteritos. Best snack ever. If you don't know about those I recommend you youtube em.
It's da Wombat! :0
You got roasted by Griffin Gaming
@@jordandennis6794 :'''''(
Snackos…… oof
Madden 25 was the last madden that felt like we were actually playing a game, rather than watching 25% canned animations and only 75% gameplay
@@B1inded3agle__ 25 is the best overall game imo, but 15 has kinda the best franchise mode of a Gen 4 madden (madden 25 practice is op)
@@B1inded3agle__ I was at a phase in which I was playing a lot of franchise in 15 now I'm playing 25 now
@@B1inded3agle__ but if you want to see a forum about how broken it is. forums.operationsports.com/forums/madden-nfl-last-gen/655485-practice-mode-will-ruin-your-franchise.html
@@B1inded3agle__ yes. But PS1 and 2 NFL games are the best.
@@B1inded3agle__ yes. 25 is good.
I loved the physics tackling it felt like real football! Though rag doll like if EA built on this, Madden would be the most realistic greatest football game ever
love your channel especially the retrospectives I can't wait to see more in the future!
I've been waiting for this one. This the first game that I started to really notice there were problems with the series and I still enjoyed it somewhat
I loved the hall of fame players in franchise mode
Madden 25 getting its due! Loved this game on XBOne, remember taking the Lions to the Superbowl with Stafford, Megatron and Reggie Bush, and adding Dez Bryant and a 83 OVR rookie TE in Year 2 and dominating.
Yes sir, just picked it up for xbox1 last night
I got a madden 21 ad lmao great vid easily the best madden of this generation
This is my favorite Madden of the last decade. I put in a ton of time in that franchise mode. The stories for certain draft candidates added so much depth.
I took the advice at the end of this video. (Kinda) and have started playing flag football for a local team in England. And I agree. It's alot more fun than playing madden. This video was the first spark in me looking for a team. Thank you.
That 1 dislike is probably a 9 year old kid saying, "Madden is great" NO IT IS NOT
Your prob right but... madden is not good but people dont care obviously or else they would make no money
Not even true I am young any my cousins all say they do not like the new maddens
I haven't played madden/video games in maybe a decade. But I love yr videos. Keep it up my guy.
I played madden 25 recently with my cousin and that was the most fun and funniest madden that I played in a LONG time. Madden 25 is one of my faves
Madden 04 was my favorite. Mike Vick was straight up unstoppable.
That’s when Vick had his one good season, mediocre quarterback at best
@@monkeychungus6675 You sir are an idiot. He was great in the ATL, went to jail, came back and was a pro bowler again in Philly!
@@dvon1097 some still won’t forgive him for the dog incident but Vick was most exciting player to watch
Agreed. Best ever, IMO!
One of my favorite things to do in Madden was to make cupcake teams and rebuild them. So since that isn't an option in 25, I would take one of the worst teams, gut them of all their current players, and sign 60's-70's rated players. In this way I found some real gems. Now, I simulate and watch games, I don't user control anyone so take that for what it is worth.
QB: Tim Tebow (FA): No, really. He starts of pretty terrible, but stick with him, invest in his throwing accuracies, and in the right system you will see him start to turn it around in the last 1/3 of the season.
HB: Andre Ellington (3rd string Cardinals): Easy to trade for, will rush for well over 1,000 yards and decent TDs so long as you can keep him healthy, and will do so in just about any system. Also a good receiver. I believe the secret to his success is his extremely high BCV rating as a rookie.
HB: Jeff Demps (FA): Absolute speed demon that is a great return specialist. In a limited role can be a huge home run hitter as a running back.
FB: Spencer Ware (SEA?) He was used as a RB in KC, so he has more speed and running skills than most FB, and not much blocking. Just work on that with progression.
WR: Ryan Swope (FA): The guy just makes amazing catches.
WR: Brian Banks (FA): Speed and is also a lethal return man like Demps. Work on his hands and you got a crazy fast deep threat.
TE: DC Jefferson: A great run blocker and deceptively good receiver. Is a little slow, but that doesn't seem to stop him.
LT: Demarcus Love (FA), LG: Nate Menkin (HOU?), C: Jason Slowey (FA)
LE: Thaddeous Gibson (FA): 4-3 speed rushing DE
RE: Ronnell Lewis (FA): 4-3 Speed/Power rushing DE
LOLB: Aaron Maybin: 3-4 pass rusher, or 4-3 rushing DE
MLB: Brian Rolle
CB: Demarcus Van Dyke
FS: Jerron McMillan
SS: Christian Thompson
K: Caleb Sturgis
P: Marquette King
Amazing video brotha 💕🙏🏿
Yes I’ve been waiting for this
I had this on my 360 and LOVED it. I wish I had it back
Go Pandas
X2
I loved Paul's story at the end of this video. Hope you're doing well down in South America with the football league, Paul.z
This is the season in which i got into watching football so softdrink has encouraged me to buy the game
I have a series currently runninh on this game on my channel. Rebuilding the Jaguars.
The gameplay just is not as animation based as Madden 21. It feels much better to play
I'm still playing Madden 25 to this day. Madden 08 and NCAA 08 too, and of course NFL 2K5.
Me too xbox one
Easily one of my favourite Maddens. Back before I played online. Loved how it played
The team intros remain undefeated holy shit brings me back
First like! I love this Madden! One of my top 3 Maddens! The gameplay was honestly the best in my opinion! Learning the stick skills and knowing when to use the l trigger when running. The physics was beautiful and made the game more realistic then any other Madden. The Franchise is okay I would say. The overall game was good not great in my opinion
Lets see how long it takes for somebody to say that your opinion is wrong because the pre-2010 games were better.
Even if you have never played one...
ElectricRainbow FYI I never said it was the Best Madden bud. I said the Gameplay was the best (in my opinion)
When you look at any football game you judge Gameplay #1 Franchise #2 and Features #3 and Presentation #4
@@dolphindrawings9331 bro he said the gameplay was superior to prior maddens. Which I think so too!
Looking back, this game is super good
I still play it.
@@Maal7432 u got ps4?
which madden is that at 7:36 ?
Lots of great memories playing this game with my brother.
I was a big fan of 2k on the Dreamcast, love your vids👊🏻
Dont forget how u can put ur draft classes from ncaa 14 into 25 🤠
I think that when EA gets to Madden 25 again, they will call it, Madden 25 "Remastered".
I’d just call it “madden”
Simple. It’s like what smash bro’s. did for smash 4
I miss chucking shit up to megatron and running with players didn't feel like shit on the 360 and PS3. Also hoping it comes packaged with NCAA 14 remastered.
Call it madden 35
Or 2025
Dude, I've watched 3 of your videos on Madden. And you're saying what I've been saying for YEARS, Madden died once the PS3/Xbox360 came out. Tha k you for your videos.
I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS MY WHOLE LIFE
Even though Madden 15-17 were bad, they were still playable because they didn’t have the Frostbite engine
@cashtheyen Terrible game. No defense.
I remember back then I thought the transition to Frostbite was so cool. It made the game look so much better, but in a sense, honestly ruined the game. Same thing with FIFA.
One small detail that I really enjoyed from PS4 Madden 25 was the fact that the players’ helmets moved on their head whenever they got hit. While it’s something you only notice in the instant replay, a small thing like that showed me the potential for authenticity and realism with Madden
Love the presentation in 25. Tackling feels organic.
I played madden 25 on my friends Xbox. We would play the legacy teams and had a blast playing it
In madden 20 (I don't have 21) when you select your running back as an undrafted free agent, ur the starter, in madden 25 you would either be the 3rd or 4th string rb, same goes for every other position
turn off auto-starter or whatever it is called, and you will be a 3rd or 4th string, just like 25
Geography Guy thank you so much, I’m gonna try it whenever I feel like it, since I don’t play Madden that much
no problem, im happy to help
15 also had legends. 15 is very underrated.
I enjoy Madden 25 on PS3 and still play it off and on. Madden 16 was the last Madden to use the Ignite engine I think. I enjoy it kind of. I bring it up because to me that game was last half decent Madden, BUT after a few years in Franchise mode you start to see the cracks in the AI for developing their teams. After a while your team will be sporting Overall scores in the 90s while the next good CPU controlled team will be in the mid 80s. It's tough to keep the game fun and challenging because of that.
Anyway loved the video and for me I really like Madden 25. I feel like it has the right balance of features and gameplay. Plus I can incorporate college rosters over from NCAA 14 which is always a plus
It seemed more realistic than madden 12 and it was lifelike it brought new things and things from the old ones.
It gave the ability to play as your favorite hall of famer. It had good regression for slipping players, and incredible progression for
future stars. It had my favorite commentary team ever. It was always fun to play.
It’s better than 12, for sure. Especially the gameplay!
I love that game: Madden NFL 25 is the best!! Thanks SOFTDRINK TV!!
Avery Gill agreed
No it ain't
@@mymom9741 That's your opinion by the way and I have to respect your comment
@@thecompulsivefootballer6706 That's cool with perfect presentations and gameplay!
@@thedefinitive1637 yeah alot of people say m25 sucks when the gameplay is basically the same as ncaa 14.
3:17 ROTFL 😆😆😆
Good ole JR voice: You killed him, you killed him
I am in my 30's and still playing tackle football in semi pro leagues in Arizona. You have to really love the game to go out there and play it for real. Lots of hard work and injuries are guaranteed. But I agree with what was said. Every year the desire to be on that field chasing a championship is what drives me. If you go some game left in your bones go find a team and win some Rings!!
I bought this game online for $20 about a week ago. Started a franchise this evening and I was blown away how much better this game is compared to the new Madden’s pertaining to gameplay, cut scenes, franchise mode. The gameplay is just so much smoother I was really shocked how much better the game played. Can’t imagine firing up Madden 2008 or even NFL 2k5.
Madden 15 wasn’t terrible 🤷🏾♂️
Paul has a good message but when I get off actual football practice im tryn chill and play a good football game
Things great about Madden 25 due to the Physics based engine. Players had realistic tendincies, for example, Power runners would try to bull rush through the line, and if that didn't work, they'd stretch their arm out to try to make up the yardage, or how Tom Brady, being pretty slow, would try to avoid rolling out if his O-line gave him a clean pocket. The interaction between offensive and Defensive linemen was very good, between the D-line trying to swim, rip, or bull through the O-line, to the O-line trying to hold, or even push their blocks. Refs where on the field and would actually interact with the play, from throwing the flag, to trying to avoid the players. Also, and most importantly, the freaking Challenge/review system actually worked due to the Referee having a tendency toward blowing calls as the play developed in real time, either due to impaired sightlines on the play, or being more worried about avoiding getting bowled over by a 6'2 256 pound freak of Nature.
I’ve literally spent hours on the rookie drills in 08
25 was the one where I went "ok, I'm out"
It wasn't awful but compared to what I was used to at that point, bleh
This was 999 percent accurate especially retro players and franchise mode. This new MUT stuff is irritating. I've been playing Allpro 2K8 but might go back to M14. Great channel
Great video! Could you do NBA Elite 11, NBA Street, or 2K17/18 next?
You should do an NFL Blitz retrospective.
God damn I love this channel
whichever madden you were able to turn the camera around on defense was the best for me , made defense so much more fun and engaging to play
Madden 15
I think one thing that doesn't get talked about enough is player models. They've regressed in my opinion over the years.
I agree the 25 and 12 models were better to me than current gen
I remember when I first got Madden 25, the First thing I went to do was to go and create my team as I always did. I never got Madden 13, so I didn't know create a team was removed until I got Madden 25. I was soooo pissed about that. One of my favorite things to do was create my own team, my own Stadium and start my franchise with a cupcake roster and rebuild through the virtual years. EA killed the fun, they added relocation teams?! How dumb! Then to top it off then they switched game engines after 25, and the gameplay went right down the drain along with franchise mode. Madden 18 was the last Madden I bought, and I only got it because it was on sale for $20. I Uninstalled it 2 hours later and haven't purchased Madden since. Instead, I bought Madden 12 for ps3 and I play that to fix my create a team itch, and on PC I play NFL 2k5 in 4k for my realistic football simulation itch.
Madden 25 was also the first "new gen" Madden I played and the only reason I got it was because you could import your NCAA 14 classes into it (and I really enjoyed NCAA 14). I remember they removed some really tiny features that just made this game so annoying. For example, in old games you could assign DBs to cover a specific receiver before the game, now you had to audible each play, wtf, who wants to do that. If you had Revis of course you'd just assign him to the team's best WR pre-game. Then you couldn't look up the player's stats from previous team...I mean that's even written on old school paper trading cards, how is this not a feature in modern games? If I wanted to look up how many yards Payton Manning threw for with the Colts his rookie year there is no way to do it.
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Love your vids...
They distrack me from the garbage madden's we play today
Special note here Softdrink that you might not know. Josh Looman, the man that was behind NFL Head Coach 09 (which I think is EA's best football game ever) was the project lead for Madden 25. When I heard that I thought, FINALLY, franchise mode is going to get some MAJOR love. Why? Because while many detract from HC09 for not having a user player control game play, almost everything you asked for to be put in newer Maddens was already in that game. A full coaching tree including position coaches, a GM, and a trainer. No cheesy trade logic. Player personalities mattered. RFA was there. Random events like perhaps your team has a player's only meeting and they study the playbook and everyone gets increased play knowledge (oh yeah, intelligence played a role in the game as dumb as a brick guys would not learn plays and would make mistakes like running wrong routes, missing blocks, or blowing coverages) or maybe one player slips and falls down the stairs of the team bus and gets an injury. Scouting was fantasic, presentation was great. Adam Schefter would tell you about up and coming players having break out seasons during the year. You would hear from another NFL talking head about a mock draft. If you drafted a storyline player (that Schefter highlighted before the drat) Mel Proctor would tell you about the pick after they were selected. If you've never experienced this game, you need to because it will blow your mind what EA was able to accomplish back then, and never bothered to integrate in any Madden going forward.
Madden 25 was supposed to rebuild franchise after 13 killed it. It was supposed to be rebuilt from the ground up to work with the new engine. It was supposed to be the beginning building block for Franchise mode for Madden to build on going forward, just like you said it felt like it was supposed to be.
It was not intended to be the end of the line for franchise mode, but the starting point. Madden's new team at the time decided to go another way and didn't bring Josh back for the rest of the project.
TBH I really love this game bc it really a had a big impact of my childhood. Playing Madden with friends or cousins at party was the best thing ever. And when I wasn't playing with them I would prbly be able to chill and play with my dad. But I was really young and really didn't care about realistic player movement or smart AI. It just was the feeling the game to me, it always wanted me to have every chance to hop on that ps3 and play some madden. Playing in the super bowl with a 99 everything overall HB was my life. And my love for this game will never ever change.
Played all these games. 25 just felt like it couldn't sim right. It had a really cool my player mode though that felt more realistic than 09-12 and a setting where you could be a backup so you could climb depth charts as receiver or hb if you wanted to. Or like progress your QB through a few years and find a team that fit your guy before starting
My favorite part and also biggest pet peeve with Madden 25 is the progression system. I LOVE that you just earn points and can spend them to level up your player in whatever you want, even physical traits like speed, strength, or agility. The pet peeve is how TEDIOUS and slow it is to buy an investment, wait, buy it again, wait, buy it again. If you have a breakout player (more on this in another post I make) You'll have a guy with a good 60-70K worth of points to use at the end of the season. It takes FOREVER to distribute them. The interface needs to be so much better.
Yeah this is one of the few things the modern games do better imo. They blend user control with RNG in a streamlined package.
In theory I like having the control to change anything and everything but I’ve found in both Madden and 2k that the AI is just really dumb when it comes player progression so it gives the user way too much of an advantage. And, yeah, the process itself is tedious.
The last good Madden. I still play it on for the PS3.
not calling it madden 14 was really short sighted considering how close we are now to 2025
Madden 2025
The last statement saying to play or coach in our community hit different. I only played youth football and couldn’t after do to a injury sustained to my hip. I think I started to hate football games cause it wasn’t the real thing, besides college football games of course. But I’ve been wanting to coach youth football for the longest time now. Hopefully one day I’ll be able to do it.
Madden 25 collector was totally worth it though because it gave you the NFL Sunday Ticket even if you didn't have directtv you could watch all the games from your computer.
Maybe we should start calling out the frostbite engine in videos. It obviously doesn’t do a good job with gameplay even though the graphics r good.
Frostbite is for shooting games so yeah no wonder it go against what they want or us consumers want
This was the first one I played