EVERY Tank is BUFFED | Overwatch 2 - MID SEASON 11 Patch

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  • čas přidán 29. 07. 2024
  • When power creep meets the Autobots and Decepticons...
    Official patch notes (July 9, 2024)
    overwatch.blizzard.com/en-us/...
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    0:00 Intro & Transformers Collab
    0:35 Armor Changes [BUFF]
    1:20 Tank Role Passive [BUFF]
    1:55 DVa [BUFF]
    2:29 Doomfist [BUFF]
    2:55 Junker Queen [BUFF]
    3:22 Mauga [BUFF]
    4:17 Orisa [BUFF]
    4:38 Ramattra [BUFF]
    4:56 Reinhardt [BUFF]
    5:43 Roadhog [BUFF]
    6:09 Sigma [BUFF]
    6:43 Winston [BUFF]
    7:19 Wrecking Ball [BUFF]
    7:56 Zarya [BUFF]
    8:20 DPS Passive [NERF]
    8:56 Ashe [BUFF]
    9:11 Cassidy [NERF]
    9:52 Pharah [NERF]
    10:27 Ana [NERF]
    10:44 Illari [QOL]
    11:01 Zenyatta [BUFF]
    11:17 Audio Update
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Komentáře • 1,1K

  • @KarQ
    @KarQ  Před 20 dny +544

    On paper this patch looks pretty bad. I'll edit this comment in 12 hours after I play it and see if my mind is changed. Anyways - twitch drops on my stream from July 9 - 14 for Symmetra cosmetics: twitch.tv/karq
    Also sry for some audio bugs - I rush these things out ASAP when patch day hits (ow content creator rat race unfortunately) and some oversights happen mb yall.
    Edit 12 hrs later: Tanks are def good, mostly Zarya/Dva. I won't lie from a support pov the game mostly felt the same for me. This patch didn't move the needle in terms of addressing tanking pain points, but the patch itself isn't game breaking. Tanks are just kaiju's that duel the other kaiju and I'm in the back chucking anti's and nanoing my kaiju no 8 to beat their kaiju no 9

    • @TheNyanDoge
      @TheNyanDoge Před 20 dny +7

      DVa was really happy with the buff 💀 2:11

    • @shaquilleoatmeal5332
      @shaquilleoatmeal5332 Před 20 dny +2

      What's the workshop code you using here?

    • @Qaztar44
      @Qaztar44 Před 20 dny +27

      Yo, I get oversights happen and honestly it's not a big deal, but at the same time I don't think anyone is gonna freak out if you take an extra half-hour to upload while you quickly watch the video through on 2x and fix the audio bugs and missing/wrong descriptions. Probably more worth it than not.

    • @Bigworm699
      @Bigworm699 Před 20 dny +2

      He has a monopoly or cap on ow youtube content he must be 1st

    • @DauntlessBlade___
      @DauntlessBlade___ Před 20 dny

      That's ok, I was just caught off guard is all

  • @glpinho
    @glpinho Před 20 dny +762

    2:42 KarQ demonstrating Doomfist's overhealth gain from using his abilities by not hitting one single ability

    • @KarQ
      @KarQ  Před 20 dny +335

      lore accurate

    • @runaway74
      @runaway74 Před 20 dny +8

      ​@@KarQDOOMFIST!!!!!!!! BWAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

  • @FatMCSteve
    @FatMCSteve Před 20 dny +2745

    Ngl this patch is low-key genius, cause it's gonna create more 6v6 supporters than there ever were

    • @alb791
      @alb791 Před 20 dny +26

      In what way ?

    • @Daiyamaruu
      @Daiyamaruu Před 20 dny +426

      @@alb791 in the way that overwatch was designed to be played in 6v6 and almost two years of failed patches to balance 5v5 proves that. Forget that tanks were duos to one help with the weakness of the other, nah, make the schrodinger tank: almost impossible to kill and it's easily shut down.

    • @MarvelousButter
      @MarvelousButter Před 20 dny +149

      @@Daiyamaruu schrodingers tank might be the best explanation of ow2 tanks ive ever heard

    • @felipez3115
      @felipez3115 Před 20 dny +47

      11 seasons already with 5x5, deal with it or don't play it.

    • @Zathren
      @Zathren Před 20 dny +32

      Nah. Never 5v5 is a million times better. Should have been 2 tanks 2 DPS and 1 support

  • @nablan518
    @nablan518 Před 20 dny +1007

    This feels like a "Quick Play hacked" balance patch

    • @olegdusov4273
      @olegdusov4273 Před 19 dny +7

      Except almost all changes are raw fucking numbers, something no one asked for. Hacked, 1st april, content creators patch all had some creative and fun ideas, this patch has none.
      And none of it solves any problems, counterswaps are still here, tank has more agency/power = more free value from swapping to enemy's tank counter.

    • @kenleyreyes
      @kenleyreyes Před 19 dny

      ​@@olegdusov4273 counterswapping doesn't mean anything it's all about how good you are

    • @olegdusov4273
      @olegdusov4273 Před 19 dny +1

      @@kenleyreyes yeah yeah, everyone is bad, top500 are bad, owcs are bad
      You are good, you can make anything work in your metal rank, great job 🤓

    • @kenleyreyes
      @kenleyreyes Před 19 dny

      @@olegdusov4273 ?? I know it's sarcasm but I don't understand

    • @kenleyreyes
      @kenleyreyes Před 19 dny

      @@olegdusov4273 ?? I know its sarcasm but I don't understand

  • @crossc1988
    @crossc1988 Před 20 dny +797

    Bob still has DPS passive! Bob will now have 25% headshot damage reduction, 40% boop resistance, 20% healing debuff to his targets and 1000 HP.

    • @elbromas221
      @elbromas221 Před 20 dny +126

      Bob the best tank

    • @sideeswipe
      @sideeswipe Před 20 dny +4

      He has 1000 hp wdym

    • @crossc1988
      @crossc1988 Před 20 dny +8

      @@sideeswipe You are correct, was reading wiki wrong.

    • @koto2211
      @koto2211 Před 20 dny +45

      The ultimate lifeform

    • @cheyennewhoops191
      @cheyennewhoops191 Před 20 dny +4

      @@crossc1988 Eh, I still feel like he'll get shredded if you just send him in alone

  • @overlordalfredo
    @overlordalfredo Před 20 dny +295

    10:30 oh yeah that pesky Sleep dart explosion DMG is going away finally 😂

    • @elbromas221
      @elbromas221 Před 20 dny +33

      I hated when the sleep dart exploded and killed me instantly, I'm so glad it's gone now 😁

  • @SteampunkCorvus
    @SteampunkCorvus Před 20 dny +131

    10:31 "Sleep dart - Explosion Damage reduced from 30 to 0" By far the most egregious change.

  • @abyssangel76
    @abyssangel76 Před 20 dny +273

    next patch: were buffing the dps role passive because tanks where unkillable

    • @bobsimpson1857
      @bobsimpson1857 Před 20 dny

      Where?

    • @cooler5827
      @cooler5827 Před 19 dny +8

      ​@@bobsimpson1857 it's a joke...

    • @augusthelton
      @augusthelton Před 19 dny +1

      @@cooler5827he used the wrong where, he meant were

    • @abyssangel76
      @abyssangel76 Před 19 dny

      ​@@augustheltonsorry I'm not natal English speaker

    • @William256
      @William256 Před 19 dny

      ​@@augustheltonI'm pretty sure he meant where, as in "where was this stated?"

  • @Denobambino814
    @Denobambino814 Před 20 dny +554

    Worlds longest april fools prank

    • @kingis_dingis8103
      @kingis_dingis8103 Před 20 dny +5

      Bro😂

    • @davidj135
      @davidj135 Před 19 dny +29

      They're really committed to this 5v5 prank, hopefully they'll realize the rest of us stopped laughing during the first beta though.

    • @njxwolverine2493
      @njxwolverine2493 Před 11 dny

      No tanks needed a buff

  • @MrLuc237
    @MrLuc237 Před 20 dny +180

    I feel like the amount of times we've seen zarya bubble go from 2 to 2.5 to 2 is insane.

    • @EpicMel0ns
      @EpicMel0ns Před 19 dny +2

      I was just thinking about like fr they need to make up their mind

    • @undeny
      @undeny Před 19 dny +22

      Make it 2.25 already and call it a day devs!!

    • @armando5994
      @armando5994 Před 19 dny +2

      and every time they change zarya i don’t feel any difference when i play her 💀

    •  Před 19 dny +6

      Guys I don't think the ow2 team has the same ideas as ow1 devs. Ow1 devs wanted to make the perfect game and said they would NEVER revert changes. This isn't about making the game perfect - it's about changing the meta and adjusting for newly released or overpowered or underpowered heroes.

    • @i2seven
      @i2seven Před 19 dny

      yeap

  • @Misciagna31
    @Misciagna31 Před 20 dny +265

    FYI the explanation of the Adaptation shields change is wrong. Allies still receive 75 HP but it now only costs Ball 50 of his own HP per ally.

    • @MrSting-fz2sn
      @MrSting-fz2sn Před 20 dny +6

      Thanks

    •  Před 19 dny

      What do you mean by cost?

    • @ImHaise
      @ImHaise Před 19 dny +2

      It's a ratio, 2:3. If ball has, say, 200 adaptive shields, he can give out 75 individual per 50. 75x4 = 300, so if he had 200 shield, he'd be able to give out 300. I'm pretty sure that's how it works

    • @Antonio-ys5zd
      @Antonio-ys5zd Před 19 dny +2

      Still a fairly stupid "buff". Most of the time it isn't practical

  • @guinea_horn
    @guinea_horn Před 20 dny +415

    Jump scare around 2:15
    Edit: it's been fixed

    • @guinea_horn
      @guinea_horn Před 20 dny +33

      Missing commentary around 6:10 too

    • @Lyra_dragonal
      @Lyra_dragonal Před 20 dny +13

      Ow that just hurts my ears!!

    • @GunieaPig
      @GunieaPig Před 20 dny +4

      Wtf @KarQ

    • @Hera3.14
      @Hera3.14 Před 20 dny +1

      My manic laughter is almost palpable through the comment 😈😈

    • @Hera3.14
      @Hera3.14 Před 20 dny +2

      OH THE SOUND ERROR 😂😂😂😂💀💀💀💀💀

  • @gravityhacks1879
    @gravityhacks1879 Před 20 dny +361

    2:10
    Jumpscare

    • @KarQ
      @KarQ  Před 20 dny +59

      my bad, patch came out 2pm my time and I was rushing to get it out ASAP - got it done in 2 hours (4pm) and missed a few of the audio glitches

    • @crazytiger7015
      @crazytiger7015 Před 19 dny +1

      @@KarQyour good KarQ we still love you

    • @user-eo4it2rn1f
      @user-eo4it2rn1f Před 18 dny

      what was the jumpscare?

  • @andrewwood1364
    @andrewwood1364 Před 20 dny +377

    Season 9 health buff becoming obsolete if we just raise all the damage numbers

    • @timce9220
      @timce9220 Před 20 dny +86

      Slowly becoming paladins hp bars

    • @MarvelousButter
      @MarvelousButter Před 20 dny +48

      @@andrewwood1364 you have just learned what power creep is

    • @alfredocaceres4680
      @alfredocaceres4680 Před 20 dny +6

      Exactly what I was thinking, what was the point of that patch

    • @RealEllenDeGeneres
      @RealEllenDeGeneres Před 20 dny +10

      @@alfredocaceres4680 It's basically the same thing Apple does with their product design. They legit just swap back and forth between the same design every few generations. From flat, to rounded, then flat again. Because it just creates a sense of "new". The Blizzard team isn't trying to make the game perfectly balanced, they're just buffing certain aspects every once in a while to make it feel new and then buffing other aspects later to bring them back up to par.

    • @DDoig1
      @DDoig1 Před 20 dny

      I knew that would happen.

  • @dg-dm1rr
    @dg-dm1rr Před 20 dny +26

    Every tank player rn: Suffer As I Have!

  • @jasonh6312
    @jasonh6312 Před 20 dny +41

    I feel like the "Enemy health bars now display when they are at their Low Health threshold" change is one of the most notable ones of this patch, but I don't see a lot of folks talking abou tit

    • @sebastianrodriguez8992
      @sebastianrodriguez8992 Před 19 dny +3

      Plus a bunch of little audio and visual changes honestly it's been a decent patch so far for me anyways not sure about the Champion sweat lords experience tho but for me on average I'm having fun in qp and arcade and all that with occasional comp matches

    • @notsosaltygator
      @notsosaltygator Před 19 dny

      Love the audio

    • @_V.Va_
      @_V.Va_ Před 18 dny

      Because everyone would rather voice their skill issue than talk about anything worthwhile.

  • @DaDomBoi
    @DaDomBoi Před 20 dny +26

    4:51
    Bro.....
    That hurt my soul a bit to watch, poor Rein got yoinked from glory

    • @black7594
      @black7594 Před 20 dny +7

      lifeweaver is a fucking joke

    • @Churrros
      @Churrros Před 20 dny +2

      I'm glad someone is talking about it

    • @emma6648
      @emma6648 Před 19 dny +1

      @@black7594why? It’s fun to troll

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ Před 19 dny +1

      ​@@black7594seen good plays with countering zarya, Orisa, etc with his petal or even tree

  • @agletuser6738
    @agletuser6738 Před 20 dny +200

    Lifeweaver found dead in a dumpster

    • @scumknight6074
      @scumknight6074 Před 20 dny +46

      And Mercy’s the lid

    • @brown9671
      @brown9671 Před 20 dny +11

      This patch might be better for Lifeweaver, just healbot your gigatank and if he’s better then the enemies tank you just roll them, we’ll see tho

    • @rfewer
      @rfewer Před 20 dny +27

      @@brown9671what a fun way to play

    • @masterfy24
      @masterfy24 Před 19 dny +3

      GOOD!!!

    • @swiftypopty1102
      @swiftypopty1102 Před 19 dny

      Wiveleaver

  • @lighter9692
    @lighter9692 Před 20 dny +11

    “Winston is currently very strong so we’re gonna buff him cuz his secondary fire isn’t that ‘satisfying’. We also wanna make him killable when he ults so we’re going to increase his health”

    What?

    • @kenleyreyes
      @kenleyreyes Před 19 dny

      The secondary fire is not the strong aspect of Winston bro and they buff his primal health so he has a better chance to survive in moments he could die quickly

  • @offbrandcereals
    @offbrandcereals Před 20 dny +59

    2:11 super loud noise

  • @daviddiett2168
    @daviddiett2168 Před 20 dny +59

    BOB had the DPS passive like other turrets right? And they give him the Tank passives as well? What the hell are these people thinking?

    • @HmongHeroo
      @HmongHeroo Před 20 dny

      Does it have both or just the tank passive now?

    • @daviddiett2168
      @daviddiett2168 Před 20 dny

      @@HmongHeroo I might be wrong since Sym and Torb turrets apply them (which is dumb imo) but a lot of things in this patch weren't needed and the issues people had don't feel like they've been addressed

    • @Az-ecim
      @Az-ecim Před 20 dny +27

      Do you play Ashe? Have you ever pressed Q just to see your Butler Omnic death in the top right corner of the screen in 2 seconds?
      This ultimate is much less strong than you may think of it. If there's Ana or Sombra(which is pretty often seen pick vs Ashe) you can just throw away your Q button you'll not need it.
      In most cases opponents tank needs only to keep BOB busy for 2-3 secs so that his team may kill it freely.
      I didn't even mention this ultimate's cost. It's super huge, you won't be able to use it more than 3 times in a game unless you're good as fck yet not good enough to win the game in few minutes

    • @daviddiett2168
      @daviddiett2168 Před 20 dny +1

      @@Az-ecim No, I'm not much of an Ashe player, I do need to practice more but I have seen both sides of BOB either being melted or used to pressure an exposed backline.
      It doesn't need to be the strongest ult if it used correctly, I just don't understand why they need to apply passives to him instead of just tweaking his damage and health.
      There's a lot this patch I don't agree with put this felt like a random choice to me.

    • @Az-ecim
      @Az-ecim Před 20 dny

      @@daviddiett2168 Than you understand that still is an ultimate. Strongest Ashe's ability which is supposed to bring at least some profit considering it is to be used 3 times in the whole game tops
      If Ashe uses it correctly it just have to bring some profit. If opponents can just melt it in seconds, ok but make it keep em busy for a little bit more. Cause BOB is static no one struggles to headshot him. This patch make him survive that shots for a lil bit longer and that's good. He can still be hacked, sleeped, booped or pushed down the cliffs or into some close space rooms from where he doesn't do anything. But now these pushes aren't That hardly efficient and that's also good. Still doesn't make him any disbalanced.
      Anyway u still have hide option so he couldn't kill you

  • @DauntlessBlade___
    @DauntlessBlade___ Před 20 dny +48

    2:10 That was very loud ouch

  • @serantos
    @serantos Před 20 dny +38

    "Look how they massacred my boy" patch :(

    • @Afrodoodle
      @Afrodoodle Před 19 dny +3

      Who? Mcree? Deserved

    • @TamWam_
      @TamWam_ Před 19 dny

      ​​@@Afrodoodlenah the whole game

    • @Afrodoodle
      @Afrodoodle Před 19 dny

      @@TamWam_ so true, so true. 👌🏾

  • @guyincognito7518
    @guyincognito7518 Před 20 dny +45

    Well open queues cooked, it already was throwing if you didn’t pick all tanks and heals, now they might aswell delete dps as an option

    • @onelongwordable
      @onelongwordable Před 20 dny +15

      Well that's why they made role queue like what do you even want? "Open queue but I get to play DPS" Why?

    • @LampDoesVideogame
      @LampDoesVideogame Před 19 dny

      So, I thought this patch was going to be used as an exaggeration of tank issues so they could go "This is why we should go back to 6v6"... They might even use it as an excuse to get rid of open queue, so that everyone's forced into Role Queue.

    • @Javano_
      @Javano_ Před 19 dny +2

      Local area man chooses to play open queue and complains about the inherent concepts that make open queue open queue.

    • @revenge3265
      @revenge3265 Před 19 dny +1

      The game has never been balanced for Open Queue, but this is also flat out wrong. Nearly every game I've played in Open Queue GM last season was 2-1-2

  • @kaiserrat70
    @kaiserrat70 Před 20 dny +132

    What the hell is Blizzard even doing now

    • @RealEllenDeGeneres
      @RealEllenDeGeneres Před 20 dny +28

      You're just asking this question now? They've been lost since all the way back when the OW1 content drought started. They've done everything wrong since that point.

    • @elder218
      @elder218 Před 20 dny +7

      Trying to officially kill the game

    • @bulletbro4745
      @bulletbro4745 Před 20 dny +10

      They’re trying so hard to make 5v5 work. I was with 5v5 until later on in ow2. They’re just making me want 6v6 more and more now

    • @Alex_Aramayo
      @Alex_Aramayo Před 19 dny

      Smoking that good shit

    • @Arthur-jf9nj
      @Arthur-jf9nj Před 19 dny +4

      making tank have more power since everyone blames tank at the end of every game (i’m a tank main that consistently does the best on all of my teams)(i consistently get blamed, it’s at least half of my games)

  • @willwunsche6940
    @willwunsche6940 Před 20 dny +6

    This is the craziest patch since like the 2016 bastion patch that made him 100% pickrate meta for 3 days and I am here for the chaos. It's gonna be wild

  • @thecanadiandefender1451
    @thecanadiandefender1451 Před 20 dny +190

    Careful at 2:10 folks, audio bug jumpscare

    • @lunasmileyy
      @lunasmileyy Před 20 dny +8

      this is like the third time its happened lol his editor needs to rewatch his renders

    • @sayahhx8300
      @sayahhx8300 Před 20 dny

      I read this, went back to listen to it and still got scared. No ear phones either 😂😢😅

  • @cobrakaachi
    @cobrakaachi Před 20 dny +23

    There’s a secret nerf for ramattra as his nemesis form cooldown is 11 seconds as it used to be 7 seconds

    • @aidenmeislitzer7774
      @aidenmeislitzer7774 Před 20 dny +15

      I think it’s a bug as all his cooldowns are at 11 seconds

    • @sebastianrodriguez8992
      @sebastianrodriguez8992 Před 19 dny

      I saw this too but when I go into an actual game it's 7 again it's just the testing range it looks like

  • @Skycube100
    @Skycube100 Před 20 dny +10

    As a Tank player, I don't need to be more unkillable, Tanks are already good at Tanking damage. Tanks are bad at Tanking CCs and bad at making cover for teammates while also taking space.
    Just a suggestion:
    - Maybe add CC reduction/mitigation on Armor health
    - A passive that reduces the CC effect by half after getting CCd means if you get naded and then get sleep darted you take half less of the sleep dart effect.
    - Introduce new abilities to Tank in the form of Barriers. Yes, Bunker and Goats comps were a traumatic experience, however, that is because two tanks with shields, a busted op Brig, and Bap were allowed back then in OW1. With only one tank now, having a deployable shield or support kit like Rammattra/MirrorWatch Widow Barrier, a mini Dva succ, or a Soldier Heal pad could help.
    Tanks shouldn't be good at tanking damage in OW, they should also be CC mitigators/denials.

    • @Thrillhouse89
      @Thrillhouse89 Před 19 dny +2

      Or we could have 2 tanks again like in ow1 but just reduce the shield damage absorbed when 2 shields play together

    • @kenleyreyes
      @kenleyreyes Před 19 dny

      Bro what? The game is already like this

    • @Takemura77
      @Takemura77 Před 18 dny

      Sped found

    • @njxwolverine2493
      @njxwolverine2493 Před 11 dny

      There is no way you’re a legit tank player, I’m diamond-master tank and I’ll tell you now tanks needed a buff… you’re talking your ass if you say tanks didn’t need to be more unkillable, who are you trying to impress here? Sitting and lying that tanks are already tanky enough???

  • @Skyrdr
    @Skyrdr Před 20 dny +24

    I’ve been optimistic about this game. I thought all the Doomers were doing more harm to the game than anything else. This patch is so bad, I think it finally validated the doomers

    • @KILLOXY
      @KILLOXY Před 20 dny

      exactly 💀

    • @jaydinthegod
      @jaydinthegod Před 20 dny +1

      Ofc. Our character is shit

    • @runaway74
      @runaway74 Před 20 dny

      DOOMFIST!!!!!!! BWAAAHHHH!!!!!!!

    • @TwilightWolf285
      @TwilightWolf285 Před 19 dny

      This patch is great, are you okay?
      Tanks are finally playable again.

    • @runaway74
      @runaway74 Před 19 dny +3

      @@TwilightWolf285 yeah! This patch is great! You know, for two of the ten players in the lobby!!

  • @klonewess9736
    @klonewess9736 Před 20 dny +59

    So they nerf Cassidy and revert Pharah…after Pharah has an over 50% win rate and reverting Cassidy to ow1

    • @joelfernando6914
      @joelfernando6914 Před 20 dny +5

      And pharah doesn't get big nerfs

    • @Novin.S
      @Novin.S Před 20 dny +14

      Nerfed his left click, right click, and made his grenade really bad. His damage fall off was nerfed so many times that I lost count.

    • @clarkkent1616
      @clarkkent1616 Před 20 dny

      @@Novin.Sthey just really don't like him in that long range role

    • @agustinnarvaez5251
      @agustinnarvaez5251 Před 20 dny +2

      its weird because cassidy to be fair over performs in close range now. Couple head shots as you close in, flashbang, barrage, roll, barrage and as long as he got aim most people are gone. However cassidy imo was a great idea of pseudo-sniper for those that dont like characters like widow or ashe. So i would've touched flashbang in a way where it was usable long range, like making an ACTUAL flashbang without range limit that makes blind enemies more vulnerable to headshots, something like that.

    • @usagibnuuy2070
      @usagibnuuy2070 Před 17 dny

      Are we gonna complain about pharah nerfs????? And her 59% wineate????!??

  • @nogunk147
    @nogunk147 Před 20 dny +7

    The patch before this they said we dont want cassidy to be so tanky as a dps hitscan so they removed or decreased the damage reduction components to his kit. Now theyre saying we want him to be a tanky hitscan so were nerfing his range but not reverting any of the damage reduction changes. Lmao what? Is this hero the new Nerf Genji meme or what

  • @--Glory--
    @--Glory-- Před 20 dny +246

    It’s miraculous that they have somehow made the strongest and most impactful role the worst and most miserable to play, while gaslighting themselves into thinking it needs further buffs without addressing any of the actual issues tank players have. This game is so cooked unless some serious changes in the team’s approach happen.

    • @grizzegrizz
      @grizzegrizz Před 20 dny +38

      I always see how people complain about the issues that tanks have but never see what those issues are specifically or any suggestions to fix those said issues. I don’t play tank so im not aware of what they are and just want to be educated on what they are and suggestions to fix them?

    • @woof7611
      @woof7611 Před 20 dny +5

      @@grizzegrizz player opinion does not matter the dev team never knew and will never learn how to balance the game :/

    • @Arin-3
      @Arin-3 Před 20 dny +27

      @@grizzegrizzmost people just talk about “tank issues” because they think 6v6 will be better, not that they actually care to learn what they are.

    • @--Glory--
      @--Glory-- Před 20 dny +57

      @@grizzegrizzThe issue is that the tank player on a team is as strong as two players (due to the power of the two tanks in 6v6 being put in the hands of one tank in 5v5) making the gameplay asymmetrical and the tank player by far the most valuable person on a team. If one player is that strong, they are also the most valuable to kill, resulting in most games becoming “focus down the tank to win.” Due to tanks being so powerful and hard to kill though, a lot of the time instead of playing strategically and catching the tank out of position (which they don’t really get punished for as hard as the other roles due to their insane survivability) the most effective tactic is to counter-swap the tank. This cycle is boring and unskillful in most peoples eyes, and forces DPS and support players to swap off the characters they actually want to play in order to win, and just makes the tank experience an overall miserable game of rock paper scissors.
      I’m no game designer so I can’t offer a perfect solution, and I doubt anyone truly can, but I can tell you this patch definitely isn’t the way to go. Tanks are already insanely powerful, and making them even stronger and more impactful will only force players to counter-swap to hard focus them even more. Obviously a lot of people propose 6v6, which I do think would fix a lot of issues, but I don’t have much faith that the dev team would ever go back to that because in a way it would be them admitting defeat. Unless they do 6v6 though, they really need to look at each individual character (including DPS and supports) and look at how they interact, synergize, and counter tanks and change it on a character by character basis. Big sweeping buffs to an already powerful role will NOT help, yet they continue to do stuff like this.

    • @gamist8166
      @gamist8166 Před 20 dny +17

      @@grizzegrizz 6v6 and 5v5 debates will get you up to speed. Literally any of them. The point of 5v5 was queue times, no if's and's or butt's, and it definitely did not solve those, top 500 tank is diamond 1 lmao nobody is playing the role even by a worse margin than when we needed 2 tanks for every game. Then there's endless reasons 6v6 was better for gameplay. A tank's weakness could be mitigated by their counterpart, like dva helping winston or sigma helping orisa even if they were a lil broken back when they could play together. Since they can't now, the entire game is counterswap the enemy tank. AND the tank gets 100% of the blame, in 90% of the games. Whether it truly was their fault or not.

  • @kidkonundrum4592
    @kidkonundrum4592 Před 20 dny +29

    Ya know, as a Cass main, I ain’t even mad at this point. Happens every time he’s meta. He’s good for a season, then they nerf him into the ground.
    Welp bois, looks like it’s back to the ranch for us. YEEEEHHAAAAWWW🤠

    • @runaway74
      @runaway74 Před 20 dny +2

      YEEEEHAWWWWWW!!! See you there partner!!

    • @revenge3265
      @revenge3265 Před 19 dny +8

      Nerfing him doesn't even make sense considering Pharah is meta

    • @kidkonundrum4592
      @kidkonundrum4592 Před 19 dny +6

      @@revenge3265 it makes sense in the sense that Blizz will never allow Cass to be even slightly meta for more then one second.
      On a more serious note though he wasn’t even oppressive this meta. Sure he was S tier for sure, but he’s easily counter able and has a ton of weaknesses. But no sure let’s take away a ton of his right click damage and nerf his already poor range into the ground.

  • @fugonee
    @fugonee Před 20 dny +112

    This feels like a really petty overbuffing of tanks due to their complaints...

    • @loball-dz6ui
      @loball-dz6ui Před 20 dny

      😊The only 😮😮

    • @Ashkanman
      @Ashkanman Před 19 dny +5

      Overbuffing? What a joke it's been the most punishing role to play since ow2 launched. They can exist alongside their team now

    • @Nicholas_4641
      @Nicholas_4641 Před 19 dny

      @@Ashkanmanthen just increase the health not nerf the damage role wth

    • @revenge3265
      @revenge3265 Před 19 dny +6

      ​​@@Ashkanman Literally every high level Tank player says Tanks are strong balance wise but just feel miserable to play. Buffs aren't the answer unless you're trash at the game. The answer is reducing the stress of Tank and unfun it is to eat basically every ability from the enemy team.

    • @whitecollargraffiti8348
      @whitecollargraffiti8348 Před 19 dny

      They hate ball

  • @WunderWulfe
    @WunderWulfe Před 20 dny +27

    the wrecking ball shield patch was misread. it takes 50 overhealth from wrecking ball and gives an ally 75, 2:3** ratio rather than 1:1
    also, i want my lucioball skin back 🐹

    • @keeganbate8935
      @keeganbate8935 Před 20 dny

      I'm just mad porcelain left the shop for ball

    • @WunderWulfe
      @WunderWulfe Před 19 dny

      @@keeganbate8935 it doesnt leave forever. it rotates in the shop as a bundle every now and then. ive seen it three or four times

    • @JamesJackel
      @JamesJackel Před 19 dny

      that would be 2:3 not 3:4

    • @WunderWulfe
      @WunderWulfe Před 19 dny

      @@JamesJackel yea, thats correct. my bad

  • @ljb5163
    @ljb5163 Před 20 dny +39

    This is their last attempt at trying to force 5v5. There’s no way this is real otherwise.

    • @BuffNesquikBunny
      @BuffNesquikBunny Před 20 dny +16

      I’ve been an “just play 5v5 and shut up” advocate for all of ow2 but this patch is a fucking joke.
      The end is nigh, it has to be.

    • @regularwaterfowl1749
      @regularwaterfowl1749 Před 19 dny

      It wasn't any better with 6v6. Heroes have been getting powercrept and over-buffed since 2016.

    • @Kiddos77
      @Kiddos77 Před 19 dny +6

      @@regularwaterfowl1749 you can atleast win a 1v1 against roadhog as reaper in ow1, now you need dmg boost, and nano boost to atleast drop him to half health

    • @user-zr4er6zy9v
      @user-zr4er6zy9v Před 19 dny +10

      @@regularwaterfowl1749not really, overwatch 1 had wayy more even balancing. here the devs are just throwing random changes in hope they will work.

    • @panzerschiff9805
      @panzerschiff9805 Před 19 dny +1

      Honestly I can't blame the OW team because 6v6 still made tanks miserable to play with and against.
      The tank role in this game is, no matter what, horribly designed.

  • @poroplaysow1701
    @poroplaysow1701 Před 20 dny +6

    also a little hidden nerf to ram the cooldown of his form is increase to 11 second this is not written in the patch notes however it is in game

    • @IronMan-jj2fd
      @IronMan-jj2fd Před 19 dny

      Boy it's not a nerf! It's a bug causing all of his cooldowns to be 11 secs.
      His nemesis only had 7 secs cooldown. If they really made it 11, literally nobody would play Ram!

  • @rouge_blackjack161
    @rouge_blackjack161 Před 20 dny +42

    So the support for 6v6 is gonna be at an all time high, with manual feedback from the community the devs will be under more pressure than ever

  • @JAxz5
    @JAxz5 Před 20 dny +162

    As a tank main, this is horrible, i wanted to be able to pick more tanks whenever i want, this only means i need to counters swap more often

    • @Catbeans99
      @Catbeans99 Před 20 dny +8

      Stop trying to fight the enemy tank 🤦‍♂️

    • @ronramen5827
      @ronramen5827 Před 20 dny +3

      Played before reading the patch notes, and honestly counter swapping didn't matter. Maybe it's just how low ranks play, but I went through several games on Doomfist, the enemy swapped to Orisa or Roadhog, and it wasn't really impactful.

    • @pocolocoheyya3375
      @pocolocoheyya3375 Před 20 dny +25

      @@Catbeans99 This isn't about tank vs tank it's about tank vs literally everyone else on the other team. You go Doom and you have to deal with Ana, Zen, Sombra, Pharah. And that's not including all the other characters they could be running to counter you or the other tank.

    • @pocolocoheyya3375
      @pocolocoheyya3375 Před 20 dny +2

      @@ronramen5827 It does depend on ranking but the it's not the fact if you can do it or not, it's more of the fact the DIFFICULTY and patience to even deal with that.

    • @Catbeans99
      @Catbeans99 Před 20 dny +3

      @@pocolocoheyya3375 welcome to online gaming, do you need to be shown around? You seem to be having a difficult time figuring out for yourself.

  • @moonchester6854
    @moonchester6854 Před 19 dny +3

    new patch is crazy cleared 50gb from my storage

  • @niallmoseley6760
    @niallmoseley6760 Před 20 dny +11

    Bro 5 v 5 is getting so dumb now. Its like doing CPR on a mummy at this point.

  • @kavidudesilva2414
    @kavidudesilva2414 Před 19 dny +2

    4:50 that rein is so pissed omg

  • @toraow
    @toraow Před 20 dny +8

    All publicity is good publicity? Right? RIGHT???

  • @mofoman1239
    @mofoman1239 Před 20 dny +10

    What was that jump scare!

  • @CaseyGumball
    @CaseyGumball Před 20 dny +3

    Hey karq around 10:30 it says explosive damage reduced instead of sleep dart duration reduced

  • @SirTriton
    @SirTriton Před 19 dny +2

    I love how the overwatch devs are just making the tanks invincible, Surely this won’t have any negative effects on the game

  • @aaronbarragan8339
    @aaronbarragan8339 Před 20 dny +1

    Thanks for making content for all these years. I always wait for your updates because you explain very well and right to the point 💯/💯

  • @infochan6776
    @infochan6776 Před 20 dny +4

    Surely blizzard doesnt think that making huge changes all at once wont have any repercussions at all right? They really need to go back to making weekly/biweekly balance patches...

  • @Dude-X-Perfect
    @Dude-X-Perfect Před 20 dny +10

    1:05 as a genji main player I shouldn’t report to the principal office. But instead I should speak up to blizzard until they stops nerfing genji and brings back 6v6

  • @krazyjoker720
    @krazyjoker720 Před 19 dny

    I love your patch notes videos! Clean and informative :) I look forward to them each patch

  • @shaquilleoatmeal5332
    @shaquilleoatmeal5332 Před 20 dny +1

    Anyone here know the workshop code karq uses here in the practice range? The damage numbers one

  • @stillmamo
    @stillmamo Před 20 dny +9

    W Illari Change 😭

  • @Lyra_dragonal
    @Lyra_dragonal Před 20 dny +5

    What is this insane power creep of HP and survival!!?!!?

  • @gravecompanion
    @gravecompanion Před 18 dny

    thank you cactuspuppy for putting this together for the community!

  • @danielmcguiness2745
    @danielmcguiness2745 Před 20 dny +1

    KarQ! the sound goes during the start of sigmas changes btw

  • @1019Freedom
    @1019Freedom Před 20 dny +4

    Winton needs a Optimus Primal skin

  • @noahs.stupid44
    @noahs.stupid44 Před 20 dny +4

    I gave up on the game after season 9. Honestly no point in playing a game that keeps changing and getting worse each change

  • @0nics
    @0nics Před 19 dny +2

    Idk what they smoked to nerf McCree again and kinda buff Pharah but I want that stuff too cuz clearly this stuff hits like a truck

  • @FrostReach66
    @FrostReach66 Před 20 dny +1

    They cooked in the wrong kitchen and that kitchen still exploded

  • @violist833
    @violist833 Před 20 dny +55

    Buffing tank doesn’t actually fix the core issues of the role in 5v5

    • @Az-ecim
      @Az-ecim Před 20 dny

      Which ones?

    • @putterz
      @putterz Před 20 dny +7

      @@Az-ecimthe game just becomes feed the tank and shoot the tank. tank instantly becomes the most valuable thing to attack so everyone applies their abilities and focus to it. makes it super unfun to play and not fun to play with.

    • @yvbtxbysvyscbu7647
      @yvbtxbysvyscbu7647 Před 20 dny +1

      ​@@Az-ecimthe main issue is counterswapping by making each tank stronger it will make counterswapping even more prominent and nessecary. This will make playing tank even more miserable to play.

    • @Az-ecim
      @Az-ecim Před 20 dny +2

      @@putterz Why? I see no changes that make you prioritize tank as target. They didn't buff their dmg, they did buff tanks survivability. So it's actually more easy and valuable for you to kill supports and damage guys first

    • @Az-ecim
      @Az-ecim Před 20 dny +1

      @@yvbtxbysvyscbu7647 Probably now that counters of yours won't be that hard for tank thanks to buffs

  • @bridgetopeace7449
    @bridgetopeace7449 Před 20 dny +10

    No Lifeweaver buffs :( Man, I wish they'd transfer that 15 second lifegrip from Community Crafted, really felt good without it being too strong

  • @marcuscyl6653
    @marcuscyl6653 Před 18 dny

    its like we are in a perpetual clown fiesta and a full speed clown car

  • @krus-t1791
    @krus-t1791 Před 20 dny +2

    It’s not the tanks that need to be buffed it’s the factor of counter picking that needs to be debuffed

  • @anderskjr1964
    @anderskjr1964 Před 20 dny +6

    This patch feels terrible to play.

  • @Terror-Gene
    @Terror-Gene Před 19 dny +1

    6:07, editor been dropping the ball!

  • @TIoerSoec
    @TIoerSoec Před 19 dny +1

    I understand that BOB had a passive DPS like other turrets. And they also grant him the Tank passives? How on earth can these folks think?

  • @M4SKED2001
    @M4SKED2001 Před 20 dny +40

    So Tank is going to be even more oppressive?
    Got it, very cool Blizzard
    Also KarQ at 2:11 with the sudden cut, there's a loud screeching just so you know
    The start of the Sigma segment your mic is cut out a bit as well

    • @psychonut348
      @psychonut348 Před 20 dny +8

      more oppressive lol

    • @Taylorperchasemccarthy
      @Taylorperchasemccarthy Před 20 dny +1

      @@psychonut348Tank is individually a very oppressive role the problem is they aren’t fun to play because of DPS being also oppressive and support being garbage. Each tank individually was broken, the role as a whole was the problem.

    • @psychonut348
      @psychonut348 Před 18 dny

      @@Taylorperchasemccarthy support being garbage hahah, they were tankier than tanks

    • @Taylorperchasemccarthy
      @Taylorperchasemccarthy Před 17 dny

      @@psychonut348 support was good for like two seasons before tanks started whining, they blanket nerfed the entire role, we went into Mauga meta for half a season, the second half of season 8 was actually pretty fun, and then season 9 pretty much exclusively ruined supports and since they’ve double downed on it with keeping cauterize at 20%, somehow managing to nerf awful supports like Weaver, managing to buff the only good one in Lucio, not addressing the fact that Mercy has been pretty awful for 3 straight seasons, or the fact that it literally doesn’t have a role passive anymore. Support hasn’t really been fun since that Ram Queen Orisa meta at the end of season 8, and I am of the hot take opinion that honestly support needs to be good for tank to feel good. If we can do our job, you can do yours. Tanks complained supports out of the game and now complain that they aren’t able to work well because they die too fast (because there’s next to no notable healing), and now each of them is at their individual strongest so it’s less fun to play into on any role.
      Support was strong in seasons 6 and 7, I’ll give you that, but I honestly think tanks in 8 and 11 and DPS in 9 and 10 have been stronger than support ever was. Support needs SOMETHING right now.

  • @jamesfaloon4831
    @jamesfaloon4831 Před 20 dny +3

    hoping for a LW buff.

  • @user-eo4it2rn1f
    @user-eo4it2rn1f Před 18 dny

    does the bob knockback res affect allies pusing him by body collision get reduce?

  • @raphaelkishimoto870
    @raphaelkishimoto870 Před 17 dny +1

    The Overwatch classification should be one in the open format, but it would be like this:
    You chose 2 tanks and you can't choose more or 2 dps or 2 healers, it would be 5 against 5 but with a limit of two heroes for each role, that is, you could have different compositions with balanced tanks, you could play 2 tanks, 2 dps and a healer, or 1 tank, 2 dps and 2 heals or 2 tanks, 1 dps and 2 heals, this would be a general rank avoiding trolling like the game in such a role I will troll and also the game would have the balance of the old combos in a balanced and intelligent way. Only Blizzard would do this to reduce the queue time because it would be one thing and it would also continue 5v5
    •When I say balanced tank it is in the open queue format with less life, because by function since there can only be one tank as mandatory they have to be acquired with exaggerated life and exaggerated damage, and the way I said it wouldn't work To have 3 of each hero making a break like 3 tanks and two heals or some role left out, because there would necessarily have to be at least 1 of each role and a maximum of 2 of each role.

  • @koalakobe7899
    @koalakobe7899 Před 20 dny +9

    I physically can’t watch anyone’s patch notes expect yours bro

    • @jerbsherb4391
      @jerbsherb4391 Před 20 dny +2

      I was not excepting you to say that

    • @Zephyrius8
      @Zephyrius8 Před 19 dny

      @@jerbsherb4391i dont know how to feel about this comment, other than disappointment, but i excepted more from both of you

  • @Andrewstown
    @Andrewstown Před 20 dny +2

    Do you guys hear… INFLATION!

  • @ninthfriend3347
    @ninthfriend3347 Před 20 dny +2

    This patch has pushed tanks to be more raid bosses. Looks like I'm bringing out my good ole Gally!

  • @Theguyoverthere603
    @Theguyoverthere603 Před 20 dny +2

    10:29 The text here is incorrect

  • @christsolos
    @christsolos Před 20 dny +2

    they so scared of 6v6 man lmao, wtf is this

  • @MythicMint
    @MythicMint Před 20 dny +5

    So tanks are still miserable but people will hate us even more!
    Depression my old friend so nice to see you.

  • @kobebeeftv7448
    @kobebeeftv7448 Před 19 dny +1

    I wish they’d try reworking tank role to where they have similar health pools as other roles, while retaining their defensive abilities and upping their dps. Tank focus defense abilities, dps focus mobility, and support focus healing abilities. Tank just has too much weight in its current state.

  • @DragonEngineer_
    @DragonEngineer_ Před 19 dny

    Good thing to note because Bob now has Tank passive, Bob is also resistant to Ana's sleep dart (3s duration instead of 5s)

  • @sparrowilan7418
    @sparrowilan7418 Před 20 dny +3

    Ow2 is too much complicated 😮‍💨

  • @travis_ow
    @travis_ow Před 20 dny +4

    i laugh so god damn hard on 2:10

  • @stalky4
    @stalky4 Před 19 dny

    does Bob also have the reduced sleep dart duration with the tank passive?

  • @samasaurus6
    @samasaurus6 Před 20 dny

    The silent Sigma rock throw made be chuckle

  • @iiballisticpanda
    @iiballisticpanda Před 20 dny +3

    jesus karq you rushed this video and it kinda shows lol
    also orisa can headshot with her javelin now

  • @MonalisaS
    @MonalisaS Před 20 dny +7

    They really wanna die on the 5v5 is better hill eh

  • @SmutGrrl
    @SmutGrrl Před 19 dny

    Thank you Cactus Puppy!

  • @CabinetClown
    @CabinetClown Před 20 dny +1

    2:11 freaking ow my ears dude

  • @darcidious99
    @darcidious99 Před 20 dny +19

    I keep saying that this game can't get any worse, and my god the devs sure know how to test that fucking statement. At this point I'm not even mad anymore, it's genuinely hilarious to see just how incompetent they are. Those mauga buffs are especially hysterical, can't just let him and the horse die for a couple of seasons like they did to rein and ball huh?

    • @liane4276
      @liane4276 Před 20 dny +7

      Mauga isn't impossible to counter play as a rein player. Literally just counter charge him when he charges and shield when he over drives. Maybe learn the counter play dynamics instead of complaining all the time.

    • @BeastMode-bw2ry
      @BeastMode-bw2ry Před 20 dny +4

      @liane4276 😂😂😂

    • @toazel8679
      @toazel8679 Před 20 dny +3

      ​@@liane4276No way, a silver spotted in the wild!

    • @mat_gage5185
      @mat_gage5185 Před 20 dny +2

      @@liane4276u can’t counter charge him

    • @elbromas221
      @elbromas221 Před 20 dny +1

      ​@@mat_gage5185 I think it means when a Mauga charges at you but he doesn't stun you, you charge at him or something like that

  • @ytk3797
    @ytk3797 Před 20 dny +12

    They really gonna die on the 5v5 hill huh

  • @kokushibo1014
    @kokushibo1014 Před 19 dny +1

    I love how they buffed already broken characters like mauga and zarya

  • @Monochrome_227
    @Monochrome_227 Před 17 dny

    Thought it was I this patch but it isn’t, but when did they fuck up phara’s ultimate?

  • @Reve42
    @Reve42 Před 20 dny +5

    They buffed defense matrix ????
    Ok I’m not playing this season.
    See you whenever they nerf it.

  • @destroazuredx484
    @destroazuredx484 Před 20 dny +3

    BETTER NERF GENJI

  • @MohnadBs
    @MohnadBs Před 19 dny

    Dude i LOVE THE INTRO

  • @weegee42069
    @weegee42069 Před 17 dny +1

    Before they were the tank class
    Now they are just the tank from l4d2

  • @djsac2513
    @djsac2513 Před 20 dny +7

    Ok but that sigma buff was so unnecessary, I personally believe sigma should NEVER be buffed or nerfed

    • @Ace-zm9nf
      @Ace-zm9nf Před 20 dny

      he doesnt profit from the armour buff so i guess blizzard thought they needed to. Still shit changes overall. (except for the dps passiv)

  • @farhatu1542
    @farhatu1542 Před 20 dny +5

    Yeah open queue is just completely dead now

  • @Dragonspuds2
    @Dragonspuds2 Před 20 dny +1

    6:12 another audio error? Oh no

  • @lustfulscholar1199
    @lustfulscholar1199 Před 19 dny

    Thank you cactuspuppy

  • @jumpywizard7665
    @jumpywizard7665 Před 20 dny +5

    This patch is terrible. What the heck is the balance team on 😭😭😭