The Living Flame of Love by St. John of the Cross - Introduction and Prologue: CarmelCast Episode 50
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- Join us over the next 7 weeks as we dive into this spiritual masterpiece of St. John of the Cross and learn how we too can be completely united to God through love.
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As an older Catholic I am learning so much about an aspect our faith that doesn’t get addressed much, our interior life. Thank you so much for these videos.
An amazing quality this podcast has is that it doesn't get involved with the chatter of culture war. Thank you ❤️
Thank you. The analogy of being lost and going to higher ground to SEE better the lay of the land, so you could "find your way home", So excellent! I am a visual thinker so it really resonated! This is going to be so awesome😊. Both of you radiate such holy Joy! Beautiful. God bless you.
Arguably Fr. Kieran Kavanaugh’s best work as per his spiritual daughter, completed right before his passing
Thank you so much brothers for this amazing podcast. Looking forward for the next episode.
Thanks brother. God bless you!
We bring God to the world when we participate in a life of prayer. Experiencing the experience… ✝︎ beautiful. Amen.
Amen, Shelby. Know of our union with you in prayer!
Great introduction. I loved hearing the poem in Spanish.
Thank you Connie. Blessings in your ministry!
Muchas gracias, Brothers, I liked reading the poem in Spanish! Blessings🙏
You both make a great team! Looking forward to this season studying Living Flame of love.
God bless you Cindy!
Thank you for offering these CarmelCast episodes, especially this new Study Edition. I'm looking forward to reading along and learning from your commentary. Pax Christi!
wonderful! Thank you.
Thank you so much, Brothers, for this episode, in particular, and explaining more on the Living Flame poem.
All of your videos are richly informative and helpful. Thank you!
-Gabriella
God bless you Gabriella!
3rd order Carmalite studying the poetry right now.
God bless you in your vocation!
🙏I love Saint John of the Cross, and his writings are wonderful. I am a Third Order Lay Carmelite and I read and re-read, Saint John's "Dark Night of the Soul," which is a wonderful spiritual guide. I am so looking forward to this book study with you. Thank you so much. God bless you and your ministry.❤✝️
Excellent! Your work here continues to fuel and pave the way for my fervor. I am grateful for you and bless your passion to share the depth of your faith and knowledge so we may contemplate and embrace this gift for our own soul’s journey homeward. Blessed be God forever 🙏🏼
Praise God for your zeal! Many blessings!
Union with God is something I have been seeking through Mormonism and I am not sure that religion possesses it in its fullness
Praised be Jesus Christ
Wonderful introduction 🔥🙏🏻❣️
I am so looking forward to this presentation of study. I have been Carmelite for over 10 years, OCDS.
Living Flame of Love in dear to my heart and became part of my devotional name in Carmel.
God reward you both for this endeavor. I pray that collectively, we will all be greatly blessed by your presentation through the wisdom of St. John of the Cross and our Carmelite charism.
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What a grace to have the Living Flame as a part of your devotional name! Thank you for your prayers. God bless you!
Hi, you both have undertaken a great endeavor. Your comment about Juan de la Cruz being considered one of the greatest poets of the Spanish language without any other caveat is spot-on. Also right on are your comments about translation and the evolution of language . The brother who read in Spanish must be from Spain, judging from his accent. It was exquisito listening to his beautiful Castellano. It gave me a case of nostalgia and transported me back over the years. I say that because I have a master's degree in Spanish Literature that I received studying in Spain at the University of Madrid. I don't know of any way to give you audio feedback but the word Doña- pronounced dōn-ya- is a mark of respect but there is also familiarity with it because it is used with the first name of the person being addressed. You mentioned the Royal Spanish Academy and that you weren't exactly certain of its name. In Spanish it's called Real (pronounced ray-a- as in "father" l) Academia Española. Ah-ka-DAY-me-ah...
I'm very very impressed with your work. I first read John of the Cross in a secular University in that context and I will consider it an honor to follow you both with your extensive and profound Carmelite insight. Thank you. I'm going to get the translation. All the ones I have are much much older than the edition you're going to use for your study. Thank you so very much for undertaking this formidable challenge. I'm looking forward to it. Estoy muy agradecida. I'm very grateful. Dios les bendiga. May God bless you (both).
Thank you for your comment! It's so nice to hear about your love for St. John and your knowledge about his writing. You are exactly right; the friar who recited the poem is a proud Castilian!
Please continue watching and providing your feedback and suggestions. God bless you!
@@ICSPublications Yours is one of the nicest comments I've ever received on CZcams. You said you would like me to continue providing feedback so here are a couple of thoughts after listening to the lecture about the first stanza: Do any of the carmelites you know who are experts on Juan de la Cruz know if there is any connection, linguistically or otherwise, in the poem to his special love for the moriscos? He was the missionary to the Arabs of his day and I have always found it fascinating that a special part of the Carmelite vocation is to be a missionary, sometimes especially by carrying your cross without leaving the cloister as was the case for Thérèse de Lisieux. Thinking about the cross and St. John's metaphors, it occurs to me that wood able to bear a man's weight must be solid and strong. Yet, wood is also a vulnerable material susceptible to destruction.... our only antidote to final and irrevocable destruction, death, is Christ's Resurrection and his ultimate Victory, achieved through the ultimate helplessness and consequent vulnerability of crucifixion, both in and outside of time. I was thinking that humans are most vulnerable perhaps when they are most deeply in love. I also was thinking of the two study leaders' emphasis on St. John's lenses of past, future and his own exquisite rendering of his in-the- moment encounter of all-absorbing all-encompassing Union, expressed after-the-fact in the poem and in his attempt to share it in the commentary. I can't wait for the rest of this almost ethereal course. Thank you.
Thank you so very much. I look forward to your presentation.
Thank you Bill. Know of our prayers!
Thank you-perfect supplement to my formation !
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. It’s so helpful!
I first studied Living Flame of Love over 30 years ago as an OCDS. Walked El Camino de Santiago (last third French Way) with my daughter last Autumn and now it's time to bring the spirit of the mountains and St. John's Spain to his writing. Following this study will be interesting to see how "experiencing" the poem differs from "studying" -- that and 30 years of contemplative practice. Thank you for leading this and making it available to those of us at home.
Yes, experiencing the poem! You put it so well. Certainly your experience of Spain and your experience on contemplative prayer will open up new horizons as you revisit the Living Flame this time around. Pray for us and know of our prayers for you!
That's a beautiful image of the spiritual life, getting the view from the height. Thank you..that makes so much sense. God bless you, your podcast is so well done.
Thank you! Know of our prayers for you and your loved ones!
Excellent!
AMEN.
Maybe in St. John's prologue when he speaks of "Transformation in God" and spanish "transformacion en Dios" the English translation would be best to say "transformation within God." Being "within" God is endless within God in "us" and within God.
Ordered the book🙏
Hoy empiezo a leer el,libro. En español y en inglés. Gracias
Please tell me what your intro song is... it's so good
greetings from Oregon! Which monastery were you staying while you were here?
I have found people in their zeal to show they
Know how to pronounce
The name of a foreign
Name or place they say
It so fast one can not
Understand what their
Saying! Like our one brother and someone named "Monique"!!!
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Our brother who did a great job reading the poem.
Did Fr Rodriques Otilio collaborate with Fr Kieran in this translation?
Yes! Fr. Kieran and Fr. Otilio did these translations of John of the Cross before Fr. Otilio's death in 1994. Fr. Kieran completed this study edition of the work before his death in 2019.