Episode 16: w/ Robert Saltzman
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
- Conversation with Robert Saltzman.
Robert Saltzman is the author of the books "The Ten Thousand Things" and "Depending on No-Thing".
Robert has a website: www.dr-robert.com
Robert's substack is: robertsaltzman.substack.com/
About the Host:
Shiv Sengupta is the author of the Advaitaholics Anonymous trilogy (published by New Sarum Press):
Book 1: Sobering Insights for Spiritual Addicts
Book 2: A Manifesto for Spiritual Anarchy
Book 3: An Antidote to Spiritual Enlightenment
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Brilliant discussion, a breath of sanity in an apparently imploding culture.
Love you both.
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GREAT INTERVIEW!!!
Such an important conversation to counter today’s grifter-like spirituality.
Happy Birthday Robert!
Thanks, David. Very kind.
Terence McKenna quote, “culture is not your friend.”
Laurens Buijs is a social scientist specialized in gender studies and in Science & Technology Studies. He was employed by the University of Amsterdam. Buijs mainly specialized in the theme of Diversity & Inclusion.
He was eventually fired for ideas that match what Robert says about gender. Dutch academic culture is currently dominated by fear of speaking up.
Great interview. I do wonder how Robert came to the knowledge that we live in a material world. Perhaps he misspoke around the 10 minute mark, but the ontological nature of matter and consciousness is still a very real philosophical problem taken seriously by professionals who I wouldn't be quick to call "deluded" for positing serious inquiry about it.
❤❤ Hey there! I appreciate your discussion and resonate with the human experience of facing the day. I understand the thoughts and feelings like the fear of death, aging, and skepticism towards spiritual leaders. But here’s a thought - why hold onto the concept of the self (the “Me”) so tightly? Why even discuss establishing oneself as a husband, father, or writer? Yes, these roles emerge, but they don’t need to be so closely attached to the concept of self - it’s more of an illusion than we often realize. I acknowledge that grasping this concept can be incredibly challenging, and the way Tony and Jim persistently discuss it might seem a bit glib, smug, or circular at times. However, an increasing number of people are beginning to grasp the essence of their message. It’s important to note that their “message” isn’t driven by commercial interests, nor is it a false promise to address the impermanence of the self. For whatever it’s worth to you…
Great conversation. The mystic/awaken experience needs to be reclaimed from the claws of "spirituality" and integrated as another basic but key biological experience, in the context of a mature philosophy of life, which for me is the biggest challenge humankind faces, as any major human problem nowadays is due to human stupidy and tribalism, not lack of knowledge or resources as it was the case until very recently.
A truly wonderful, intelligent conversation. I enjoyed every minute of it. And I’m excited about a possible 3-way conversation sometime in the near future. I value my friendships with both of you very deeply. You’ve both challenged me in ways I greatly appreciate. And I love and very highly recommend the books you’ve both written. ❤️🙏😎👍
Look forward to it Joan
I am too.
I'm wondering what these people have to say about psychedelics. Everytime I take a high dose it's very easy to see that we are "god" playing hide and seek large scale with ourselves. But I can't proof that.
❤ I have added a heart symbol, because my keyboard was locked up.
I am writing now to you, a reader. I listened to this. So near the end of the talk Robert talks about a clear mind. Clear mind! Just two words, but one is the adjective of the other, which implies the opposite, can be true too. Be honest, gentle and radical about this for a moment and the idea of clearing or getting clearer might emerge in your mind. Change is possible here in this world. Clarity is a beautiful idea, and, yes and, getting personal is my suggestion, so perhaps using an ancient fellow like Robert Stalzman en-light-ens your mind with simple clarity. I am not stating that he is the clarity, don't make my message crazy like that. I heard clarity coming through him and the fellow he was talking to.
Some really great stuff in this video. Thanks for sharing guys.
Great interview
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Advaitaholics! 😂 I love it.
I love Robert so much, glad you had him on. But seriously - has anyone seen the man blink? Ever? I have never caught his eyes closed even once in many videos. Is it blindness? A condition? a sign of enlightenment ? 😂
A sign of enlightenment. Osho was another person who didn’t blink
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Bosokozu I hear near our mountain home at times in Yamanashi.
17:20 made a lots of sense ❤ reminded me about the book देवताओं का मौन by rajiv mudgal which reaches the same conclusions. Where can I order your book in India.
The craziest thing to me is how seemingly smart and curious people have such a problem with "transexuality" as Robert called it. It's really striking. You seem to be willing to admit "I don't know" about so many things--just not this thing, this thing with which you have no personal experience. You say people are either born male or female, except for a tiny minority. This is true. Sex is a description of body parts. Gender is not. A person can be born without arms and legs, and a man can be born without a penis. A woman can be born with male parts and vice versa. And we don't know what percent this is because we've not been allowed to study the statistics due to taboos. But the science tells us that gender comes from the brain, not the body parts.
You think it's insane that a child of five or six would have the wherewithal to realize "even though I have the parts of a girl I'm a boy." But then you conversely criticize day care workers for avoiding gender-heavy language. In other words, you, like all of society WANT everyone to fit into neat gender boxes which exactly align with the body that you see. You do this while criticizing the concept of society and how it serves this very purpose (to make things easier for the masses by treading on individuals who don't fit the mold).
And please do not label this hate mail. You (Robert) are the one who called Shiv's audience "stupid" in this video. I don't hate you nor do I think you are stupid. I just think you have a tremendous blind spot, as do many, many people when it comes to the subjects of sexuality and gender identity. Nature causes us to categorize people primarily by sex, which we discern from their display of gender. This makes a lot of evolutionary sense, obviously. So I get why people like you who are not affected by "transexuality" at all still seem to have big opinions about it. But It's so disappointing, honestly, to hear this from you, Robert. You say you are a curious person, and you criticize people who say "I know Jesus died on the cross for me" or whatever, but you are doing the same thing--saying you know something that you really don't know.
You're wrong , the data is out there , if a kid switches sex too early, the suicide rate is high for these people. So it's an act of care to stop a young child from making such a decision too early
It’s part of the cultural program now that everyone (from comedians to spiritual teachers to sorts people ) has to have an opinion about this. Though most people have no experience about it and the subject is totally irrelevant to their lives. The right wing have done a job of making this into a thing to rally against. And it’s being picked up by all sorts of people.
@@markkeogh2190 no, the radical left has gone too far, this isn't a right wing issue
I'm not of the right or left either
Both parties are a cult and corrupt
However , the left is stepping over the line big time
it's curious how the gender stuff you discuss came about so strong recently. What's driving it? How is it everywhere, all at once in the West? How has the Left embraced it, along with other ideas so forcefully, so quickly? What the hell happened? There has to be a ton of money behind it all...
Yes, John. There are, in my view, people taking advantage, for their own enrichment, of gender insecure youth.
But it's not just trans. That's the latest example of the intentional destruction of Western civilization by people who just want to queer everything--even what is finer and lovelier than anything queer or straight. I was in academia for a few years, and this deconstruction of values and language goes back to Derrida and his buddies in the 1950s.
Any argument or agenda that begins with the axiom that sex exists on a spectrum and is not binary is absurd biologically along with the proposition that a male can become a female or a female become a male. Some species can achieve that shift, but not humans. Appearance has little to do with being. The present trans credo is a canard that only a terribly stupid person, or a totally innocent one, could believe. Every bit of science speaks against it. Unfortunately, other, brighter people are feigning belief in these absurdities in attempts avoid the consequences of pointing out that the emperor's ass is showing.
I have a dog in this fight on two bases:
First, I am terribly put off by watching people who know better kowtowing to stupidity, however necessary that might be given the acquiescence of academia, and lately, corporate culture to this loyalty-test nonsense. We humans need to be as smart as we can, not enforce stupidity.
Second, I love language and will not have anyone telling me which words I can use and how. By my lights, a woman is simply a mature human female. In her immature phase, she is a girl. This says nothing about what girls or woman can or should think or how they must behave. For that view, I would be "deplatformed" as a TERF. Life. liberty, and the pursuit of happiness was a good idea back then and still is. So don't tell me what fucking pronouns I am forced to use.
@@RobertSaltzmanI totally agree w you
The left has gone too far
I'm wondering if the USA is imploding from within ... perhaps China is involved
Something is very off here
The right wing demonizing a small group has indeed a lot of money behind it.
@@markkeogh2190and left wing is allowing kids to use puberty blockers too early which will create suicide victims later so ya I'd rather be on the right on this issue
his take on trauma struck me as a bit obtuse and superficial. overall it was a wearisome rehash of the usual from him not really worth critiquing in detail but helpful in reinforcing my opinion i guess which is not terribly high so that is a silver lining.
it's a pity, though, there doesnt seem to be anything better out there. i will sit with the void and perhaps some refreshing symptoms will develop elsewhere out of that... no longer searching for satisfaction in any-thing 🙏🐒