Probably not actually anything they meant to do. Subarus are poorly engineered cars, this is probably just a useful engineering failure on the lock side.
"While this is not difficult to pick..." he says after two minutes of fiddling with a specially made lock pick designed to manipulate five pairs of pins. Earlier today I saw a video in which he opened a padlock by tapping it with a hammer.
Time consuming is really all you need on a lock. If you start playing with an actual car’s lock for this long, someone will probably get suspicious. All it needs to do. That and take more time than smashing the window in.
I see your point but I would guess that anyone who wants to pick your car lock, couldn't possibly care whether or not your car key will work after he's done.
I've watched this channel for 8 years, this is the most I've seen you have to work to get a lock open. Like you said it's not technically difficult, that said, few people on the planet are going to have the tool and skills to pull it off. Good job Subaru.
As someone who was also a car locksmith, I learned how to open these in 3 months, and could do it in about a minute in 6 months. Granted, I could never dream of being as skilled as LPL, he has much more experience with every kind of lock, and I only learned how to do cars for a year before I moved on. But yes, it is a well-designed lock
@@5frogfrenzy tbf my old 1994 impreza is still used on a farm by a guy i know, when i sold it to him it had around 370k km, it probably has way more now, and i never did any maintenance on the damn thing
The amount of time this took shows that even the top 1% of skilled lockpicking thieves would probably avoid this, because it just takes too much time, and they could’ve stolen another car (hell, two other cars) in the same time.
I think this is a decent definition of pick resistant. Even if you have a purpose built tool, this lock is slow to open and not nearly as quick as any kinetic attack is
If you consider on top of that that they're the ones designing the rest of the product and they only need to make the lock as good as the weakest point of attack (probably the windows), it is a pretty sensible choice for a lock.
It's pick resistant against a normal pick, yes, however, Lishis are an amazing tool for a locksmith, even a beginner can use them and get quite fast. I know this because when I turned 19 I became a car locksmith, I did it for about a year. When doing car locks all the time, it gets fast and easy
@@guillermorelobalopez7553 by what logic is disabling the lock to the owner (with the key) if it's been fiddled with good design? Are you high? Because if you are, you should share with us.
Ironically most of the subarus from this era also have frameless windows with really thick rubber sealing that makes it easy to just stick a coat hanger through😅
@@qpSubZeroqp that’s the thing. If the Subaru alarm is set then it goes off, even if the key unlocked the car. Plus because of where I park my ring camera often texts me when people look at it and walk by it. The amount of time it took to pick means I’ll have more than enough time to call 911 or run with a baseball bat
Bought a house not too long ago, the house had 3 doors that were locked and no key (mailbox, and balcony), local locksmith told me he was gonna have to bust them open and probably need new doors. got a makeshift lockpick and tension tool, unlock them all in 3 hours, locksmith gave me a discount on the new locks. thank you LPL
I don't get it, if you knew you had the capacity and skills required as well as the tools. Makeshift or not, then didn't you have the ultimate discount of BEING the locksmith, or at the least not calling one in the first place?
@@Jay22222 I had never tried to pick a lock before this, I called a locksmith because i needed to replace every lock and needed him to budget the work (you should always replace all the locks in a new house), and i only tried this cause i didnt want to risk him breaking the doors.
@@Jay22222 To some people having to get and use makeshift tools and spend 3 hours on 3 locks is not cost effective if there is someone who can pick them in 5 minutes and can put in replacement locks & keys at the same time. When it turned out there was none and the cost would be "new locks ... *and new doors* too", i.e. the price for the service went up significantly and the troubles (buying and getting new doors, having busted doors for a few days, ...) attached went up as well, spending a few hours on the task turned out to be preferable to a few hundred $$$ more.
@@vascorodrigues18 Nice work! More people should be like you and willing to just give it a go. An afternoon of playing with a few cylinders, a handful of pins and a few blanks will have you ready to just rekey next time for pennies/door.
I own a Subaru and was a Subaru mechanic, I’m very impressed how secure the door locks are and that has given me even more certainty in the security of my car
With covert entry a lock must be picked open to allow in whoever needs access. Then it must be picked closed to remove any trace of entry. The pick close I would imagine was much more stressful.
I wonder who's the OEM of this actual lock. Given this key design is seen on Subaru, Nissan, and Honda at the least it's some probably Japanese lock company that is the provider to all of them.
I *just* bought a Subaru Impreza, so imagine my shock to see one of their locks show up in an LPL video. I clicked *instantly*. After watching the time it took him and that picking it didn't even fully open the lock, I actually feel great now.
@@ziggydeer4401 yeah, no one picks car door locks. Sadly even when you leave your doors unlocked chances are still high that someone will just smash the window. Although keeping them unlocked may have saved me once, someone did rummage through and took my change. A guy was caught a month or so later stealing change, keys, medication, and smashing windows whenever he saw bags exposed, looking for electronics.
maintenance man [the use of a locksmith is specifically NOT req'd] as you have to replace the whole FUBAR unit with a new one- that's for the maintenance man to keep quite when you do that yourself or when he does that for you without telling the building owner/manager there is a lock picker in the building tampering with the hardware & FUBAR the units
I'm completely lost as to what the A and B sets of wafers are and how this lock works. We need to get LPL some CAD animator talent to show the occasional cross section or cutaway animation.
Instead of all the wafers being spring loaded in one direction, half of them go the other direction out the other side of the lock core. Without a lockpick like this, it is equivalent to having to pick two locks simultaneously. If you look at the key, you'll notice each side the key is cut differently on both sides. Each corner of the key is meant to interface with half of the wafers, and the adjacent corner of the key interfaces with the other half of the wafers.
@@byrddtrader the two sets are left and right. In each set, half of the wafers are spring-loaded to go up, and the other half are spring-loaded to go down. Imagine the key sits vertically between the two rows, and interacts with both.
@@AlexandarHullRichter Yes but what I think he is asking, and myself too is why not just use one pick on the multitool to pick top and bottom wafers instead of two picks?
I’m on my third Impreza -glad to see that the locks are difficult to pick! The joke would be on thief, Imprezas are generally full of protein bar wrappers and stinky running / biking / kayaking gear.
If they're anything like Honda's newer wafer locks, they only take a second (literally) to punch out. The older style just needs a screwdriver and leaves no trace of damage. Yeah, not so happy with my Hondas after learning those the hard way.
Both sets of wafers, on the left and right sides of the key, have their own separate slots in the lock body they engage in when locked. So when you turn the key clockwise, the wafers on the top left side have to pass by the slot on the top right, and the bottom right over the slot on the bottom left. If you've picked the lock, when the core rotates, the left side top wafers drop into the right side top slot, and bottom right into the bottom left slot. That's why you need to pick them again, either to continue rotating it the same way or to rotate it back.
What Keith said is the case for this style lock but also for locks that are meant to "retain" the key (ie you can't remove the key unless the lock is locked) they can also jam up because the mechanism meant to grab the key will fall into the key way since there's no key in place to stop it
I'm sure it's a bastardization of a real quote, but I love: "When you see the master of a trade do something effortlessly, don't be fooled into thinking that it was easy"
This is the first time I've actually appreciated having the Lishi tool used for the picking demo; before this one, LPL using one felt like watching someone play a game with all the cheats turned on. That is, not only is the method trivializing the task, I'm not learning anything from the demonstration. In this case, though, the lock was complex enough that I'm not sure I could have followed what LPL was doing without the Lishi tool providing extra visual feedback on which wafer was being manipulated.
Totally agree. I've gotten more used to visualising locks while watching them being picked over the years (I've only picked a few simple practice locks myself), but the tool on this one certainly makes it clearer. This does just seem like an edge case, though, where the additional tool makes the whole video better
wow! I had an issue with my same Subaru lock but where the pins seized. Thanks to your videos I gained enough courage to take it out, take it apart and clean the lock.
I started watching your videos a while back and started watching videos about picking your standard padlocks and door locks. I bought a set of fairly cheap picks just to see IF I could do it myself and if I even liked doing it before I spent a lot of money on expensive ones. And well, I found that even I as a beginner was able to pick both the door handle and the dead bolt on my front door in anywhere from 30 seconds to 1 min with VERY little effort. Needless to say, it made me change my door locks to something much more substantial pretty damn quick . I wanted to make it as hard as possible for anyone to pick my door lock, even though nothing can make it IMPOSSIBLE. Like my grandpa use to say "locks are only meant to keep the honest people out"
Honestly, after watching you pick this lock, (and having dabbled in lock picking myself), I think I rather would have solved a frustrating calculus problem.
This video goes to show how much influence a person can have if they are extraordinarily good at something, as I'm certainly not the only person who now, after watching it, consider Subaru cars more secure than the average.
@@kaksspl Well it is a tool that was originaly designed for picking card locks. Also whily I agree that an expert picker would not have much trouble achiving this with a regular pick, the tool does make it a bit easier and faster I'm sure you can find some of LPL's older videos where he does a lishi and single pick picking and it is much faster with the lishi.
Shouldn't writing down the wafer positions when picking help with picking it closed? As I understood the Lishi pick, it was designed to not only pick the lock but also decode it for making keys.
To get the wafers to stay in position they need to be bound before setting. The order in which they bind in that partial position won't necessarily be the same order in which they originally bound. So he has to go through the whole picking process anyway, wouldn't save much time knowing the final set positions.
legit when my dad locked his key in his subie, the lock dude pried the window away from the flashing with a wedge and used a coat hanger to unlock the door lmao. one of the downsides of having frameless windows
@@prydzen no, simply because the only real way to secure the window would be to put a lip over the top of the window. While this would allow for the top of the window to be secured. The window would have to be rolled down and then rolled back up any time the door was opened or closed
I'm just imagining someone somewhere has a 2010 Subaru with a stuck door lock from someone trying to pick it and this video just helped solve their problem lol
@@scott215 I’ve seen other locks where the body of the key is required to maintain the position of the pins/wafers/discs relative to one another as they all turn. Without the key holding everything together, one of the pieces drops into a slot somewhere. It’s a pick-evidence technique which can be made reversible or irreversible. LPL said he made one for his own house. That said, it’s all the general theory about most likely why this is happening. The specifics of exactly how it happens in this lock remain completely obscure. To me at least.
@@twestgard2 I saw the one LPL made for his house. That one used normal pins and was irreversible without taking the whole thing apart, IIRC. I'd still like to see how it's made reversible and with wafers.
Another interesting thing about Subarus. I used to cut and program their keys for my job, and if you unlock a door on a Subaru with a physical key the alarm will always go off. Even if the key is programmed to the vehicle the alarm will still go off, though I notice its not 100% of the time, but most of the time. The only way to know that the alarm will not go off when unlocking the vehicle is to use the button on the fob.
My unlock button recently broke on my 09 Impreza, and I figured out a way to bypass the alarm. You have to lock all the doors with the door button while the car is running, then manually unlock the driver's, then turn off the car, open the door, and lock it with the key.
This is what my 99 Skoda did - original alarm with remote was "add-on" to standard central locking system, so they operated independently. I wouldn't expect this behaviour on a modern car.
That happen when you lock the vehicle with remote and unlock it with physical key. When locking with remote, it will arm the alarm; but when unlocking it with physia a a a happenscal key, it will not disarm the alarm (just like it's been picked).
The alarm has three operating modes in my 2012 Legacy. You have the normal arm after lock mode, the disable mode, and an arm after delay mode where the alarm will arm after the key is removed from the ignition and the delay expires regardless of the lock status. A key opening a door or the trunk will trigger the alarm any time it is armed.
Both my moms Jeep and Kia can't be unlocked manually without setting off the alarm. I'm too lazy to care about hitting the button on the fob and still have to unlock it either way so I opt for the key lol. It's just a pain in the ass getting something for her late at night.
I really love your work and have had a great time learning picking for a hobby. I have some severe ADHD that I've been dealing with since I was young and picking is a nice way to keep my hands busy and my head feeling mischievous. Your content is just wonderful!
Looking back, in the mid 90s I thought I knew how to pick locks, but really I was just raking them. That being said, it's really an indictment of how many locks (almost every one I tried!) could be raked with improvised tools made from paperclips!
I imagine most people have no real interest in lock picking. This channel is popular because we all marvel at a pro doing what he loves and does it well.
Wow! Shaking my my head here, I understand what you've doing, just amazed at the speed, that's obviously what comes with practice and more practice, however that has just made me realise that the joy I have found recently with getting my abilities to being quite confident at many padlocks and most recently Eurocylinder type locks I have a long way to go if my skills are going to improve, great to watch you use that tool, gonna point my wife in the direction of your website for Xmas time hahaha!
@@steveo5174 He was though. At the start he says 'if you pick it, it will lodge half way and you won't be able to get a key in unless you pick it shut'. That's what he did therefor successful.
I'm glad I found this video. My dad bought a pre-owned 2007 Toyota Progres and his driver side door does this weird thing where you can't insert the key all the way in, but if you stuck anything that could fit, even a house key, into the lock and turn it slightly, you could open the doors, no problem. It came that way when he purchased it. Very likely this car was broken in to and the perp left the lock the way it was, so the owner sold it without making any mention of this critical flaw. Now that I know what the cause of the problem is, I can show him this video and we can see if it's possible to get his door lock fixed.
EXTRA EXTRA: "Subaru parts counter overwhelmed by customers buying lock cylinders to retrofit into EVERYTHING. WHY? Because LPL dropped a 5 1/2 minute video."
I am now convinced that Subaru car locks are the most secure locks in existence. The fact that it took the LPL several minutes + a special (lishi) tool that makes picking a lot easier shows how pick resistant they are. If they had ball bearings for drill protection and stuff like that I would instantly buy them and replace every door lock with them. It would also be kind of a flex to open your house with a car key
Car locks are tough if you're stealing the car subtlety. You not only have to pick the lock, but you have to disable the alarm quickly. That's why most stolen cars are older or are base models without alarms. Keys are easier to pick on the 90s cars and most didn't have antitheft alarms or immobilizers. Edit: I only say that as someone playing with my own vehicles. Not a car thief or criminal in any way. 🤣
It's why most cars stolen in Australia today are stolen by putting a rock through a house window and taking the car keys from inside the house. Most people leave their car keys on a hook or in a bowl by the front door, or on their bedside table.
@@ChristopherHallett Yep. That seems to be the norm anymore. I keep mine in my computer desk and my wife keeps hers in her purse. If someone wants to break into my house and steal keys with 4 big dogs and two homeowners who can shoot a gun, they are desperate. :P
I'm a locksmith. He did not get it open - this wouldn't unlock the door. I'm sure LPL could do it but no he did not unlock the cylinder in this video. Once it gets to that halfway picked position, it still needs another few wafers to be picked in order to turn. You can see when he uses the key that the cam on the back actually spins a full 90 degrees.
Thought the same thing. Came to the comments looking for an explanation. He didn’t fully pick this one. Just showed it getting stuck and unsticking it. @LPL any way to see the complete unlock?
Thats what my grandma does. Leaves the car door unlocked cause she dont have nothing in there. I dont think thats too smart but i guess it works since they haven't had any broken windows.
Thanks LPL! Somebody tried to pick our 2012 Imprezza and we've been unable to use the key since. When the kids left the dome light on and the battery died, we had to have our friend who owns a tow company unlock the car with a slim jim to be able to recharge the battery.
@@gilbatzri Because it took him forever to pick, even with a purpose-built tool, and it leaves a sign that someone's screwed with it unless they spend even MORE time on it to reset it. If my driver's door is stuck odds are pretty good keyless entry will still open the other three doors or the hatch.
@@evilspoons except the scenario of "picking a car door lock to gain entry/steal the car" is not an actual thing that happens ever. Like there is a 0% chance of someone attempting to pick your car door lock. If someone wants something from the cabin, they will gain entry via a window. It's faster and easier. If they want to steal the car (if it is at all reasonably recent) you need the chipped key to turn on the car, even if you have a matching cut key it won't work, nor will hotwiring the car. So the scenario you are imagining and being "happy with this result" of is nonsensical. In practice all this means is you have to pay someone to unscrew your lock if it is tampered with. Not sure why you think this is a benefit, but whatever works for you. I had a 2012 Subaru Impresa and it was good in an accident, but it was a piece of garbage aside from that, low quality fixtures, bad engineering, the clutch failed catastrophically in the first 3 years, the engine leaked oil from day one, and eventually based on a class action lawsuit they lost the engine was completely replaced. Subaru is a garbage company that didn't stand behind their poorly engineered and manufactured product, and their service staff was actively rude in their handling of a manufacturing defect that everyone in the world knew about. The Mazda we replaced it with is better engineered, drives better, and is an all over superior vehicle to the Subby.
For the 3 years I owned my 08 Impreza it didn’t lock electronically, and a bunch of my stuff got stolen. On top of this the alarm would go off every time I unlocked it with the key. The WEEK I sold it I figured out how to mute the stupid alarm and was so mad. Glad to see that this lock is good even though it had no use to me
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One of the longest pics I've seen recently... Replace your home door locks with a Suburu car door lock.
Or retrofit the whole door into the front of your house.
@oky .... Stop doing this on comments..
@@theyearwas1473 lemme guess, some wierd meditation music
@@theyearwas1473 Reported it as spam and now it has disappeard for me. Can y'all still see okys post just consisting of a yt-link?
@@Makatea yes, it will only be removed for you right away and can take up to a few days (if it happens at all) to be removed from the comment section.
Looks like Subaru put the same complexity into lock picking as they did for replacing a headlight bulb.
Truth! Omg yes!
Turn signal bulb in a 2009 Impreza is a real pain. You need to disassemble and remove the entire air intake and filter assembly to get to it.
@@josugambee3701 I found it easier to go in through the wheel well. Still a pita.
lmao spark plugs too
@@McKnightFace spark plugs are easy in a Subaru I can get them done in 45 mins tops
“Not sure what’s holding us up.”
Now THAT is one hell of an endorsement.
He has said that in many many videos, usually seconds before the lock opens....
It's just a slow internet connection...
Subaru will definitely use that line in their next commercial and teach it to their entire sales division!
Time to buy a Subaru Impreza
@@victorjun2421 aside from being a hard lock to pick on the door, it’s a reasonably nice car
Considering that the early models were the most stolen cars in many insurance surveys, Subaru probably upped their game with that lock
glass window says hi.....
Probably not actually anything they meant to do. Subarus are poorly engineered cars, this is probably just a useful engineering failure on the lock side.
Ah yes, the very useful "someone tried to steal my car, so now i can't get in" security feature.
@@paskky913 What's to stop them from breaking the window after the door jams?
@@paskky913 It's still a flaw.
I'll just smash the window with a Master lock. It can probably be used for THAT effectively at least.
*shatters*
@@mortiphago The lock, not the window, I assume...
unfortunately for master lock even then spring loaded center punches are a thing and often bought for cheaper then a master lock
@@OctoberNight-rr7ny
And much more effectively!😂👍
#Mastersux
A system is only as secure as its weakest link
Him: picks lock for over a minute long
Us: it finally happened a multi minute lock
@oky seriously stop reporting my replies I don't want your unsolicited crap on my posts
Not "us"
@@theyearwas1473 Bots can't read, so your reply does absolutely nothing at all. Just report it and move on.
There have been several multi-minute locks, it might have made sense (clarifying edit:) [for me] to link to a good one, but that is now in poor taste.
@@theyearwas1473 lol he’s reporting you for replying
"While this is not difficult to pick..." he says after two minutes of fiddling with a specially made lock pick designed to manipulate five pairs of pins. Earlier today I saw a video in which he opened a padlock by tapping it with a hammer.
It's not difficult to pick, as he said, just time consuming. Like how walking a mile isn't difficult, but it will take upwards of 15 minutes.
Or a hour if your slow
Time consuming is really all you need on a lock. If you start playing with an actual car’s lock for this long, someone will probably get suspicious. All it needs to do. That and take more time than smashing the window in.
longest pick in LPL history!! :) i just broke the glass in the meantime to get into the car to steal the laptop
what the hell are you doing watching the lockpickinglawyer?
@@taterhater7419 learning how to not have to break the window when stealing vehicles. what else?
Automatic centerpunch?
A new window would probably cost less than your local locksmith that still wouldn't have the skill to open the lock like lpl does.
@@neonnerd1364 the one time I had to call a locksmith, he spent 45 minutes trying to pick a cheap door knob from Lowes. He had to drilll it out. 😞
I really miss lock gutting videos and this lock seems like a really good candidate for one. I would love more insight on this one
I second that. Not for usual cylinders, but for the more eccentric ones like this.
Thirded. The A/B wafers are also new to me.
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Yes, what's inside this lock that causes this, as well as the As & Bs.
So what you're saying is...
Every lock maker should be going to 2010 Subaru to copy their locking mechanism
@oky why do you spam that everywhere?
@@zazza002 report it
I see your point but I would guess that anyone who wants to pick your car lock, couldn't possibly care whether or not your car key will work after he's done.
@@yazmat96 on it
@@yazmat96 did it
I've watched this channel for 8 years, this is the most I've seen you have to work to get a lock open. Like you said it's not technically difficult, that said, few people on the planet are going to have the tool and skills to pull it off. Good job Subaru.
He didn’t ever actually pick it open.
So it’s "not difficult" for someone skilled as him, but takes a hell a lot of time, and tamper evident. Thumbs up to Subaru.
As someone who was also a car locksmith, I learned how to open these in 3 months, and could do it in about a minute in 6 months. Granted, I could never dream of being as skilled as LPL, he has much more experience with every kind of lock, and I only learned how to do cars for a year before I moved on. But yes, it is a well-designed lock
Now if only they could make their engines last past 150kmi without blowing a head gasket.
I keep seeing these comments, and I'm trying to figure out in what universe "a hell a lot of time" [sic] is less than four minutes.
@@Llohr I guess the car theft universe.
@@5frogfrenzy tbf my old 1994 impreza is still used on a farm by a guy i know, when i sold it to him it had around 370k km, it probably has way more now, and i never did any maintenance on the damn thing
I was hoping for a “and we’ve got this closed” after the second pick 😀
Yeah me too.
"Just to show it's not a fluke, I'll try it again for another 5 min video..." 😂🤣
The amount of time this took shows that even the top 1% of skilled lockpicking thieves would probably avoid this, because it just takes too much time, and they could’ve stolen another car (hell, two other cars) in the same time.
@@AlcoholicBoredom If Gone In Sixty Seconds taught me anything, the thief could steal 5.5 cars in this amount of time.
@@googiegress7459 It only taught me (in retrospect) that Nick Cage was mainstream once.
If Subaru starts making padlocks or door locks, I'm definitely getting some.
Subaru's parent company is Fuji Heavy Industries. It's possible they already have a subsidiary that make locks, have a look.
Just don't buy their cars they are rubbish, kind of like their locks appear to be.
@@gilbatzri *Cries in subaru svx....*
@@Q0RRUPTM3D1A lol, your dime mate.
They probably contract it out to a company that specializes in making locks.
This is probably the best pick if you're trying to show us what is actually happening with the pins.
With that profile picture, I know exactly how you got here
Not too difficult, if you know what you're doing... Pretty much something I think every time I try something new and mess it up...
I'm sure dr.o could figure it out
Yea same with Nuclear Fusion and Time Travel
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@oky By this point this spam is hate speech. get lost Reported.....again....
I think this is a decent definition of pick resistant. Even if you have a purpose built tool, this lock is slow to open and not nearly as quick as any kinetic attack is
If you consider on top of that that they're the ones designing the rest of the product and they only need to make the lock as good as the weakest point of attack (probably the windows), it is a pretty sensible choice for a lock.
It's pick resistant against a normal pick, yes, however, Lishis are an amazing tool for a locksmith, even a beginner can use them and get quite fast. I know this because when I turned 19 I became a car locksmith, I did it for about a year. When doing car locks all the time, it gets fast and easy
@@guillermorelobalopez7553 by what logic is disabling the lock to the owner (with the key) if it's been fiddled with good design?
Are you high? Because if you are, you should share with us.
@@gilbatzri Where did I say it was? The only point I made is the lock needs be only good enough to not be the weakest point of attack.
@@gilbatzri more than 1 door available, and evidence of tampering so the owner can notify authorities without destroying evidence
A lock that manages to throw off LPL deserves to be feared.
Ironically most of the subarus from this era also have frameless windows with really thick rubber sealing that makes it easy to just stick a coat hanger through😅
This makes me more confident in my own old Subaru
Don't forget about people breaking windows or even having their own tow trucks to steal either stuff you have inside or the car itself
@@qpSubZeroqp that’s the thing. If the Subaru alarm is set then it goes off, even if the key unlocked the car. Plus because of where I park my ring camera often texts me when people look at it and walk by it. The amount of time it took to pick means I’ll have more than enough time to call 911 or run with a baseball bat
And the window?
@@smol_yote Old subaru's are easy. dont even need to break into car. Just jump on/kick certain parts or use half a tennis ball.
@@Mr_jz_12 ehh. Fair enough. Plus it’s an old Baja. Who would want to steal it?
Bought a house not too long ago, the house had 3 doors that were locked and no key (mailbox, and balcony), local locksmith told me he was gonna have to bust them open and probably need new doors. got a makeshift lockpick and tension tool, unlock them all in 3 hours, locksmith gave me a discount on the new locks. thank you LPL
I don't get it, if you knew you had the capacity and skills required as well as the tools. Makeshift or not, then didn't you have the ultimate discount of BEING the locksmith, or at the least not calling one in the first place?
@@Jay22222 I had never tried to pick a lock before this, I called a locksmith because i needed to replace every lock and needed him to budget the work (you should always replace all the locks in a new house), and i only tried this cause i didnt want to risk him breaking the doors.
@@Jay22222 that's the thing, he *didn't* have the skills and STILL managed to do it better than the locksmith
@@Jay22222 To some people having to get and use makeshift tools and spend 3 hours on 3 locks is not cost effective if there is someone who can pick them in 5 minutes and can put in replacement locks & keys at the same time. When it turned out there was none and the cost would be "new locks ... *and new doors* too", i.e. the price for the service went up significantly and the troubles (buying and getting new doors, having busted doors for a few days, ...) attached went up as well, spending a few hours on the task turned out to be preferable to a few hundred $$$ more.
@@vascorodrigues18 Nice work! More people should be like you and willing to just give it a go.
An afternoon of playing with a few cylinders, a handful of pins and a few blanks will have you ready to just rekey next time for pennies/door.
The goblins: "No one has ever broken into Gringotts".
LockPickingLawyer: "I've opened this standard Gringotts vault with an owl and a red bull can."
Hahaha the owl took me out
And he's selling the owl and rebull on his website 🤣
@@ferdinanddegraaf3572😂😂😂😂
I own a Subaru and was a Subaru mechanic, I’m very impressed how secure the door locks are and that has given me even more certainty in the security of my car
This is so cool to see considering how much people rely on those locks
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The window is always breakable
this mad lad doesnt only pick locks open but also picks them close, like wtf
Sometimes you cant get it to pick open so you pick it closed.
Then you use a lock spinner to turn it open.
Didn’t pick it open! Did you watch the video.
@@VETERANMASTER ever watched His other videos were he did?
With covert entry a lock must be picked open to allow in whoever needs access. Then it must be picked closed to remove any trace of entry. The pick close I would imagine was much more stressful.
@@mbak7801 No need to pick it closed once its open.
Imagine being in Fort Knox and just hearing. “Nothing on 1. 2 is binding. 3 is loose. And we’re in”
Lol more like ".....-and 47a is binding, little click, big click on 52a, sounds like we had some fall...yup, 32b is binding-..."
Man said “not sure what’s holding us up” this lock must be god tier
WOW! Subaru sure knows that they are doing when it comes to locks.
LPL didn't fully open this one and took him quite some time.
any other Japanese or Korean locks that are more difficult than western ones ?
I’m sure there are they make there stuff better than American made crap
I think it would be ways faster if LpL used normal tools instead of the lishi ones.
I'm guessing you have to re-pick the A wafers to fully open it, same as he did to fully close it.
I wonder who's the OEM of this actual lock. Given this key design is seen on Subaru, Nissan, and Honda at the least it's some probably Japanese lock company that is the provider to all of them.
I *just* bought a Subaru Impreza, so imagine my shock to see one of their locks show up in an LPL video. I clicked *instantly*.
After watching the time it took him and that picking it didn't even fully open the lock, I actually feel great now.
That half-turn he got out of it would probably be enough to unlock the car. Try it with your key.
That just means they're gonna bash your window in lol
Same! Its kind of freaky
@@ziggydeer4401 yeah, no one picks car door locks.
Sadly even when you leave your doors unlocked chances are still high that someone will just smash the window.
Although keeping them unlocked may have saved me once, someone did rummage through and took my change. A guy was caught a month or so later stealing change, keys, medication, and smashing windows whenever he saw bags exposed, looking for electronics.
Judging from the replies of your comment
*Replace your glass window with a ballistic window* It might be expensive but no window is getting smashed
I do love the suggestion of slipping a locksmith some money.
maintenance man [the use of a locksmith is specifically NOT req'd] as you have to replace the whole FUBAR unit with a new one- that's for the maintenance man to keep quite when you do that yourself or when he does that for you without telling the building owner/manager there is a lock picker in the building tampering with the hardware & FUBAR the units
I’m impressed with Subaru for making a lock capable of going past 1 minute with the lockpickinglawyer
I'm completely lost as to what the A and B sets of wafers are and how this lock works. We need to get LPL some CAD animator talent to show the occasional cross section or cutaway animation.
bottom and top wafers
Instead of all the wafers being spring loaded in one direction, half of them go the other direction out the other side of the lock core. Without a lockpick like this, it is equivalent to having to pick two locks simultaneously.
If you look at the key, you'll notice each side the key is cut differently on both sides. Each corner of the key is meant to interface with half of the wafers, and the adjacent corner of the key interfaces with the other half of the wafers.
I dont quite follow why you need two separate picks for the top and bottom set
@@byrddtrader the two sets are left and right. In each set, half of the wafers are spring-loaded to go up, and the other half are spring-loaded to go down.
Imagine the key sits vertically between the two rows, and interacts with both.
@@AlexandarHullRichter Yes but what I think he is asking, and myself too is why not just use one pick on the multitool to pick top and bottom wafers instead of two picks?
"Ok folks it's not too difficult..." (looks extremely difficult)
I’m on my third Impreza -glad to see that the locks are difficult to pick! The joke would be on thief, Imprezas are generally full of protein bar wrappers and stinky running / biking / kayaking gear.
If they're anything like Honda's newer wafer locks, they only take a second (literally) to punch out.
The older style just needs a screwdriver and leaves no trace of damage.
Yeah, not so happy with my Hondas after learning those the hard way.
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Nothing but granola bar wrappers, Stinky climbing and running gear, and motor oil in this Subie. I feel called out. Its too true!
_Insert horrible, stereotypical lesbian joke here_
I'm happy to see that LPL has a memory card big enough to fit a 5 min video onto !
Subaru : *"I'm not even mad, I'm just impreza"*
Looks like -Bunta and Takumi- Initial D fans gotta keep their car in a more safer place from now on xD
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What’s the actual mechanism that freezes it half way? Would have loved to see it possibly gutted.
Most likely just a slot in the cylinder to allow the waffers to spring into. Since it is only half the waffers, there is not one on the opposite side.
Both sets of wafers, on the left and right sides of the key, have their own separate slots in the lock body they engage in when locked. So when you turn the key clockwise, the wafers on the top left side have to pass by the slot on the top right, and the bottom right over the slot on the bottom left. If you've picked the lock, when the core rotates, the left side top wafers drop into the right side top slot, and bottom right into the bottom left slot. That's why you need to pick them again, either to continue rotating it the same way or to rotate it back.
What Keith said is the case for this style lock but also for locks that are meant to "retain" the key (ie you can't remove the key unless the lock is locked) they can also jam up because the mechanism meant to grab the key will fall into the key way since there's no key in place to stop it
A 5+ minute LPL video?! This must be the most secure door lock ever!
Nice lesson on one of the reasons why you shouldn't practice on locks in use. Thanks for making this one!
0:08 A master has failed more times than an apprentice has tried
because he's spent more time on it. not rocket science
One of my favorite proverbs/quotes!
I'm sure it's a bastardization of a real quote, but I love: "When you see the master of a trade do something effortlessly, don't be fooled into thinking that it was easy"
@@Hyperlink1337 Thats...the point...
This is the first time I've actually appreciated having the Lishi tool used for the picking demo; before this one, LPL using one felt like watching someone play a game with all the cheats turned on. That is, not only is the method trivializing the task, I'm not learning anything from the demonstration. In this case, though, the lock was complex enough that I'm not sure I could have followed what LPL was doing without the Lishi tool providing extra visual feedback on which wafer was being manipulated.
Good point. This is one time that both the Lishi tool and the lock were better explained by the pairing of tool to workpiece.
Totally agree. I've gotten more used to visualising locks while watching them being picked over the years (I've only picked a few simple practice locks myself), but the tool on this one certainly makes it clearer. This does just seem like an edge case, though, where the additional tool makes the whole video better
wow! I had an issue with my same Subaru lock but where the pins seized. Thanks to your videos I gained enough courage to take it out, take it apart and clean the lock.
I think this is the longest the LPL took as far as I have watched. Well done Subaru!
Wow that lock really put up a fight. That's a rare thing.
Finally! Been a long time since we heard the "not sure what's holding us up..." Nice to hear he is human after all!
You are not only a master at your craft, you are a magician!
I started watching your videos a while back and started watching videos about picking your standard padlocks and door locks. I bought a set of fairly cheap picks just to see IF I could do it myself and if I even liked doing it before I spent a lot of money on expensive ones. And well, I found that even I as a beginner was able to pick both the door handle and the dead bolt on my front door in anywhere from 30 seconds to 1 min with VERY little effort. Needless to say, it made me change my door locks to something much more substantial pretty damn quick . I wanted to make it as hard as possible for anyone to pick my door lock, even though nothing can make it IMPOSSIBLE. Like my grandpa use to say "locks are only meant to keep the honest people out"
Honestly, after watching you pick this lock, (and having dabbled in lock picking myself), I think I rather would have solved a frustrating calculus problem.
CZcams should add option to sort videos by "longest to shortest" - then we would get compilation of best locks possible on LPL :P
I think the five to eight minute breakdown videos might skew the ratings, but yeah.
This video goes to show how much influence a person can have if they are extraordinarily good at something, as I'm certainly not the only person who now, after watching it, consider Subaru cars more secure than the average.
nah, just peace of sparkplug ceramic tossed on the window and you are in, but sure lock it self is stronger.
No one picks car locks, that is a ridiculous statement.
Same lock on Gen 3 Outback. . .. Moral of story: DON'T lose your key.
Yeah, unless you specifically know how to get it open.
Mainly because they are several hundred dollars from Subaru to replace from what I recollect. (former 2012 impreza owner)
the company that puts car locks in padlocks wins the whole market look how long it took LPL to do this
Padlocks might be too small to fit this mechanism in.
and that's with an especially designed tool!
@@shmalevolokno That's not a specialised tool for picking locks. That's a normal tool specialised to be more visual for beginners and for videos.
@@kaksspl Well it is a tool that was originaly designed for picking card locks. Also whily I agree that an expert picker would not have much trouble achiving this with a regular pick, the tool does make it a bit easier and faster I'm sure you can find some of LPL's older videos where he does a lishi and single pick picking and it is much faster with the lishi.
@@kaksspl I'm saying thats not just a turning tool and a pick
A Wafer lock took that long.....we need more of those locks
Amazing Lock. This is the longest video you have done in a while. Impressive.
This is awe-inspiring. An absolute talent.
Shouldn't writing down the wafer positions when picking help with picking it closed? As I understood the Lishi pick, it was designed to not only pick the lock but also decode it for making keys.
To get the wafers to stay in position they need to be bound before setting. The order in which they bind in that partial position won't necessarily be the same order in which they originally bound. So he has to go through the whole picking process anyway, wouldn't save much time knowing the final set positions.
@@ussenterncc1701e Thanks for clarifying.
The great irony of this is that this is one of the hardest locks to pick, yet also the most likely to be bypassed entirely by any nefarious actors.
legit when my dad locked his key in his subie, the lock dude pried the window away from the flashing with a wedge and used a coat hanger to unlock the door lmao. one of the downsides of having frameless windows
@@johnmichaell2505 Teslas are the same!
@@johnmichaell2505 could that not be simply fixed by installed a flashing inside the door and better window framing though?
@@prydzen no, simply because the only real way to secure the window would be to put a lip over the top of the window. While this would allow for the top of the window to be secured. The window would have to be rolled down and then rolled back up any time the door was opened or closed
It's easy to open a locked car door by sliding a metal coat hanger down the outside of the window and pulling up the latch.
i have this exact year impreza, definitely a proud moment
I'm just imagining someone somewhere has a 2010 Subaru with a stuck door lock from someone trying to pick it and this video just helped solve their problem lol
LPL: Takes longer than a minute to open a lock
Subaru: S T O N K S
I’m having trouble getting a mental image of the internals of this lock. Any chance it can be gutted for us to see?
I second that. How does the lock know it was picked and not to open all the way, and why don't other locks do that?
@@scott215 I’ve seen other locks where the body of the key is required to maintain the position of the pins/wafers/discs relative to one another as they all turn. Without the key holding everything together, one of the pieces drops into a slot somewhere. It’s a pick-evidence technique which can be made reversible or irreversible. LPL said he made one for his own house.
That said, it’s all the general theory about most likely why this is happening. The specifics of exactly how it happens in this lock remain completely obscure. To me at least.
@@twestgard2 I saw the one LPL made for his house. That one used normal pins and was irreversible without taking the whole thing apart, IIRC. I'd still like to see how it's made reversible and with wafers.
@@scott215 Probably just a slot on one side to allow those wafers to engage.
the pins just fall, and key cant press them back like a normal lock i assume so... it jams? About all I can think of, But I would love to see!
Never picked a little lock, never tried to & not likely to but I find these vids so interesting. Keep um coming they're great
Another interesting thing about Subarus. I used to cut and program their keys for my job, and if you unlock a door on a Subaru with a physical key the alarm will always go off. Even if the key is programmed to the vehicle the alarm will still go off, though I notice its not 100% of the time, but most of the time. The only way to know that the alarm will not go off when unlocking the vehicle is to use the button on the fob.
My unlock button recently broke on my 09 Impreza, and I figured out a way to bypass the alarm. You have to lock all the doors with the door button while the car is running, then manually unlock the driver's, then turn off the car, open the door, and lock it with the key.
This is what my 99 Skoda did - original alarm with remote was "add-on" to standard central locking system, so they operated independently. I wouldn't expect this behaviour on a modern car.
That happen when you lock the vehicle with remote and unlock it with physical key. When locking with remote, it will arm the alarm; but when unlocking it with physia a a a happenscal key, it will not disarm the alarm (just like it's been picked).
The alarm has three operating modes in my 2012 Legacy. You have the normal arm after lock mode, the disable mode, and an arm after delay mode where the alarm will arm after the key is removed from the ignition and the delay expires regardless of the lock status. A key opening a door or the trunk will trigger the alarm any time it is armed.
Both my moms Jeep and Kia can't be unlocked manually without setting off the alarm. I'm too lazy to care about hitting the button on the fob and still have to unlock it either way so I opt for the key lol. It's just a pain in the ass getting something for her late at night.
LPL: Finally! A worthy and non-inexcusable opponent! Our battle will be legendary.
I’ve been watching videos on the Impreza for weeks now, this is a sign I should get one I just know it
My second one blew up within 3 days. Currently got no engine in and can't lock it 😂
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Discovered the channel today and subscribed,love it
I've no idea what I just witnessed but glad you got it sorted out!
I really love your work and have had a great time learning picking for a hobby. I have some severe ADHD that I've been dealing with since I was young and picking is a nice way to keep my hands busy and my head feeling mischievous. Your content is just wonderful!
Looking back, in the mid 90s I thought I knew how to pick locks, but really I was just raking them. That being said, it's really an indictment of how many locks (almost every one I tried!) could be raked with improvised tools made from paperclips!
I imagine most people have no real interest in lock picking. This channel is popular because we all marvel at a pro doing what he loves and does it well.
Wow! Shaking my my head here,
I understand what you've doing, just amazed at the speed, that's obviously what comes with practice and more practice, however that has just made me realise that the joy I have found recently with getting my abilities to being quite confident at many padlocks and most recently Eurocylinder type locks I have a long way to go if my skills are going to improve, great to watch you use that tool, gonna point my wife in the direction of your website for Xmas time hahaha!
It must be a tough lock if it takes the LPL more than two min lol!
we think it takes him 2 min but we dont see the preparation and research he does before!
he never did actually pick it.
@@edimitris sometimes he’ll get locks sent to him and open the package on camera without seeing inside previously
He wasn't successful either.
@@steveo5174 He was though. At the start he says 'if you pick it, it will lodge half way and you won't be able to get a key in unless you pick it shut'. That's what he did therefor successful.
Good lock, but the biggest theft deterrent for a Subaru Impreza is that it's a Subaru Impreza.
I'm glad I found this video. My dad bought a pre-owned 2007 Toyota Progres and his driver side door does this weird thing where you can't insert the key all the way in, but if you stuck anything that could fit, even a house key, into the lock and turn it slightly, you could open the doors, no problem. It came that way when he purchased it. Very likely this car was broken in to and the perp left the lock the way it was, so the owner sold it without making any mention of this critical flaw. Now that I know what the cause of the problem is, I can show him this video and we can see if it's possible to get his door lock fixed.
This is the best lock I have seen on you pick.
You should make a video on damaging a lock with picking, as well as inspecting a lock for signs of picking
EXTRA EXTRA: "Subaru parts counter overwhelmed by customers buying lock cylinders to retrofit into EVERYTHING. WHY? Because LPL dropped a 5 1/2 minute video."
Good luck getting past the Neanderthal at the desk requiring a VIN for everything
@@zoomzabba452 Locks are theft relevant parts. It will require much more then a VIN number.
it wasn't a 5 1/2 minute lpl video
it was a 5 1/2 minute lpl video that he never opened the lock in
As always, Lockpicking Lawyer dropping my jaw and Subaru making the best stuff out there.
I am now convinced that Subaru car locks are the most secure locks in existence. The fact that it took the LPL several minutes + a special (lishi) tool that makes picking a lot easier shows how pick resistant they are. If they had ball bearings for drill protection and stuff like that I would instantly buy them and replace every door lock with them.
It would also be kind of a flex to open your house with a car key
Car locks are tough if you're stealing the car subtlety. You not only have to pick the lock, but you have to disable the alarm quickly. That's why most stolen cars are older or are base models without alarms. Keys are easier to pick on the 90s cars and most didn't have antitheft alarms or immobilizers.
Edit: I only say that as someone playing with my own vehicles. Not a car thief or criminal in any way. 🤣
It's why most cars stolen in Australia today are stolen by putting a rock through a house window and taking the car keys from inside the house. Most people leave their car keys on a hook or in a bowl by the front door, or on their bedside table.
@@ChristopherHallett Yep. That seems to be the norm anymore. I keep mine in my computer desk and my wife keeps hers in her purse. If someone wants to break into my house and steal keys with 4 big dogs and two homeowners who can shoot a gun, they are desperate. :P
Always impressed by your sense of touch and hearing.
Happy to be both an LPL subscriber AND huge Subaru fan here.
I didn't understand any part of this but it's midnight and I was captivated.
HEY, How are we supposed to know this wasn't a fluke DAMMIT
He never got it properly open
Damn! That's a impressive lock.
This lock seemed to give this guy the hardest time. Considering how easy it is for him to pick locks it makes me want this for all my locks.
I love my Subaru for thousands of reasons but to see this on top of that, man I love Subaru.
Wait so he never got it open. Should I be worried that I’m in a branch of the multiverse that’s no longer on the main timeline?
He got it open; it just doesn't move very far. You can see he moved it the same amount that they key moves it (5:03).
I'm a locksmith. He did not get it open - this wouldn't unlock the door. I'm sure LPL could do it but no he did not unlock the cylinder in this video. Once it gets to that halfway picked position, it still needs another few wafers to be picked in order to turn. You can see when he uses the key that the cam on the back actually spins a full 90 degrees.
@@vagrant2592 he got it open
@@kakswell wrong.
Thought the same thing. Came to the comments looking for an explanation. He didn’t fully pick this one. Just showed it getting stuck and unsticking it. @LPL any way to see the complete unlock?
As a Subie owner, I think I'd rather my car just be easier to pick so a potential thief doesn't just break the windows.
I’ve had this happen twice, I’d prefer the lock being picked instead of glass everywhere and cleaning that up and replacing the glass….
Ill tell you they should all have alarms if the door is unlocked with a "key" and the rest of the car is armed too. Once locked.
I think approximately 0.00% of car thieves pick locks.
my windows get broken even when i leave the door unlocked 🙄
Thats what my grandma does. Leaves the car door unlocked cause she dont have nothing in there. I dont think thats too smart but i guess it works since they haven't had any broken windows.
I am quite impressed by this Impreza lock.
i love his calm voice while picking locks
Is the lock the trap or the Subaru's head gasket?
Lmaoooooooo 😂
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"...more time consuming..." .... 😱😱😱😱😱😱😱😱 ... never seen him take this much time.
Thanks LPL! Somebody tried to pick our 2012 Imprezza and we've been unable to use the key since. When the kids left the dome light on and the battery died, we had to have our friend who owns a tow company unlock the car with a slim jim to be able to recharge the battery.
So 2010 Subaru Impreza locks are the best... Got it! Thanks!
I'd be curious to see the gutted version or more details on why it locks up when you pick it.
Well, as someone who drives a Subaru with this exact mechanism, I can say I'm pretty happy with this result 😁
Why? If someone messes with your door lock you can't open the door any longer, why would that make you happy?
@@gilbatzri Because it took him forever to pick, even with a purpose-built tool, and it leaves a sign that someone's screwed with it unless they spend even MORE time on it to reset it. If my driver's door is stuck odds are pretty good keyless entry will still open the other three doors or the hatch.
@@evilspoons except the scenario of "picking a car door lock to gain entry/steal the car" is not an actual thing that happens ever. Like there is a 0% chance of someone attempting to pick your car door lock.
If someone wants something from the cabin, they will gain entry via a window. It's faster and easier.
If they want to steal the car (if it is at all reasonably recent) you need the chipped key to turn on the car, even if you have a matching cut key it won't work, nor will hotwiring the car.
So the scenario you are imagining and being "happy with this result" of is nonsensical.
In practice all this means is you have to pay someone to unscrew your lock if it is tampered with. Not sure why you think this is a benefit, but whatever works for you.
I had a 2012 Subaru Impresa and it was good in an accident, but it was a piece of garbage aside from that, low quality fixtures, bad engineering, the clutch failed catastrophically in the first 3 years, the engine leaked oil from day one, and eventually based on a class action lawsuit they lost the engine was completely replaced.
Subaru is a garbage company that didn't stand behind their poorly engineered and manufactured product, and their service staff was actively rude in their handling of a manufacturing defect that everyone in the world knew about.
The Mazda we replaced it with is better engineered, drives better, and is an all over superior vehicle to the Subby.
Good job Subaru! Pretty tough lock you have there.
For the 3 years I owned my 08 Impreza it didn’t lock electronically, and a bunch of my stuff got stolen. On top of this the alarm would go off every time I unlocked it with the key. The WEEK I sold it I figured out how to mute the stupid alarm and was so mad. Glad to see that this lock is good even though it had no use to me