Behringer Flow 8 | Firmware Updates for 2021 - Exclusive First Look
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- čas přidán 14. 02. 2021
- #208 - We've got the fresh Behringer Flow 8 Bluetooth controlled digital audio mixer in for a 2021 firmware update roundup this week. This one is an eight channel mixer and interface that is controlled almost entirely by it's accompanying FLOW APP. There have been some critical firmware updates already since it was released only a few months ago. A new approach to desktop mixers for sure, and powered by micro-USB, a great option for mobile users on the go. Podcasts, vlogs or performers on the go, this one is packed full of features to get the job done.
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Does anyone know what foot switch to use with this mixer ?,I can't find info on it anywhere
Great question. I just tested it and the way it seems to work is it is a TRS jack, and you want a button that is 'normally open'. You can wire it to short pin one to pin 2, which will mute the effects. Or you can wire a button to short pins 1 & 3 which gives you the tap tempo. Obviously you could wire a double switch or pedal to do both. You'd want non-latching switches, as the mute latches itself after a short hold just like the button on the mixer does. Hope that helps Simon! This should work if you're not into building one - amzn.to/2ZHGRbt
I just put together a quick blog post for anyone curious about the footswitch specs and functionality for the Flow 8 - www.dcsoundop.com/flow-8-footswitch/
Wow this is incredibly detailed explaining the new features! Those new routing featured make that little console even more powerful!
Thanks Lydon, they've certainly added more than I was expecting so quickly on this one.
Firmware V11748 has been released...waiting for your next video explaining the latest one, you are just the best to explain this mixer, thank you!
Thanks for the kind words Selumiel, 11748 was a pretty small incremental improvement and bug fix type update, so that's why we haven't looked at it here on the channel. Check back for future updates though, we'll absolutely cover it again here shortly.
Great video. I work a solo act, keys, vocals. Every company always makes the mistake of not putting a high pass filter or a way to drop the low end on the effect. Especially hall settings. you have to have the option to drop the low end on the reverb or you will sound like you are in a gymnasium. If you are a vocalist with a voice in the lower range, you have to have that option.
thanks for this review
This is the video that makes me to buy the Flow 8 to use instead my Rodecaster Pro. This one add USB routing, HI-Z connectors, line level inputs, monitor outputs and decent noise free headset output. The phone input for phone calls the Rode has are easy to implement thanks to the monitor output were you can generate a mix-minus for the caller.
Please share this video with your communities. Your shares, likes & comments really help the channel grow. Thanks!
This has made my life easier.. I wanted the monitor link, so I could use monitor sends for stereo sampling.
The additional USB audio routing means I may have a rethink of how my stuff is setup, Its great news though, thanks for clear overview.
Glad I could help! Thanks for the message Andrew.
@@DcSoundOp it looks like Behringers just skipped a version on release too!
I updated the firmware to v.11739 today, app version was 1.2 and it didn't work :(
then 2 hours later version 1.3 dropped :) and it doesn't crash anymore when touching the Main Mix button. I'm happy
I wish they'd implement 44.1kHz switch as some older projects require that. also a USB interface for computer would nice.
And a stereo link for Input CH 3 & 4 would be great...
It would be really good if they could make a Mac and Windows app for it the same as phone or tablet for when I don't want to have one of my devices on the unit.
That's not a bad idea at all, I'll pass it along. Thanks for the message!
@@DcSoundOp Some time ago i made a request for an OSX app on the Music Tribe forum. Never got a reply :-(
Great and helpful videos about the Flow8!
I love this little mixer but I'm really missing the possibility to pan a track in a live situation without using a phone. It is much better to have a knob for panning. For example, the Select/Adjust knob has no function in Main mode - so why not using this one for panning (and even muting when pressed) the track which was touched last?
This would help a lot on stage to make a fast change.
Another thing is to give the user some more possibilities for editing the effects in the app like pre-dalay for example. Especially the channel compressors need to have some editing possibilities.
But don't get me wrong - even if some things could be optimized this little beast is already a really great machine!
Thanks Felix, I'll pass your suggestions along to the right people. I appreciate the message!
@@DcSoundOp Just an additional thinking. It could also help if the compressors could be switched to be a limiter - to have a choice between these two possibilities in the channels.
Hi, from my point of view, it would be very good if it is possible to use the stereo inputs 5/6 7/8 also as independent mono inputs in parallel - from my point of view this would make the flow 8 to a real 10/2 mixer and would be very helpful in small band setups like 3xVocals, 2x Guitar, 1x bass, 1x bass drum, 1xOH
I saw a post similar to this on the Facebook group recently, were you a part of that? Not sure what the plans are for the future of the stereo channels, but thanks for the message! In recording mode, it's 10x4 now too, which is pretty nice. Have a great weekend.
Hope they implement a low cut on monitor out.
Thanks Dee, I'll pass along the message.
Great video. The one feature that I think will just nail it for me would be if either of the monitor outputs mixes can be routed back to the computer via USB. That way for a setup where I might have a small live application that I also want to stream. I can have a live mix and a different stream mix going at the same time. It therefore works as a device level implementation of loopback. Something that is now on almost every new audio interface/ streaming device. I think once that is done the Flow 8 will be unstoppable. As I've thought about it I guess another way to implement that would be to route the main mix to the PC via USB and just use the monitor outputs as the live on location feed? Thanks for the hard work.
You've got it right, you've just got to use the output that fits the job at hand & forget that one is called main & the others are labeled monitor. If you can feed the stream with the main out and use the monitor outs for a speaker in the room, that's a perfectly reasonable setup. Alternatively, I've described in a few other responses how in recording mode, you can patch a short 1/4" cable from the monitor out to the input of an unused channel & it will show up on that channels USB direct out to the computer as normal. I don't believe this is something they can change in firmware, but it would nice to be wrong.
@@DcSoundOp Thanks for the response. It would be nice to be wrong in this case. All the best.
I’m sorry if this was already answered, but is there a way to link input 1 & 2? I can’t find it on the app. Newbee to the digital mixer audio world!
Great review. And now with this new update what is advantage of XR12 vs Flow8 if we are not looking at number of input and Ethernet. I believe the Xr12 does not allow to be an audio interface.
I don't think they were intended for one to be better or worse than the other, they're just aimed at different use cases. I get the feeling they're going to make both as good as they can with future updates, it's just a matter of what features are important to what you're planning to use them for. Thanks for the message Nija!
I wonder if a Flow16 is something they might consider as a future line?
How do you hook up a midi keyboard to this ?
Thanks for this info. On stage can I plug in a mix of one instrument or band and vocal? I’m using an xvive u4
I'm not super familiar with the Xvive U4, but it looks like an XLR unit. You could make a monitor mix on either Mon 1 or 2 to send to that, but you'll need a 1/4" TRS M to XLR M adapter or cable to go from the MON output on the FLOW to your unit - amzn.to/3qrCo7L - Let me know if I misunderstood your question though.
Where to purchase the flow 8 I can't find it in stock anywhere?
I want to reduce the onstage keyboards I use by using a laptop computer running MainStage or Gig Performer (these would host VST synth and keys). Would I be able to just run a USB cable from the laptop to the FLOW USB and route that to channels 7/8?
Yes, you can absolutely do that 👍🏼
I'm not sure if it does this, forgive me...But It'd be really awesome if this mixer could provide a kind of mix-minus through the uSB, so you don't have to use a dedicated hardware audio interface to do it. This way you can do things like game streaming and voicechat in one box, sort of like the GoXLR used to before TC Helicon appears to have discontinued it.
Thanks for the message Nick, unfortunately there isn't a Mix minus to USB function built in to this mixer. Where did you get that the GoXLR was discontinued? Looks like it is on back order a few places, you can still get the mini on Amazon from a bunch of sellers - amzn.to/30HAg1g - go to 'see all buying options' in the top right & you'll see who has them to ship. As I'm looking at it, there are a few who have next day delivery available.
If you're looking for the full sized one, Thomann has them available immediately and ship to the US, not at all next day serivce, but pretty quick all the same depending on where you are in the world - redir.love/thoprod/455810?partner_id=60828
@@DcSoundOp Admittedly, the reason I thought it was discontinued is that their social media had gone dark for a very long time...Or I'd misread what i was looking at. That usually portends the end of a company, but clearly, I was reading it wrong. I apologize for the inconvenience.
I'd like to see being able to use the last 4 inputs as 4 separate mono rather than 2 stereo pairs
Thanks for the message Randal!
I would like to see the feature of using the USB port as an input to play audio files. In the settings, if we could assign the channel where we want the audio to come out from.
Can you expand a bit more on what you're suggesting here so I understand better? Are you looking to connect a usb drive for playback, or just playback via usb from a computer? Thanks Isaac!
@@DcSoundOp I apologize for the late response. I was thinking of connecting a usb drive for playback. I guess the other option would be good too. I ordered my Flow 8 back in November and still waiting for it to arrive 😩😤 I haven’t been able to test anything to see what it is already capable of.
Hello! I have a question: in the video you show how to use MON1 and MON2 for a stereo monitor with phones; when you do that, what happens to MON1 output and to MON2 output? Can you still use them for separate monitor (with their own mix)?
In conclusion, can I have 3 different monitor mixes using Phones output, MON1 output and MON2 output.
No... you cannot get a third mix but turning on the Mon to Phones send. It simply routes the mon bus to the phones output.
So you're saying I can route my plain guitar sound into my DAW, then output it back into my mixer after I distorted it with my vst plugins, then ONLY listen to that mix by muting everything but usb in 1/2 to my monitor out?
If so... nice!
Otherwise, do you think it's possible to ever get "recording" mode to be post effects? There must be a reason this can't be done. Streaming is OK but it's only 2 channels.
Is it possible to setup seperate mixes using Mon1 Mon2 for instance using it as a 2 person IEM setup? Thanks
Yes, absolutely. Each person could get their own mono in-ear mix, or you should create a single stereo mix for them to share, depending on the style and type of performance. Thanks for the great question.
Thanks for the video! I am a rookie and thinking between Flow 8 vs Rodecaster Pro. We are planning to do podcast with Phone calls and online callers (Zoom;Skype). Rodecaster Pro is very easy for this purpose. Connect Phone through Bluetooth and/or TRRS. Computer through USB. Can Flow 8 allow me to do the same or similar? and how?
If your primary use is going to be for a phone in show using both the USB and Bluetooth, and you really do need to send a mix minus back, from what I understand the RODE would probably be a better choice. To be clear, I have not used one personally, but from the folks I've talked to who are doing what you are, it has been designed very much for that exact purpose. Obviously the cost is a good bit more, but it sounds like you may need the functionality. All the best, let us know what you decide and how it comes together.
This mixer needs some reverb tweeks in a firmware update as the only reverbs that sound good to my ears are church and cathedral really. These also need tweaking further from what the app will allow as they either sound to dry or too much, it's difficult to find the sweet spot. They also make plosives a bit of an issue. I'm sure they can fix this.
Noise gate please !!! or noise reducction
Good stuff. If Behringer decides to copy a DAW they should copy and improve on Bitwig, that's the future of DAWs/workflow.
I haven't worked with Bitwig yet personally. What would you say is the biggest difference between it and other DAWs that make you think it's the future? Thanks for the message, I'll download the demo version someday soon when I have a chance to spend some time with it.
@@DcSoundOp Well it's not about any single thing, but more about multiple things that when combined together properly make the workflow innovative, like auto arming of selected track, click and drag to zoom, easy signal chain workflow, no windows/complicated menus to deal with, easy automation recording, futuristic and slick interface with no clutter which is a biggie as well. I tried them all, but you know, ten years ago Protools was the industry standard now Studio One is gainig momentum so people tend to ignore less popular DAWs.
Hi. If used as a usb interface, does it have individual 8 outputs to the DAW ?
In recording mode you get all eight channels in to the DAW + the L/R, so 10 channels total with 4 returns after you've updated to the latest firmware. Thanks for the message.
@@DcSoundOp thats great ! Thanks !
I love the Flow 8. I have Downgraded/Sidegraded from an XR18 as I am a solo vocalist running backing tracks and lighting control from a laptop. The number of unused inputs on the XR18 seems a waste. The only issue I have is that the Tap Tempo using the midi command doesn't appear to be consistent and sometimes misses the desired tempo by between 1 and 3 bpm. I would love for Behringer to add the ability to use a midi command to trigger an exact bpm. Would this be possible?
Hey Neil, I'll pass your message along to the team working on it & see if I can get you an answer on that.
I noticed that as you tap the button, the very first tap is just activating the ""tap tempo function". Really useless. Tap tempo starts to work from the second touch.
Does power come from microusb only or from USB B too?
An useful future implementation would be USB C, micro is really fragile.
Other useful tools would be a fully parametric eq, reverb and delay parameters (not only fixed preset).
The micro port is for power, the B is only for connecting to a host device. Thanks for the message Mauro.
@@DcSoundOp I've experienced with line6 relay, micro usb in metal housing is easy to break.
Hallo, maybe it is a stupid question... I would like to control the volume of the channels in the daw in USB recording mode. But although the fader of a channel is completely down, the signal will be recorded. So mixing in the daw doesn't work for me with the flow 8.
Maybe someone can help.
Thank you and best wishes for all
In recording mode, the level sent to your DAW is controlled by the input gain you apply to the channel on the FLOW, as it is a direct output from the FLOW-8's mic preamp. Hopefully that helps clear things up.
What's your opinion on the actual sound quality of the preamps > output...vs a UI16?
The Ui16 is the more usable console from input to output in my opinion. I've taken the Ui12 on press conferences and the mixer can get the job done. I wouldn't consider the FLOW-8 to be in the same category - it's a fine mixer for small acts looking to travel super compact, but the Ui mixers are more capable & give you more opportunity to get things sounding how you want at the output.
Is it possible to Link the Main Mix to Monitor1 and Monitor2 ?
Many musicans prefer to have the main Mix with all Effects on the Monitor.
They haven't implemented any way to do that yet in the current firmware. I know folks have asked for Pre/Post fade monitor option before, so fingers crossed it's something that the hardware can support some day. Thanks for the message Marco!
Hello I should be able to link usb IN to Fader 4.. Rout. need the system for a carousel operator. It has 3 stereo inputs and a microphone. What would also be useful in this case is a tokover function!
Will pass this along to the dev team, thanks for the feedback Stefan, sorry for the slow response.
I got this Mixer for two weeks I tried to use this mixer for zoom meeting via streaming mode. May I ask you one question how to send the monitor 1 or 2 send back to the usb playback (Mix minus via usb) Because now I can use the mix minus only use monitor 1 connect to other USB soundcard and setup zoom mic to the soundcard.
Hey Piya, the workaround to get a monitor send back to the USB is unusual, but it does work. You'll need to use the unit in 'Recording' mode to get the individual channels to appear in your computer via USB. Then you can patch from the monitor output with a 1/4" cable, back into one of the 1/4" inputs on a channel, and now that channel with pass the monitor send output over its related USB channel to the computer. Make sure you don't turn the channel you use up in the monitor mix you use, as that would be a direct feedback path, but otherwise you'll be good to go.
@@DcSoundOp Thank you for your answer. I will try on recording mode.
is it possible to create a preset? and if you off and one it will be on the last sceen ?
no reason to cross post this to all of the FLOW 8 videos on the channel. Yes, presets are possible & it does return to the last known state at power-up. You can download the app to try in demo mode for how the preset library works.
Great stuff! The new headphone routing options are awesome. I’d love to see an option to set the headphone out with its own mix, essentially becoming a 3rd aux send!
Quick question, you mentioned taking usb inputs 1/2 and 3/4 and routing them to faders 5/6 and 7/8. I thought this was a 10x2 interface, but that sounds like a 10x4, with 2 separate stereo streams coming from the pc?
Hey Lyle, thanks for the great question. In the new 'Recording' USB mode, it is indeed 10x4. The stereo channels can choose between their line level inputs or one of the USB pairs, 1/2 for the 5/6 fader & 3/4 for the 7/8 fader. Hope that helps!
@@DcSoundOp Thanks for the super quick reply! Ah, so the 10x4 config isn’t available in the “streaming” usb mode where you can send the main mix L R post-fader to the pc via usb?
@@DcSoundOp is there a way to adjust the levels of the 5/6 and 7/8 channels in Sends 1 and 2? I’ve tried every setting I can think of and I can’t seem to reduce the levels in the monitor send mixes.
Hi is it possible to connect Bluetooth ear phones and use as a monitor mix. Is this a common thing?
No, the bluetooth doesn't work that way on this one - it is for playback only.
Hi and Thanks. When I use Bluetooth Audio from an Ipad or iPhone, I get audio Glitches or Hiccups as I continue to work on the mixer while audio is playing. I suspect that the Bluetooth needs refining or some updating. I use a Mackie DX8 in the same way and the audio never glitches...Has anyone else experience any Bluetooth Audio abnormalities?
Hi Carlos, that absolutely should not be happening. I just went back & tested again, using only one iPhone 12 to play music to the FLOW via bluetooth & to run the FLOW control app. There are no glitches or hiccups that I can make happen by using the app or adjusting the mixer in person. What devices & OS are you using for playback & control currently? Are they on the latest firmware & control software versions from Behringer? Thanks for the message.
Can this loop back for streaming backing tracks to a live stream?
Hi Claudia, there is not dedicated 'loopback' function on this one like some other interfaces out there. Depending on your specific routing needs, what software you're using & if you're on PC or Mac, you could possibly do that routing in software.
Could you please tell me if I can adjust mic. level in headphones (without latency) while I record vocals for singer comfort? And my second question is could I use it as audio interface to use fader for drawing levels in previously recorded tracks in DAW?
Hello Pawel, thanks for the message. You can do zero latency monitoring with this no problem, just turn off channel monitoring in your DAW and turn the local input up on the mixer when recording. For automating tracks though, that is not possible with this mixer. For that you need a controller, not an interface. For doing that, any of the X-touch controllers will work. If you are only doing a couple of tracks at a time and the automation is important to you, maybe check out the PreSonus iOStation 24c - it is a controller with a small interface built in too. Here is a video we did about it a while back - czcams.com/video/tawF2suXJMc/video.html
@@DcSoundOp Thank you for your answer. I found this Presonus today and in case of automation is ideal. Two inputs are enough for me. One I’m afraid is I/O quality. I use old MOTU interface so far and one guy said that changing MOTU into Presonus is like changing Bentley into Opel. What do you think about Presonus audio quality?
Hey Pawel, I'm not sure it's quite Bentley to Opel, but I like your comparison. I'm a big fan of MOTU products also & do believe the difference will be noticeable depending on what you are doing. If top quality is your concern though, the FLOW 8 probably isn't the right tool for you either. You may want to look at a dedicated X-touch controller just for automation & then upgrade your MOTU accordingly or move into something from Universal Audio, RME or Focusrite PRO for similar quality or better.
@@DcSoundOp Thank you. You helped me a lot.
Thanks Pawel, I hope you'll stay in touch in the future. All the best.
One last question from me today 🤣 does this mixer have mix minus feature as I'd like to route discord Into it
No mix minus preset like other small consoles, depending on your routing needs, it may be possible, but there is not a one button solution.
@@DcSoundOp yeah I was thinking I would send one of the monitor out back into the pc mic jack for discord chat then Just mute my pals on the monitor send
Hi. Hoy can i mute the Channel monitoring to listen the daw monitoring. Thanks
Without knowing anything about how you have things routed for playback, I would try using the channel mute button in the app. Thanks Hernan.
When will it be available in the U.S. ? I have one on preorder from Sweetwater for about 3 months now!
Me too ordered in Dec.
Hi Carl, the only people who can answer that question for you is Sweetwater, right? Have you contacted them yet?
Hey I was wondering if anyone can help me out. Im very new to audio so sorry in advance for when I say something wrong. I’m creating a new setup with a 2 PC video recording situation for Gaming/Tutorials, and just generally gaming while watching a movie on the other monitor so im interested in this mixer but Im not sure if it can fulfill my needs. I could go the easy route and buy a TC Helicon Go Xlr Mini but I feel I might be limiting myself in the future by going with something like that. I will if your absolutely adamant that that’s the best option for me tho, but I thought id look around for something that might be better or be more futureproof.
Here is what I really would like to know before I can confidently buy one.
If I plug in multiple devices, lets say one mic in xlr channel 1 and one 6.3mm into channel 3, will I be able to record them onto separate channels(tracks?) in obs? So when I import my video file into premiere I will get a couple of audio sources at the bottom which I can edit separately ( lower volume on mic but not on track 2 )
I would like my Mic to go to both computers but not the entire mix this is so I can keep discord om my recording pc and still use the ingame chat on my gaming pc with the same mic. If I plug a 6.3mm into the “phones” output and into the mic input on my gaming pc will I be able to only send the mic sound or will it send the entire mix?
To make things a little more simple I will link to a png file as a reply for the routing that I want to do ( so my comment doesn’t get deleted by CZcams )
imgur.com/a/msUOg9m Here is the link to the routing Thingy i made. let me know if the link works and id be very grateful if anyone can tell me if this would work with my requirements which I listed above.
Thanks for the great review! Apparently, Behringer really IS listening to their audience... ;) Here is a quick (really basic!) question though which I haven't been able to answer for myself even after checking out all the (rather sparse) review material on the youtubes:
I'm considering this neat little mixer to be my "swiss army knife" of PC-Playback-Recording-Routing-Toy. Among other things, I'm in to a good bit of online gaming with my pals, just like any other friendly dude in your neighbourhood.
However, wenn hooked up to a PC and working as an audio interface, can this little box play back all the PC-Audio WITHOUT bringing it into the main mix? So that I DON'T send all my PC Audio (including the TeamSpeak-Signal) back through the main mix into TeamSpeak and create a nasty Feedback-Loop? And can I hear just my own mic for direct monitoring purposes?
Oh, and related to that, regarding the new "stereo link feature": Are the monitor sends stereo each, when coming out of the box? So when I hook up, let's say a pair of active studiomonitors via Y-cable only to the "monitor 1"-out - Do I get a Mono-signal?
I know it sounds silly, 'cause even Behringers low-end interfaces like the trusty U-Phoria UMC 22 here on my desk are able to do this - but I'd love to have confirmation on that by someone, who has actually hands-on-experience with the product ;)
Thanks a bunch in advance!
Hey Chris. So depending on how you want to route everything, you can certainly bring back audio from the computer an not put it in the mains. I bring my computer back in on the stereo channels for instance & use the MON 1/2 as a stereo pair for local monitoring, so that's the only place they get turned up for me. The monitor outputs are mono out of the box, just like a standard aux send. Hopefully that helps, let me know if you have more questions.
@@DcSoundOp Thank you for your swift reply!
And: Yeah, that helps a lot! Frankly, I would love to do the same thing as you did and use the new "stereo linked" MON 1/2 channel as stereo pair for local monitoring, but I have to admit I am a bit appalled by Behringers decision to make the MON 2 Button constantly flashing when "stereo linked" to MON 1. In a rather dark room / gaming scenario, this has to be quite irritating...
Whelp, so it'll be Mono-Monitoring via Y-cable for me :D There is still the headphone jack to which the new App can route the MON 1/2 signal now...
What I still don't get: I downloaded the iOS app and fiddled around with it in demo mode (nice feature for those of us who are considering the purchase, btw!). Why do the Monitor-Layers in the App have Balance-Faders for each channel, when those Monitor sends are still mono? 🤔
Oh, and while I'm at it, since you seem to have a strong connection to Behringer and since you asked for "wishes / opinions": I would love to see a Mix-Minus-Feature on the Bluetooth-Phone-Connection, just like the Rodecaster does it - this would turn the Flow 8 into the perfect Podcast / remote Interview console! (aka cheap Rodecaster killer ;-))
Bottom line still: I think I'll pull the trigger on one of these. They do a lot right now, and obviously, with further firmware updates down the line, they can do much, much more.
Thanks again!
@@Chris-hc7rh Thanks for the feedback, I have the same relationship with them as any other brand that sends in gear for us to check out, which is all about getting feedback from the community here. If you're worried about the flashing MON-2 light, you might be able to get by with the bightness literally turned down to 0. It's still just slightly on at that point, but I much more subtle. I agree that the mono channels should be labeled PAN & not balance and I mentioned that to them previously when I noticed it too. There have been a lot of folks asking about the mix-minus auto routing from the Rodecaster, but I don't know if that's something that can or will be looked at in the future for this mixer.
Let us know how it goes if you do pick one up, it's always interesting to hear other real world accounts from actual users. All the best!
I am getting fx in LR , but will i get fx in monitor 1 and monitor 2?
In your control app, go to setup, then routing, you should see all of the options for routing FX there. Thanks for the message Preet.
Thanks DcSoundOp
I have a question: in the page of the EQ, at the top right, there is a blu button named FULL. What is it for?
Many thanks who can answer me!!!
Riccardo's message was replied to in the comments of video #195.
Can this unit replace a presonus interface .. will it work with most DAW’s? Thanks
Hi Donald, this unit works like any other audio interface, so you'll be able to use it in any software or DAW you need. I noticed you asked below about connecting up a midi keyboard... this unit does not have midi inputs like some interfaces you might be used to. A separate midi to USB adapter could be used for that, or you can continue to use your current interface just for MIDI along with this for the audio side of things. I hope that's helpful, but let me know if you have more questions!
@@DcSoundOp Thank you. Very much so ... I like it so I will order one 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻💯
I have a FLOW 8. I have signals on headphones and main, but non signals on monitor send. Which buttons do I have to turn on???
When you press MON 1 or 2, you need to then bring up the channels you want in that mix, as well as the BIG main knob that is now controlling the main level for whichever send you selected.
Did you get this sorted out? I noticed you emailed as well after I responded here. Hopefully you got things figured out, enjoy your mixer.
Will this power sm7b mic? Thanks
See my reply to your question on the FLOW 8 questions video. Thanks!
@@DcSoundOp will this mixer pair well with dbx286s and SM7B mic? Thanks
Sure, the 286s is a fine mic preamp that you'll be able to plug into any of the line inputs on the FLOW 8.
I just bought on, do you think it'll come update already?
You should absolutely check to make sure it has the most recent firmware, they have updated it a number of times.
Hi I hope you can help me fix this. I just bought the flow 8 and a brand new MacBook. I installed simply put and Everything goes well until after I select the newest version (738 now) y click update. A legend comes up that reads… DFU ERROR 7: failed to prepare dfu update.
The mini screen in the mixer stays red in update mode until I turn it off.
One time the legend didn’t appear and it continued to update in the simply put but the mixer said UPDATE FAIL.
If anyone could help me i would really appreciate it.
Follow this conversation's response on the other Flow 8 video - czcams.com/video/x0owa3HC5fQ/video.html
So for an off-grid powered mixer/recorder, should I get a Zoom L8 or a Behringer F8....?
I haven't covered the Zoom L8 here yet, maybe someone who has experience can chime in here with their thoughts. The Zoom does cost like 2.5x more, and has a completely different i/O setup and feature set....so maybe consider the one that fits what your specific needs the best. Thanks for the message.
@@DcSoundOp The Zoom is not digigal, but it works great to record a small band on an SD card - all tracks + stereo mix. Generous USB interface as well, and enough pre-amps. So its worth the extra money, I'd say. But the Flow8 is digital and both can be powered by battery or charge bank, which is a great feature, when you like to play and record in exotic locations - which I always find inspiring.
I'd prefer if the L8 was digital, but being analog doesn't make it a no-go as insufficient mic preamps are.
As for the price, you are right. I'd prefer Behringer had aimed a bit higher. There is a LOT of space between the Flow and their other mixers...
I'm not budget bound, I'm just bound by what I consider a good value anywhere between the Flow 8 and the Touchmix 16.
I have an SQ-5, which is awesome, but not very portable...
For my monitor the effect better pre or post the monitor is in ear monitor that I use effect 2 only for the in ears and the effect 1 for my voice so effect 1 my voice pre or post
And effect 2 pre or post?
Typically we'd run effects on vocals post-fader, so that changes in the overall level track to the effects send (this avoids you sounding like you've fallen down a canyon if you turn your mic down in the mix). There are folks who do it the other way for sure, and a lot of deciding that has to do with how you perform and your specific taste. There's no wrong way really, as long as you know why you're doing it & are happy with the results.
@@DcSoundOp this mixer flow 8 has 2 effects or the 1 is reverb and the other delay? Is is possible to have 1 effect if it has for my voice and the other for my in ear monitor?
why i only listen to the left headphone if it is plugged into the monitor send ?
The monitor send outputs are mono balanced outputs on 1/4" TRS or Tip - Ring - Sleeve connectors. This is the same connector used for the headphone output obviously, but there is it wired as [L | R | Common] and on the monitor output the same connector is wired [+ | - | Comm] so you're only getting a mono signal and making a connection to one side of your headphones. There is also no headphone amp here, although the line level output has enough power to drive most headphones a little bit.
To use the monitor outputs properly, you'd want to connect them to a headphone amp, or an in-ear monitor transmitter for wireless, or to a monitor speaker. hope that helps.
@@DcSoundOp thank you for the answer
@@DcSoundOp can i use a behringer pm1 in monitor send and what kind of cable is suitable for monitor send? TS or TRS?
This mixer has noise Gate?
No noise gates at the moment.
How to increase audiointerface output volume..
Are you in streaming or recording mode? Give us more info on what you're doing and I'll try to help.
@@DcSoundOp streaming mode sir
in the first versions you could go to the 4 band equalizer and choose the frequency you wanted to change, apparently that was removed
can you tell me something about it?
On the 4-band EQ, just tap once on the band and the full controls should pop-up for you. At least it still does on iOS. What type of device and OS are you using? Thanks for watching!
@@DcSoundOp on android app is not working for me and it worked before firmware and app update
Make the “tap” blinker S T O P. blinking! Puleeez!
If you're not using EFX 2 specifically for delay, you can set it to anything that doesn't require a tap - like the 'Deep Chorus' preset & the Tap button will go out. Hopefully a work around that will help you until turning it off is an option. Thanks Tim.
IT should be so good If behringer would Release a rackmounting option....
That’s an interesting idea! Thanks for the message Guikri.
Mix minus would be PERFECT
You can absolutely create a mix minus on this mixer. Where you are getting stuck?
@@DcSoundOp What can you say about this : czcams.com/video/aYR7mfvl8CM/video.html
That video shows how to create a mix minus using an iPhone & the iRig interface. Do you have a specific question I can answer or a place where you are getting stuck with this? A mix minus is simply a mix sent back to a source without their input in that mix. You do this by using one of the MON sends to create that mix, then you output it to wherever it needs to go - in the case of the video you showed, to an iPhone.
The Update File Whare to download it
Hey Hasan, they should have the file available this week. I’ll post a link on the community tab here on the channel & on dcsoundop.com when it drops with step by step instructions for how to update. Thanks for the message!
@@DcSoundOp okay thanks
충청도 아저씨 가수 김성원 좋은 정보 잘보고갑니다
00:04 I suggested that Behringer stop blatantly copying Mackie while suing reviewers who they don't like and requested that they invest their resources into developing original ideas. Maybe they've turned a new leaf? A Leaf and a Flow do not a portfolio make. Let's not get too excited just yet.
How about a Leaf and a Flow and a Wing? ;-)
@@NicolaLarosa Oh, right. I wrote _Leaf;_ I meant _Wing._ Shows what I know about Behringer or anything else! 😁
Lack of Parametric eq is the only reason I won’t buy this . It’s perfect otherwise . Especially needed on master eq and monitors.
The latest version of the firmware has a four band parametric (where each band can do from 20Hz - 20KHz) on each channel. If you haven't checked it out, there is a demo mode you can try without having the console on hand.