This talking point is just a strawman. A plan can be mutually beneficial to the city and an owner. It's stupid to not do something beneficial just bc it will benefit some rich guys. Nobody just wants to give billionaires money.
this is exactly what about 95% of top economists say. It never benefits the city, and just steals from projects the money is actually needed for. I’ll take their advice over some nfl owner looking to rip off the public.
Yeah but the hunt family is way to cheap for that. They have one of the worst team facilities in the league. If they were reluctant to upgrade their team facilities, then what makes you think they'll fund a multiple billion dollar stadium? lol they'll move the team before ever funding a new stadium.
@@SteelRhinoXpress Its sounds like they decided to not invest in their team facilities. Thats not a public issue. Why do they need a new stadium? I didn't hear the news? Did Arrowhead fall down?
He had a small NFL loan. But St Louis lost the team but dodged the bullet in building him a tax payer funded stadium. Plus, they won a suit against the NFL.
Again, the Kansas location is not surrounded by nothing... it would be right next to a major retail area and both the NASCAR race track and the Sporting Kansas City soccer stadium. A little research is a good thing.
Arrowhead is a dump though, it's too old and ugly, Kauffman looks a little better, but the location sucks for both of them. They need new stadiums point blank period.
@@retrowarehouse2554 If any of these are built I guarantee you will miss the relatively low tickets prices of the OGs. I remember being able to go watch the Giants at Candlestick anytime I wanted to go and it tix being cheaper than going to the movies.
What is it that needs to be renovated at Arrowhead? Focus on the word NEED, not something they just want because they get a giant check up front. We haven’t paid off the last renovation.
Just want to mention that Arrowhead is getting old. It will be 52 yrs old before the start of the regular season. What is the lifespan of a stadium? Yes, Wrigley and Fenway are twice as old.
Dodger Stadium is about 60 years old, after renovations a few years ago, still a good stadium. Too many sports teams/leagues want all the teams having brand new stuff. OK, as long as the taxpayers aren't paying for it...which the entitled billionaires don't/won't understand
@@michaelbaucom4019 in a different comment section, different video, someone said that Arrowhead has concrete falling down. The difference between Arrowhead and Dodger Stadium is Arrowhead gets more rain and freeze/thaw cycles. Yes, Dodger Stadium has earthquakes to worry about but how many snowstorms does LA get? My Bills are getting a new stadium, the third since 1960. The first was built in the 1930’s, then came the current stadium that opened in 1973. The current stadium was a budget build after someone wanted to build a domed multipurpose stadium patterned after the Astrodome. That dome project failed and the county built a stadium to keep the Bills.
@@mikecumbo7531 Team president Mark Donovan said that there is _nothing_ wrong with the concrete at Arrowhead Stadium. He said this ahead of the failed vote in Jackson County. Royals owner Sherman and company claim _Kauffman Stadium_ has bad concrete that makes it unupgradable.
I’m just glad that slowly, but surely people are finally waking up to the stadium scam. These owners sell you emotion but they make all their decisions based on business first. You go to the game and the PA announcer says “your Kansas City Chiefs“ and you go to the parade and they talk about “you’re the greatest fans in the world” and us this and us that but when it comes down to it, they’d move to Dubuque, Iowa if they’d pay for a stadium for them and that’s the facts
@@scotttild Few locations? St. Louis San Diego Austin San Antonio Salt Lake City Portland Orlando Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill Norfolk-Virginia Beach Sacramento Oakland Birmingham Memphis Louisville Columbus Milwaukee Richmond Omaha Oklahoma City Tulsa
Keep it up with this attitude. The NFL has a franchise in Green Bay. There are dozens of cities in the US that would absolutely kill to have the NFL and would pay the Hunts whatever they wanted. You do not want to be the city that chases off major league teams so you can "stick it" to billionaires.
@@willp.8120a lot of those teams too close to other NFL or major college football teams. Portland, STL, San Diego, and San Antonio(although Jerry Jones wouldn't allow it) are the only ones on your list that could work.
@@MrManfly Accurate. They see money there to be taken and pretend that they must have it to survive. People actually believe it makes sense that an entire county should go into debt to give billionaires billions of dollars that they don't even pay back. It blows my mind that people can be on board with that backwards idea that is completely void of logic.
@@EverydayJohn931 yes as an incentive to the chiefs. Clark Hunt owns Arrowhead bro. The Chiefs and Royals pay less than a million a year for rent but receive hundreds of millions and now talking of multi billions to build facilities to operate their private business. Sports authority owning the stadiums is a loophole to allow the teams to sit back and watch the public fund their private business. Every sports owner in America knows how to grift the public and technically not owning the venue is the key to their public funds access
You would think people would be more concerned with what’s happening around the country and the world then a stupid stadium where you pay $50 to park your car $20 for a hotdog
Part of the problem in Jackson county is that it's already one of the highest taxed counties in Missouri, and many people are struggling to put food on the table under this administration. So who in their right mind is going to vote to be taxed even more for mere entertainment? Especially since all it does is fill the pockets of the billionaire owners and other wealthy elites even more. The current stadium is fine. It has no problems doing what it was designed and built to do, and has done for many years now, which is...host football games. It's the elites and a select few fans that always want more and better...as long as someone else is going to pay for it. **rolls eyes** While the rest that don't live for football (a mere game) want to keep their money for actual life stuff. You want it, YOU pay for it. If they leave, they leave.
@@mikemitchell8329 - With all due respect, the tale of - 'we need to tax you more so YOU can have more money and be better off' is the oldest lie in the wealthy elitist play book. Jackson county isn't poor (by most county standards), and doesn't need any sports team to be able to flourish more, it just needs better management of the already gross amount of tax money already coming in. If this country keeps going like it is, spending money on mere sporting and recreational activity will quickly be a thing of the past when people's credit cards are full and their bellies are empty. :(
Anytime you think that your country is making millions off , sports in Jackson county and that 3/8 cent tax money then you are in a dream world, you have business that are closing weekly because of the crime in the south part of downtown and a mayor that has an interests only in defending the police and spending your tax money
Oh God...Not another renovation of Arrowhead stadium...Build a brand new stadium at the Truman Sports Complex similar to the way the Denver Broncos did at the Mile High Stadium Complex...The Royals are going downtown...possibly at the originally sited East Village area...
Is there an appetite among the public to have taxpayers contribute to a new ballpark for the Royals? The Chiefs are first in line with the Royals about 50 miles behind in terms of sports in KC.
@@michaelmarkowski204 The recent KCMO tax renewal vote...in my opinion...would have passed if the Royals didn't make a last second heist to take over the burgeoning Crossroads district and if the Chiefs presented the wise choice of building a brand new Arrowhead stadium still at the Truman Sports Complex after the Royals leave the Truman sports park...
The east village is dead. The soil tests came back positive with lead and other contaminants. That will permanently be a parking lot and bus depot. It is going to be the crossroads location or Jackson County will lose the Royals and Chiefs.
@@michaelmarkowski204 The Royals are in a much more dire situation. There is no way they can stay at Kauffman. The Chiefs can possibly stay at Arrowhead. The owners of the Chiefs have a lot more money and and the team makes more money than the Royals. It make some sense to renovate Arrowhead (although a new stadium would make more long term sense). The location of Kauffmann is just terrible for baseball and is one reason they draw so poorly during weekdays. The bigger problem with Kauffman is that it will need a billion dollars just to keep it going for another 20-30 years and it's just not worth putting that kind of money into that stadium in that location. There is no ROI. If the Royals don't get a new stadium, they are likely leaving KC.
The city can compliment the area where the stadiums are now. There is so much potential for the two entities to come together. The Chiefs and Royals deserve to have that area upgraded. There is TOO MUCH history for those two stadiums/teams to just leave.
Are you daft!? Four superbowls! Yeah billions! What's best for KC fans the team and organization is Kansas! What its not dead! Negotiations are just beginning, F Jackson county!
OK, DG, another failed research video. The proposal in the KS Legislature was last minute and the committee that needed to have a hearing to allow it to be voted on the House floor had already adjourned for the year. But the odds are strong that Gov. Kelly will be calling the Leg. back for a special session for other tax questions. Once they’re back in session, the Leg. can pass any bill they want. This rendering was nothing more than an example for the Leg., not anything close to what it will be when built. The Chiefs had no say or input in this rendering. Kansas also wanted to get their foot in the door to let both teams know Kansas is open to both of them. According to MO law, JACo, MO cannot bring the issue back for a vote for 12 months after the issue was last voted on. Don’t forget the new college football playoff will add more games, such as the CFP championship game! Plus KC could host a bowl game. The proposed site in NOT in an open field! It right next door to the Kansas Speedway and the Legends.
Local news here in KC is saying they may just call a special session to vote on it so it doesn't have to be rushed. These renderings obviously took a while to make meaning the Chiefs have been putting effort into it. They're not going to give that easily.
You’re very wrong about there not being nothing around the new arrowhead location in Kansas. It’s in an area called. The legends were sporting. Casey is right there. Hollywood casino and entire outdoor mall hibachi grills restaurants great Wolf Lodge, Jack stack barbecue everything‘s around there only thing where arrowhead stadium is at is a Taco Bell and a gas station.
It’s not dead the Kansas legislature ended day after they purpose anything to the board. However, it can be called an emergency legislative session if they need to use it for this purpose. They need to determine if the taxpayers need to vote for it or can the legislature send thru according to the state law.
It’s dead just simply no public support behind it just the local government I just don’t see the Kansas side getting over 50% approval on it maybe for one but for both your talking over 3 billion what would be smart is Missouri pays for half Kansas pays for half put one in Kansas put one in Missouri make both sides of the line happy it’s not all just left on one side to pay the whole tab either way it’s the same city it basically benefits the both the same why not pay 50 / 50 between the states
This is 75% a done deal. STAR bonds work and the sales tax from the stadium events are what pays for it. A special session vote will get it done and it has support from both sides of the isle. Jackson County, KC and Missouri- you snooze, you lose.
Its not dead they will continue the process at a later date. Until then Jackson County better come up with a good proposal on why they should still stay in Missouri
Well, guess what. Frank White and his cronies have stated that they won't enact a special session and it has to be another 12 months until another ballot measure can be put on the ballot. Don't be so sure the Royals or Chiefs will want to come back to the table then.
It's not over. Anyone who thought this was going to happen in a day, was foolish. More research and negotiations will have to happen before a decision would be made. There's no doubt they will move to KCK. KCMO has no play, they laid out all the cards they had with that tax vote. One rendering does not a new stadium make.
Build a new modern Arrowhead Stadium, same style but with all the bells and whistles, open air, include awning around the top for partial shade and to amplify sound! Build it right next door, then replace old stadium with a stadium district to increase revenue opportunities. Do the same with the Royals, but not at the same time.
Kansas wants the Chiefs because they’re winning. If they were in some bad years, no one would be talking about this. They are going to ruin the dynasty they’re going for. The whole thing leaves a bad taste.
@ronaldnelson6692 Vegas is a bit different being a gambling destination and they can capitalize on promotional events with casinos. It is all tied in with tourism. I don't think either KC from both states can compare in tourism and the revenue that comes from it.
@@AZLANKHAN003 It would improve the state of Kansas revenue immensely with all the events they can bring to that stadium. Concerts, monster truck rallies the Superbowl.
@ronaldnelson6692 not disagreeing with that buddy... just was replying to your Vegas comparison. Vegas has benefits that a lot of markets can't compete with unless you are speaking about highly populated cities.
@@AZLANKHAN003 But you would think that they would have got a better team than the Raiders because they haven't had a winning season pretty much since they went to the Superbowl in 2003.
You need to quit showing renderings of these projects. The only thing the owners care about is building the stadium/arena all the other things in the renderings are just to tease the taxpayers.
The reason the designs are so similar is that if your objective is to build a domed stadium optimized for football, but wide enough to accommodate FIFA, they're all going to look similar. Arrowhead is indeed legendary, because when everyone else was building convertible stadia that sucked at football and baseball (Oakland Coliseum) KC built a dedicated football stadium and a dedicated baseball stadium for about the same money as a single sucky stadium would.
Go West... move em to San Diego. Billionaire Joseph Tsai lives in San Diego and owns the Brooklyn Nets and NY liberty. He wants to build a stadium in San Diego and be involved with an NFL team. City of San Diego eventually hated Chargers owner Dean Spanos because he was a cheapskate and horrible owner. I don't think Chiefs would move there but who knows ,but I do know Tsai living in SD wants to put money towards a stadium etc... in San Diego. Kroenke who owns Rams actually is helping fund a new Arena for Hockey and Basketball in San Diego. San Diego county Metro has almost 4 million people.
The whole point of the Royals leaving Kauffman was to go downtown. I think it’s very clear they want the Crossroads site. As a backup they would go to NKC in Clay County, Missouri, right across from downtown. The Chiefs are more likely to end up in Kansas but it’s still unlikely. The want to remain at Arrowhead and new stadium talk is a leverage play, imo.
San Diego should lure a team....the Kansas City Chiefs. They wouldn't need a dome there but could still offer a new stadium with plenty of great amenities and great weather. Fans could cheer on the San Diego Sharks.
You might want to go and look up where they would plan to build this I am sure they would plan to build this in the Legends area and there is actually plenty of shopping places in the area there's food in the area Sporting KC stadium is over there as well as another Stadium there are hotels in the area so it's not just surrounded by trees
Kansas has the KC suburbs with money, but outside of that they don't have a lot of money. I kept thinking there is no way they can foot the bill unless they just sell their souls and future.
@jasonherron4199 Kansas, has a lot of millionaires and 12 billionaires and few of them are in double and triple digit. I know because I use to wait on some of them.
This is a grift, these star bonds happened around 2007 and they have had a lot of problems paying the bond holders as the revenue from the tax isn’t enough.
The plan will eventually turn into - the Royals will move to a new stadium elsewhere. Kauffman will get torn down, a new Arrowhead will get built on the spot, then old Arrowhead will be torn down and that lot turned into "Chiefs Village". Book it.
There's far more surrounding the KS site than the Truman Sports Complex. The legends shopping area, the Speedway, Children's Mercy Park, and plenty of restaurants.
Since I believe the LA Chargers lease Sofi Stadium from the LA Rams....how about the Fort Worth Chiefs lease AT&T Stadium from the Dallas Cowboys? Fort Worth is more than twice the size of Kansas City, MO; and the Dallas-Fort Worth Metropolitan Area (8.1 million people) is more than 3.5 times the size of the Kansas City Metro area. Not to mention the Chiefs started in DFW area, Home of Hunt Family.
There is zero chance that any NFL team moves to Dallas. The Cowboys are the richest professional sports franchise in the world and there's no way Jerry or the NFL would ever allow any barriers to the Cowboys making as much money as possible. I see this posted in every video about this and it just needs to stop. It's never going to happen. There is exactly one place the Chiefs can realistically move to that the other NFL owners would vote to allow and it's the Kansas side of Kansas City.
We need to look at a larger new Stadium in closed at 90k too 100seating. At 3 Billion dollars and do something like Packers have. But instead we just make it a Tribal membership certificate monthly contributions of like $25 to $100 at beginning levels for 60 months to all rural area of Kansas can support the new Stadium using a Specialty Account laws for Chiefs.
Following the the Cherokee Nation has Seven tribes. When I have been at game in Arrowhead I have had fans from Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Texas and Oklahoma. So have tribal membership if chiefs for six states and in for world wide.
Both stadiums are over 50 years old there's only so much renovations you can do if they can't build new stadiums they should move and lose the teams it's very simple
Every time I see the stadium videos, it looks more and more like ownership wants change just for the sake of change. Change should only be for the sake of improvement, not change for change itself
As I said in your previous vide, Chiefs ownership has absolutely no desire in building a new domed stadium on the Kansas state side nor the Missouri State side. The only thing those idiots are interested in is keeping their asses plunked down where they currently are, renovating Arrowhead and leaving it as an open-air stadium. Which to me is pretty pathetic because K.C. will never have a chance to host a Superbowl.
My property tax already went up. Clark Hunt has much more money than me . As much as I love watching the chiefs i cannot afford to go to a game why should I have to pay for rich guys to have a place to play a game
Just like the NASCAR track it was supposed to be in Missouri , up by the airport , messed around and messed around Kansas made an offer and the rest is history
I don't understand why the tax payers are turned off ,they haven't built a new stadium for baseball or football in over 50 years .I've not seen the proposed Royals stadium but the proposed Chief's stadium looks off the hook 😁 like the wise tale says its cheaper to build from scratch then to refurbish a existing building especially old buildings 😊
CHIEFS FOOTBALL POEM 2024 The stands are full of eager fans Who say, we're paid too much money! But if they would put our suits on They'd find football isn't funny. Twenty-two men and five referees Chasing a pigskin, air filled ball. Mashing and bashing all the way Till the striped shirts whistle their call. All the generals on the sideline Are waging their athletic war. And the letters in the words they use Never amount to more than four. There's no substitute for winning And no excuse for losing. Though after games; when we can't sleep It's because of all the bruising. By Kansas City Poet Tom Zart! Most Published Poet On The Web!
These plans are not well thought out and the designs appear to be vanity projects of the owners and architects … just not well thought out and I would vote against it!
St Louis Chiefs perhaps? Ok that maybe a long shot, but St Louis has been begging for an NFL team since the rams left. They would most definitely bend over backwards to build whatever stadium the chiefs would want.
24 of the 32 owners have to approve _any_ move. The league/owners _hate_ St. Louis. That $790 million settlement plus legal costs they had to cough up in 2022 left a bad taste in their mouths.
@@oubrioko it is NOT true that the league/owners hate St, Louis, that is YOUR propaganda. YES, St. Louis won a Billion dollar lawsuit due to the shady owner of the Rams and St. Louis fought back and won an OBVIOUS lawsuit. The owners are not stupid, the problem is KROENKE ...NOT St Louis.
@@DavidZinselmeier If it _is_ propaganda, it's propaganda by owners like Jerry Jones. (I certainly didn't force him to make those quotes). It's not St Louis' fault that they were hoodwinked by Kroenke, but the league owners currently have no interest in locating _another_ franchise in that market
This rendering was just something a firm put out on its own and has absolutely no connection with the team or local government and you're reporting on it like it's an official proposal by the Chiefs. One of the guys that designed aligent stadium grew up in suburban Kansas City KS and graduated Shawnee mission east so his firm did a rendering to help pitch the idea. You also say soldier field randomly when it doesn't fit the context. Everything you're saying is just nonsense at that point you're not understanding what's going on.
They are doing the same thing that Trump is being accused of. They don’t want to use their own money because they want to stay as billionaires. What wrong with this picture?
People are sick of paying for stadiums that only last 20-30 years. These teams need to be paying for new stadiums. Enough is enough.
Arrowhead opened in seventies. That’s fifty years.
The owners need to pay it themselves if they want new stadiums.
Exactly
This talking point is just a strawman. A plan can be mutually beneficial to the city and an owner. It's stupid to not do something beneficial just bc it will benefit some rich guys. Nobody just wants to give billionaires money.
Tickets would be through the roof if they do.
this is exactly what about 95% of top economists say. It never benefits the city, and just steals from projects the money is actually needed for. I’ll take their advice over some nfl owner looking to rip off the public.
Period
Reminder to our Kansas City friends. When the Rams left St. Louis the owner built SoFi 100% from his own pockets
Yeah but the hunt family is way to cheap for that. They have one of the worst team facilities in the league. If they were reluctant to upgrade their team facilities, then what makes you think they'll fund a multiple billion dollar stadium? lol they'll move the team before ever funding a new stadium.
@@SteelRhinoXpressnot my issue
@@SteelRhinoXpress Its sounds like they decided to not invest in their team facilities. Thats not a public issue. Why do they need a new stadium? I didn't hear the news? Did Arrowhead fall down?
He had a small NFL loan. But St Louis lost the team but dodged the bullet in building him a tax payer funded stadium. Plus, they won a suit against the NFL.
Ya and the Rams organization got sued by the city of St.Louis for collusion for almost a billion dollars too
Again, the Kansas location is not surrounded by nothing... it would be right next to a major retail area and both the NASCAR race track and the Sporting Kansas City soccer stadium. A little research is a good thing.
Both Kansas City stadiums are fantastic and they only need at most a basic renovation. This is dumb.
100% agree!
Koffmann is unsaveable apparently
Arrowhead is a dump though, it's too old and ugly, Kauffman looks a little better, but the location sucks for both of them. They need new stadiums point blank period.
@@retrowarehouse2554 If any of these are built I guarantee you will miss the relatively low tickets prices of the OGs. I remember being able to go watch the Giants at Candlestick anytime I wanted to go and it tix being cheaper than going to the movies.
Retroware-
Your a dog
What is it that needs to be renovated at Arrowhead? Focus on the word NEED, not something they just want because they get a giant check up front. We haven’t paid off the last renovation.
Just want to mention that Arrowhead is getting old. It will be 52 yrs old before the start of the regular season. What is the lifespan of a stadium? Yes, Wrigley and Fenway are twice as old.
Dodger Stadium is about 60 years old, after renovations a few years ago, still a good stadium. Too many sports teams/leagues want all the teams having brand new stuff. OK, as long as the taxpayers aren't paying for it...which the entitled billionaires don't/won't understand
They want more/fancier vip suites.
@@michaelbaucom4019 in a different comment section, different video, someone said that Arrowhead has concrete falling down. The difference between Arrowhead and Dodger Stadium is Arrowhead gets more rain and freeze/thaw cycles. Yes, Dodger Stadium has earthquakes to worry about but how many snowstorms does LA get?
My Bills are getting a new stadium, the third since 1960. The first was built in the 1930’s, then came the current stadium that opened in 1973. The current stadium was a budget build after someone wanted to build a domed multipurpose stadium patterned after the Astrodome. That dome project failed and the county built a stadium to keep the Bills.
@@mikecumbo7531 Team president Mark Donovan said that there is _nothing_ wrong with the concrete at Arrowhead Stadium. He said this ahead of the failed vote in Jackson County. Royals owner Sherman and company claim _Kauffman Stadium_ has bad concrete that makes it unupgradable.
I’m just glad that slowly, but surely people are finally waking up to the stadium scam. These owners sell you emotion but they make all their decisions based on business first. You go to the game and the PA announcer says “your Kansas City Chiefs“ and you go to the parade and they talk about “you’re the greatest fans in the world” and us this and us that but when it comes down to it, they’d move to Dubuque, Iowa if they’d pay for a stadium for them and that’s the facts
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They are going to have a harder time trying to hold cities hostage when they aren’t too many more markets available and every team wants a new toy.
Exactly NFL has vey few locations to even expand to. Most are in other teams markets already.
@@scotttild
Few locations?
St. Louis
San Diego
Austin
San Antonio
Salt Lake City
Portland
Orlando
Raleigh-Durham-Chapel Hill
Norfolk-Virginia Beach
Sacramento
Oakland
Birmingham
Memphis
Louisville
Columbus
Milwaukee
Richmond
Omaha
Oklahoma City
Tulsa
That is exactly right. This stadium grift is coming to an end and I'm proud to be a part of it. It makes no sense
Keep it up with this attitude. The NFL has a franchise in Green Bay. There are dozens of cities in the US that would absolutely kill to have the NFL and would pay the Hunts whatever they wanted. You do not want to be the city that chases off major league teams so you can "stick it" to billionaires.
@@willp.8120a lot of those teams too close to other NFL or major college football teams. Portland, STL, San Diego, and San Antonio(although Jerry Jones wouldn't allow it) are the only ones on your list that could work.
Kauffman stadium is beautiful..i dont know why they wanna leave
it is NOT beautiful. its old and decrepit. a concrete mess.
Seven more years ,then you don't have to worry about it
@@DavidZinselmeier you never took a tour or never been besides in the stands
@@mikemitchell8329 4 their lease up 2028 and honestly we don't care that much....chiefs we gone go crazy over
@@mikemitchell8329 nobody here cared bout the royals since 2018
Turns out people are tired of it. They can pay for it themselves. There’s no NEED for public money for a billionaires private business.
Billionaires got that way making other people pay for what they want! 🤷🏻♂️
@@MrManfly Accurate. They see money there to be taken and pretend that they must have it to survive. People actually believe it makes sense that an entire county should go into debt to give billionaires billions of dollars that they don't even pay back. It blows my mind that people can be on board with that backwards idea that is completely void of logic.
The Chiefs don't own Arrowhead it is owned by the county.
@@EverydayJohn931 yes as an incentive to the chiefs. Clark Hunt owns Arrowhead bro. The Chiefs and Royals pay less than a million a year for rent but receive hundreds of millions and now talking of multi billions to build facilities to operate their private business. Sports authority owning the stadiums is a loophole to allow the teams to sit back and watch the public fund their private business. Every sports owner in America knows how to grift the public and technically not owning the venue is the key to their public funds access
@@randyjohnson9760 They pay just over million.
You would think people would be more concerned with what’s happening around the country and the world then a stupid stadium where you pay $50 to park your car $20 for a hotdog
Part of the problem in Jackson county is that it's already one of the highest taxed counties in Missouri, and many people are struggling to put food on the table under this administration. So who in their right mind is going to vote to be taxed even more for mere entertainment? Especially since all it does is fill the pockets of the billionaire owners and other wealthy elites even more. The current stadium is fine. It has no problems doing what it was designed and built to do, and has done for many years now, which is...host football games. It's the elites and a select few fans that always want more and better...as long as someone else is going to pay for it. **rolls eyes** While the rest that don't live for football (a mere game) want to keep their money for actual life stuff. You want it, YOU pay for it. If they leave, they leave.
You think Jackson county is poor now get rid of all the money they get from sports and you will be just what it is downtown , a getto
@@mikemitchell8329 - With all due respect, the tale of - 'we need to tax you more so YOU can have more money and be better off' is the oldest lie in the wealthy elitist play book. Jackson county isn't poor (by most county standards), and doesn't need any sports team to be able to flourish more, it just needs better management of the already gross amount of tax money already coming in. If this country keeps going like it is, spending money on mere sporting and recreational activity will quickly be a thing of the past when people's credit cards are full and their bellies are empty. :(
Anytime you think that your country is making millions off , sports in Jackson county and that 3/8 cent tax money then you are in a dream world, you have business that are closing weekly because of the crime in the south part of downtown and a mayor that has an interests only in defending the police and spending your tax money
People are waking up.
Thank you for all the video
Oh God...Not another renovation of Arrowhead stadium...Build a brand new stadium at the Truman Sports Complex similar to the way the Denver Broncos did at the Mile High Stadium Complex...The Royals are going downtown...possibly at the originally sited East Village area...
Is there an appetite among the public to have taxpayers contribute to a new ballpark for the Royals? The Chiefs are first in line with the Royals about 50 miles behind in terms of sports in KC.
@@michaelmarkowski204 The recent KCMO tax renewal vote...in my opinion...would have passed if the Royals didn't make a last second heist to take over the burgeoning Crossroads district and if the Chiefs presented the wise choice of building a brand new Arrowhead stadium still at the Truman Sports Complex after the Royals leave the Truman sports park...
A downtown stadium for the Royals is a bad idea.
The east village is dead. The soil tests came back positive with lead and other contaminants. That will permanently be a parking lot and bus depot. It is going to be the crossroads location or Jackson County will lose the Royals and Chiefs.
@@michaelmarkowski204 The Royals are in a much more dire situation. There is no way they can stay at Kauffman. The Chiefs can possibly stay at Arrowhead. The owners of the Chiefs have a lot more money and and the team makes more money than the Royals.
It make some sense to renovate Arrowhead (although a new stadium would make more long term sense). The location of Kauffmann is just terrible for baseball and is one reason they draw so poorly during weekdays. The bigger problem with Kauffman is that it will need a billion dollars just to keep it going for another 20-30 years and it's just not worth putting that kind of money into that stadium in that location. There is no ROI. If the Royals don't get a new stadium, they are likely leaving KC.
The city can compliment the area where the stadiums are now.
There is so much potential for the two entities to come together.
The Chiefs and Royals deserve to have that area upgraded.
There is TOO MUCH history for those two stadiums/teams to just leave.
Are you daft!? Four superbowls! Yeah billions! What's best for KC fans the team and organization is Kansas! What its not dead! Negotiations are just beginning, F Jackson county!
OK, DG, another failed research video. The proposal in the KS Legislature was last minute and the committee that needed to have a hearing to allow it to be voted on the House floor had already adjourned for the year. But the odds are strong that Gov. Kelly will be calling the Leg. back for a special session for other tax questions. Once they’re back in session, the Leg. can pass any bill they want. This rendering was nothing more than an example for the Leg., not anything close to what it will be when built. The Chiefs had no say or input in this rendering. Kansas also wanted to get their foot in the door to let both teams know Kansas is open to both of them. According to MO law, JACo, MO cannot bring the issue back for a vote for 12 months after the issue was last voted on.
Don’t forget the new college football playoff will add more games, such as the CFP championship game! Plus KC could host a bowl game.
The proposed site in NOT in an open field! It right next door to the Kansas Speedway and the Legends.
Thank you! Cook up!
They'll call a special session and vote then. FAR from dead
They tried and Frank White said it can't go back onto the ballot for 12 months.
@@brmhandleHe’s referring Kansas calling a special session, which would allow for them to vote on thr STAR Bonds plan.
Local news here in KC is saying they may just call a special session to vote on it so it doesn't have to be rushed. These renderings obviously took a while to make meaning the Chiefs have been putting effort into it. They're not going to give that easily.
Trust me it's not the end.
Renovations are a waste of money. The money is a third of a new stadium. Put that money towards a new stadium.
You’re very wrong about there not being nothing around the new arrowhead location in Kansas. It’s in an area called. The legends were sporting. Casey is right there. Hollywood casino and entire outdoor mall hibachi grills restaurants great Wolf Lodge, Jack stack barbecue everything‘s around there only thing where arrowhead stadium is at is a Taco Bell and a gas station.
It’s not dead the Kansas legislature ended day after they purpose anything to the board. However, it can be called an emergency legislative session if they need to use it for this purpose. They need to determine if the taxpayers need to vote for it or can the legislature send thru according to the state law.
It’s dead just simply no public support behind it just the local government I just don’t see the Kansas side getting over 50% approval on it maybe for one but for both your talking over 3 billion what would be smart is Missouri pays for half Kansas pays for half put one in Kansas put one in Missouri make both sides of the line happy it’s not all just left on one side to pay the whole tab either way it’s the same city it basically benefits the both the same why not pay 50 / 50 between the states
The browns new domed stadium should look like the top half of a football and team colors/logo
This is 75% a done deal. STAR bonds work and the sales tax from the stadium events are what pays for it. A special session vote will get it done and it has support from both sides of the isle. Jackson County, KC and Missouri- you snooze, you lose.
Its not dead they will continue the process at a later date. Until then Jackson County better come up with a good proposal on why they should still stay in Missouri
Well, guess what. Frank White and his cronies have stated that they won't enact a special session and it has to be another 12 months until another ballot measure can be put on the ballot. Don't be so sure the Royals or Chiefs will want to come back to the table then.
It's not over. Anyone who thought this was going to happen in a day, was foolish. More research and negotiations will have to happen before a decision would be made. There's no doubt they will move to KCK. KCMO has no play, they laid out all the cards they had with that tax vote.
One rendering does not a new stadium make.
Build a new modern Arrowhead Stadium, same style but with all the bells and whistles, open air, include awning around the top for partial shade and to amplify sound! Build it right next door, then replace old stadium with a stadium district to increase revenue opportunities. Do the same with the Royals, but not at the same time.
Kansas wants the Chiefs because they’re winning. If they were in some bad years, no one would be talking about this. They are going to ruin the dynasty they’re going for. The whole thing leaves a bad taste.
@jewely9757 Then why did Vegas want the Raiders? They haven't had a winning season in a long time.
@ronaldnelson6692 Vegas is a bit different being a gambling destination and they can capitalize on promotional events with casinos. It is all tied in with tourism. I don't think either KC from both states can compare in tourism and the revenue that comes from it.
@@AZLANKHAN003 It would improve the state of Kansas revenue immensely with all the events they can bring to that stadium. Concerts, monster truck rallies the Superbowl.
@ronaldnelson6692 not disagreeing with that buddy... just was replying to your Vegas comparison. Vegas has benefits that a lot of markets can't compete with unless you are speaking about highly populated cities.
@@AZLANKHAN003 But you would think that they would have got a better team than the Raiders because they haven't had a winning season pretty much since they went to the Superbowl in 2003.
You need to quit showing renderings of these projects. The only thing the owners care about is building the stadium/arena all the other things in the renderings are just to tease the taxpayers.
They don't need to tease the other shopping areas are already there
Royals should move to Nashville and beat the Chisox to it.
There are no shovels in the ground for ballparks for either team in Nashville I just Googled it
Except the Rays may beat them to it if the proposed Tampa fiasco falls apart
@@michaelleroy9281 You had to Google that? 🤦🏻♂️
@@michaelbaucom4019 True. I am hoping they go to Charlotte..
Nah they'll stay in KC
The reason plans keep failing is the public finding part.
I guess mid sized cities just can't have teams then. Pro sports for NY and LA only
The London Chiefs sound good
You should do a video on the renderings for the golden park renovation for the Mississippi braves moving to Columbus
why wouldn't they want to move to Kansas it's going to happen.
The reason the designs are so similar is that if your objective is to build a domed stadium optimized for football, but wide enough to accommodate FIFA, they're all going to look similar.
Arrowhead is indeed legendary, because when everyone else was building convertible stadia that sucked at football and baseball (Oakland Coliseum) KC built a dedicated football stadium and a dedicated baseball stadium for about the same money as a single sucky stadium would.
What is the dif between tax payers building a dry cleaners and the owner keeps the profits, and the entity known as MLB, NFL biz gets same deal? Fair?
A dry cleaner has an actual direct benefit to the public and could be in use year round.
Go West... move em to San Diego. Billionaire Joseph Tsai lives in San Diego and owns the Brooklyn Nets and NY liberty. He wants to build a stadium in San Diego and be involved with an NFL team. City of San Diego eventually hated Chargers owner Dean Spanos because he was a cheapskate and horrible owner. I don't think Chiefs would move there but who knows ,but I do know Tsai living in SD wants to put money towards a stadium etc... in San Diego. Kroenke who owns Rams actually is helping fund a new Arena for Hockey and Basketball in San Diego. San Diego county Metro has almost 4 million people.
Thank god. Any arrowhead replacement better be same level as SoFi imo. Arrowhead is too legendary to replace with a cookie cut stadium
Not if it's empty
The whole point of the Royals leaving Kauffman was to go downtown. I think it’s very clear they want the Crossroads site. As a backup they would go to NKC in Clay County, Missouri, right across from downtown. The Chiefs are more likely to end up in Kansas but it’s still unlikely. The want to remain at Arrowhead and new stadium talk is a leverage play, imo.
San Diego should lure a team....the Kansas City Chiefs. They wouldn't need a dome there but could still offer a new stadium with plenty of great amenities and great weather. Fans could cheer on the San Diego Sharks.
You might want to go and look up where they would plan to build this I am sure they would plan to build this in the Legends area and there is actually plenty of shopping places in the area there's food in the area Sporting KC stadium is over there as well as another Stadium there are hotels in the area so it's not just surrounded by trees
It seems like they don't care about the history of arrowhead at all, what a shame.
Make the owners pay. The Hunt family has the money. Keep Arrowhead.
Have you ever been to the KS side because you keep going off these pictures, that is not how it looks over there
Kansas has the KC suburbs with money, but outside of that they don't have a lot of money. I kept thinking there is no way they can foot the bill unless they just sell their souls and future.
@jasonherron4199
Kansas, has a lot of millionaires and 12 billionaires and few of them are in double and triple digit. I know because I use to wait on some of them.
I know MANY people in Jackson county who are very well off financially. Your statement at one time was more true but not so much now.
Johnson County is very wealthy, but Wyandotte is not.
That's wishful thinking, Missouri never learns, St Louis said the same damn thing
LESS GOO!!,
This is a grift, these star bonds happened around 2007 and they have had a lot of problems paying the bond holders as the revenue from the tax isn’t enough.
I don’t know why they can’t rebuild right where they are. They have the land there.
Is the Royals new ballpark confirmed? Did the Royals owner announce the team will fund it 100% privately with the land already purchased?
Clark Hunt needs to cough up money to renovate Arrowhead and the owner of the Royals needs to do the same with his stadium
The plan will eventually turn into - the Royals will move to a new stadium elsewhere. Kauffman will get torn down, a new Arrowhead will get built on the spot, then old Arrowhead will be torn down and that lot turned into "Chiefs Village". Book it.
And who will _pay_ for this new stadium, demolition of Kauffman, and Chiefs village?
Not in JacksonCounty
Nope. Chiefs President Mark Donavan has already said that they don’t feel that that area is worth redeveloping. In other words, it’s a dump.
@@davidbrooks9592 so you would rather they move to Texas, right.
@@mikemitchell8329 Don’t be obtuse. They’ll move to Kansas - which is where they’ll end up - before they consider leaving the Kansas City metro.
Crowdfund it, Star Citizen Stadium
Authoritize???
There's far more surrounding the KS site than the Truman Sports Complex. The legends shopping area, the Speedway, Children's Mercy Park, and plenty of restaurants.
These owners are like the guy who hast to buy a new car every year for some new gadget.
It is legendary.
Would that be cool do the new stadium half of it would be in Kansas City Kansas and the other half of being in Kansas City Missouri
Privatize the profits, socialize the costs. Why do we continue to allow Billionaires to exist?
When mention holding final four super bowls. Should mention Wrestlemania. That more than two days of events and has larger attendance than NCAA
I want the old stadium with the cheat code that makes it very loud for the other teams.
“Multi-billionaire needs financial help from the working class building a billion dollar stadium.”
Since I believe the LA Chargers lease Sofi Stadium from the LA Rams....how about the Fort Worth Chiefs lease AT&T Stadium from the Dallas Cowboys? Fort Worth is more than twice the size of Kansas City, MO; and the Dallas-Fort Worth Metropolitan Area (8.1 million people) is more than 3.5 times the size of the Kansas City Metro area. Not to mention the Chiefs started in DFW area, Home of Hunt Family.
There is zero chance that any NFL team moves to Dallas. The Cowboys are the richest professional sports franchise in the world and there's no way Jerry or the NFL would ever allow any barriers to the Cowboys making as much money as possible. I see this posted in every video about this and it just needs to stop. It's never going to happen. There is exactly one place the Chiefs can realistically move to that the other NFL owners would vote to allow and it's the Kansas side of Kansas City.
We need to look at a larger new Stadium in closed at 90k too 100seating. At 3 Billion dollars and do something like Packers have. But instead we just make it a Tribal membership certificate monthly contributions of like $25 to $100 at beginning levels for 60 months to all rural area of Kansas can support the new Stadium using a Specialty Account laws for Chiefs.
Following the the Cherokee Nation has Seven tribes. When I have been at game in Arrowhead I have had fans from Nebraska, Iowa, Missouri, Arkansas, Texas and Oklahoma. So have tribal membership if chiefs for six states and in for world wide.
Cookie cutter domes
My prediction is the Royals wind up in Clay County..
They should move the team to Wichita, KS. 🤣😂😂😂😂
If Chiefs and Royals go to Kansas, The Missouri and Kansas rivalry thicken
No it doesn't Missouri had their chance and voted against it, don't blame no one but yourselfs
Renovating soldier field???
Both stadiums are over 50 years old there's only so much renovations you can do if they can't build new stadiums they should move and lose the teams it's very simple
That's what she said 😂
Every time I see the stadium videos, it looks more and more like ownership wants change just for the sake of change. Change should only be for the sake of improvement, not change for change itself
As I said in your previous vide, Chiefs ownership has absolutely no desire in building a new domed stadium on the Kansas state side nor the Missouri State side. The only thing those idiots are interested in is keeping their asses plunked down where they currently are, renovating Arrowhead and leaving it as an open-air stadium. Which to me is pretty pathetic because K.C. will never have a chance to host a Superbowl.
soldier field?
Taxpayers getting sick and tired of building these billionaire's toy boxes
My property tax already went up. Clark Hunt has much more money than me . As much as I love watching the chiefs i cannot afford to go to a game why should I have to pay for rich guys to have a place to play a game
Oh holy hell Kansas, at least get all your ducks in a row if you're planning on poaching ALL the KCMO teams...😂😂😂
Just like the NASCAR track it was supposed to be in Missouri , up by the airport , messed around and messed around Kansas made an offer and the rest is history
Billionaires need to build their own stadium
Please stop with “authoritize”. It’s not a word. Next thing you know, you’ll report on the Royals’ strategery.
Those rendering were nothing official. Just rough draft renderings
49ers paid for their own stadium so can they.
The Chiefs Blimp of Kansas 😂
I don't understand why the tax payers are turned off ,they haven't built a new stadium for baseball or football in over 50 years .I've not seen the proposed Royals stadium but the proposed Chief's stadium looks off the hook 😁 like the wise tale says its cheaper to build from scratch then to refurbish a existing building especially old buildings 😊
Billionaires want to keep their money.
"Renderings" count = 10 ;p
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I wonder if all these rendering are being put out my some AI obsessed 'stadium mook' for fodder for CZcams etc.
If Stan kroenkie can privately finance Sofi every sports owner can too no excuses
The chiefs were putting in 300M of the 800M
These plans are not well thought out and the designs appear to be vanity projects of the owners and architects … just not well thought out and I would vote against it!
Just build a sofi stadium replica in Kansas.
nah, don't need to..Sofi is close to LAX airport which influenced the design and be 100 feet underground
"Soldier Field?". Really Ginger?
Why would people pay for a family to become billionaires while people have a hard time making ends meet?
St Louis Chiefs perhaps? Ok that maybe a long shot, but St Louis has been begging for an NFL team since the rams left. They would most definitely bend over backwards to build whatever stadium the chiefs would want.
24 of the 32 owners have to approve _any_ move. The league/owners _hate_ St. Louis. That $790 million settlement plus legal costs they had to cough up in 2022 left a bad taste in their mouths.
@@oubrioko it is NOT true that the league/owners hate St, Louis, that is YOUR propaganda. YES, St. Louis won a Billion dollar lawsuit due to the shady owner of the Rams and St. Louis fought back and won an OBVIOUS lawsuit. The owners are not stupid, the problem is KROENKE ...NOT St Louis.
I don’t see us giving up tax payer money for the hunt family hell for any team anytime soon
@@DavidZinselmeier If it _is_ propaganda, it's propaganda by owners like Jerry Jones. (I certainly didn't force him to make those quotes). It's not St Louis' fault that they were hoodwinked by Kroenke, but the league owners currently have no interest in locating _another_ franchise in that market
Quit dreaming
This rendering was just something a firm put out on its own and has absolutely no connection with the team or local government and you're reporting on it like it's an official proposal by the Chiefs. One of the guys that designed aligent stadium grew up in suburban Kansas City KS and graduated Shawnee mission east so his firm did a rendering to help pitch the idea. You also say soldier field randomly when it doesn't fit the context. Everything you're saying is just nonsense at that point you're not understanding what's going on.
DOA. Taxpayers are not going to be giving money anymore until we see economic benefits to the community 😊
Owners are a bunch of cheapskates
Total waste of money !
They are doing the same thing that Trump is being accused of. They don’t want to use their own money because they want to stay as billionaires. What wrong with this picture?