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  • @robertjensen1438
    @robertjensen1438 Před 8 měsíci +248

    I was confident I could win the duel until my opponent swung his sword at my ankles.
    Alas, I was de-feeted.

  • @gameragodzilla
    @gameragodzilla Před 8 měsíci +300

    Btw, as a Chinese person myself: Jian (剑) literally translates to sword but the main definition means double edged sword, whereas with dao (刀), which literally translates to knife, the main definition means single edged sword. That’s why the single edged sword in China is often called dadao (大刀), which literally translates to big (大) knife (刀).

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 Před 8 měsíci +12

      What are small double edged knives/daggers called?

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Před 8 měsíci +32

      @@mandowarrior123 Bishou (匕首), though I admit I never actually heard of the term before looking it up, so evidently it wasn't all that common compared to dao or jian.

    • @bigolbearthejammydodger6527
      @bigolbearthejammydodger6527 Před 8 měsíci +24

      oh thats wonderful.. so a dao is literally a messer (german for knife), wonder if weird tax laws was the reason in china too.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Před 8 měsíci +20

      @@bigolbearthejammydodger6527 Not in China because dao is literally defined as being single edge where length isn't really a legal factor, whereas the messer, I believe, is more defined by the handle construction. I'd say the more comparable legal situation to the messer and knife guilds would be how "short barrel rifles" are defined in the NFA as having stocks in modern USA, so if you have a sub-16" barrel AR-15 with just the buffer tube, it's legally a pistol (not regulated by the NFA) rather than a short-barrel rifle (regulated by the NFA). That's also why the whole pistol brace thing is in legal limbo right now.
      There's also this monstrosity to get around the AWB from 1994 to 2004: czcams.com/video/CcNS4JdprWc/video.htmlsi=4psFhgN-6J7Wkm_1

    • @bigolbearthejammydodger6527
      @bigolbearthejammydodger6527 Před 8 měsíci +7

      @@gameragodzilla thanks for reply. interesting none the less.

  • @RainMakeR_Workshop
    @RainMakeR_Workshop Před 8 měsíci +597

    I still want you to put a Katana wrap on the Kriegsmesser with the uncomfortable grip.

    • @blacknblueblanket1627
      @blacknblueblanket1627 Před 8 měsíci +12

      That is katana

    • @jordanezell5132
      @jordanezell5132 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Agreed

    • @makisonoda7925
      @makisonoda7925 Před 8 měsíci +8

      A Katana is not double edged. It never will be, never can be . Putting a Katana grip and Tsuba on a double edged long sword tang does not make it a Katana nor anything equivalent to it. What Tyranth made was an abomination as he said it was , it isn’t built to last. In fact the pin to hold the long sword tang in the Katana grip was achieved only by a metal pin and glue to keep the handle on the tang. Yes the “original “ sword looks interesting, it’s fiction. Functional or not, it’s fiction. And I honestly don’t like the way a double edged blade looks with a Tsuba ( Japanese Sword guard) , and a Japanese Sword hilt looks. But that’s my personal opinion. It doesn’t matter what my opinion is. If it works, it works.

    • @DanielMWJ
      @DanielMWJ Před 8 měsíci +44

      ​​@@makisonoda7925But it's literally not fiction? It's a real thing he made. It's certainly *ahistorical*.
      And Kriegsmessers aren't double-edged if you're talking about that.

    • @Likexner
      @Likexner Před 8 měsíci +25

      @@makisonoda7925 What are you talking about? Are you sure you posted this comment in the right thread?

  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 Před 8 měsíci +455

    Shad:"its against the laws of nature when it comes to swords"
    "Its a perversion against the natural order!"
    Also shad:currently wielding a longsword with a katana handle

    • @DanielMWJ
      @DanielMWJ Před 8 měsíci +14

      Checks out.

    • @Fallenangel_85
      @Fallenangel_85 Před 8 měsíci +12

      The funny thing is, it's already been done historically and used a lot.
      The Korean Sain-Geom has pretty much a Tsuba like guard and a double edge.

    • @JustArt-ro3lp
      @JustArt-ro3lp Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@Fallenangel_85 ooh a Korean sword? Not gonna lie I’ve never heard of such weapon thank you for enlightening me.

    • @MikePhantom
      @MikePhantom Před 7 měsíci

      and promoting AI crap

    • @H20No
      @H20No Před 6 měsíci

      @@Fallenangel_85looked at some pictures and the guard looks not much like a suba. Nor does the handle have a similar length to the sword in the video, it’s just an eastern double edged sword.

  • @RanOutOfChannelNames
    @RanOutOfChannelNames Před 8 měsíci +72

    Oh look, Shad made a Wrongsword.

    • @ilovejettrooper5922
      @ilovejettrooper5922 Před 6 měsíci +3

      That has no right to sound as perfect as it does.

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky Před 6 měsíci +7

      @@ilovejettrooper5922 Even better when you realize that it sounds like a Japanese person trying to pronounce "longsword" 😂

  • @VegetaLF7
    @VegetaLF7 Před 8 měsíci +253

    I think one of my favorite parts about how things have evolved since Nate and Tyranth joined the team is just how much the three of you guys bicker with each other. It genuinely feels like a group of friends goofing off and I love it.

    • @jeroenceulemans3715
      @jeroenceulemans3715 Před 8 měsíci +14

      Yeah! Their chemistry is fantastic and it makes the vids so fun!

    • @TheSteam02
      @TheSteam02 Před 8 měsíci +9

      Often times, channels that introduce new members tend to fall off quickly. Not with this channel. I genuinely believe that the content has massively improved due to the inclusion of Nate and Tyranth.

    • @benjamincoulter5237
      @benjamincoulter5237 Před 6 měsíci +3

      Their friend group chemistry reminds me of the top gear chemistry

    • @LelouchVee
      @LelouchVee Před 6 měsíci +3

      Yeah, the channel has this 'Top Gear with swords' vibe, in a good way

  • @richard_n
    @richard_n Před 8 měsíci +181

    I just have to say that I've really enjoyed this series on swapping out parts of swords. It's been highly educational.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Před 8 měsíci +3

      I can imagine if guns weren't invented, there'd be Bubba Swordsmiths doing this kind of stuff like Bubba Gunsmiths already do now with guns (alongside Bubba's Pakistani cousin Ali Bubba if you look at some of the weird shit from Khyber Pass. Lotta AR/AK hybrids there).

    • @makisonoda7925
      @makisonoda7925 Před 8 měsíci +1

      Yeah , it educational. But there’s a reason why European and Asian sword parts were not intermixed with each other. They aren’t designed to work in tandem. Although it looks interesting. Maybe it could work, maybe it does. I just prefer to keep my swords Authentic and original to the ethnic background it was made in.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Před 8 měsíci +5

      @@makisonoda7925 Well yeah, obviously there will be cultural differences as to why certain designs and styles came up. One thing I find fascinating is the Americans developed quick draw techniques for handguns for the same reason the Japanese developed iaijutsu. Despite the two being very different cultures, they both came up with very similar concepts for very similar reasons, to the point where there's a lot of cross-pollination between Westerns and Jidaigeki movies. That's why I always wonder if the Europeans had their own quickdraw techniques. I'd figure if two very different cultures came up with the same thing for the same reasons, then the Europeans also should've done it for their swords.
      As it stands, the main reason why the katana is still my favorite sword despite me thinking the longsword is better once the swords are already drawn (kenjutsu in Japanese swordsmanship) is the katana is much more developed for draw techniques, and as an American (who lives in Texas, no less), I very much place a high degree of importance on quick draw, both for practical reasons and because it's really cool.
      Still, there probably could be ways to combine the two, much like how there are some professionally done hybrids of the AK/AR. The Sig 556 is a gun that's very much based mechnically on the AK, but incorporates a lot of AR ergonomics.

    • @cmaslan
      @cmaslan Před 8 měsíci +1

      Synthetic swordology

  • @aliesterus1.023
    @aliesterus1.023 Před 8 měsíci +70

    This video entertains me so much because Nate is usually the most positive of you three, but here Nate is spouting the most vitriol and Shad and Tyrinth are just a couple of kids having fun.

  • @tposingukiki
    @tposingukiki Před 8 měsíci +136

    Question: what sword would be the closest one to being called “The Throngler”?

    • @m0-m0597
      @m0-m0597 Před 8 měsíci +18

      idk but I know about the Shlongler

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn Před 8 měsíci +3

      Whipsword.

    • @tposingukiki
      @tposingukiki Před 8 měsíci +16

      @@5peciesunkn0wn I was thinking more of an… overly dramatic Flamberge

    • @eliaspanayi3465
      @eliaspanayi3465 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@tposingukiki it's also really flexible so when you shake it it makes the laminated 'fwubwuwubwbwbwb" noise as it bends

    • @user-zo9ce9jp1q
      @user-zo9ce9jp1q Před 8 měsíci

      Probably some sort of spiked khopesh

  • @Totsy30
    @Totsy30 Před 8 měsíci +64

    Shad's face at 25:04 suggests to me we might see a perfected abomination in the future. Katana hilt, longsword crossguard, and that same blade. I doubt Tyranth would be thrilled about it though lol
    Truly the merging of best attributes.

    • @josephjoestar953
      @josephjoestar953 Před 8 měsíci +9

      Maybe even a pommel ( if they even can put a pommel on a katana hilt )

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw Před 8 měsíci +3

      @@josephjoestar953 the longer handle acts as the pommel, as the extra length of handle adds the weight a pommel does.

    • @WJS774
      @WJS774 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@jamoecw The extra length of the handle in no way adds the same weight as a pommel. It's only made of wood, it is _far_ lighter than a pommel.

    • @jamoecw
      @jamoecw Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@WJS774 depends on the handle, the tang, and the weight of the sword. the sword in the video weighed as much as a sword of comparable length with a pommel. maybe the original sword was much heavier despite being thinner, or maybe the weight of the pommel it had weighed less than you think.

    • @WJS774
      @WJS774 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@jamoecw Are you for real? You think that the overall weight is what the pommel is about? The total weight of the sword means _nothing._ The pommel is to control the point of balance. And it makes a big difference whether you want to admit it or not.

  • @racoondraws6045
    @racoondraws6045 Před 8 měsíci +21

    I still believe that, this sword in particular it's not an abomination, it actually resembles a little bit to a Japanese ancient sword called tsurugi, this swords were actually double edged and iirc, were inspired by Chinese jian, so if you ask me...I'd say with a little tweaking on the hilt (like making it more centered) would make a good or at least decent sword design!

  • @illuminous7937
    @illuminous7937 Před 8 měsíci +106

    Heyya Shad, would love to see a video where you debunk whether fighting with your Sheath/Scabbard as a secondary weapon is worthwhile in combat (To block incoming blows ect in your off hand)
    Excellent content as always

    • @dantegallardo1974
      @dantegallardo1974 Před 8 měsíci +8

      That's so cool I want to see that

    • @zsDUGGZ
      @zsDUGGZ Před 8 měsíci +6

      That'd be fun to watch. hope Shad and the crew see this.

    • @jerryandersson4873
      @jerryandersson4873 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Yeah, do not need to use a real sheet.
      I am sure they can make something of wood.
      Dunno how acessable/cheap wood is in Australia tho.
      I do hope they go to building material stores and not hobby stores.
      Are there junkyard around for scrap metal stuff?
      Over here we have recycling centers here and there, wich can have some amazing stuff, and if you get friendly with the owner/workers and perhaps throw in some compensation, I would imagine load of useful fun stuff could turn up over time, both wood and metal.
      I miss being able to work with metals and Mills and stuff.

    • @MylesKillis
      @MylesKillis Před 6 měsíci

      Um so a dual wielding good?

    • @mrkiky
      @mrkiky Před 6 měsíci

      Unless it's a metal scabbard, I don't see it. Scabbards were usually wood, lined with fur and covered in leather and obviously hollow on the inside. The wood is very thin such that you might break it if you sit on it accidentally, so I don't see it doing a good job.

  • @popularopinion1
    @popularopinion1 Před 8 měsíci +17

    Watching the balance of revulsion and admiration in the boys is heartwarming.
    Also, they should commission a purpose made version of the longtana, so it doesn't have the brass pin/epoxy issue

  • @ScarleSimpMikaelOre
    @ScarleSimpMikaelOre Před 8 měsíci +23

    Yup, very supportive of this project, hope you guys make it and have fun!

  • @mansfieldtime
    @mansfieldtime Před 8 měsíci +151

    The next abomination, orientate the cross guard to be perpendicular to the blade at 90*. It sounds like a horror project.

    • @alexmashkin863
      @alexmashkin863 Před 8 měsíci +19

      You'll have to invent a completely new construction of the cross guard for that, or just cut quillons off and weld them back the other way

    • @allopez8563
      @allopez8563 Před 8 měsíci

      @@alexmashkin863 This is not that uncommon, check sword collector forums for "Frankeswords" you might get many ideas.
      Back 8 to 10 years euro hilts were much easier to come by now it is harder.
      I guess dark wood armory and the Australian medieval fight club are still around, but independent forges are more expensive and cast steel crossguards for the Hanwei Tinker line are not made anymore.

    • @FlexxibleFree
      @FlexxibleFree Před 8 měsíci +1

      Oh yeah!

    • @Notmyname1593
      @Notmyname1593 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Could be a helluva stabber.

    • @commode7x
      @commode7x Před 8 měsíci +1

      So, like what DemolitionRanch did?

  • @asahearts1
    @asahearts1 Před 8 měsíci +47

    One hand on a 2 hander gives that extra reach when you need it. Plus it frees up the other hand for grapple, pocket sand, whatever 😂
    Incidentally, the jian is typically used with mostly one hand 😂

    • @rohdri
      @rohdri Před 7 měsíci +1

      The typical jian also has both a shorter hilt and blade, and is also lighter by a bit. .7-.9 kilos instead of 1.2 kilos. Also, they typically had a pommel, and a different hand guard. Apples to banana/orange hybrid.

  • @Joyful_Rob
    @Joyful_Rob Před 8 měsíci +13

    The dynamic of the three of you discussing your opinions is the best part of this channel. 😁

  • @jackson01357
    @jackson01357 Před 8 měsíci +11

    I love watching Nate be so peeved that he likes it. That's a rare thing, from what I have seen - to see him be so bothered that he likes something weird that he made, or at least helped make. I haven't watched that video yet.
    It brings me joy 😂

  • @aced4fun
    @aced4fun Před 8 měsíci +13

    The Shadoversity intro is still awesome and one of the few intros persisting on modern CZcams
    I wouldn’t change a thing :D

  • @dustingreene8602
    @dustingreene8602 Před 8 měsíci +7

    I'd suggest centering the blade and adding a bigger tsuba. It would deal with the foward balancing and add more hand protection.

  • @drunkardhu6517
    @drunkardhu6517 Před 8 měsíci +11

    3:08 Sir Shad, you got it right on the first try. Jian is what we call double edged blade in Chinese. And this particular design with 8 surfaces (or whatever the proper term) is an design from the Bronze Age. Hence the Jian is smaller because blade made of bronze cannot go too long or to large.

  • @IamHattman
    @IamHattman Před 8 měsíci +15

    If you're going to try and make a more specific fusion of the Katana and Longsword, I'd suggest checking out the Ask Seki Sensi video where he actually tries some things with a trainer longsword. Just for the feedback from the Katana side of things.
    Off the top of my head, I would suggest trying to machine a mix between the cross guard and a tsuba, likely with a single quillion along the 'true' edge, a rounded central section in the style of a tsuba, but with a notch to accomidate moving to thumb-grip. I think that manages to adjust the guard for the benefits both camps have prefered while also addressing some of potential problems.

  • @FortuneFavoursTheBold
    @FortuneFavoursTheBold Před 8 měsíci +10

    Shad is getting better at this, which is a testament of how much one can improve by actually using swords and reflecting on the usage afterwards.
    I have cut with katana with back-edge techniques like zwerchau and schielhau by temporarily reversing the blade and holding down on the grip while placing the thumb on the grip instead of thumbing the flat of the blade. It works. Slightly awkward but Shad is correct here that on a well balanced nimble sword like many longswords, temporarily having 1 inch point of balance further away may help the cut gain more momentum thus letting the mass of the sword doing more work for you. When you are done with the cut, you immediately hold back onto the the part just below the guard to gain more control. It works with a tip heavy sword like katana, it definitely works with a nimbler blade like the longsword blade (more profile taper and more distal taper).

  • @manoz6194
    @manoz6194 Před 8 měsíci +51

    I love Nate's character development in this lol

  • @tmvega8167
    @tmvega8167 Před 8 měsíci +39

    Kinda looks like a chinese sword

    • @lexmarovsky6667
      @lexmarovsky6667 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Why did these Asians dislike crossguards so much...

    • @lopezroilans.8384
      @lopezroilans.8384 Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@lexmarovsky6667probably material issues, and/or design issues at the time

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Před 8 měsíci +4

      @@lexmarovsky6667Not sure about Chinese swords, but I think the reason why Japanese swords had the small tsuba was so it’d get caught less on stuff during a speed draw (iaijutsu). I know when Seki Sensei tried out the longsword, it got caught on stuff a few times despite him praising the extra hand protection. As far as I know, there’s no equivalent to iaijutsu for European swords.
      Much the same way a lot of handguns modified for quick draw will have all their edges smoothed out for the sake of a faster and smoother draw. Sometimes they’d go so far as to remove the front sight entirely, making it far less accurate at long range but a much smoother draw since nothing would snag.

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle Před 8 měsíci +1

      ​@@gameragodzillaI feel like it probably wasn't a purposeful omission like you imply.
      I more imagine that once the "I don't wanna cut my own hand while stabbing" bit was figured out, they were satisfied and didn't think twice about it.
      Much the same way as the west never thinking "I should optimize a sword for quick drawing"
      Don't feel the need to change, and you probably won't.

    • @gameragodzilla
      @gameragodzilla Před 8 měsíci

      @@1stCallipostle Well there are still reasons why they went with some particular design, and even the Japanese did modify the nodachi and tachi into the eventual katanas in later periods when there were more sword carrying on foot and swordsmanship became more self defense oriented than battle.

  • @BellhenderOfficial
    @BellhenderOfficial Před 8 měsíci +5

    Man I love this new content here. Every video done this year has been PLATINUM! Keep doing guys. You are the best

  • @sim.frischh9781
    @sim.frischh9781 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Right now i have that image in my head of Shad, Tyranth and the rest of the crew going to a toy store and pretty much cleaning out their stack of pool noodles for sword testing.
    But the sword has something weirdly fascinating about it. I would like to see it with other kinds of tsuba designs, like more rectengular ones. Those exist, after all.
    This mixing of sword hilts and blades seems to be worthwhile from both a looks and an efficient use aspect.

  • @reeceemms1643
    @reeceemms1643 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Day something of asking for a video on the misconceptions of Medieval weddings. Such as the engagement (even though I know it was done by the parents), What they did to celebrate, and any interest information.
    I then what to know how these can be incorporated into fantasy stories and TTRPGs. Especially since I recently read my fantasy book where I do touch on marriage a bit.
    These being a Royal wedding set up, the mention of a marriage, and an actual interrupted wedding scene.
    Another thing I want to know is what actually happened to a princess of a kingdom if thar kingdom was taken. Because in my story the main character is forced into marrying the main bad guy. I don’t actually know how accurate that actually is to history though

  • @Kraleck
    @Kraleck Před 8 měsíci +13

    It seems to me that the wielder's affinity for strength, speed, defense, or balance pairs better with the handle than the blade. The tsuka of a katana is advantageous in deft hands to allow more fluidity of motion than a hilt with a crossguard, allowing them to strike rapidly (much like Tyranth shows). A strong wielder would prefer the opposite, using a blade's crossguard with a strong grip to brace against an attack then following up with leverage to affect an opponent's balance. Very good show of skills, gentlemen!

    • @Uncephalized
      @Uncephalized Před 8 měsíci +1

      Nah, the type of guard has little if anything to do with how fast or fluidly you can move the sword. That has more to do with weight, balance, strength and skill of the user.

  • @Smooth_Lime_Nine
    @Smooth_Lime_Nine Před 8 měsíci +5

    I love to think that at some point in the future Nate will have an 80’s style flash back and a faded shad will echo softly in his ears “feel the blade”
    😂

  • @andreas_rr
    @andreas_rr Před 8 měsíci +39

    i think Lon(g)ken would be pretty fitting as a name. Long is obvious, "ken" basically means "sword" in japanese and is the go to designation when talking about double edged swords in Japan. Also the pronounciation is pretty smooth/neat imo. Idk if i'd write it with or without "g", but if it's with, i'd still keep it silent.

    • @Hei_Darkfire
      @Hei_Darkfire Před 8 měsíci +2

      I like the Ken part for sword. But we need a new beginning. Something to mean long, but hopefully something that pairs good with the Ken part of the name.

    • @mrcheese5383
      @mrcheese5383 Před 8 měsíci +3

      Klong

    • @sakesaurus
      @sakesaurus Před 8 měsíci +1

      If you write it with a g the aussies read it as lonjen. Which sucks, i like to avoid such stuf.
      Although the chinese read this (corresponding) hanzi through j, but that might be reading too much into things..

    • @andreas_rr
      @andreas_rr Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@GerdLPluu not bad actually 😂😂😂

    • @mandowarrior123
      @mandowarrior123 Před 8 měsíci +3

      'Ken' literally means double edged sword in japanese, whereas '-tō' or katana means single edged (tō, katana, '-nata' or 'waki-' are all readings of 刀 character) possibly knife like in chinese.
      So ken is sword but katana are 'knives' in a sense.
      I like rongu sword myself.

  • @kenwalker5384
    @kenwalker5384 Před 8 měsíci +5

    I think the real takeaway from these experiments is that there's a reason for there being so many styles, and sizes of swords is to cater to personal preference!

  • @Maninawig
    @Maninawig Před 8 měsíci +3

    Hey Shad and crew, now that Tyranth is making swords, could you guys make/discuss Antonio Banderas' sword in 13th Warrior? Grinding down longsword into a scimitar sounds like a horrible idea, but I would love to hear all the issues one might have with this

  • @allopez8563
    @allopez8563 Před 8 měsíci +4

    The Hanwei Tinker swords came out around the early 2010s sometimes they snapped at the "shoulders" a possibility they were actually afraid.
    Although newer blades tend to break less.

  • @JoyBoyAlter
    @JoyBoyAlter Před 8 měsíci +1

    Every time I think I'm prepared for Shad's sudden increases in volume, but every time I get my ears blown out lmao. My day is never complete without it

  • @mrt5069
    @mrt5069 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I feel like i can listen to Shads arguing about swords for hours.

  • @ankokuraven
    @ankokuraven Před 8 měsíci +30

    You have inspired me to try to make my own abomination.
    Funny enough, i want to use the same blade.

    • @rachdarastrix5251
      @rachdarastrix5251 Před 8 měsíci +2

      I've been "inspired" to years ago. Its just that when it comes to any form of trade my competitors have somehow managed to get it so that I have no chance of getting a foothold and beginning a profession 20 years before I was even born. So I have to but their products, rough it up a little then finish it with a file, and that way I can lie and say I forged it myself.

    • @allopez8563
      @allopez8563 Před 8 měsíci

      This is not that uncommon, check sword collector forums for "Frankeswords" you might get many ideas.
      Back 8 to 10 years euro hilts were much easier to come by now it is harder.
      I guess dark wood armory and the Australian medieval fight club are still around, but independent forges are more expensive and cast steel crossguards for the Hanwei Tinker line are not made anymore.

  • @ethanwalsh5441
    @ethanwalsh5441 Před 8 měsíci +5

    Loved this video and I’m honestly with shad on this. I do wonder if this particular unique sword’s asymmetrical blade may offer different reverse edge cut feelings depending on which side you use in the reverse. I also fully agree with building a sword with a katana styled handle built into a longsword blade profile like this.

  • @sunilpermaul7876
    @sunilpermaul7876 Před 8 měsíci +2

    I think this raises an overall question of, "What happens if you could add the optimal handle (for the user) to a blade?"

  • @mga149
    @mga149 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Finding this sword very fascinating. I'd come up the same concept (a light, fast longsword blade with tachi tsuba) as the weapon for a DnD Monk Kensai character a few months ago. I thought it was just a completely rule of cool fantasy idea, but it seems to performs way better than I thought it would.
    I love how much Nate HATES how much he likes it.

  • @lukerogers9348
    @lukerogers9348 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I love how defending Nate is when arguing his dislikes for the sword, like he secretly likes it lol

  • @morrigankasa570
    @morrigankasa570 Před 8 měsíci +4

    Imagine a Khopesh Blade with a Crossguard Hilt?
    Imagine a Dane Axe with a Katana Hilt?
    Imagine a Halberd Head on a Hand and a Half Hilt?
    Finally, imagine a "Crow's Beak" with a One-Handed Haft?
    (Edit more ideas): A Basket Hilt on a Mace, A Spatha Hilt on a Claymore, A Mace Haft on a Spatha Blade, A Double-Edged Scimitar on a Rapier Hilt, A Scimitar Hilt on a Rapier Blade.

    • @GranWarlorckEnmaryu
      @GranWarlorckEnmaryu Před 8 měsíci +1

      @Morrigankasa570 or a Gladiushilt/guard with a khopesh blade

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle Před 8 měsíci +1

      I feel like that last one exists to some degree.
      A comically long Katana handle with a Dane axe head though... That would be a sight

    • @morrigankasa570
      @morrigankasa570 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@GranWarlorckEnmaryu That would be neat.

    • @morrigankasa570
      @morrigankasa570 Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@1stCallipostle Yep, and what makes it even more interesting is it expands things beyond just swords made into "Abominations".
      Another idea I thought of after my first comment. Was a Spear Haft with a Kopis on the end. (Kopis is the Greek Version of a Khopesh).

  • @jjthejetplane8965
    @jjthejetplane8965 Před 8 měsíci +1

    I gotta say, the group dynamic is great with you guys. You all seem like fantastic people.

  • @TheMegazonyx
    @TheMegazonyx Před 8 měsíci +2

    Stretched out gladius is what i think of when i see the sword...

  • @williamr.s.5693
    @williamr.s.5693 Před 8 měsíci +16

    I’ve noticed you often forget to change the tags from the previous video, maybe double check it next time ;)
    #anime #boomerang
    Anyways really cool testing on the longtana! Or you could call it the abomitana… or abomisword… or abomina…

  • @Fallenangel_85
    @Fallenangel_85 Před 8 měsíci +3

    It's actually not that unusual to have such a sword design, it's been done historically.
    The korean Sain-Geom is smaller, but it combines the double edge with a tsuba like guard.

  • @VoidDragon82
    @VoidDragon82 Před 7 měsíci

    “It’s called a skill issue” ooooooo the burn clinic was busy that night!! 😂😂

  • @OmegaB3N
    @OmegaB3N Před 8 měsíci +1

    Add the cross guard,
    MAKE THE KONGSWORD!!!!

  • @itschoiboi
    @itschoiboi Před 8 měsíci +3

    For posterity, We need a build video with all the things you hate in a sword. Whether it be the balance is off, the handle being uncomfortable, or the shape of the blade itself, etc...

    • @5peciesunkn0wn
      @5peciesunkn0wn Před 8 měsíci +1

      Ah yes. The "Shadiversity Hateful Blade"

    • @itschoiboi
      @itschoiboi Před 8 měsíci

      Excellent name 😂@@5peciesunkn0wn

  • @MattWinkler1
    @MattWinkler1 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Would love to see you guys wearing medieval helmets / gauntlets as protection against sword damage in the tests. It's what they're made for!

  • @vinvirusx
    @vinvirusx Před 8 měsíci +1

    "Sagishi" would be the perfect name for that sword. Japanese for "imposter," imagine someone having it on the battlefield like, "oh a katana... wait a minute..."

  • @seanm.7584
    @seanm.7584 Před 8 měsíci

    “Strong. Strength.” 😂😂😂 cracked me up man. 😂😂😂

  • @dragortius9335
    @dragortius9335 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Really good video and it does make me wonder if the long tana and/or katanar (if that's the name) couldn't be upgraded FURTHER, hear me out
    Double bladed long sword blade: ookatana handle + POMMEL, and a Tsuba/cross guard HYBRID (Don't know if something like that already exists).
    Katana wraps + pins and try to incorporate the endurance of the longsword handle into the handle.
    Edit: ok, sorry, you guys talked about it at the end, more or less, so, YEAH, if you do this, oh boy, happy fan be happy and more fan.

  • @NickCombs
    @NickCombs Před 8 měsíci +12

    The longtana looks to be overall better when compared to the longsword. It's got a faster tip and better reach with the longer handle. Even longer when wielded one-handed (looking at you, Shad).
    The addition of a crossguard (but not a pommel, sorry Skal) would be nice, but given the other benefits of speed and reach I don't think your hand is at as much risk overall. So that detriment seems like more of a wash.

  • @TheCaniblcat
    @TheCaniblcat Před 8 měsíci

    ~7:53 Dammit Shad, this was the perfect opportunity to say "You must unlearn what you have learned" 🐸

  • @davidhim3527
    @davidhim3527 Před 8 měsíci

    I just love Nate's reaction every time was a disappointed "God damnit, it did great..."

  • @sealpiercing8476
    @sealpiercing8476 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Your sword measurements should include the point of balance and the largest moment of inertia about that point. Those would be easy measurements and they'd largely capture what you mean about handling characteristics.

  • @radimnechut519
    @radimnechut519 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Don't know. I really like the look and, from what you guys have said, the feel of both. The falchion kimitana looks like a more _reliable_ sword, in that it has the better cross-guard and a good balance. The langana looks fun and a bit like a _glass cannon_ without the better guard, but being superior in seemingly any other way.

  • @Hanlix14313
    @Hanlix14313 Před 8 měsíci

    Love the content and would love to see more

  • @skiveman
    @skiveman Před 8 měsíci +1

    I have a name for the sword - Shad's Shame. A cursed name for a cursed sword.

  • @SukacitaYeremia
    @SukacitaYeremia Před 8 měsíci +2

    Seems to me like this has been the toughest sword testing video to digest. I wonder if there can be any way to advance the discussion further and help me understand it better...

  • @billysmith5409
    @billysmith5409 Před 8 měsíci +3

    The “Longtana” looks like something I would build on Calimascil. I want to hate but I can’t.

  • @Whiterin
    @Whiterin Před 8 měsíci

    It was hilarious watching Nate just be absolutely at a loss and disappointed every time it did so well. lol

  • @NamedMyTaco
    @NamedMyTaco Před 8 měsíci +1

    Longtana is the BEST name! Nate is a Longtana prodigy! 😂😂😂

  • @EksaStelmere
    @EksaStelmere Před 8 měsíci +3

    Once more, I'm gonna suggest Longutō (ロング刀) and Longuken (ロング剣) for the name. As with before, I'd personally go with the latter, but since it's TECHNICALLY using a Katana handle, the former might work even if it's double-edged.

    • @lildragon6415
      @lildragon6415 Před 8 měsíci

      Ken makes more sense because it is double edged.

    • @EksaStelmere
      @EksaStelmere Před 8 měsíci

      @@lildragon6415 Pretty much, yeah, but it's something of a meme, so doesn't matter too much.

  • @FireCrack83
    @FireCrack83 Před 8 měsíci +3

    I Just wanted to Go to sleep. Now i have to watch a Video about one of shads weird sword dreams😅

  • @Sp33LzZz
    @Sp33LzZz Před 8 měsíci +2

    Thank you Tyranth, I will now play a D&D game as a barbarian who purposefully wields two handed swords in one hand and refuses to do otherwise. Brilliant idea!

  • @yofu3048
    @yofu3048 Před 8 měsíci

    “You cut well today Nate”
    Nate: “but it’s still today!”

  • @gallendugall8913
    @gallendugall8913 Před 8 měsíci +3

    Might I offer a term to describe bladed weapons that are not historical, "stabulator"

    • @kingmasterlord
      @kingmasterlord Před 8 měsíci

      how does one stabulate?

    • @Sam-lf3hn
      @Sam-lf3hn Před 8 měsíci

      What about a "hackulator" or a "sliceulator"

    • @manoz6194
      @manoz6194 Před 8 měsíci

      How about McStabby?

  • @Megabidoof83
    @Megabidoof83 Před 8 měsíci +3

    If you're already making abominations, why not make a tsuba, that is a bit bigger then normal tsuba's, with openings so you can finger or thumb the blade but still retain the classic look of the katana hilt? (on a long sword or katana)

  • @joycallender6086
    @joycallender6086 Před 8 měsíci

    Thank you, gentlemen!

  • @RaewCZ
    @RaewCZ Před 8 měsíci +1

    Longtana is basically the type of sword I like esthetically the most, that's why I always look for it in any videogame XD

  • @theoldefirme4500
    @theoldefirme4500 Před 8 měsíci +1

    22:41 They didn't know that katana blades are designed to be stiff i.e. less felt vibration and longsword blades are designed to be flexible i.e. more felt vibration...

  • @Adalon-
    @Adalon- Před 7 měsíci

    i love how the abomination turns out to actually be a rather fantastic design. Imagine one with actual good, custom construction instead of a mishmash. Weapon could be an absolute beast.

  • @nathancox7412
    @nathancox7412 Před 8 měsíci +2

    Second time now. This reminds me and looks the way a lightsaber is being portrayed being used. Sort that handle out a little better and its a weapon that acts a lot like the way light sabers are portrayed. This is a Proto Saber.

    • @nathancox7412
      @nathancox7412 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I'd love to see you guys get someone on your channel that trains with those SW combat sabers and get one of them to give it ago. the scifi nerd in me need to see this revisited.

  • @ConnorSinclairCavin
    @ConnorSinclairCavin Před 8 měsíci

    “Clean but cu-ursed!” Sounds like the perfect line to have some npc that seems paranoid but is actually right in a d&d game to shout haha wish the recording of it wasnt over other lines lol

  • @TheoryMaK15-255
    @TheoryMaK15-255 Před 8 měsíci

    Godspeed SHAD!!! ⚔🗡🤺🛡🔰🦾

  • @Kacpa2
    @Kacpa2 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Abominable! They put a tsuba on a longsword! Can you believe it?

  • @williampickett5875
    @williampickett5875 Před 8 měsíci

    Thanks!

  • @riftalope
    @riftalope Před 8 měsíci

    Damnit! I had JUST sat down and started the video, and Nate up 'n reads my mind!
    Took me a bit to stop the Twilight Zone music and giggling.
    Had to rewind.

  • @tinkaresin8106
    @tinkaresin8106 Před 8 měsíci

    As much as they say anything defensive about it, I hate it. The mere sight of it makes me want to look away.

  • @Maxificent
    @Maxificent Před 8 měsíci

    I cut well today!
    - ..... "today".
    It's still TODAY!
    😂

  • @loma-ep7ne
    @loma-ep7ne Před 8 měsíci

    The advantages of the longer ha'dle reminds me of a very cool weapon that in french we call "la coutille". It's basicly a one handed sword on a stick to make it the coolest spear you can find. I love it and I'd love to see you test one

  • @eliwarner3434
    @eliwarner3434 Před 5 měsíci

    I love the chemistry here it’s so funny😂

  • @JanterCyrano
    @JanterCyrano Před 8 měsíci +1

    13:34 the instant regret of success....

  • @guardsman-against-the-chaos
    @guardsman-against-the-chaos Před 8 měsíci +2

    Funny how European swords neighbour middle eastern swords are like Katana long swords while Japans neighbour China has Katana like swords. Little bit of history rhyming there.

    • @1stCallipostle
      @1stCallipostle Před 8 měsíci

      Ignoring the wording issues here
      The reason Japan and China have similair swords is because they basically stole the design from each other.
      China had curved swords, Japan took the concept and ran with it.
      Then some Japanese pirates lose their blades to some Chinese who basically 1 for 1 copied a Tachi into the Wo Dao, which is quite literally named Japanese Sword in context

  • @lordwarryl5712
    @lordwarryl5712 Před 8 měsíci

    I don't even want to watch this video... But for you guys, I will support you in everything you guys do.... Even its unforgivable...

  • @jierdareisa4313
    @jierdareisa4313 Před 4 měsíci

    I love ALL Shadiversity videos!!!! ❤

  • @Ghostly_FilmProduction
    @Ghostly_FilmProduction Před 8 měsíci +1

    Next is the Axe handle with sword blade, and vice-versa

  • @scottybreuer
    @scottybreuer Před 8 měsíci

    Now take inspiration from the rapier. Combine the tsuba and the crossguard onto a glorious, all-in-one, hand protector.

  • @mobgabriel1767
    @mobgabriel1767 Před 8 měsíci +2

    It doesn't matter what name you guys are giving to it, there is a comment in the video where you made this sword naming it "eurasian bastard" and that is the name i'm calling it

  • @magnusliten8807
    @magnusliten8807 Před 8 měsíci +1

    FEEL THE BLADE

  • @FaceEatingOwl
    @FaceEatingOwl Před 8 měsíci +1

    This is like Top Gear, but for swords 👌⚔️✨🤘❤️

  • @thekeeperofthe9th174
    @thekeeperofthe9th174 Před 8 měsíci +1

    A new anime has a Shabard in it. Its called Ranga Crimson

  • @mariovwcardoso5970
    @mariovwcardoso5970 Před měsícem +1

    I'd think it could have a different, maybe even unique, type of cross-guard to maximize it's unique features (for example, the leverage for back cuts.

  • @ehta2413
    @ehta2413 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Ship it to Finland, I have a perfect burial place for that abomination on top of ancient fell in middle of nowhere. All that needs to be done is to drill a hole in a sacred square rock, put the sword in and fill the edges of the hole with pebble cement to prevent people from pulling it off the rock. Other option would a small remote waterfall in Northern Norway that has been used as a sacrificial site by local indigenous people in middle ages, the rock altar in there is still bit rusted from all the blood :D

  • @TBKOTOROB
    @TBKOTOROB Před 8 měsíci

    My eyes are burning, it's a abomination i'll buy 2 of them 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @danjacobs6219
    @danjacobs6219 Před 8 měsíci

    Omg these guys were entertaining.

  • @decay79
    @decay79 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Am loving the look of the Longtana.. That it performs as well as it does is somewhat of a surprise, but a pleasant one..

  • @lampyrisnoctiluca9904
    @lampyrisnoctiluca9904 Před 7 měsíci

    😊 I love watching my fellow geeks and nerds enjoying themselves. It does not matter what kind you are. Only thing that matters is people being happy over something weird, unusual or nerdy.